{"version":"https://jsonfeed.org/version/1","title":"Oral Argument","home_page_url":"https://oralargument.org","feed_url":"https://oralargument.org/json","description":"A podcast about law, law school, legal theory, and other nerdy things that interest us.","_fireside":{"pubdate":"2021-02-25T17:00:00.000-05:00","explicit":false,"owner":"Joe Miller and Christian Turner","image":"https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/3/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/cover.jpg?v=1"},"items":[{"id":"ba7abe38-71d5-474f-9f8c-c71f06422102","title":"Episode 217: Except as to Part I(A) Yada Yada","url":"https://oralargument.org/217","content_text":"We discuss the morality of concurring and dissenting. And the usual nonsense.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe discuss the morality of concurring and dissenting. And the usual nonsense.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On judges writing separately.","date_published":"2021-02-25T17:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/ba7abe38-71d5-474f-9f8c-c71f06422102.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":51914193,"duration_in_seconds":4284}]},{"id":"44e3955f-b9a0-402b-9aa5-d7f6f3383c6c","title":"Episode 216: Mac-a-tizer","url":"https://oralargument.org/216","content_text":"Joe and Christian talk about the pandemic and, then, some nonsense.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe and Christian talk about the pandemic and, then, some nonsense.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the pandemic, brightly colored food products, and more.","date_published":"2021-01-27T17:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/44e3955f-b9a0-402b-9aa5-d7f6f3383c6c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":43663752,"duration_in_seconds":3596}]},{"id":"0d081cca-a268-461a-9c72-ffc842aed930","title":"Episode 215: Whirlpool of Garbage","url":"https://oralargument.org/215","content_text":"We discuss the march on the Capitol and... all this.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe discuss the march on the Capitol and... all this.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the attack on Congress.","date_published":"2021-01-11T18:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/0d081cca-a268-461a-9c72-ffc842aed930.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":65954451,"duration_in_seconds":5454}]},{"id":"4688dd4b-28e9-4516-904d-05e62e1e15f5","title":"Episode 214: Small Claims","url":"https://oralargument.org/214","content_text":"In this holiday spectacular, we talk about small claims. In particular, would a court for small copyright claims be a good or bad thing? You can probably guess what we each say. In exploring this, we consider the nature of dogs, hunters, and children.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIn this holiday spectacular, we talk about small claims. In particular, would a court for small copyright claims be a good or bad thing? You can probably guess what we each say. In exploring this, we consider the nature of dogs, hunters, and children.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On small copyright claims and big social disagreements.","date_published":"2020-12-22T13:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/4688dd4b-28e9-4516-904d-05e62e1e15f5.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":54770590,"duration_in_seconds":4522}]},{"id":"00dc6a7a-f277-4e35-a751-67830bdd548e","title":"Episode 213: Blue Cheese Odyssey","url":"https://oralargument.org/213","content_text":"Joe lowers the boom, and we start talking. In the 213th episode of this very serious podcast, we discuss: scams, flight simulators, flight, K2, Joe's blue cheese odyssey, olives, the nature of expertise, nihilism, and the adversary system. And other things as well.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe lowers the boom, and we start talking. In the 213th episode of this very serious podcast, we discuss: scams, flight simulators, flight, K2, Joe\u0026#39;s blue cheese odyssey, olives, the nature of expertise, nihilism, and the adversary system. And other things as well.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Scams, K2, cheese, fear, olives, flight, expertise, and the adversary system.","date_published":"2020-12-16T17:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/00dc6a7a-f277-4e35-a751-67830bdd548e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":51736935,"duration_in_seconds":4269}]},{"id":"0f0d758d-1f02-4f4d-9625-8cc555f8bc3e","title":"Episode 212: House of Worship","url":"https://oralargument.org/212","content_text":"We discuss the Supreme Court's (I know, I know) decision in Roman Catholic Diocese v. Cuomo.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe discuss the Supreme Court\u0026#39;s (I know, I know) decision in \u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20a87_4g15.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRoman Catholic Diocese v. Cuomo\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On religious discrimination and COVID.","date_published":"2020-12-07T13:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/0f0d758d-1f02-4f4d-9625-8cc555f8bc3e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":60581120,"duration_in_seconds":5006}]},{"id":"ab04b140-041f-40dc-b6ec-a9c1cc61a010","title":"Episode 211: Practice","url":"https://oralargument.org/211","content_text":"Is this thing on? What did we miss?","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIs this thing on? What did we miss?\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"What did we miss?","date_published":"2020-11-24T13:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/ab04b140-041f-40dc-b6ec-a9c1cc61a010.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":61538753,"duration_in_seconds":5086}]},{"id":"854774f1-4796-49a5-bafe-5980ed46161d","title":"Episode 210: Exponential","url":"https://oralargument.org/210","content_text":"Just Joe and Christian on the pandemic, new articles, and spring break.\n\n\nAchieving A Fair and Effective COVID-19 Response: An Open Letter to Vice-President Mike Pence, and Other Federal, State, and Local Leaders from Public Health and Legal Experts in the United States\nThe President in discussion with pharma execs on a vaccine\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJust Joe and Christian on the pandemic, new articles, and spring break.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/area/center/ghjp/documents/final_covid-19_letter_from_public_health_and_legal_experts.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAchieving A Fair and Effective COVID-19 Response: An Open Letter to Vice-President Mike Pence, and Other Federal, State, and Local Leaders from Public Health and Legal Experts in the United States\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1234607697540063234\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe President in discussion with pharma execs on a vaccine\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian on the pandemic, new articles, and spring break.","date_published":"2020-03-03T16:45:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/854774f1-4796-49a5-bafe-5980ed46161d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":19574889,"duration_in_seconds":2446}]},{"id":"a337b063-b1b2-4dcd-b9be-44785679aab9","title":"Episode 209: The Gun Subsidy","url":"https://oralargument.org/209","content_text":"We are joined by our student, Justin Van Orsdol, who has co-authored a paper with Christian about a new approach to the gun violence crisis.\n\n\nJustin Van Orsdol's writing\nChristian Turner and Justin Van Orsdol, The Gun Subsidy\nOral Argument 101: Tug of War\nSpecial Guest: Justin Van Orsdol.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe are joined by our student, Justin Van Orsdol, who has co-authored a paper with Christian about a new approach to the gun violence crisis.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJustin Van Orsdol\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=3096029\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner and Justin Van Orsdol, \u003ca href=\"https://ssrn.com/abstract=3537278\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Gun Subsidy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/101\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 101: Tug of War\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Justin Van Orsdol.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On a solution to the gun violence crisis, with Justin Van Orsdol.","date_published":"2020-02-21T09:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/a337b063-b1b2-4dcd-b9be-44785679aab9.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":64360929,"duration_in_seconds":5363}]},{"id":"ce21e5fe-b32a-4520-bef7-7d690afec859","title":"Episode 208: Competition Corner","url":"https://oralargument.org/208","content_text":"We discuss a proposal by Sen. Hawley to abolish, more or less, the Federal Trade Commission, the agency that administers consumer protection and antitrust laws, and place its responsibilities in the Justice Department. Antitrust, the unitary executive, independent agencies, Joe's Competition Commission, and more.\n\n\nJosh Hawley, Overhauling the Federal Trade Commission\nMike Masnick, William Barr's Move to Rid the DOJ of Independence Shows One of Many Reasons Josh Hawley's FTC Plan Is Dangerous\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe discuss a proposal by Sen. Hawley to abolish, more or less, the Federal Trade Commission, the agency that administers consumer protection and antitrust laws, and place its responsibilities in the Justice Department. Antitrust, the unitary executive, independent agencies, Joe\u0026#39;s Competition Commission, and more.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Hawley, \u003ca href=\"https://www.hawley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/2020-02/Hawley-FTC-Overhaul.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOverhauling the Federal Trade Commission\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMike Masnick, \u003ca href=\"https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200212/16015343912/william-barrs-move-to-rid-doj-independence-shows-one-many-reasons-josh-hawleys-ftc-plan-is-dangerous.shtml\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWilliam Barr\u0026#39;s Move to Rid the DOJ of Independence Shows One of Many Reasons Josh Hawley\u0026#39;s FTC Plan Is Dangerous\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On reforming antitrust and competition law.","date_published":"2020-02-14T12:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/ce21e5fe-b32a-4520-bef7-7d690afec859.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":31721931,"duration_in_seconds":3901}]},{"id":"eba811f1-a824-4772-859b-aabc35480f92","title":"Episode 207: Bribery","url":"https://oralargument.org/207","content_text":"Sometimes in law, as in other areas of life, we think we know something, but the more we think about, the more we realize we don't know it at all. Legal scholars have focused on puzzles like this before, like why blackmail should be illegal. Deborah Hellman joins us to discuss her attempt to answer a question you might not have known you had: What is wrong with bribery, and what is bribery anyway? The difficulties here shed some light on recent events.\n\n\nDeborah Hellman's faculty profile and writing\nDeborah Hellman, A Theory of Bribery\nOral Argument 206: What Are We?\nSpecial Guest: Deborah Hellman.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eSometimes in law, as in other areas of life, we think we know something, but the more we think about, the more we realize we don\u0026#39;t know it at all. Legal scholars have focused on puzzles like this before, like why blackmail should be illegal. Deborah Hellman joins us to discuss her attempt to answer a question you might not have known you had: What is wrong with bribery, and what is bribery anyway? The difficulties here shed some light on recent events.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDeborah Hellman\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.virginia.edu/faculty/profile/dh9ev/2299809\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile and writing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDeborah Hellman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Papers.cfm?abstract_id=2828840\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Theory of Bribery\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/206\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 206: What Are We?\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Deborah Hellman.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On bribery, with Deborah Hellman.","date_published":"2020-01-31T16:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/eba811f1-a824-4772-859b-aabc35480f92.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40013524,"duration_in_seconds":4937}]},{"id":"4a8f5a3d-46ac-47db-b9ce-dc33c7846c2f","title":"Episode 206: What Are We?","url":"https://oralargument.org/206","content_text":"Joe and Christian discuss Christian's latest paper, on the way we define and separate markets, including European football, campaign finance, surrogate motherhood, and water bottles in disaster zones.\n\n\nChristian Turner, The Segregation of Markets (SSRN) (SocArXiv)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe and Christian discuss Christian\u0026#39;s latest paper, on the way we define and separate markets, including European football, campaign finance, surrogate motherhood, and water bottles in disaster zones.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003cem\u003eThe Segregation of Markets\u003c/em\u003e \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3342629\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e(SSRN)\u003c/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/5ehmy/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e(SocArXiv)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On the segregation of markets, an article by Christian.","date_published":"2020-01-17T15:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/4a8f5a3d-46ac-47db-b9ce-dc33c7846c2f.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48658050,"duration_in_seconds":6018}]},{"id":"9315a615-ee6b-4635-b67e-67f389e004ab","title":"Episode 205: iBonus","url":"https://oralargument.org/205","content_text":"Christian calls Joe out of the blue to celebrate our sixth anniversary and to talk about heroes.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eChristian calls Joe out of the blue to celebrate our sixth anniversary and to talk about heroes.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"A phone call about heroes.","date_published":"2019-12-22T16:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/9315a615-ee6b-4635-b67e-67f389e004ab.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":13888190,"duration_in_seconds":1671}]},{"id":"116d24e8-cee8-458b-b4be-ccde79c6af8f","title":"Episode 204: Theocracy","url":"https://oralargument.org/204","content_text":"We discuss new calls to integrate church and state. The conversation ranges over liberalism, religion, religious zeal, and, obviously, some nonsense.\n\n\nMicah Schwartzman and Jocelyn Wilson, The Unreasonableness of Catholic Integralism\nAdrian Vermeule, Integration from Within\nChristina Deardurff, \"The Depths of the Church Are Not to Be Disturbed\": An interview with Adrian Vermeule\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe discuss new calls to integrate church and state. The conversation ranges over liberalism, religion, religious zeal, and, obviously, some nonsense.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMicah Schwartzman and Jocelyn Wilson, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3436376\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Unreasonableness of Catholic Integralism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdrian Vermeule, \u003ca href=\"https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/02/integration-from-within/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIntegration from Within\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristina Deardurff, \u003ca href=\"https://mirrorofjustice.blogs.com/files/vermeule-article.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e\u0026quot;The Depths of the Church Are Not to Be Disturbed\u0026quot;: An interview with Adrian Vermeule\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On Catholic integralism and liberalism.","date_published":"2019-10-13T14:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/116d24e8-cee8-458b-b4be-ccde79c6af8f.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":44453684,"duration_in_seconds":5492}]},{"id":"9c3d7859-def3-4609-8e06-b949ed53cb33","title":"Episode 203: Fifty-Four","url":"https://oralargument.org/203","content_text":"On immaturity, defensiveness, art, the intellect, models, and the self. And mailbag on scholarship and practice, Title VII, and Star Trek. It's Joe's birthday.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eOn immaturity, defensiveness, art, the intellect, models, and the self. And mailbag on scholarship and practice, Title VII, and Star Trek. It\u0026#39;s Joe\u0026#39;s birthday.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Musings and mailbag.","date_published":"2019-09-08T12:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/9c3d7859-def3-4609-8e06-b949ed53cb33.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":50113192,"duration_in_seconds":6200}]},{"id":"e4d00425-bfd6-4773-a52e-37f9806a05e8","title":"Episode 202: Conversations","url":"https://oralargument.org/202","content_text":"We discuss dictionaries, up and down on maps, and excellence in seminar conversation.\n\n\nJoseph Miller, Suggestions for Law School Seminars\nSeminar Skills – Learning Collaboratively\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe discuss dictionaries, up and down on maps, and excellence in seminar conversation.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Miller, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3425608\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSuggestions for Law School Seminars\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://sjcadmissionsblog.com/2019/07/22/seminar-skills-learning-collaboratively/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSeminar Skills – Learning Collaboratively\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On seminars and excellence.","date_published":"2019-08-23T16:15:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/e4d00425-bfd6-4773-a52e-37f9806a05e8.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":41048946,"duration_in_seconds":5067}]},{"id":"5a664d70-fa4b-4bad-8d60-cf6cbd19d150","title":"Episode 201: The Bag","url":"https://oralargument.org/201","content_text":"Just Joe and Christian, lumbering into season 2, talking about tipping and fraud in the gig economy, bar exam fiascos, legal scholarship, and fireworks.\n\n\nAndy Newman, DoorDash Changes Tipping Model After Uproar From Customers\nDonna Hershkowitz, The State Bar of California, Statement on July 2019 Bar Exam Release of General Topics\nOral Argument 61: Minimum Competence (guest Derek Muller)\nThe Weeds, Vox's podcast for politics and policy, the episode Dysfunctional Federalism with David Schleicher is accessible within their player or, obv, in your podcast app\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJust Joe and Christian, lumbering into season 2, talking about tipping and fraud in the gig economy, bar exam fiascos, legal scholarship, and fireworks.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAndy Newman, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/24/nyregion/doordash-tip-policy.html?action=click\u0026module=inline\u0026pgtype=Article\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDoorDash Changes Tipping Model After Uproar From Customers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDonna Hershkowitz, The State Bar of California, \u003ca href=\"http://www.calbar.ca.gov/About-Us/News-Events/News-Releases/statement-on-july-2019-bar-exam-release-of-general-topics\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eStatement on July 2019 Bar Exam Release of General Topics\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/61\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 61: Minimum Competence\u003c/a\u003e (guest Derek Muller)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/the-weeds\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Weeds\u003c/a\u003e, Vox\u0026#39;s podcast for politics and policy, the episode \u003cem\u003eDysfunctional Federalism\u003c/em\u003e with David Schleicher is accessible within their player or, obv, in your podcast app\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On tipping, fraud, bar exams, and law.","date_published":"2019-07-28T20:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/5a664d70-fa4b-4bad-8d60-cf6cbd19d150.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":51261630,"duration_in_seconds":6343}]},{"id":"0f58b20e-daa5-4429-bf83-f76b987d9e8e","title":"Episode 200: Cite Me, Don't Slight Me","url":"https://oralargument.org/200","content_text":"We kick off Season 2 with assorted nonsense before diving into our second SCOTUS round-up, which consists entirely of the Supreme Court's decision on the census citizenship question.\n\n\nDep't of Commerce v. New York\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe kick off Season 2 with assorted nonsense before diving into our second SCOTUS round-up, which consists entirely of the Supreme Court\u0026#39;s decision on the census citizenship question.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/18-966_bq7c.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDep\u0026#39;t of Commerce v. New York\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On the census debacle.","date_published":"2019-07-08T16:45:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/0f58b20e-daa5-4429-bf83-f76b987d9e8e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":63423420,"duration_in_seconds":7863}]},{"id":"98c3099a-85bf-4f96-a250-a42a5d1cb114","title":"Episode 199: Offended Observer","url":"https://oralargument.org/199","content_text":"We discuss items from the mailbag and go ahead and conduct our annual, absurd Supreme Court round-up (fifty minutes in).\n\n\nJames Macleod, Ordinary Causation: A Study in Experimental Statutory Interpretation\nObriecht v. Splinter\nJohari Canty, Florida Deputies Find Sign Warning Drivers About Upcoming Speed Trap\nAmerican Legion v. American Humanist Ass'n\nKnick v. Township of Scott\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe discuss items from the mailbag and go ahead and conduct our annual, absurd Supreme Court round-up (fifty minutes in).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Macleod, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3352745\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOrdinary Causation: A Study in Experimental Statutory Interpretation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15666046241258319811\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eObriecht v. Splinter\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohari Canty, \u003ca href=\"https://wsvn.com/news/local/florida-deputies-find-sign-warning-drivers-about-upcoming-speed-trap/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFlorida Deputies Find Sign Warning Drivers About Upcoming Speed Trap\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-1717_j426.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmerican Legion v. American Humanist Ass\u0026#39;n\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-647_m648.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKnick v. Township of Scott\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"We discuss items from the mailbag and go ahead and conduct our annual and absurd Supreme Court round-up (fifty minutes in).","date_published":"2019-06-22T20:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/98c3099a-85bf-4f96-a250-a42a5d1cb114.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":79429751,"duration_in_seconds":7887}]},{"id":"15754068-7406-4e7e-9245-1c6656949856","title":"Episode 198: The Means of Randomization","url":"https://oralargument.org/198","content_text":"How would you feel if you found out you were unwittingly the subject of an experiment testing two alternatives? You got A, and another group got B. Many people object to this. But what if neither A nor B was at all objectionable and in fact each is served up at many other places unilaterally and without reason for preferring one to the other? Why should we object to being randomly given A or B for the purpose of testing, when we would not object to having either uniformly and arbitrarily imposed? We are joined again by Michelle Meyer to discuss this problem, made famous recently by Facebook and other A/B testing entrepreneurs. \n\n\nMichelle Meyer’s web page, faculty profile, and writing\nMichelle Meyer et al., Objecting to Experiments that Compare Two Unobjectionable Policies or Treatments\nOral Argument 72: The Guinea Pig Problem (guest Michelle Meyer)\nSpecial Guest: Michelle Meyer.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eHow would you feel if you found out you were unwittingly the subject of an experiment testing two alternatives? You got A, and another group got B. Many people object to this. But what if neither A nor B was at all objectionable and in fact each is served up at many other places unilaterally and without reason for preferring one to the other? Why should we object to being randomly given A or B for the purpose of testing, when we would not object to having either uniformly and arbitrarily imposed? We are joined again by Michelle Meyer to discuss this problem, made famous recently by Facebook and other A/B testing entrepreneurs. \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichelle Meyer’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.michellenmeyer.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eweb page\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://www.geisinger.edu/research/research-and-innovation/find-an-investigator/2018/04/04/13/27/michelle-meyer\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://www.michellenmeyer.com/writing.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichelle Meyer et al., \u003ca href=\"https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2019/05/08/1820701116.full.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eObjecting to Experiments that Compare Two Unobjectionable Policies or Treatments\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/72\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 72: The Guinea Pig Problem\u003c/a\u003e (guest Michelle Meyer)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Michelle Meyer.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On \"irrational\" reactions to experimentation, with Michelle Meyer.","date_published":"2019-05-28T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/15754068-7406-4e7e-9245-1c6656949856.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":56566862,"duration_in_seconds":5601}]},{"id":"e8ab89cc-a663-4f21-b10e-d16c804c6109","title":"Episode 197: LARPing","url":"https://oralargument.org/197","content_text":"We talk about LARPing, emotions, meaning, exam writing, grading, happiness, and other things.\n\n\nLawrence S. Krieger and Kennon M. Sheldon, What Makes Lawyers Happy? A Data-Driven Prescription to Redefine Professional Success\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk about LARPing, emotions, meaning, exam writing, grading, happiness, and other things.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence S. Krieger and Kennon M. Sheldon, \u003ca href=\"https://ir.law.fsu.edu/articles/94/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Makes Lawyers Happy? A Data-Driven Prescription to Redefine Professional Success\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On grading and happiness ... and LARPing, with Joe and Christian.","date_published":"2019-05-15T19:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/e8ab89cc-a663-4f21-b10e-d16c804c6109.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":52799221,"duration_in_seconds":5224}]},{"id":"97b99f0a-a56f-4601-ac67-00803c8de11a","title":"Episode 196: It at Least Exists","url":"https://oralargument.org/196","content_text":"Is the common law efficient? Richard Posner, among many others, has argued that it is, perhaps even without judges ever themselves focusing on that goal. Daniel Sokol joins us to discuss how understanding law as a platform, like modular and open-source software platforms, helps to see how some areas of the law might indeed become more efficient over time while others might not.\n\n\nDaniel Sokol's faculty profile and writing\nDaniel Sokol, Rethinking the Efficiency of the Common Law\nSpecial Guest: Daniel Sokol.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIs the common law efficient? Richard Posner, among many others, has argued that it is, perhaps even without judges ever themselves focusing on that goal. Daniel Sokol joins us to discuss how understanding law as a platform, like modular and open-source software platforms, helps to see how some areas of the law might indeed become more efficient over time while others might not.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Sokol\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.ufl.edu/faculty/d-daniel-sokol\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=362604\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Sokol, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3328025\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRethinking the Efficiency of the Common Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Daniel Sokol.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On common law as a platform and its efficiency, with Daniel Sokol.","date_published":"2019-04-21T12:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/97b99f0a-a56f-4601-ac67-00803c8de11a.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":46381719,"duration_in_seconds":4582}]},{"id":"a01c19fa-4783-429a-8d4a-bd0cae752166","title":"Episode 195: Based","url":"https://oralargument.org/195","content_text":"We dip back into the mailbag to discuss verdicts, unpublished opinions, \"based off,\" canons and anti-canons, and more.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe dip back into the mailbag to discuss verdicts, unpublished opinions, \u0026quot;based off,\u0026quot; canons and anti-canons, and more.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Into the mailbag we go.","date_published":"2019-04-07T18:15:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/a01c19fa-4783-429a-8d4a-bd0cae752166.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48213947,"duration_in_seconds":4766}]},{"id":"f0d29f1e-9472-4ab8-8441-6a6aa91f30bc","title":"Episode 194: Topoi","url":"https://oralargument.org/194","content_text":"With Zahr Said and Jessica Silbey, we discuss new narrative forms, their setting, and their influence on law and legal education. How do the natures of podcasts, twitter, fake news, and deep fakes affect the way we experience culture together and how do they construct that culture and our legal culture?\n\n\nZahr Said's faculty profile and writing\nJessica Silbey's faculty profile and writing\nZahr Said and Jessica Silbey, Narrative Topoi in the Digital Age\nRyan Calo, Digital Market Manipulation\nDaniel Solove, Privacy and Power: Computer Databases and Metaphors for Information Privacy\nSpecial Guests: Jessica Silbey and Zahr Said.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWith Zahr Said and Jessica Silbey, we discuss new narrative forms, their setting, and their influence on law and legal education. How do the natures of podcasts, twitter, fake news, and deep fakes affect the way we experience culture together and how do they construct that culture and our legal culture?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eZahr Said\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/said-zahr-k\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1030166\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJessica Silbey\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.northeastern.edu/law/faculty/directory/silbey.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=380489\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eZahr Said and Jessica Silbey, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3293933\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNarrative Topoi in the Digital Age\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRyan Calo, \u003ca href=\"https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/faculty-articles/25/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDigital Market Manipulation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Solove, \u003ca href=\"https://scholarship.law.gwu.edu/faculty_publications/924/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePrivacy and Power: Computer Databases and Metaphors for Information Privacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guests: Jessica Silbey and Zahr Said.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On narrative topoi, with Zahr Said and Jessica Silbey.","date_published":"2019-03-24T10:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/f0d29f1e-9472-4ab8-8441-6a6aa91f30bc.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":36533817,"duration_in_seconds":3598}]},{"id":"08d00476-4af4-4ef4-bffc-67c8cdffa30c","title":"Episode 193: A Giant Thunderstorm","url":"https://oralargument.org/193","content_text":"Fast on the heels of her last appearance, Carissa Hessick joins us to talk about corpus linguistics, which means... well, we debate this, but, generally, the use of computer-based methods to draw inferences from large databases of texts. What is this enterprise? How can and should it be used to answer legal questions? What does it mean to mean something? These questions, thunder, sense, nonsense, and a continued delving into Joe's pscyhe all feature in this episode.\n\n\nCarissa Hessick’s faculty profile and writing\nCarissa Byrne Hessick, Corpus Linguistics and the Criminal Law\nLawrence Solum, Legal Theory Lexicon: Corpus Linguistics\nJames Phillips, Daniel Ortner, and Thomas Lee, Corpus Linguistics and Original Public Meaning: A New Tool to Make Originalism More Empirical\nSpecial Guest: Carissa Hessick.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eFast on the heels of her last appearance, Carissa Hessick joins us to talk about corpus linguistics, which means... well, we debate this, but, generally, the use of computer-based methods to draw inferences from large databases of texts. What is this enterprise? How can and should it be used to answer legal questions? What does it mean to mean something? These questions, thunder, sense, nonsense, and a continued delving into Joe\u0026#39;s pscyhe all feature in this episode.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCarissa Hessick’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.unc.edu/faculty/directory/hessickcarissabyrne/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=445060\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCarissa Byrne Hessick, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3031987\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCorpus Linguistics and the Criminal Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Solum, \u003ca href=\"https://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheory/2017/10/legal-theory-lexicon-corpus-linguistics.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal Theory Lexicon: Corpus Linguistics\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Phillips, Daniel Ortner, and Thomas Lee, \u003ca href=\"https://www.yalelawjournal.org/forum/corpus-linguistics-original-public-meaning\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCorpus Linguistics and Original Public Meaning: A New Tool to Make Originalism More Empirical\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Carissa Hessick.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On corpus linguistics, with Carissa Hessick.","date_published":"2019-03-17T13:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/08d00476-4af4-4ef4-bffc-67c8cdffa30c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48068445,"duration_in_seconds":4751}]},{"id":"bac789fd-d846-437a-a8cf-69814799e6cd","title":"Episode 192: Precisification","url":"https://oralargument.org/192","content_text":"At long last, we discuss originalism with one of its foremost proponents, Lawrence Solum. In this conversation, we focus on Larry's recent effort to identify what constitutes originalism as a category of interpretive theories and what distinguishes it from other theories, including living constitutionalism.\n\nThis episode's links:\n\n\nLarry Solum's faculty profile and writing\nLegal Theory Blog (see also Larry's very helpful Legal Theory Lexicon)\nLawrence Solum, Originalism versus Living Constitutionalism: The Conceptual Structure of the Great Debate (As mentioned in this episode, this article is a great starting point for understanding the various theories and methods of originalism and non-originalism. It contains excellent references to the key literature, which we'd ordinarily include here in the show notes. But since it's so comprehensive, we'll just include this link.)\nDavid Plunkett, Which Concepts Should We Use?: Metalinguistic Negotiations and The Methodology of Philosophy\nSpecial Guest: Lawrence Solum.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAt long last, we discuss originalism with one of its foremost proponents, Lawrence Solum. In this conversation, we focus on Larry\u0026#39;s recent effort to identify what constitutes originalism as a category of interpretive theories and what distinguishes it from other theories, including living constitutionalism.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis episode\u0026#39;s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLarry Solum\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/lawrence-b-solum/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=327316\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://lsolum.typepad.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal Theory Blog\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see also Larry\u0026#39;s very helpful \u003ca href=\"https://lsolum.typepad.com/legal_theory_lexicon/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal Theory Lexicon\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Solum, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3324264\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOriginalism versus Living Constitutionalism: The Conceptual Structure of the Great Debate\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (As mentioned in this episode, this article is a great starting point for understanding the various theories and methods of originalism and non-originalism. It contains excellent references to the key literature, which we\u0026#39;d ordinarily include here in the show notes. But since it\u0026#39;s so comprehensive, we\u0026#39;ll just include this link.)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Plunkett, \u003ca href=\"https://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Eplunkett/metalinguistic-negotiations.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhich Concepts Should We Use?: Metalinguistic Negotiations and The Methodology of Philosophy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Lawrence Solum.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On originalism, with Larry Solum.","date_published":"2019-03-03T10:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/bac789fd-d846-437a-a8cf-69814799e6cd.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":50395955,"duration_in_seconds":4984}]},{"id":"ad8f8593-83f7-4d55-a2ab-6108841fc7e3","title":"Episode 191: Dynasty","url":"https://oralargument.org/191","content_text":"After discussion of failing memory, mispronunciation of names, and legal scholarship, we turn to a very serious topic with our guest, Eric Kades. The looming threat of dynastic wealth in the United States has been much discussed since, and even before, the publication of Thomas Piketty's Capital in the Twenty-First Century. We discuss Piketty's now-famous inequality, r \u0026gt; g, how certain legal rules handled the building of perpetual dynasties, the attack on those rules during the historically unusual period during which many of us have grown up, and Eric's proposed tax to fend off some of the dangers.\n\nThis episode's links:\n\n\nEric Kade’s faculty profile and writing\nEric Kades, Of Piketty and Perpetuities\nThomas Piketty, Capital in the Twenty-First Century\nSpecial Guest: Eric Kades.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAfter discussion of failing memory, mispronunciation of names, and legal scholarship, we turn to a very serious topic with our guest, Eric Kades. The looming threat of dynastic wealth in the United States has been much discussed since, and even before, the publication of Thomas Piketty\u0026#39;s \u003cem\u003eCapital in the Twenty-First Century\u003c/em\u003e. We discuss Piketty\u0026#39;s now-famous inequality, r \u0026gt; g, how certain legal rules handled the building of perpetual dynasties, the attack on those rules during the historically unusual period during which many of us have grown up, and Eric\u0026#39;s proposed tax to fend off some of the dangers.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis episode\u0026#39;s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEric Kade’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.wm.edu/faculty/bios/fulltime/eakade.php\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=167429\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEric Kades, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3056497\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOf Piketty and Perpetuities\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThomas Piketty, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674979857\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCapital in the Twenty-First Century\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Eric Kades.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On wealth inequality and perpetuities, with Eric Kades","date_published":"2019-02-24T10:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/ad8f8593-83f7-4d55-a2ab-6108841fc7e3.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":47207188,"duration_in_seconds":4665}]},{"id":"972d8c7c-88de-476b-a8d5-5069f11f076b","title":"Episode 190: Why We Write","url":"https://oralargument.org/190","content_text":"Just Joe and Christian talking about, inter alia, a paper about judicial writing and practice by the late Judge Wald. Live to tape and shipped without editing. Buyer beware!\n\n\nPatricia Wald, The Rhetoric of Results and the Results of Rhetoric: Judicial Writings\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJust Joe and Christian talking about, inter alia, a paper about judicial writing and practice by the late Judge Wald. Live to tape and shipped without editing. Buyer beware!\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePatricia Wald, \u003ca href=\"https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/uclrev/vol62/iss4/8/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Rhetoric of Results and the Results of Rhetoric: Judicial Writings\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian on the late Judge Wald's views on judicial rhetoric and practice ","date_published":"2019-02-10T18:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/972d8c7c-88de-476b-a8d5-5069f11f076b.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":52699433,"duration_in_seconds":5214}]},{"id":"8120708f-1285-4837-9afa-003c5fb5bc93","title":"Episode 189: Repugnance","url":"https://oralargument.org/189","content_text":"Kim Krawiec rejoins us to discuss \"repugnant\" transactions. One common target of this adjective is trade in human body parts. While on the one hand making more matching kidneys available saves lives and prevents large amounts of suffering, on the other hand revulsion and concerns about coercion and distributive fairness arise when kidneys are bought and paid for. In recent years, a number of innovative market designs have allowed strangers to exchange kidneys without engaging in impersonal, commodified market transactions. And now there have been several global examples of such exchanges, transferring not only kidneys but also the resources needed to perform transplants in poor countries. But are these alternative designs still \"markets,\" and what exactly is our problem with markets in kidneys anyway?\n\n\nKim Krawiec’s faculty profile, writing, and website\nOral Argument 17: Flesh List (guest Kim Krawiec)\nKimberly Krawiec, Kidneys Without Money (a landing page for this article and responses by Glenn Cohen and Weyma Lübbe)\nKieran Healy, Last Best Gifts\nKieran Healy and Kimberly Krawiec, Repugnance Management and Transactions in the Body\nPhilip Cook and Kimberly Krawiec, If We Allow Football Players and Boxers to Be Paid for Entertaining the Public, Why Don’t We Allow Kidney Donors to Be Paid for Saving Lives?\nPhilip Cook and Kimberly Krawiec, A Primer on Kidney Transplantation: Anatomy of the Shortage\nSpecial Guest: Kimberly Krawiec.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eKim Krawiec rejoins us to discuss \u0026quot;repugnant\u0026quot; transactions. One common target of this adjective is trade in human body parts. While on the one hand making more matching kidneys available saves lives and prevents large amounts of suffering, on the other hand revulsion and concerns about coercion and distributive fairness arise when kidneys are bought and paid for. In recent years, a number of innovative market designs have allowed strangers to exchange kidneys without engaging in impersonal, commodified market transactions. And now there have been several global examples of such exchanges, transferring not only kidneys but also the resources needed to perform transplants in poor countries. But are these alternative designs still \u0026quot;markets,\u0026quot; and what exactly is our problem with markets in kidneys anyway?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKim Krawiec’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.duke.edu/fac/krawiec/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://kimberlydkrawiec.org/publications/chronological/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://kimberlydkrawiec.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewebsite\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/17\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 17: Flesh List\u003c/a\u003e (guest Kim Krawiec)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://kimberlydkrawiec.org/repugnance-readings-for-the-new-year/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKidneys Without Money\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a landing page for this article and responses by Glenn Cohen and Weyma Lübbe)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKieran Healy, \u003ca href=\"https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/L/bo3752847.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLast Best Gifts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKieran Healy and Kimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/faculty_scholarship/3736/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRepugnance Management and Transactions in the Body\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePhilip Cook and Kimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/lcp/vol81/iss3/2/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIf We Allow Football Players and Boxers to Be Paid for Entertaining the Public, Why Don’t We Allow Kidney Donors to Be Paid for Saving Lives?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePhilip Cook and Kimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/lcp/vol77/iss3/2/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Primer on Kidney Transplantation: Anatomy of the Shortage\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Kimberly Krawiec.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On repugnant transactions, with Kim Krawiec.","date_published":"2019-01-27T12:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/8120708f-1285-4837-9afa-003c5fb5bc93.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":46896070,"duration_in_seconds":4634}]},{"id":"d23b5205-a06b-4ab2-8a82-5ec0b1cb2877","title":"Episode 188: Common Law Crimes","url":"https://oralargument.org/188","content_text":"If you were charged with a crime, would you rather it be one written down by a legislature and codified in the tomes of a state's laws or one marked out by the decisions of judges over time? You're hardly alone if you chose the first option, and it is in fact the conventional wisdom that we have rightfully abandoned and prohibited \"common law crimes.\" Not so fast, says our guest, Carissa Hessick. Our system of criminal law is still host to a good deal of common law, in the interstices of statutory text, through explicit incorporation, and sometimes from thin air. More importantly, if what you care about is the rule of law, then our system of code, in which prosecutors exercise less visible and less precedent-governed authority than any common law judge, hardly fits the bill.\n\n\nCarissa Hessick’s faculty profile and writing\nCarissa Hessick, The Myth of Common Law Crimes\nUnited States v. Hudson and Goodwin\nBordenkircher v. Hayes\nYates v. United States\nBond v. United States\nCarissa Hessick, Vagueness Principles\nBob Ratterman, Judicial Candidate Expresses Frustration with the Plea Bargain Process\nJames Burnham, Why Don’t Courts Dismiss Indictments? A Simple Suggestion For Making Federal Criminal Law A Little Less Lawless\nIon Meyn, Why Civil and Criminal Procedure Are So Different: A Forgotten History\nSpecial Guest: Carissa Hessick.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIf you were charged with a crime, would you rather it be one written down by a legislature and codified in the tomes of a state\u0026#39;s laws or one marked out by the decisions of judges over time? You\u0026#39;re hardly alone if you chose the first option, and it is in fact the conventional wisdom that we have rightfully abandoned and prohibited \u0026quot;common law crimes.\u0026quot; Not so fast, says our guest, Carissa Hessick. Our system of criminal law is still host to a good deal of common law, in the interstices of statutory text, through explicit incorporation, and sometimes from thin air. More importantly, if what you care about is the rule of law, then our system of code, in which prosecutors exercise less visible and less precedent-governed authority than any common law judge, hardly fits the bill.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCarissa Hessick’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.unc.edu/faculty/directory/hessickcarissabyrne/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=445060\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCarissa Hessick, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3139831\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Myth of Common Law Crimes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10808232938953194239\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Hudson and Goodwin\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3433599856216279138\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBordenkircher v. Hayes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4276838743116849486\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eYates v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14369486041709640908\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBond v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCarissa Hessick, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2837743\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVagueness Principles\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBob Ratterman, \u003ca href=\"https://www.journal-news.com/news/local/judicial-candidate-expresses-frustration-with-the-plea-bargain-process/DEn1cDLn83Hz2m5GLIiJjJ/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJudicial Candidate Expresses Frustration with the Plea Bargain Process\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Burnham, \u003ca href=\"http://www.greenbag.org/v18n4/v18n4_articles_burnham.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Don’t Courts Dismiss Indictments? A Simple Suggestion For Making Federal Criminal Law A Little Less Lawless\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eIon Meyn, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3070478\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Civil and Criminal Procedure Are So Different: A Forgotten History\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Carissa Hessick.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the virtues and non-extinction of common law crimes, with Carissa Hessick.","date_published":"2019-01-20T11:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/d23b5205-a06b-4ab2-8a82-5ec0b1cb2877.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":34855188,"duration_in_seconds":3430}]},{"id":"a3e97e50-ece9-4841-ae66-24cc480829bf","title":"Episode 187: Both Sides of the V","url":"https://oralargument.org/187","content_text":"Jocelyn Simonson returns to the show to wake us up to the many public interests on both sides (and no sides and all sides) in criminal cases. We discuss whether prosecutors are synonymous with \"the People\" and how a broader conception of \"the People's\" interests in criminal adjudication might suggest more robust public participation in the criminal process.\n\n\nJocelyn Simonson’s faculty profile and writing\nJocelyn Simonson, The Place of \"the People\" in Criminal Procedure\nOral Argument 95: Own the Block (guest Jocelyn Simonson)\nSerial Season 3\nMarie Gottschalk, Caught: The Prison State and the Lockdown of American Politics\nUnsigned Note, The Paradox of \"Progressive Prosecution\"\nBarry Friedman and Maria Ponomarenko, Democratic Policing\nLaura Appleman, Defending the Jury\nJocelyn Simonson, The Criminal Court Audience in a Post-Trial World\nAlexandra Natapoff, The Penal Pyramid\nCarol Steiker, Tempering or Tampering? Mercy and the Administration of Criminal Justice\nSpecial Guest: Jocelyn Simonson.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJocelyn Simonson returns to the show to wake us up to the many public interests on both sides (and no sides and all sides) in criminal cases. We discuss whether prosecutors are synonymous with \u0026quot;the People\u0026quot; and how a broader conception of \u0026quot;the People\u0026#39;s\u0026quot; interests in criminal adjudication might suggest more robust public participation in the criminal process.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJocelyn Simonson’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.brooklaw.edu/faculty/directory/facultymember/biography?id=jocelyn.simonson\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=700555\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJocelyn Simonson, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3273565\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Place of \u0026quot;the People\u0026quot; in Criminal Procedure\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/95\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 95: Own the Block\u003c/a\u003e (guest Jocelyn Simonson)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://serialpodcast.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSerial Season 3\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMarie Gottschalk, \u003ca href=\"https://press.princeton.edu/titles/10731.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCaught: The Prison State and the Lockdown of American Politics\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eUnsigned Note, \u003ca href=\"https://harvardlawreview.org/2018/12/the-paradox-of-progressive-prosecution/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Paradox of \u0026quot;Progressive Prosecution\u0026quot;\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBarry Friedman and Maria Ponomarenko, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nyulawreview.org/issues/volume-90-number-6/democratic-policing/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDemocratic Policing\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLaura Appleman, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Defending-Jury-Laura-I-Appleman/dp/1107650933\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDefending the Jury\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJocelyn Simonson, \u003ca href=\"https://brooklynworks.brooklaw.edu/faculty/298/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Criminal Court Audience in a Post-Trial World\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlexandra Natapoff, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=BI1WDwAAQBAJ\u0026pg=PA71\u0026lpg=PA71\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Penal Pyramid\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCarol Steiker, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=KOAoQiRFo70C\u0026pg=PA16\u0026lpg=PA16#v=onepage\u0026q\u0026f=false\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTempering or Tampering? Mercy and the Administration of Criminal Justice\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Jocelyn Simonson.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On public participation in criminal prosecution, with Jocelyn Simonson","date_published":"2019-01-12T10:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/a3e97e50-ece9-4841-ae66-24cc480829bf.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":46162813,"duration_in_seconds":4561}]},{"id":"8a80b6ff-741a-44c1-b02a-c14492a563c5","title":"Episode 186: Ephemeral","url":"https://oralargument.org/186","content_text":"Exactly five years after our first show, we record a conversation on the ephemeral or perduring nature of podcasts and blogs, dockless scooters and local regulation, and viewer mail.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eExactly five years after our first show, we record a conversation on the ephemeral or perduring nature of podcasts and blogs, dockless scooters and local regulation, and viewer mail.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian, on the fifth anniversary of the first episode.","date_published":"2018-12-22T16:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/8a80b6ff-741a-44c1-b02a-c14492a563c5.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":43848364,"duration_in_seconds":4329}]},{"id":"dc9ba949-c360-4784-878c-25d54ec07df6","title":"Episode 185: Embassy Suites","url":"https://oralargument.org/185","content_text":"Brexit, China, international trade, security, distribution, resentment, madness, and coffee with Tim Meyer.\n\n\nTim Meyer's faculty profile and writing\nOral Argument 105: Bismarck’s Raw Material (guest Tim Meyer)\nOral Argument 2: Bust a Deal, Face the Wheel (guest Tim Meyer)\nTimothy Meyer and Ganesh Sitaraman, Trade and the Separation of Powers\nNicolas Lamp, How Should We Think about the Winners and Losers from Globalization? Three Narratives and Their Implications for the Redesign of International Economic Agreements\nSpecial Guest: Tim Meyer.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eBrexit, China, international trade, security, distribution, resentment, madness, and coffee with Tim Meyer.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTim Meyer\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"http://law.vanderbilt.edu/bio/timothy-meyer\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=440142\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/105\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 105: Bismarck’s Raw Material\u003c/a\u003e (guest Tim Meyer)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/2\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 2: Bust a Deal, Face the Wheel\u003c/a\u003e (guest Tim Meyer)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTimothy Meyer and Ganesh Sitaraman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3136086\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTrade and the Separation of Powers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNicolas Lamp, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3290590\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow Should We Think about the Winners and Losers from Globalization? Three Narratives and Their Implications for the Redesign of International Economic Agreements\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Tim Meyer.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On Brexit, trade, and Trump, with Tim Meyer.","date_published":"2018-12-04T10:45:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/dc9ba949-c360-4784-878c-25d54ec07df6.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":52522062,"duration_in_seconds":5196}]},{"id":"93259b9d-bca1-4fdb-9a72-89f8051f3cb8","title":"Episode 184: Bleep that Bleep","url":"https://oralargument.org/184","content_text":"Here's your Thanksgiving Holiday episode, perfect for travel and your other holiday needs. If you listen only for law-related content, you'll probably want to skip to 01:17:16, where we somewhat casually discuss the controversy over whether the supposed Acting Attorney General was properly appointed. But we discuss many mailbag-related topics: the California fires and climate change (00:25), politeness and over-decorousness (8:53), how we imagine the mailbag and the miracles of pre-computer-age physical organization (11:06), how to find a good coffeeshop and the origins of \"heyday\" (22:15), our supposed bad taste in movies and our regard for certain consumer electronics (38:47), caselaw access and textbooks (55:44), seekers (59:44), markdown and word processing and the inevitable demise of Oral Argument (01:03:19), a discussion of the pretending Acting Attorney General and meltdowns and trainwrecks (01:17:16), podcast recommendations (01:33:30).\n\n\nMary Beard's Ultimate Rome\nAbout Michael Mann\nAbout The Story of Star Wars LP\nTravis Bostick, Jóhann Jóhannsson, Mother!, and Sound Over Score\nCaselaw Access Project; H2O\nAbout Markdown\nOral Argument 11: Big Red Diesel, on Markdown and word processors\nUlysses and Byword\nBat Kid is cancer free\nJed Shugerman, Whitaker’s Appointment as Acting Attorney General Is Statutorily Illegal; Stephen Vladeck, Whitaker May Be a Bad Choice, but He’s a Legal One; Walter Dellinger and Marty Lederman, Initial Reactions to OLC’s Opinion on the Whitaker Designation as “Acting” Attorney General\nPodcasts: Bag Man, Slow Burn, Serial (and Oral Argument 44: Serial), Feeding Us, Ipse Dixit\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eHere\u0026#39;s your Thanksgiving Holiday episode, perfect for travel and your other holiday needs. If you listen only for law-related content, you\u0026#39;ll probably want to skip to 01:17:16, where we somewhat casually discuss the controversy over whether the supposed Acting Attorney General was properly appointed. But we discuss many mailbag-related topics: the California fires and climate change (00:25), politeness and over-decorousness (8:53), how we imagine the mailbag and the miracles of pre-computer-age physical organization (11:06), how to find a good coffeeshop and the origins of \u0026quot;heyday\u0026quot; (22:15), our supposed bad taste in movies and our regard for certain consumer electronics (38:47), caselaw access and textbooks (55:44), seekers (59:44), markdown and word processing and the inevitable demise of Oral Argument (01:03:19), a discussion of the pretending Acting Attorney General and meltdowns and trainwrecks (01:17:16), podcast recommendations (01:33:30).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0797yqk\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eMary Beard\u0026#39;s Ultimate Rome\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Mann\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout Michael Mann\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_Star_Wars\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout The Story of Star Wars LP\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTravis Bostick, \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.iac.gatech.edu/film2018/2018/02/12/johann-johannsson-mother-and-sound-over-score/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJóhann Jóhannsson, Mother!, and Sound Over Score\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://case.law\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eCaselaw Access Project\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://h2o.law.harvard.edu\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eH2O\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout Markdown\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/11\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 11: Big Red Diesel\u003c/a\u003e, on Markdown and word processors\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://ulysses.app\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eUlysses\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://bywordapp.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eByword\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/1062860135662530560\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBat Kid is cancer free\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJed Shugerman, \u003ca href=\"https://shugerblog.com/2018/11/09/whitakers-appointment-as-acting-attorney-general-is-statutorily-illegal/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhitaker’s Appointment as Acting Attorney General Is Statutorily Illegal\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Stephen Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/opinion/trump-attorney-general-constitutional.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhitaker May Be a Bad Choice, but He’s a Legal One\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Walter Dellinger and Marty Lederman, \u003ca href=\"https://www.justsecurity.org/61483/initial-reactions-olc-opinion-whitaker-designation-acting-attorney-general/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInitial Reactions to OLC’s Opinion on the Whitaker Designation as “Acting” Attorney General\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePodcasts: \u003ca href=\"https://www.msnbc.com/bagman\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBag Man\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://slate.com/slow-burn\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSlow Burn\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://serialpodcast.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSerial\u003c/a\u003e (and \u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/44\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 44: Serial\u003c/a\u003e), \u003ca href=\"http://feedingus.libsyn.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFeeding Us\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://shows.pippa.io/ipse-dixit\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eIpse Dixit\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian on many topics, including the AG controversy.","date_published":"2018-11-19T12:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/93259b9d-bca1-4fdb-9a72-89f8051f3cb8.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":66345800,"duration_in_seconds":6579}]},{"id":"790e0eac-ad98-43cf-8f0e-a26c1b435d16","title":"Episode 183: West Coast Model","url":"https://oralargument.org/183","content_text":"Episode 183: West Coast Model (guest Chris Elmendorf)\n\nWhy is housing so expensive in major West Coast and northeastern cities? Not just more than you might want to pay, but, often, prohibitively expensive with little sign of new supply in areas people want to live. Chris Elmendorf joins us to explain this problem and the limited effectiveness of two types of solutions, the Northeastern and West Coast models. Drawing on the intergovernmental approach of the Voting Rights Act, Chris argues that a strong state role in reviewing the regulatory activities of local governments, if done in the right way, could be the way forward. And it points to a dramatic rethinking of how land use law should be made and what problems it should try to solve.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nChris Elmendorf's faculty profile and writing\nChristopher Elmendorf, Beyond the Double Veto: Land Use Plans As Preemptive Intergovernmental Contracts\nWilliam Fischel, The Homevoter Hypothesis\nRoderick Hills, Jr. and David Schleicher, Planning an Affordable City\nRobert Ellickson, Suburban Growth Controls: An Economic and Legal Analysis\nAbout Senate Bill 827\nText of Senate Bill 828\nSpecial Guest: Chris Elmendorf.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eEpisode 183: West Coast Model (guest Chris Elmendorf)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eWhy is housing so expensive in major West Coast and northeastern cities? Not just more than you might want to pay, but, often, prohibitively expensive with little sign of new supply in areas people want to live. Chris Elmendorf joins us to explain this problem and the limited effectiveness of two types of solutions, the Northeastern and West Coast models. Drawing on the intergovernmental approach of the Voting Rights Act, Chris argues that a strong state role in reviewing the regulatory activities of local governments, if done in the right way, could be the way forward. And it points to a dramatic rethinking of how land use law should be made and what problems it should try to solve.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChris Elmendorf\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://law.ucdavis.edu/faculty/elmendorf/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=345940\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher Elmendorf, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3256857\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBeyond the Double Veto: Land Use Plans As Preemptive Intergovernmental Contracts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Fischel, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674015951\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Homevoter Hypothesis\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRoderick Hills, Jr. and David Schleicher, \u003ca href=\"https://ilr.law.uiowa.edu/print/volume-101-issue-1/planning-an-affordable-city/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlanning an Affordable City\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRobert Ellickson, \u003ca href=\"https://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/ylj/vol86/iss3/1/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSuburban Growth Controls: An Economic and Legal Analysis\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Senate_Bill_827\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout Senate Bill 827\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB828\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eText of Senate Bill 828\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Chris Elmendorf.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the housing crisis, with Chris Elmendorf.","date_published":"2018-11-10T17:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/790e0eac-ad98-43cf-8f0e-a26c1b435d16.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":56657768,"duration_in_seconds":5610}]},{"id":"9205ed2f-b61f-491b-9124-4200c70ab9e7","title":"Episode 182: An Editorial Board of Dodsonians","url":"https://oralargument.org/182","content_text":"The publication of legal scholarship is, compared with that in other academic disciplines, is, well, weird. Almost all legal journals are edited by students, and authors submit to many journals at once. We talk with Scott Dodson about his paper with law student and journal editor Jacob Hirsch. They elaborate a model code of conduct that could easily be implemented and would prevent some of the system's worst pathologies and bad behavior. We also have a little \"post-roll.\"\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nScott Dodson's faculty profile and writing\nScott Dodson and Jacob Hirsch, A Model Code of Conduct for Student-Edited Law-Journal Submissions\nOral Argument 96: Students as Means\nSpecial Guest: Scott Dodson.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThe publication of legal scholarship is, compared with that in other academic disciplines, is, well, weird. Almost all legal journals are edited by students, and authors submit to many journals at once. We talk with Scott Dodson about his paper with law student and journal editor Jacob Hirsch. They elaborate a model code of conduct that could easily be implemented and would prevent some of the system\u0026#39;s worst pathologies and bad behavior. We also have a little \u0026quot;post-roll.\u0026quot;\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Dodson\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.uchastings.edu/people/scott-dodson/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=670529\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Dodson and Jacob Hirsch, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3048413\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Model Code of Conduct for Student-Edited Law-Journal Submissions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/96\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 96: Students as Means\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Scott Dodson.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On law review submission norms, with Scott Dodson.","date_published":"2018-10-24T10:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/9205ed2f-b61f-491b-9124-4200c70ab9e7.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":53991188,"duration_in_seconds":5343}]},{"id":"1a7b36f9-689b-4d3b-be6a-053db3b9f627","title":"Episode 181: The Dragon","url":"https://oralargument.org/181","content_text":"We talk with our colleague Sandy Mayson about the use of algorithms in criminal law decisionmaking - and especially their troubling and difficult to disentangle incorporation of race. From bail to sentencing to policing effort to hiring and admitting to college, we subject different social groups to different risks of erroneous treatment, predicting, for example, that an individual is likely to commit another crime when in fact he or she will not reoffend. What should we do? Reject the use of algorithms - is that even possible? Attempt to \"correct\" the algorithms? Sandy teaches us about the difficulty of achieving algorithmic fairness.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSandy Mayson's faculty profile and writing\nSandra Mayson, Bias In, Bias Out\nMalcolm Feeley and Jonathan Simon, The New Penology: Notes on the Emerging Strategy of Corrections and Its Implications\nRobert Martinson, What Works? Questions and Answers about Prison Reform\nAdam Kolber, Punishment and Moral Risk\nDouglas Husak, Kinds of Punishment; Douglas Husak, What Do Criminals Deserve?\nSpecial Guest: Sandy Mayson.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk with our colleague Sandy Mayson about the use of algorithms in criminal law decisionmaking - and especially their troubling and difficult to disentangle incorporation of race. From bail to sentencing to policing effort to hiring and admitting to college, we subject different social groups to different risks of erroneous treatment, predicting, for example, that an individual is likely to commit another crime when in fact he or she will not reoffend. What should we do? Reject the use of algorithms - is that even possible? Attempt to \u0026quot;correct\u0026quot; the algorithms? Sandy teaches us about the difficulty of achieving algorithmic fairness.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSandy Mayson\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/sandra-g-mayson\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=714728\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSandra Mayson, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3257004\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBias In, Bias Out\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMalcolm Feeley and Jonathan Simon, \u003ca href=\"https://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1717\u0026context=facpubs\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe New Penology: Notes on the Emerging Strategy of Corrections and Its Implications\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRobert Martinson, \u003ca href=\"https://www.pbpp.pa.gov/research_statistics/Documents/Martinson-What%20Works%201974.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Works? Questions and Answers about Prison Reform\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdam Kolber, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2896948\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePunishment and Moral Risk\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDouglas Husak, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2979458\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKinds of Punishment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Douglas Husak, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2788152\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Do Criminals Deserve?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Sandy Mayson.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On algorithms and bias, with Sandy Mayson.","date_published":"2018-10-10T10:45:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/1a7b36f9-689b-4d3b-be6a-053db3b9f627.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45678492,"duration_in_seconds":4447}]},{"id":"ea5d6d10-34d3-4610-986e-31bd1e7c7fac","title":"Episode 180: Spectral","url":"https://oralargument.org/180","content_text":"Just Joe and Christian on: listener feedback (01:09),  the Supreme Court confirmation crisis and constitutional structure (round one) (08:00), more feedback (17:16), reading glasses (36:10), Apple and Daring Fireball and caring (41:43), peak iPhone (52:34), and the current state of the Kavanaugh nomination, partisanship, and Supreme Court nominations generally (01:01:31). ","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJust Joe and Christian on: listener feedback (01:09),  the Supreme Court confirmation crisis and constitutional structure (round one) (08:00), more feedback (17:16), reading glasses (36:10), Apple and Daring Fireball and caring (41:43), peak iPhone (52:34), and the current state of the Kavanaugh nomination, partisanship, and Supreme Court nominations generally (01:01:31). \u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian, on SCOTUS confirmation battles, feedback, Apple, and assorted nonsense.","date_published":"2018-09-23T09:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/ea5d6d10-34d3-4610-986e-31bd1e7c7fac.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":78822404,"duration_in_seconds":7826}]},{"id":"555b62ca-a4c0-4ab0-ab06-10968362874d","title":"Episode 179: Snowglobe","url":"https://oralargument.org/179","content_text":"Joe becomes the guest guest and Mike Madison the guest host, as we talk about Joe's new research into the web of law and what citations tell us about what law means. As one might expect for a show which is ostensibly about legal theory but actually, as all good argunauts know, an extended meditation on Being Joe, this is a very special episode of Oral Argument.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJoe Miller's faculty profile and writing\nMike Madison’s website, writing, and blog\nJoseph Miller, Law's Semantic Self-Portrait: Discerning Doctrine with Co-Citation Networks and Keywords\nJoseph Miller, Charting Supreme Court Patent Law, Near and Far; Joseph Miller, Which Supreme Court Cases Influenced Recent Supreme Court IP Decisions? A Citation Study\nCharles Barzun, Three Forms of Legal Pragmatism\nAndrew Green and Albert Yoon, Triaging the Law: Developing the Common Law on the Supreme Court of India\nFrank Pasquale, A Rule of Persons, Not Machines: The Limits of Legal Automation\nJames Scott, Seeing Like a State\nSpecial Guest: Mike Madison.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe becomes the guest guest and Mike Madison the guest host, as we talk about Joe\u0026#39;s new research into the web of law and what citations tell us about what law means. As one might expect for a show which is ostensibly about legal theory but actually, as all good argunauts know, an extended meditation on Being Joe, this is a very special episode of Oral Argument.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoe Miller\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/joseph-s-miller\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=104702\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMike Madison’s \u003ca href=\"http://madisonian.net/home/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewebsite\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://madisonian.net/home/?page_id=85\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://madisonian.net\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eblog\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Miller, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3212131\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaw\u0026#39;s Semantic Self-Portrait: Discerning Doctrine with Co-Citation Networks and Keywords\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Miller, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3125510\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCharting Supreme Court Patent Law, Near and Far\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Joseph Miller, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3012262\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhich Supreme Court Cases Influenced Recent Supreme Court IP Decisions? A Citation Study\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Barzun, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3178155\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThree Forms of Legal Pragmatism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAndrew Green and Albert Yoon, \u003ca href=\"https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jels.12161\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTriaging the Law: Developing the Common Law on the Supreme Court of India\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Pasquale, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3135549\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Rule of Persons, Not Machines: The Limits of Legal Automation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Scott, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=PqcPCgsr2u0C\u0026printsec=frontcover\u0026source=gbs_ge_summary_r\u0026cad=0#v=onepage\u0026q\u0026f=false\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSeeing Like a State\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Mike Madison.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"With guest host Mike Madison, we talk with guest guest Joe Miller about citation networks.","date_published":"2018-09-09T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/555b62ca-a4c0-4ab0-ab06-10968362874d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":52411825,"duration_in_seconds":5185}]},{"id":"37657f72-eca8-464a-bf96-0295c1468e73","title":"Episode 178: Dear Bushrod","url":"https://oralargument.org/178","content_text":"This week, it's the latest edition of \"Things Haven't Always Been Like This\". Farah Peterson teaches us about the judges of the early 1800s and their now-strange-seeming institutional world in which judging and legislating were less distinct and more collaborative.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nFarah Peterson’s faculty profile\nFarah Peterson, Interpretation as Statecraft: Chancellor Kent and the Collaborative Era of American Statutory Interpretation\nDark Sky (blog post)\nSiddhartha Mukherjee, The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer\nOral Argument 168: Galaxy-Sized Diamond (with Maggie McKinley on petitioning in Congress)\nRichard Verdon, A Large Meteor\nGuido Calabresi, A Common Law for the Age of Statutes\nSpecial Guest: Farah Peterson.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThis week, it\u0026#39;s the latest edition of \u0026quot;Things Haven\u0026#39;t Always Been Like This\u0026quot;. Farah Peterson teaches us about the judges of the early 1800s and their now-strange-seeming institutional world in which judging and legislating were less distinct and more collaborative.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFarah Peterson’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.virginia.edu/faculty/profile/fp9r/2708426\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFarah Peterson, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3201036\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInterpretation as Statecraft: Chancellor Kent and the Collaborative Era of American Statutory Interpretation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.hydratext.com/blog/2012/6/5/dark-sky.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDark Sky\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (blog post)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSiddhartha Mukherjee, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Emperor-All-Maladies-Biography-Cancer/dp/1439170916\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/168\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 168: Galaxy-Sized Diamond\u003c/a\u003e (with Maggie McKinley on petitioning in Congress)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Verdon, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/kjhealy/status/1032589101877395462\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Large Meteor\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGuido Calabresi, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books/about/A_Common_Law_for_the_Age_of_Statutes.html?id=KSy5QpdRMNsC\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Common Law for the Age of Statutes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Farah Peterson.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On judges, legislatures, and statutory interpretation in the early 1800s, with Farah Peterson.","date_published":"2018-08-26T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/37657f72-eca8-464a-bf96-0295c1468e73.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":46420902,"duration_in_seconds":4586}]},{"id":"32a0668f-c8d2-490b-900e-1678b23157a4","title":"Episode 177: The Hard Drive Has Always Been the Enemy","url":"https://oralargument.org/177","content_text":"It's our annual Supreme Court term roundup, with special guest Ian Samuel. We discuss, natch, one case, Carpenter v. United States, which concerns the need for a warrant to get records from cell phone companies concerning the location of your phone. But there's much more, including: hard drive upgrades, the sum total of human writing, audio vs. text for messaging, emojis, AI and grunts, Supreme Court-packing / balancing / restructuring (16:37), what rules of procedure an enlarged Court should set for itself and what rules should be imposed on it (29:00), podcast lengths and listening habits (51:04), Carpenter v. United States(01:02:06), Batman movies, and Hold-Up.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nFirst Mondays\nIan Samuel’s writing\nIan Samuel, The New Writs of Assistance\nSnopes, Did Facebook Shut Down an AI Experiment Because Chatbots Developed Their Own Language? (no, but interesting)\nOral Argument 134: Crossover\nChristian Turner, Amendment XXVIII: A First Draft\nIan Ayres and John Witt, Democrats Need a Plan B for the Supreme Court. Here’s One Option.\nOral Argument 37: Hammer Blow (with Michael Dorf); Oral Argument 38: You're Going to Hate this Answer_ (with Steve Vladeck); Christian Turner, Bound by Federal Law (including links to posts by Michael and Steve on the issue of state courts' not being bound by federal circuit courts)\nCarpenter v. United States\nRadiolab, Eye in the Sky\nIan Samuel, Warrantless Location Tracking\nLucas v. South Carolina Coastal Council\nFlorida v. Jardines\nJustice Souter’s discussion of Plessy and the role of history in judging (watch from minute one until about minute fourteen) and his Harvard Commencement speech on Plessy\nHold Up!\nSpecial Guest: Ian Samuel.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIt\u0026#39;s our annual Supreme Court term roundup, with special guest Ian Samuel. We discuss, natch, one case, Carpenter v. United States, which concerns the need for a warrant to get records from cell phone companies concerning the location of your phone. But there\u0026#39;s much more, including: hard drive upgrades, the sum total of human writing, audio vs. text for messaging, emojis, AI and grunts, Supreme Court-packing / balancing / restructuring (16:37), what rules of procedure an enlarged Court should set for itself and what rules should be imposed on it (29:00), podcast lengths and listening habits (51:04), Carpenter v. United States(01:02:06), Batman movies, and Hold-Up.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.firstmondays.fm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFirst Mondays\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eIan Samuel’s \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=936551\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eIan Samuel, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3075587\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe New Writs of Assistance\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSnopes, \u003ca href=\"https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/facebook-ai-developed-own-language/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDid Facebook Shut Down an AI Experiment Because Chatbots Developed Their Own Language?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (no, but interesting)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/134\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 134: Crossover\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"https://www.hydratext.com/blog/2018/7/12/amendment-xxviii\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmendment XXVIII: A First Draft\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eIan Ayres and John Witt, \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democrats-need-a-plan-b-for-the-supreme-court-heres-one-option/2018/07/27/4c77fd4e-91a6-11e8-b769-e3fff17f0689_story.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDemocrats Need a Plan B for the Supreme Court. Here’s One Option.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/37\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 37: Hammer Blow\u003c/a\u003e (with Michael Dorf); \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/38\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 38: You\u0026#39;re Going to Hate this Answer_\u003c/a\u003e (with Steve Vladeck); Christian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/10/29/bound-by-federal-law\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBound by Federal Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (including links to posts by Michael and Steve on the issue of state courts\u0026#39; not being bound by federal circuit courts)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-402_new_o75q.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCarpenter v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRadiolab, \u003ca href=\"https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/update-eye-sky/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEye in the Sky\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eIan Samuel, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1092293\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWarrantless Location Tracking\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=659168721517750079\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLucas v. South Carolina Coastal Council\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2570635442757547915\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFlorida v. Jardines\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJustice Souter’s discussion of \u003ca href=\"http://www.c-span.org/video/?284498-2/america-courts\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlessy\u003c/em\u003e and the role of history in judging\u003c/a\u003e (watch from minute one until about minute fourteen) and his \u003ca href=\"http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2010/05/text-of-justice-david-souters-speech/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eHarvard Commencement speech\u003c/a\u003e on \u003cem\u003ePlessy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2015/7/24/hold-up\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eHold Up!\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Ian Samuel.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On searches of cell tower records for location data and on many other things, with Ian Samuel.","date_published":"2018-08-07T10:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/32a0668f-c8d2-490b-900e-1678b23157a4.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":82535141,"duration_in_seconds":8133}]},{"id":"79eda329-9c6e-450a-aa91-54ca74ea21d0","title":"Episode 176: Ultimate Monday","url":"https://oralargument.org/176","content_text":"A full hour of pre-roll before our extended conversation (in the next episode) with Ian Samuel. Opening topics: Words, Joe's new paper, phones and their spam and locations. We argue about how to have an argument. Then we stumble into a psychological typology of judginess and prescriptivism. The heartland of the episode concerns the self, law, death, being and non-being, Joe's youthful fear of blindness, the external and internal point of view, the reality of firehouses, and law as a social practice for reaching acceptable social conclusions vs. law as a queryable thing. (Other potential show titles: Pure Pre-Roll, The Jerk Box, and The Jailor.)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAbout \"antepenultimate\" (including links to \"propreantepenultimate\")\nAbout Battle Royale games\nTim Dowling, Order Force: The Old Grammar Rule We All Obey Without Realising\nJoe Miller, Law's Semantic Self-Portrait: Discerning Doctrine with Co-Citation Networks and Keywords\nCarpenter v. United States\nAnil Seth, The Real Problem (on the problem of consciousness)\nPhilip Bobbitt, Constitutional Fate: Theory of the Constitution,\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eA full hour of pre-roll before our extended conversation (in the next episode) with Ian Samuel. Opening topics: Words, Joe\u0026#39;s new paper, phones and their spam and locations. We argue about how to have an argument. Then we stumble into a psychological typology of judginess and prescriptivism. The heartland of the episode concerns the self, law, death, being and non-being, Joe\u0026#39;s youthful fear of blindness, the external and internal point of view, the reality of firehouses, and law as a social practice for reaching acceptable social conclusions vs. law as a queryable thing. (Other potential show titles: Pure Pre-Roll, The Jerk Box, and The Jailor.)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/antepenultimate\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout \u0026quot;antepenultimate\u0026quot;\u003c/a\u003e (including links to \u0026quot;propreantepenultimate\u0026quot;)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royale_game\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout Battle Royale games\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTim Dowling, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/sentence-order-adjectives-rule-elements-of-eloquence-dictionary\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOrder Force: The Old Grammar Rule We All Obey Without Realising\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoe Miller, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3212131\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaw\u0026#39;s Semantic Self-Portrait: Discerning Doctrine with Co-Citation Networks and Keywords\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/17pdf/16-402_new_o75q.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCarpenter v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnil Seth, \u003ca href=\"https://aeon.co/essays/the-hard-problem-of-consciousness-is-a-distraction-from-the-real-one\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Real Problem\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (on the problem of consciousness)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePhilip Bobbitt, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=qVrjzOHlKsEC\u0026printsec=frontcover\u0026source=gbs_ge_summary_r\u0026cad=0#v=onepage\u0026q\u0026f=false\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eConstitutional Fate: Theory of the Constitution\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e,\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Joe and Christian, all pre-roll.","date_published":"2018-07-31T10:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/79eda329-9c6e-450a-aa91-54ca74ea21d0.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":39498144,"duration_in_seconds":3829}]},{"id":"4b6896a4-d864-435f-9eee-7063d5346f27","title":"Episode 175: The Law Should Not Kick Down","url":"https://oralargument.org/175","content_text":"We're joined by Paul Gowder to discuss the rule of law, private power, and technology. We start, after important discussion of fishing bycatch and speech patterns of the western United States, with Paul's more general thoughts on the rule of law, oligopolies, and equality. Conversation then focuses on the connection between substantive politics and rule of law and principles and then on the role of technology in facilitating collective action, including through Paul's Dr. StrangeContract and a new podcast idea for Paul's fights with customer service at large corporations and a prognostication of a future of AI retention specialists vs. CancelBots.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nPaul Gowder's faculty profile and website, which includes links to his writing\nPaul Gowder, The Rule of Law in the Real World\nPaul Gowder, Transformative Legal Technology and the Rule of Law\nAbout bycatch\nNathan Masters, The 5, the 101, the 405: Why Southern Californians Love Saying \"the\" Before Freeway Numbers\nMignon Fogarty, Spendy\nRoadwork\nAT\u0026amp;T Mobility v. Concepcion\nMargaret Jane Radin, Boilerplate: The Fine Print, Vanishing Rights, and the Rule of Law; see also Margaret Jane Radin, Boilerplate: A Threat to the Rule of Law?\nF.A. Hayek, Law, Legislation and Liberty: Vol.1\nElizabeth Anderson, What Is the Point of Equality?\nPericles's Funeral Oration\nOral Argument 133: Too Many Darn Radio Buttons (guest Jim Gibson)\nFrank Pasquale, Is Eviction-as-a-Service the Hottest New #LegalTech Trend?\nRon Amadeo, Talking to Google Duplex: Google’s Human-Like Phone AI Feels Revolutionary\nSpecial Guest: Paul Gowder.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe\u0026#39;re joined by Paul Gowder to discuss the rule of law, private power, and technology. We start, after important discussion of fishing bycatch and speech patterns of the western United States, with Paul\u0026#39;s more general thoughts on the rule of law, oligopolies, and equality. Conversation then focuses on the connection between substantive politics and rule of law and principles and then on the role of technology in facilitating collective action, including through Paul\u0026#39;s Dr. StrangeContract and a new podcast idea for Paul\u0026#39;s fights with customer service at large corporations and a prognostication of a future of AI retention specialists vs. CancelBots.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Gowder\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://law.uiowa.edu/paul-gowder\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://paul-gowder.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewebsite\u003c/a\u003e, which includes links to his writing\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Gowder, \u003ca href=\"http://rulelaw.net\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Rule of Law in the Real World\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Gowder, \u003ca href=\"https://utpjournals.press/doi/abs/10.3138/utlj.2017-0047\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTransformative Legal Technology and the Rule of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bycatch\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout bycatch\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNathan Masters, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/the-5-the-101-the-405-why-southern-californians-love-saying-the-before-freeway-numbers\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe 5, the 101, the 405: Why Southern Californians Love Saying \u0026quot;the\u0026quot; Before Freeway Numbers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMignon Fogarty, \u003ca href=\"https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/spendy\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSpendy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://5by5.tv/roadwork\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eRoadwork\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17088816341526709934\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAT\u0026amp;T Mobility v. Concepcion\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMargaret Jane Radin, \u003ca href=\"https://press.princeton.edu/titles/9837.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBoilerplate: The Fine Print, Vanishing Rights, and the Rule of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also Margaret Jane Radin, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2340005\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBoilerplate: A Threat to the Rule of Law?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eF.A. Hayek, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books/about/Law_Legislation_and_Liberty_Volume_1.html?id=4TjL9Ox1ntoC\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaw, Legislation and Liberty: Vol.1\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eElizabeth Anderson, \u003ca href=\"https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/233897?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Is the Point of Equality?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/History_of_the_Peloponnesian_War/Book_2#Pericles_Funeral_Oration\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ePericles\u0026#39;s Funeral Oration\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/133\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 133: Too Many Darn Radio Buttons\u003c/a\u003e (guest Jim Gibson)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Pasquale, \u003ca href=\"https://concurringopinions.com/archives/2016/02/is-eviction-as-a-service-the-hottest-new-legaltech-startup.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs Eviction-as-a-Service the Hottest New #LegalTech Trend?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRon Amadeo, \u003ca href=\"https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/06/google-duplex-is-calling-we-talk-to-the-revolutionary-but-limited-phone-ai/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTalking to Google Duplex: Google’s Human-Like Phone AI Feels Revolutionary\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Paul Gowder.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the rule of law, equality, and technology, with Paul Gowder.","date_published":"2018-07-21T10:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/4b6896a4-d864-435f-9eee-7063d5346f27.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":49508119,"duration_in_seconds":4830}]},{"id":"91cd1bce-f63c-4f5d-9e3b-25966c943aad","title":"Episode 174: Podcast of Record","url":"https://oralargument.org/174","content_text":"Just Joe and Christian on a double-album of an episode. Lots of nonsense and a smattering of sense, including: notaries public, international sport and boycotts and drugs, bears and snakes, the Deep South and weather, these days and conversation, a tiny, incomplete dip into the mailbag, the pronunciation of Argunauts, what we should do with our lives, law and neutrality, law as a substitute for war, 2 +  2 = 5 and right and wrong, hard and easy problems, freedom reasoning and the New Lochner, court packing, changing the constitution of the Supreme Court, religious tests for office and the nature of convictions about convictions.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAll about notaries public\nRebecca R. Ruiz and Michael Schwirtz, Russian Insider Says State-Run Doping Fueled Olympic Gold; the \"McLaren Report\" on Russian doping in Sochi\nStephen Herrero, Bear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance\nElla Morton, The Snake Catchers Who Handle Australia’s Most Venomous Home Invaders\nAbout the \"Deep South\"\nKatie Herzog, How Air-Conditioning Made America — and How It Could Break Us All\nChristian Turner, The Failures of Freedom\nOral Argument 134: Crossover (guests Dan Epps and Ian Samuel)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJust Joe and Christian on a double-album of an episode. Lots of nonsense and a smattering of sense, including: notaries public, international sport and boycotts and drugs, bears and snakes, the Deep South and weather, these days and conversation, a tiny, incomplete dip into the mailbag, the pronunciation of Argunauts, what we should do with our lives, law and neutrality, law as a substitute for war, 2 +  2 = 5 and right and wrong, hard and easy problems, freedom reasoning and the New Lochner, court packing, changing the constitution of the Supreme Court, religious tests for office and the nature of convictions about convictions.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAll about \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notary_public\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003enotaries public\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRebecca R. Ruiz and Michael Schwirtz, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/sports/russia-doping-sochi-olympics-2014.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRussian Insider Says State-Run Doping Fueled Olympic Gold\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; the \u003ca href=\"https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/20160718_ip_report_newfinal.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u0026quot;McLaren Report\u0026quot; on Russian doping in Sochi\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Herrero, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books/about/Bear_Attacks.html?id=dqRGDwAAQBAJ\u0026printsec=frontcover\u0026source=kp_read_button#v=onepage\u0026q\u0026f=false\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eElla Morton, \u003ca href=\"https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-snake-catchers-who-handle-australias-most-venomous-home-invaders\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Snake Catchers Who Handle Australia’s Most Venomous Home Invaders\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_South\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout the \u0026quot;Deep South\u0026quot;\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKatie Herzog, \u003ca href=\"https://grist.org/food/how-air-conditioning-made-america-and-how-it-could-break-us-all/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow Air-Conditioning Made America — and How It Could Break Us All\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"https://www.hydratext.com/blog/2012/2/4/the-failures-of-freedom.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Failures of Freedom\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/134\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 134: Crossover\u003c/a\u003e (guests Dan Epps and Ian Samuel)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian with nonsense and sense on bears and law.","date_published":"2018-07-07T17:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/91cd1bce-f63c-4f5d-9e3b-25966c943aad.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":80054624,"duration_in_seconds":7885}]},{"id":"1267178e-d91d-4afe-980b-4736c16affa3","title":"Episode 173: Faithful Execution","url":"https://oralargument.org/173","content_text":"The Constitution requires the President to \"take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.\" Phrases like \"faithful execution\" are hardly unique to the constitutional setting. Rather, they have long been signals of both public and private relationships of trust and confidence, relationships that give rise to \"fiduciary duties\" in law. Ethan Leib and Jed Shugerman argue that the President has fiduciary duties and that these constrain his or her power to pardon and otherwise to act.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nEthan Leib’s faculty profile and academic writing\nJed Shugerman’s faculty profile, academic writing, and blog\nEthan Leib and Jed Shugerman, Fiduciary Constitutionalism and ‘Faithful Execution’: Two Legal Conclusions\nGary Lawson and Guy Seidman, \"A Great Power of Attorney:\" Understanding the Fiduciary Constitution\nEric Muller, Even More on Self-Pardons (containing links to Eric's original post and to a critique by Michael McConnell)\nSpecial Guests: Ethan Leib and Jed Shugerman.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThe Constitution requires the President to \u0026quot;take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.\u0026quot; Phrases like \u0026quot;faithful execution\u0026quot; are hardly unique to the constitutional setting. Rather, they have long been signals of both public and private relationships of trust and confidence, relationships that give rise to \u0026quot;fiduciary duties\u0026quot; in law. Ethan Leib and Jed Shugerman argue that the President has fiduciary duties and that these constrain his or her power to pardon and otherwise to act.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEthan Leib’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.fordham.edu/info/23159/ethan_j_leib\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=344006\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eacademic writing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJed Shugerman’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.fordham.edu/info/23180/jed_shugerman\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=625422\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eacademic writing\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://shugerblog.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eblog\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEthan Leib and Jed Shugerman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3177968\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFiduciary Constitutionalism and ‘Faithful Execution’: Two Legal Conclusions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGary Lawson and Guy Seidman, \u003ca href=\"https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1nxqpnj\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e\u0026quot;A Great Power of Attorney:\u0026quot; Understanding the Fiduciary Constitution\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEric Muller, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2018/06/more-on-self-pardons.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEven More on Self-Pardons\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (containing links to Eric\u0026#39;s original post and to a critique by Michael McConnell)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guests: Ethan Leib and Jed Shugerman.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the President's fiduciary duties, with Ethan Leib and Jed Shugerman.","date_published":"2018-06-29T12:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/1267178e-d91d-4afe-980b-4736c16affa3.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":58819518,"duration_in_seconds":5761}]},{"id":"2d1a99b7-efa8-48b8-beab-ddbf9ddbd08e","title":"Episode 172: Apex Criminality","url":"https://oralargument.org/172","content_text":"If we were starting from scratch, as our guest Aziz Huq puts it, how should our constitution deal with criminality by high government officials? We talk about the constitutional designer's perspective, the criminalization of politics, and the politicization of the rule of law.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAziz Huq’s faculty profile and academic writing\nAziz Huq, Legal or Political Checks on Apex Criminality: An Essay on Constitutional Design\nThomas Ginsburg, Zachary Elkins, and James Melton, The Lifespan of Written Constitutions; Tom Ginsburg and James Melton, Does the Constitutional Amendment Rule Matter at All? Amendment Cultures and the Challenges of Measuring Amendment Difficulty; Aziz Huq, The Function of Article V\nAziz Huq, Hippocratic Constitutional Design in Assessing Constitutional Performance\nTom Ginsburg and Aziz Huq, How to Save a Constitutional Democracy; Aziz Huq and Tom Ginsburg, How to Lose a Constitutional Democracy (see also the version of these ideas in Tom and Aziz's article for Vox)\nThe Comparative Constitutions Project\nSpecial Guest: Aziz Huq.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIf we were starting from scratch, as our guest Aziz Huq puts it, how should our constitution deal with criminality by high government officials? We talk about the constitutional designer\u0026#39;s perspective, the criminalization of politics, and the politicization of the rule of law.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAziz Huq’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/huq\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1266817\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eacademic writing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAziz Huq, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3185835\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal or Political Checks on Apex Criminality: An Essay on Constitutional Design\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThomas Ginsburg, Zachary Elkins, and James Melton, \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/lifespan-written-constitutions\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Lifespan of Written Constitutions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Tom Ginsburg and James Melton, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2432520\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDoes the Constitutional Amendment Rule Matter at All? Amendment Cultures and the Challenges of Measuring Amendment Difficulty\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Aziz Huq, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2406089\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Function of Article V\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAziz Huq, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=pg3PDAAAQBAJ\u0026lpg=PA64\u0026pg=PA39#v=onepage\u0026q\u0026f=false\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHippocratic Constitutional Design\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e in \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=pg3PDAAAQBAJ\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAssessing Constitutional Performance\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTom Ginsburg and Aziz Huq, \u003ca href=\"http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/H/bo28381225.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow to Save a Constitutional Democracy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Aziz Huq and Tom Ginsburg, \u003ca href=\"https://www.uclalawreview.org/lose-constitutional-democracy/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow to Lose a Constitutional Democracy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see also the version of these ideas in Tom and Aziz\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/2/21/14664568/lose-constitutional-democracy-autocracy-trump-authoritarian\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003earticle for Vox\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://comparativeconstitutionsproject.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Comparative Constitutions Project\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Aziz Huq.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On constitutional design concerning crimes of apex officials, with Aziz Huq.","date_published":"2018-06-22T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/2d1a99b7-efa8-48b8-beab-ddbf9ddbd08e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":46462515,"duration_in_seconds":4525}]},{"id":"2ff509e5-9a6f-49ae-add3-91930cacb08e","title":"Episode 171: Garbage Gut","url":"https://oralargument.org/171","content_text":"Steve Vladeck rejoins us on ... lots of things. Christian returns from a conference abroad, french fries, standing, Iceland, patents and trial by battle, Trump, pronunciation in the Supreme Court and in various American cities, thunder. And then, (at 26:41 if you want to skip to the more serious part) a Dalmazzi update and general speculation about the authorship of pending cases and what's going on in the building. Will the big cases this term - travel ban, redistricting - fizzle like Masterpiece? Are there lessons or opportunities for reform of the Court's jurisdiction, procedures, and politics (46:21)? Then we discuss the new DOJ guidance on asylum, released while we were recording, and the immigration and general political crisis we now face (1:10:42).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSteve Vladeck’s faculty profile and academic writing\nThe National Security Law Podcast\nSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eSteve Vladeck rejoins us on ... lots of things. Christian returns from a conference abroad, french fries, standing, Iceland, patents and trial by battle, Trump, pronunciation in the Supreme Court and in various American cities, thunder. And then, (at 26:41 if you want to skip to the more serious part) a \u003cem\u003eDalmazzi\u003c/em\u003e update and general speculation about the authorship of pending cases and what\u0026#39;s going on in the building. Will the big cases this term - travel ban, redistricting - fizzle like \u003cem\u003eMasterpiece\u003c/em\u003e? Are there lessons or opportunities for reform of the Court\u0026#39;s jurisdiction, procedures, and politics (46:21)? Then we discuss the new DOJ guidance on asylum, released while we were recording, and the immigration and general political crisis we now face (1:10:42).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/stephen-i-vladeck\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=362455\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eacademic writing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.nationalsecuritylawpodcast.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe National Security Law Podcast\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the Supreme Court at this moment, with Steve Vladeck.","date_published":"2018-06-12T08:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/2ff509e5-9a6f-49ae-add3-91930cacb08e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":65714449,"duration_in_seconds":6451}]},{"id":"6d30bc02-d8a4-46be-82db-ec0e08b17c0e","title":"Episode 170: The Starters","url":"https://oralargument.org/170","content_text":"We talk with Charles Barzun about what it means to be a legal pragmatist. But first we start with the ending and then talk John Hodgman, the F words (Framers and Founders), the old 2x debate, and finally (at 13:31) about legal pragmatism and its many senses. We connect the topic to interpretation, ethics, the age of our legal asteroid, families, infidelity, rupture, continuity, Justice Souter, quietism agonistes, and more.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nCharles Barzun’s faculty profile and writing\nCharles Barzun, Three Forms of Legal Pragmatism\nAbout Shane Carruth, director of Primer and Upstream Color\nJudge John Hodgman and John Hodgman, Vacationland\nBrian Tamanaha, A Realistic Theory of Law\nCharles Barzun, Inside/Out: Beyond the Internal/External Distinction in Legal Scholarship\nGuy Kahane, Evolutionary Debunking Arguments\nCharles Barzun, Justice Souter’s Common Law\nOral Argument 146: Somehow in the Middle (with Charles discussing Justice Souter)\nSpecial Guest: Charles Barzun.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk with Charles Barzun about what it means to be a legal pragmatist. But first we start with the ending and then talk John Hodgman, the F words (Framers and Founders), the old 2x debate, and finally (at 13:31) about legal pragmatism and its many senses. We connect the topic to interpretation, ethics, the age of our legal asteroid, families, infidelity, rupture, continuity, Justice Souter, quietism agonistes, and more.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Barzun’s \u003ca href=\"https://content.law.virginia.edu/faculty/profile/clb6x/1144315\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=546584\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Barzun, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3178155\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThree Forms of Legal Pragmatism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Carruth\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eShane Carruth\u003c/a\u003e, director of \u003cem\u003ePrimer\u003c/em\u003e and \u003cem\u003eUpstream Color\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.johnhodgman.com/JJHO\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eJudge John Hodgman\u003c/a\u003e and John Hodgman, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Vacationland-True-Stories-Painful-Beaches/dp/B074F3CWXZ/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVacationland\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrian Tamanaha, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Social-Legal-Theory-Modern-Transformation/dp/1316638510\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Realistic Theory of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Barzun, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2507260\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInside/Out: Beyond the Internal/External Distinction in Legal Scholarship\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGuy Kahane, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3175808/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEvolutionary Debunking Arguments\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Barzun, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3035402\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJustice Souter’s Common Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/146\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 146: Somehow in the Middle\u003c/a\u003e (with Charles discussing Justice Souter)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Charles Barzun.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On legal pragmatism, with Charles Barzun.","date_published":"2018-05-27T08:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/6d30bc02-d8a4-46be-82db-ec0e08b17c0e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":59344988,"duration_in_seconds":5814}]},{"id":"15d1df44-fb3e-4c46-a088-b75fe3a59fbe","title":"Episode 169: Terrible Enough for Two Weeks","url":"https://oralargument.org/169","content_text":"Back with a casual conversation about exams, faculties and their politics, and other random things.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\nNone.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eBack with a casual conversation about exams, faculties and their politics, and other random things.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eNone.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian on exams and other things.","date_published":"2018-05-11T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/15d1df44-fb3e-4c46-a088-b75fe3a59fbe.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":52733695,"duration_in_seconds":5153}]},{"id":"0db5e304-6cfa-42eb-919e-9a47e67ce065","title":"Episode 168: Galaxy-Sized Diamond","url":"https://oralargument.org/168","content_text":"Do you believe that once upon a time, before the rise of the administrative state, our legislature mainly legislated, our executive just carried out laws, and judges resolved individual disputes? Prepare to have your mind blown, as Maggie McKinley explains the central and evolving role that individual petitions for redress before Congress played from before the dawn of the Republic until the 1940s. She argues that our participation in government rather than formal, institutional separation has been the historical guarantor of democratic legitimacy.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMaggie McKinley's faculty profile and writing\nMaggie McKinley, Petitioning and the Making of the Administrative State\nMaggie McKinley, Lobbying and the Petition Clause\nSonja West, First Amendment Neighbors\nOral Argument 1: Send Joe to Prison (guest Sonja West)\nSpecial Guest: Maggie McKinley.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eDo you believe that once upon a time, before the rise of the administrative state, our legislature mainly legislated, our executive just carried out laws, and judges resolved individual disputes? Prepare to have your mind blown, as Maggie McKinley explains the central and evolving role that individual petitions for redress before Congress played from before the dawn of the Republic until the 1940s. She argues that our participation in government rather than formal, institutional separation has been the historical guarantor of democratic legitimacy.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMaggie McKinley\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.upenn.edu/cf/faculty/mmckinle/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1646988\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMaggie McKinley, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3150671\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePetitioning and the Making of the Administrative State\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMaggie McKinley, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2762012\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLobbying and the Petition Clause\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSonja West, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2035\u0026context=fac_artchop\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFirst Amendment Neighbors\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/1\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 1: Send Joe to Prison\u003c/a\u003e (guest Sonja West)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Maggie McKinley.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the shockingly central role of petitioning Congress, with Maggie McKinley.","date_published":"2018-04-21T10:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/0db5e304-6cfa-42eb-919e-9a47e67ce065.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":51026400,"duration_in_seconds":4982}]},{"id":"287a20cc-1b49-4577-907e-a5cc174d45c8","title":"Episode 167: Fingerprint","url":"https://oralargument.org/167","content_text":"A spur of the moment episode in which we discuss streaming music, public opinion, interpretation and precedent, war and peace, the legality of airstrikes, and the survival of our species.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nNone!\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eA spur of the moment episode in which we discuss streaming music, public opinion, interpretation and precedent, war and peace, the legality of airstrikes, and the survival of our species.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNone!\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian, from the mezzanine of world headquarters. ","date_published":"2018-04-15T21:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/287a20cc-1b49-4577-907e-a5cc174d45c8.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":42200825,"duration_in_seconds":4099}]},{"id":"29f73747-7d2d-46a9-ac86-d1664f4f87cd","title":"Episode 166: Brooding Omnipresence","url":"https://oralargument.org/166","content_text":"Do judges make law or find and apply it? Or both? Long ago, the realists seemingly won the argument that judging inevitably involves making law, not just identifying it. We talk with Stephen Sachs, who argues for the rehabilitation of the possibility that judges acting in good faith can indeed find the law. Will Stephen and Joe clash over what this means for Erie? You'll just have to listen to find out.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nStephen Sachs' faculty profile and writing\nStephen Sachs, Finding Law\nErie Railroad Co. v. Tompkins\nYes, I said \"statistics,\" but I know it's Herbert Spencer, Social Statics\nFelix Cohen, Transcendental Nonsense and the Functional Approach\nOral Argument 28: A Wonderfule Catastrophe (the one on Erie)\nSpecial Guest: Stephen Sachs.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eDo judges make law or find and apply it? Or both? Long ago, the realists seemingly won the argument that judging inevitably involves making law, not just identifying it. We talk with Stephen Sachs, who argues for the rehabilitation of the possibility that judges acting in good faith can indeed find the law. Will Stephen and Joe clash over what this means for \u003cem\u003eErie\u003c/em\u003e? You\u0026#39;ll just have to listen to find out.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Sachs\u0026#39; \u003ca href=\"https://law.duke.edu/fac/sachs/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=532296\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Sachs, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3064443\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFinding Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4671607337309792720\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eErie Railroad Co. v. Tompkins\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eYes, I said \u0026quot;statistics,\u0026quot; but I know it\u0026#39;s Herbert Spencer, \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Statics\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSocial Statics\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFelix Cohen, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/1116300?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTranscendental Nonsense and the Functional Approach\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/28\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 28: A Wonderfule Catastrophe\u003c/a\u003e (the one on \u003cem\u003eErie\u003c/em\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Stephen Sachs.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On finding law, with Stephen Sachs.","date_published":"2018-04-01T10:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/29f73747-7d2d-46a9-ac86-d1664f4f87cd.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":56488215,"duration_in_seconds":5528}]},{"id":"6057a99e-13df-4803-ad07-7945ba677d40","title":"Episode 165: Raging Fire","url":"https://oralargument.org/165","content_text":"Late at night, mics dragged up by the fire, talking mailbag items on conversation, Banach spaces, mental models, the Facebook dumpster fire, and Christian's weird old tricks for managing your online world. Finally, Mr. Rogers and being better.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nLarry Alexander, Constrained by Precedent\nScott Hershovitz, Integrity and Stare Decisis\nAaron Glantz and Emmanuel Martinez, For People of Color, Banks Are Shutting the Door to Homeownership\nZhigang Wei, Hugh McDonald, and Christine Coumarelos, Fines: Are Disadvantaged People at a Disadvantage?\nBanach spaces\nChristian Turner, Models of Law\nLawerence Solum, On the Indeterminacy Crisis: Critiquing Critical Dogma\nRobert Cover, Violence and the Word\nBen Thompson, The Facebook Brand\nWill Oremus, The Real Scandal Isn’t What Cambridge Analytica Did\nOral Argument 72: The Guinea Pig Problem (guest Michelle Meyer)\nMatthew Yglesias, The Case Against Facebook\nNicholas Carlson, Well, These New Zuckerberg IMs Won't Help Facebook's Privacy Problems\nOral Argument 58: Obscurity Settings (guest Woody Hartzog)\nThe trailer for Won't You Be My Neighbor?\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eLate at night, mics dragged up by the fire, talking mailbag items on conversation, Banach spaces, mental models, the Facebook dumpster fire, and Christian\u0026#39;s weird old tricks for managing your online world. Finally, Mr. Rogers and being better.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLarry Alexander, \u003ca href=\"http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/scal63\u0026div=10\u0026id=\u0026page=\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eConstrained by Precedent\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Hershovitz, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=O3FCAgAAQBAJ\u0026lpg=PP1\u0026dq=Exploring%20Law%27s%20EmpireThe%20Jurisprudence%20of%20Ronald%20Dworkin%24%20Exploring%20Law%27s%20Empire%3A%20The%20Jurisprudence%20of%20Ronald%20Dworkin\u0026pg=PR16#v=onepage\u0026q\u0026f=false\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIntegrity and Stare Decisis\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAaron Glantz and Emmanuel Martinez, \u003ca href=\"https://www.revealnews.org/article/for-people-of-color-banks-are-shutting-the-door-to-homeownership/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFor People of Color, Banks Are Shutting the Door to Homeownership\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eZhigang Wei, Hugh McDonald, and Christine Coumarelos, \u003ca href=\"http://www.lawfoundation.net.au/ljf/app/\u0026id=D5D375991CE8E1B68525823A000641F4\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFines: Are Disadvantaged People at a Disadvantage?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach_space\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBanach spaces\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2835112\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eModels of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawerence Solum, \u003ca href=\"https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/facpub/1957/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOn the Indeterminacy Crisis: Critiquing Critical Dogma\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRobert Cover, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/fss_papers/2708/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eViolence and the Word\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBen Thompson, \u003ca href=\"https://stratechery.com/2018/the-facebook-brand/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Facebook Brand\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWill Oremus, \u003ca href=\"https://slate.com/technology/2018/03/the-real-scandal-isnt-cambridge-analytica-its-facebooks-whole-business-model.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Real Scandal Isn’t What Cambridge Analytica Did\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/72\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 72: The Guinea Pig Problem\u003c/a\u003e (guest Michelle Meyer)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew Yglesias, \u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/21/17144748/case-against-facebook\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Case Against Facebook\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNicholas Carlson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims-wont-help-facebooks-privacy-problems-2010-5\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWell, These New Zuckerberg IMs Won\u0026#39;t Help Facebook\u0026#39;s Privacy Problems\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/58\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 58: Obscurity Settings\u003c/a\u003e (guest Woody Hartzog)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://kottke.org/18/03/the-trailer-for-wont-you-be-my-neighbor\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe trailer for \u003cem\u003eWon\u0026#39;t You Be My Neighbor?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On conversation, mental models, Facebook, and Mr. Rogers.","date_published":"2018-03-24T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/6057a99e-13df-4803-ad07-7945ba677d40.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":58975860,"duration_in_seconds":5777}]},{"id":"06506849-2d4f-4f30-ac3c-6b1bd4a1dfac","title":"Episode 164: Post-Marks-Regime World","url":"https://oralargument.org/164","content_text":"What is the legal precedent following a decision of the Supreme Court that lacks a majority opinion? For a few decades, the meta-rule has been that such as case stands for the position of those justices \"who concurred in the judgments on the narrowest grounds.\" Or has it? And could it? Richard Re joins us to discuss the problems of the Marks rule, the meaning of precedent, and ultimately the nature of our law. This problem will be confronted in the Supreme Court in the coming weeks.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nRichard Re’s faculty profile and academic writing\nRe's Judicata\nRichard Re, Beyond the Marks Rule\nAdam Steinman, Non-Majority Opinions and Biconditional Rules\nMarks v. United States\nSCOTUSblog page for Hughes v. United States\nRichard's amicus brief in Hughes\nAro Mfg. Co. v. Convertible Top Replacement Co.: the 1961 decision and the 1964 decision\nJustice Lewis Powell's papers on Marks from the The Lewis Powell Supreme Court Case Files at Washington and Lee University School of Law\nSpecial Guest: Richard Re.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhat is the legal precedent following a decision of the Supreme Court that lacks a majority opinion? For a few decades, the meta-rule has been that such as case stands for the position of those justices \u0026quot;who concurred in the judgments on the narrowest grounds.\u0026quot; Or has it? And could it? Richard Re joins us to discuss the problems of the \u003cem\u003eMarks\u003c/em\u003e rule, the meaning of precedent, and ultimately the nature of our law. This problem will be confronted in the Supreme Court in the coming weeks.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Re’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.ucla.edu/faculty/faculty-profiles/richard-m-re/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=974617\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eacademic writing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://richardresjudicata.wordpress.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eRe\u0026#39;s Judicata\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Re, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3090620\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBeyond the\u003c/em\u003e Marks \u003cem\u003eRule\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdam Steinman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3123807\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNon-Majority Opinions and Biconditional Rules\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12064198172779556411\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMarks v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/hughes-v-united-states/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSCOTUSblog page for \u003cem\u003eHughes v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/17/17-155/33360/20180126134313770_17-155%20Re%20Amicus%20Brief.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eamicus brief in \u003cem\u003eHughes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cem\u003eAro Mfg. Co. v. Convertible Top Replacement Co.\u003c/em\u003e: \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14679629603309035961\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethe 1961 decision\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2231855974886805443\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethe 1964 decision\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://law2.wlu.edu/deptimages/powell%20archives/75-708_Marks_US.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eJustice Lewis Powell\u0026#39;s papers on \u003cem\u003eMarks\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e from the \u003ca href=\"http://law2.wlu.edu/powellarchives/page.asp?pageid=1279\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Lewis Powell Supreme Court Case Files\u003c/a\u003e at Washington and Lee University School of Law\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Richard Re.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the viability of finding narrowest grounds, with Richard Re.","date_published":"2018-03-10T16:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/06506849-2d4f-4f30-ac3c-6b1bd4a1dfac.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":50511762,"duration_in_seconds":4930}]},{"id":"931b3cb1-9f51-4161-b717-7fee0b7d8de7","title":"Episode 163: Woodshed","url":"https://oralargument.org/163","content_text":"We dive in to the mailbag and one other topic, discussing: nonsense, statutory interpretation and a rebuke to our prior discussion of it, the nature of podcasting, and public corruption by tweet. (No links this week.)","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe dive in to the mailbag and one other topic, discussing: nonsense, statutory interpretation and a rebuke to our prior discussion of it, the nature of podcasting, and public corruption by tweet. (No links this week.)\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian, into the mailbag and another topic.","date_published":"2018-03-05T19:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/931b3cb1-9f51-4161-b717-7fee0b7d8de7.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":62108456,"duration_in_seconds":6090}]},{"id":"88382ca8-97af-4b73-86ad-a189e2201057","title":"Episode 162: Wealth Gap (live at Georgia Law)","url":"https://oralargument.org/162","content_text":"Audiobooks, capital, banks, slavery, regulation, choice, racism, and the racial wealth gap. Mehrsa Baradaran joins the show for the fourth time to talk about her latest book. Recorded in front of a live audience at the University of Georgia School of Law.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMehrsa Baradaran’s faculty profile and academic writing\nMehrsa Baradaran, The Color of Money: Black Banks and the Racial Wealth Gap\nBarack Obama, The President's Role in Advancing Criminal Justice Reform\nTa-Nehisi Coates, We Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy\nEric Foner, Reconstruction Updated Edition: America's Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877 (see also Eric Foner, Why Reconstruction Matters (a brief but informative opinion essay))\nOral Argument 76: Brutality (guest Al Brophy)\nSendhil Mullainathan and Eldar Shafir, Scarcity: Why Having Too Little Means So Much\nMehrsa Baradaran, How the Other Half Banks: Exclusion, Exploitation, and the Threat to Democracy\nAlfred Brophy, Reparations: Pro and Con\nWilliam Darity, Jr. and Dania Frank, The Economics of Reparations\nJamelle Bouie and Rebecca Onion, Reconstruction (a podcast from Slate)\nSpecial Guest: Mehrsa Baradaran.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAudiobooks, capital, banks, slavery, regulation, choice, racism, and the racial wealth gap. Mehrsa Baradaran joins the show for the fourth time to talk about her latest book. Recorded in front of a live audience at the University of Georgia School of Law.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMehrsa Baradaran’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/mehrsa-baradaran\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1178148\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eacademic writing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMehrsa Baradaran, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Color-Money-Black-Racial-Wealth/dp/0674970950\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Color of Money: Black Banks and the Racial Wealth Gap\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBarack Obama, \u003ca href=\"http://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/811-866-Online-Rev-vf.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe President\u0026#39;s Role in Advancing Criminal Justice Reform\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTa-Nehisi Coates, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/We-Were-Eight-Years-Power/dp/0399590560\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWe Were Eight Years in Power: An American Tragedy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEric Foner, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Reconstruction-Updated-Unfinished-Revolution-1863-1877/dp/0062354515\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReconstruction Updated Edition: America\u0026#39;s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see also Eric Foner, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/29/opinion/sunday/why-reconstruction-matters.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Reconstruction Matters\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a brief but informative opinion essay))\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/76\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 76: Brutality\u003c/a\u003e (guest Al Brophy)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSendhil Mullainathan and Eldar Shafir, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.harvard.edu/sendhil/scarcity\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eScarcity: Why Having Too Little Means So Much\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMehrsa Baradaran, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/How-Other-Half-Banks-Exploitation/dp/B01MQZYGE8/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow the Other Half Banks: Exclusion, Exploitation, and the Threat to Democracy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlfred Brophy, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Reparations-Pro-Alfred-L-Brophy/dp/0195304071/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReparations: Pro and Con\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Darity, Jr. and Dania Frank, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/3132248\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Economics of Reparations\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJamelle Bouie and Rebecca Onion, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/slate_plus/reconstruction.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReconstruction\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a podcast from Slate)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Mehrsa Baradaran.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On black banking and the racial wealth gap, with Mehrsa Baradaran.","date_published":"2018-02-19T16:45:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/88382ca8-97af-4b73-86ad-a189e2201057.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":33680584,"duration_in_seconds":3247}]},{"id":"6b30a104-c1f1-45f2-acda-c5e9b8ca1c45","title":"Episode 161: Meta","url":"https://oralargument.org/161","content_text":"Scott Shapiro joins us to discuss how law relates to, well, everything. His article with David Plunkett argues that theorizing about the nature of law is a project to understand how talking and thinking about law fit into reality. But first, we talk with him about Twitter, writing, collaboration, Joe's innermost psyche, and more.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nScott Shapiro’s faculty profile and academic writing\nScott Shapiro, Legality\nOona Hathaway and Scott Shapiro, The Internationalists\nOral Argument 112: Quasi-Narrative (guest Simon Stern)\nScott Shapiro and David Plunkett, Law, Morality and Everything Else: General Jurisprudence as a Branch of Meta-Normative Inquiry\nSpecial Guest: Scott Shapiro.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eScott Shapiro joins us to discuss how law relates to, well, everything. His article with David Plunkett argues that theorizing about the nature of law is a project to understand how talking and thinking about law fit into reality. But first, we talk with him about Twitter, writing, collaboration, Joe\u0026#39;s innermost psyche, and more.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Shapiro’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.yale.edu/scott-j-shapiro\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=234075\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eacademic writing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Shapiro, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Legality-Scott-J-Shapiro/dp/0674725786\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegality\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOona Hathaway and Scott Shapiro, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Internationalists-Radical-Outlaw-Remade-World/dp/1501109863/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Internationalists\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/112\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 112: Quasi-Narrative\u003c/a\u003e (guest Simon Stern)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Shapiro and David Plunkett, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2964089\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaw, Morality and Everything Else: General Jurisprudence as a Branch of Meta-Normative Inquiry\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Scott Shapiro.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On general jurisprudence (and other things), with Scott Shapiro.","date_published":"2018-02-04T10:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/6b30a104-c1f1-45f2-acda-c5e9b8ca1c45.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":52734192,"duration_in_seconds":5153}]},{"id":"b632a9a3-8088-4d9d-bee5-b45985cabbb4","title":"Episode 160: In the Barrel","url":"https://oralargument.org/160","content_text":"Steve Vladeck rejoins us on the law of civilian-military separation, whether Marbury v. Madison was rightly decided, and how his recent oral argument before the Supreme Court went (spoiler: amazingly but weirdly). (Ignore Christian's use of the term \"basises\" (wtf?) and other misstatements and inanities ... you try recording ever week between classes....)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSteve Vladeck’s faculty profile and academic writing\nThe National Security Law Podcast 54: Family Ties or Family Matters?\nFirst Mondays OT2017 #12: False Idol (guest Steve Vladeck)\nSCOTUSblog page for Dalmazzi v. United States (including links to all the briefs and more)\nThe oral argument: Oyez version, SCOTUS downloads, and transcript \nOral Argument 137: Steve Vladeck Pincer Move (where we discussed Dalmazzi at the cert stage)\nBurns v. Wilson\nMarbury v. Madison\nWilliam Baude, Exciting Developments in Supreme Court Appellate Jurisdiction:\nSome Would Call It the Second Coming of Marbury v. Madison\nUnited States v. Coe\nex parte Bollman and Swartwout\nAkhil Amar, Marbury, Section 13, and the Original Jurisdiction of the Supreme Court\nLouise Weinberg, Our Marbury\nFelker v. Turpin; see also Oral Argument 84: Felker's Chickens\nUnited States v. Gray\nSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eSteve Vladeck rejoins us on the law of civilian-military separation, whether Marbury v. Madison was rightly decided, and how his recent oral argument before the Supreme Court went (spoiler: amazingly but weirdly). (Ignore Christian\u0026#39;s use of the term \u0026quot;basises\u0026quot; (wtf?) and other misstatements and inanities ... you try recording ever week between classes....)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/stephen-i-vladeck\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=362455\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eacademic writing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.nationalsecuritylawpodcast.com/ep-54-family-ties-or-family-matters/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe National Security Law Podcast 54: Family Ties or Family Matters?\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.firstmondays.fm/episodes/2018/1/22/ot2017-12-false-idol\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFirst Mondays OT2017 #12: False Idol\u003c/a\u003e (guest Steve Vladeck)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/dalmazzi-v-united-states/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSCOTUSblog page for \u003cem\u003eDalmazzi v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (including links to all the briefs and more)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe oral argument: \u003ca href=\"https://www.oyez.org/cases/2017/16-961\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOyez version\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2017/16-961\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSCOTUS downloads\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2017/16-961_08l1.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003etranscript\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/137\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 137: Steve Vladeck Pincer Move\u003c/a\u003e (where we discussed \u003cem\u003eDalmazzi\u003c/em\u003e at the cert stage)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13501152442303513103\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBurns v. Wilson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9834052745083343188\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMarbury v. Madison\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Baude, \u003ca href=\"http://reason.com/volokh/2018/01/08/exciting-developments-in-supreme-court-a\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eExciting Developments in Supreme Court Appellate Jurisdiction:\nSome Would Call It the Second Coming of\u003c/em\u003e Marbury v. Madison\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=18289973798213960260\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Coe\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=891096754227370578\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eex parte \u003cem\u003eBollman and Swartwout\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAkhil Amar, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2019\u0026context=fss_papers\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eMarbury, \u003cem\u003eSection 13, and the Original Jurisdiction of the Supreme Court\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLouise Weinberg, \u003ca href=\"https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/uploads/publication_files/ourmarburypub.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOur\u003c/em\u003e Marbury\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11980829158634315619\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFelker v. Turpin\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/84\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 84: Felker\u0026#39;s Chickens\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.armfor.uscourts.gov/newcaaf/opinions/2017OctTerm/170525.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Gray\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"With Steve Vladeck, on his Supreme Court argument in Dalmazzi.","date_published":"2018-01-27T14:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/b632a9a3-8088-4d9d-bee5-b45985cabbb4.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":39302322,"duration_in_seconds":3809}]},{"id":"ac26a87b-a823-4c4a-9e55-df6c7520676a","title":"Episode 159: Magical","url":"https://oralargument.org/159","content_text":"Live to tape, we discuss viewer mail, Tolkien, laptops, and (kind of) a couple of SCOTUS cases. \n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nFoundations of American Law (an undergraduate course created by Christian, featuring a textbook and companion podcast series with Christian and Joe)\nLegal Theory 101 (Christian's introductory course to legal philosophy, featuring a reading list (with links) and a companion podcast series)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eLive to tape, we discuss viewer mail, Tolkien, laptops, and (kind of) a couple of SCOTUS cases. \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.hydratext.com/foundations-beta/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFoundations of American Law\u003c/a\u003e (an undergraduate course created by Christian, featuring a textbook and companion podcast series with Christian and Joe)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.hydratext.com/legal-theory-101/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eLegal Theory 101\u003c/a\u003e (Christian\u0026#39;s introductory course to legal philosophy, featuring a reading list (with links) and a companion podcast series)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Joe and Christian on a few things.","date_published":"2018-01-21T19:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/ac26a87b-a823-4c4a-9e55-df6c7520676a.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37553616,"duration_in_seconds":4543}]},{"id":"9caa253b-8a06-4fa9-b386-939ec579913a","title":"Episode 158: Ethical Form of Life","url":"https://oralargument.org/158","content_text":"We find ourselves in a moment of untruth. Our guest, Brad Wendel, talks with us about political and legal truth and their relation to morality and social roles. \n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nBrad Wendel's faculty profile and writing\nW. Bradley Wendel, Truthfulness as an Ethical Form of Life\nHarry Frankfurt, On Bullshit\nBernard Williams, Saint-Just's Illusion (also here)\nKleindienst v. Mandel\nStephen Colbert, The Word: Truthiness (video from the first episode of the Colbert Report, and it's still unbelievably great)\nInternational Refugee Assistance Project v. Trump (4th Circuit en banc)\nNinth Circuit's denial of en banc consideration in Washington v. Trump (containing Judge Bybee's dissent)\nState Bar of Michigan, Informal Ethics Opinion CI-1164\nBernard Williams, Truth and Truthfulness\nCynthia Farina, et al., Rulemaking in 140 Characters or Less:\nSocial Networking and Public Participation in Rulemaking\nWhole Woman's Health v. Hellerstedt\nW. Bradley Wendel, Sally Yates, Ronald Dworkin, and the Best View of the Law\nFireside\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe find ourselves in a moment of untruth. Our guest, Brad Wendel, talks with us about political and legal truth and their relation to morality and social roles. \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrad Wendel\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/faculty/bio_bradley_wendel.cfm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=247191\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eW. Bradley Wendel, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3072303\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTruthfulness as an Ethical Form of Life\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHarry Frankfurt, \u003ca href=\"http://stoa.org.uk/topics/bullshit/pdf/on-bullshit.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOn Bullshit\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBernard Williams, \u003ca href=\"https://www.lrb.co.uk/v13/n16/bernard-williams/saint-justs-illusion-interpretation-and-the-powers-of-philosophy\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSaint-Just\u0026#39;s Illusion\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (also \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=AHol9VbeLUYC\u0026pg=PA135\u0026lpg=PA135\u0026dq=%22saint-just%27s+illusion%22\u0026source=bl\u0026ots=nFGDaDyVqd\u0026sig=fQzZzCAnV4GBPnyhGYZ35DMopGc\u0026hl=en\u0026sa=X\u0026ved=0ahUKEwjn1vK-q9XYAhUq2IMKHTNoAG4Q6AEIQzAF#v=onepage\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2384957718526063733\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKleindienst v. Mandel\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Colbert, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cc.com/video-clips/63ite2/the-colbert-report-the-word---truthiness\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Word: Truthiness\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (video from the first episode of the Colbert Report, and it\u0026#39;s still unbelievably great)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2110961142700228731\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInternational Refugee Assistance Project v. Trump\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (4th Circuit en banc)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNinth Circuit\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7212509001957517972\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003edenial of en banc consideration in \u003cem\u003eWashington v. Trump\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (containing Judge Bybee\u0026#39;s dissent)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eState Bar of Michigan, \u003ca href=\"http://www.michbar.org/opinions/ethics/numbered_opinions/OpinionID=193\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInformal Ethics Opinion CI-1164\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBernard Williams, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books/about/Truth_Truthfulness.html?id=2iaFFE54fYkC\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTruth and Truthfulness\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCynthia Farina, et al., \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1702501\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRulemaking in 140 Characters or Less:\nSocial Networking and Public Participation in Rulemaking\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12719084930434459940\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhole Woman\u0026#39;s Health v. Hellerstedt\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eW. Bradley Wendel, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2927113\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSally Yates, Ronald Dworkin, and the Best View of the Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://fireside.fm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFireside\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On truth and roles, with Brad Wendel.","date_published":"2018-01-13T17:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/9caa253b-8a06-4fa9-b386-939ec579913a.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":47192582,"duration_in_seconds":4598}]},{"id":"dd964db4-2b15-4612-ac3c-9118d2c413a9","title":"Episode 157: Blocked","url":"https://oralargument.org/157","content_text":"Holiday nonsense show part 2: on the upcoming Supreme Court arguments Dalmazzi v. United States, millennials and the punishing U.S. economic system, the presidency and the popular vote, and expertise and Twitter.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSCOTUSblog page for Dalmazzi v. United States\nIn That Case podcast\nMichael Hobbes, FML: Why Millennials Are Facing the Scariest Financial Future of Any Generation Since the Great Depression\nCarissa Byrne Hessick, Towards a Series of Academic Norms for #Lawprof Twitter\nOral Argument 89: Adequacy (guest Josh Weishart)\nOral Argument 42: Shotgun Aphasia (guest Orin Kerr)\nHow to Block Accounts on Twitter\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eHoliday nonsense show part 2: on the upcoming Supreme Court arguments Dalmazzi v. United States, millennials and the punishing U.S. economic system, the presidency and the popular vote, and expertise and Twitter.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/dalmazzi-v-united-states/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSCOTUSblog page for \u003cem\u003eDalmazzi v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://inthatcasepodcast.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eIn That Case podcast\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Hobbes, \u003ca href=\"http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/poor-millennials/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFML: Why Millennials Are Facing the Scariest Financial Future of Any Generation Since the Great Depression\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCarissa Byrne Hessick, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3095014\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTowards a Series of Academic Norms for #Lawprof Twitter\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/89\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 89: Adequacy\u003c/a\u003e (guest Josh Weishart)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/42\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 42: Shotgun Aphasia\u003c/a\u003e (guest Orin Kerr)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/blocking-and-unblocking-accounts\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eHow to Block Accounts on Twitter\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian, going through the mailbag and other items.","date_published":"2018-01-07T18:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/dd964db4-2b15-4612-ac3c-9118d2c413a9.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":53232841,"duration_in_seconds":5202}]},{"id":"913035c7-ee1d-40c1-bb5c-1ce3a06dc636","title":"Episode 156: Cheap Shot from the Cheap Seats","url":"https://oralargument.org/156","content_text":"Holiday nonsense show part 1: on compressors, the UFOs, nominations of trial judges without trial experience, feuds, listener Brian's question about our evolving balance of optimism and pessimism, listener Andrew's pointing out the public nudity and sex discrimination case Tagami v. City of Chicago, listener Joel's new podcast, the self, our show, conversation and other minds and double escape, humility, art and wilderness.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nThe link to access all topics discussed on this week's show\nIn That Case podcast\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eHoliday nonsense show part 1: on compressors, the UFOs, nominations of trial judges without trial experience, feuds, listener Brian\u0026#39;s question about our evolving balance of optimism and pessimism, listener Andrew\u0026#39;s pointing out the public nudity and sex discrimination case Tagami v. City of Chicago, listener Joel\u0026#39;s new podcast, the self, our show, conversation and other minds and double escape, humility, art and wilderness.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://duckduckgo.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe link to access all topics discussed on this week\u0026#39;s show\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://inthatcasepodcast.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eIn That Case podcast\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian on various topics.","date_published":"2017-12-24T09:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/913035c7-ee1d-40c1-bb5c-1ce3a06dc636.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45754814,"duration_in_seconds":4455}]},{"id":"dfa249ec-a426-4e1a-a233-927a0f9e12ce","title":"Episode 155: Presidential Utterance","url":"https://oralargument.org/155","content_text":"How do presidents affect the law when they speak? Should courts consider what they say, defer to what they say, and find governmental intentions in what they say? What if a president says one thing, perhaps improvising during a speech, and an official communication of an agency, the Justice Department, or the White House says another? Kate Shaw joins us to talk about her theory that generally (but not always) courts should ignore presidential statements that are not consciously intended to stake out a legal position. Obviously, there's an 800-pound, tweeting gorilla in the corner of the room. \n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nKate Shaw's faculty profile and writing\nKate Shaw, Beyond the Bully Pulpit:  Presidential Speech in the Courts\nJeffrey Tulis, The Rhetorical Presidency\nPeter Strauss, Overseer or \"The Decider\"? The President in Administrative Law\nElena Kagan, Presidential Administration\nOral argument in the Fourth Circuit in International Refugee Assistance Project v. Trump (Muslim ban 3.0) \nKathryn Watts, Controlling Presidential Control\nJack Goldsmith, Will Donald Trump Destroy the Presidency?\nSpecial Guest: Kate Shaw.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eHow do presidents affect the law when they speak? Should courts consider what they say, defer to what they say, and find governmental intentions in what they say? What if a president says one thing, perhaps improvising during a speech, and an official communication of an agency, the Justice Department, or the White House says another? Kate Shaw joins us to talk about her theory that generally (but not always) courts should ignore presidential statements that are not consciously intended to stake out a legal position. Obviously, there\u0026#39;s an 800-pound, tweeting gorilla in the corner of the room. \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKate Shaw\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://cardozo.yu.edu/directory/kate-shaw\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=2042971\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKate Shaw, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2981475\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBeyond the Bully Pulpit:  Presidential Speech in the Courts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeffrey Tulis, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Rhetorical_Presidency.html?id=TcojDwAAQBAJ\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Rhetorical Presidency\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePeter Strauss, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=949649\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOverseer or \u0026quot;The Decider\u0026quot;? The President in Administrative Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eElena Kagan, \u003ca href=\"https://harvardlawreview.org/2010/05/presidential-administration/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePresidential Administration\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.c-span.org/video/?437105-1/fourth-circuit-hears-oral-argument-revised-travel-ban-audio\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral argument in the Fourth Circuit in \u003cem\u003eInternational Refugee Assistance Project v. Trump\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Muslim ban 3.0) \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKathryn Watts, \u003ca href=\"https://repository.law.umich.edu/mlr/vol114/iss5/1/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eControlling Presidential Control\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJack Goldsmith, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/will-donald-trump-destroy-the-presidency/537921/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWill Donald Trump Destroy the Presidency?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Kate Shaw.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the legal effect of presidential speech, with Kate Shaw.","date_published":"2017-12-17T10:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/dfa249ec-a426-4e1a-a233-927a0f9e12ce.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48772254,"duration_in_seconds":4756}]},{"id":"82c37464-e5ca-444c-8439-0470d66fa62b","title":"Episode 154: Third Place","url":"https://oralargument.org/154","content_text":"Sara Schindler returns to the show to talk about the phenomenon and problems of privately owned, publicly open spaces. We start, though, with a brief conversation about art and sexism. Then (12:23), we turn to Sarah's paper. What are POPOS? How are they created? Are they parks on the cheap or amenities of private businesses? Whether it's Balinese chanting in a corporate atrium, places to fly kites, or a spot to meet a new friend, we all need our third places.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSarah Schindler's faculty profile and writing\nSarah Schindler, The 'Publicization' of Private Space\nOral Argument 54: Folly Bridges (an episode we did with Sarah about her paper, Architectural Exclusion: Discrimination and Segregation Through Physical Design of the Built Environment)\nOral Argument 63: A Struggle with Every Single One (guest Jessica Owley)\nSpecial Guest: Sarah Schindler.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eSara Schindler returns to the show to talk about the phenomenon and problems of privately owned, publicly open spaces. We start, though, with a brief conversation about art and sexism. Then (12:23), we turn to Sarah\u0026#39;s paper. What are POPOS? How are they created? Are they parks on the cheap or amenities of private businesses? Whether it\u0026#39;s Balinese chanting in a corporate atrium, places to fly kites, or a spot to meet a new friend, we all need our third places.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Schindler\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"http://mainelaw.maine.edu/faculty-member/sarah-schindler/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1099143\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Schindler, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2960320\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe \u0026#39;Publicization\u0026#39; of Private Space\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/59\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 54: Folly Bridges\u003c/a\u003e (an episode we did with Sarah about her paper, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2595294\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eArchitectural Exclusion: Discrimination and Segregation Through Physical Design of the Built Environment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/63\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 63: A Struggle with Every Single One\u003c/a\u003e (guest Jessica Owley)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Sarah Schindler.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On privately owned, public spaces, with Sarah Schindler.","date_published":"2017-12-03T13:45:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/82c37464-e5ca-444c-8439-0470d66fa62b.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":43440102,"duration_in_seconds":4223}]},{"id":"01894a40-71bf-4bae-8065-a0f65edc0ea1","title":"Episode 153: Shall Be Reduced","url":"https://oralargument.org/153","content_text":"Constitutional and election law expert Franita Tolson joins us to talk about a little-known section of one of the most well-known parts of the Constitution. The Fourteenth Amendment grants rights enforceable against states, not just against the federal government. And it gives Congress a role in enforcing those rights. But did you know that it also provides an apparently severe and mandatory remedy for abridgments by states of the right to vote? You will.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nFranita Tolson's faculty profile and writing\nFranita Tolson, What is Abridgment?: A Critique of Two Section Twos\nLuther v. Borden (disclaiming power under the Constitution to identify which of two rival factions was the government of Rhode Island); see also Erwin Chemerinsky, Cases Under the Guarantee Clause Should Be Justiciable\nSharrow v. Brown at footnote 9, for an example of a court wrestling with the seemingly mandatory language of section two's reduction formula\nShelby County v. Holder\nSpecial Guest: Franita Tolson.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eConstitutional and election law expert Franita Tolson joins us to talk about a little-known section of one of the most well-known parts of the Constitution. The Fourteenth Amendment grants rights enforceable against states, not just against the federal government. And it gives Congress a role in enforcing those rights. But did you know that it also provides an apparently severe and mandatory remedy for abridgments by states of the right to vote? You will.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFranita Tolson\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"http://gould.usc.edu/faculty/?id=73521\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=737594\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFranita Tolson, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2644320\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat is Abridgment?: A Critique of Two Section Twos\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7884047486442944178\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLuther v. Borden\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (disclaiming power under the Constitution to identify which of two rival factions was the government of Rhode Island); see also Erwin Chemerinsky, \u003ca href=\"https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/\u0026httpsredir=1\u0026article=1696\u0026context=faculty_scholarship\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCases Under the Guarantee Clause Should Be Justiciable\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13060533703812147352\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSharrow v. Brown\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e at footnote 9, for an example of a court wrestling with the seemingly mandatory language of section two\u0026#39;s reduction formula\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4053797526279899410\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShelby County v. Holder\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Franita Tolson.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On section 2 of the 14th Amendment, with Franita Tolson.","date_published":"2017-11-19T09:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/01894a40-71bf-4bae-8065-a0f65edc0ea1.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":47980985,"duration_in_seconds":4677}]},{"id":"22b44775-d663-4151-94ec-1d3d238d9627","title":"Episode 152: Replication","url":"https://oralargument.org/152","content_text":"We talk with Greg Klass about the use of recent empirical studies to aid in the restatement of the law of consumer contracts - the one-sided, unread \"agreements\" that are ubiquitous in modern life. The conversation covers the purpose of restatements, the methodology of empirical legal scholarship, and more.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nGreg Klass's faculty profile and writing\nGreg Klass, A Critical Assessment of the Empiricism in the Restatement of Consumer Contract Law\nOral Argument 133: Too Many Darn Radio Buttons (guest Jim Gibson)\nJohn Gruber, Apple to Release Software Update to Solve iOS 11 Issue When Typing the Letter \"I\"\nAbout the ALI's draft Restatement of Consumer Contracts\nOren Bar-Gill, Omri Ben-Shahar, and Florencia Marotta-Wurgler, Searching for the Common Law: The Quantitative Approach of the Restatement of Consumer Contracts\nFlorencia Marotta-Wurgler, Does Contract Disclosure Matter?; Yannis Bakos, Florencia Marotta-Wurgler, David Trossen, Does Anyone Read the Fine Print? Consumer Attention to Standard Form Contracts \nArthur Leff, Contract as Thing\nWilliam Baude, Adam Chilton, and Anup Malani, Making Doctrinal Work More Rigorous: Lessons from Systematic Reviews\nGregory Klass and Kathryn Zeiler, Against Endowment Theory: Experimental Economics and Legal Scholarship\nSpecial Guest: Greg Klass.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk with Greg Klass about the use of recent empirical studies to aid in the restatement of the law of consumer contracts - the one-sided, unread \u0026quot;agreements\u0026quot; that are ubiquitous in modern life. The conversation covers the purpose of restatements, the methodology of empirical legal scholarship, and more.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGreg Klass\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/klass-gregory.cfm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=363445\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGreg Klass, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3001212\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Critical Assessment of the Empiricism in the Restatement of Consumer Contract Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/133\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 133: Too Many Darn Radio Buttons\u003c/a\u003e (guest Jim Gibson)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Gruber, \u003ca href=\"https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/11/07/ios-11-i\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eApple to Release Software Update to Solve iOS 11 Issue When Typing the Letter \u0026quot;I\u0026quot;\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.thealiadviser.org/consumer-contracts/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout the ALI\u0026#39;s draft Restatement of Consumer Contracts\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOren Bar-Gill, Omri Ben-Shahar, and Florencia Marotta-Wurgler, \u003ca href=\"http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/uclrev/vol84/iss1/2/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSearching for the Common Law: The Quantitative Approach of the Restatement of Consumer Contracts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFlorencia Marotta-Wurgler, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2736521\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDoes Contract Disclosure Matter?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Yannis Bakos, Florencia Marotta-Wurgler, David Trossen, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1443256\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDoes Anyone Read the Fine Print? Consumer Attention to Standard Form Contracts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eArthur Leff, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/fss_papers/2827/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eContract as Thing\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Baude, Adam Chilton, and Anup Malani, \u003ca href=\"http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/public_law_and_legal_theory/622/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMaking Doctrinal Work More Rigorous: Lessons from Systematic Reviews\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGregory Klass and Kathryn Zeiler, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2224105\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAgainst Endowment Theory: Experimental Economics and Legal Scholarship\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Greg Klass.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On empirics, Restatements, and consumer contracts, with Greg Klass.","date_published":"2017-11-12T12:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/22b44775-d663-4151-94ec-1d3d238d9627.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":58393910,"duration_in_seconds":5719}]},{"id":"d4278120-ea94-4925-9a57-d697650fadde","title":"Episode 151: Hungry Ghosts","url":"https://oralargument.org/151","content_text":"We talk with Dave Fagundes about sharing, abandoning, and property law's role in promoting happiness. Topics include the usual nonsense, notions of happiness, consumption and acquisition, charity, and home ownership.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDave Fagundes's faculty profile and writing\nDavid Fagundes, Why Less Property Is More: Inclusion, Dispossession, and Subjective Well-Being\nAbout Life Is Beautiful\nAbout Marie Kondo\nDavid Fagundes, Buying Happiness: Property, Acquisition, and Subjective Well-Being\nRoger Crisp's entry on Well-Being in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (including discussions of Bentham's notion and preferentist accounts)\nAbout Mr. Burns, character from The Simpsons\nRebecca Solnit, The Loneliness of Donald Trump\nJuliet Schor and William Attwood-Charles, The Sharing Economy: Labor, Inequality and Sociability on For-Profit Platforms\nDavid Fagundes, The Social Norms of Waiting in Line\nOral Argument 150: Shutting Down Hal (guest Christina Mulligan); Christina Mulligan, Revenge Against Robots\nLior Strahilevitz, The Right to Abandon\nEduardo Peñalver, The Illusory Right to Abandon\nAaron Perzanowski and Jason Schultz, The End of Ownership\nJoshua Fairfield, Owned: Property, Privacy, and the New Digital Serfdom\nSpecial Guest: Dave Fagundes.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk with Dave Fagundes about sharing, abandoning, and property law\u0026#39;s role in promoting happiness. Topics include the usual nonsense, notions of happiness, consumption and acquisition, charity, and home ownership.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDave Fagundes\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uh.edu/faculty/print.asp?PID=5033\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=522757\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Fagundes, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3014320\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Less Property Is More: Inclusion, Dispossession, and Subjective Well-Being\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Is_Beautiful\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout \u003cem\u003eLife Is Beautiful\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Kondo\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout Marie Kondo\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Fagundes, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2733617\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBuying Happiness: Property, Acquisition, and Subjective Well-Being\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRoger Crisp\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/well-being/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eentry on Well-Being\u003c/a\u003e in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (including discussions of Bentham\u0026#39;s notion and preferentist accounts)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Burns\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout Mr. Burns\u003c/a\u003e, character from \u003cem\u003eThe Simpsons\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRebecca Solnit, \u003ca href=\"http://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-the-loneliness-of-donald-trump/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Loneliness of Donald Trump\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJuliet Schor and William Attwood-Charles, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/schools/cas_sites/sociology/pdf/SocCompass%20Sharing%20Economy%20v3.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Sharing Economy: Labor, Inequality and Sociability on For-Profit Platforms\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Fagundes, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2568322\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Social Norms of Waiting in Line\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/150\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 150: Shutting Down Hal\u003c/a\u003e (guest Christina Mulligan); Christina Mulligan, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3016048\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRevenge Against Robots\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLior Strahilevitz, \u003ca href=\"http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/law_and_economics/565/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Right to Abandon\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEduardo Peñalver, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/facpub/209/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Illusory Right to Abandon\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAaron Perzanowski and Jason Schultz, \u003ca href=\"http://www.theendofownership.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe End of Ownership\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoshua Fairfield, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Owned-Property-Privacy-Digital-Serfdom/dp/1107159350\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOwned: Property, Privacy, and the New Digital Serfdom\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Dave Fagundes.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On property and happiness, with David Fagundes.","date_published":"2017-11-05T08:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/d4278120-ea94-4925-9a57-d697650fadde.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":54502422,"duration_in_seconds":5329}]},{"id":"183613da-e16b-4956-934d-b4e5de19e7d7","title":"Episode 150: Shutting Down Hal","url":"https://oralargument.org/150","content_text":"We talk with Christina Mulligan about the salutary effects of smashing robots that have wronged you. Join us for a chat about revenge and satisfaction in the emerging human-robot social space.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nChristina Mulligan's faculty profile and writing\nChristina Mulligan, Revenge Against Robots\nAbout Betty Smith's A Tree Grows in Brooklyn\nAbout the Tree that Owns Itself\nThe Trial of the Autun Rats\nOral Argument 70: No Drones in the Park\nScott Hershovitz, Tort as a Substitute for Revenge\nKate Darling, Palash Nandy, and Cynthia Breazeal, Empathic Concern and the Effect of Stories in Human-Robot Interaction; Kate Darling, \"Who's Johnny?\" Anthropomorphic Framing in Human-Robot Interaction, Integration, and Policy\nOffice Space, the printer scene (nsfw)\nHunter Walk, Amazon Echo Is Magical. It’s Also Turning My Kid into an Asshole.\nHannah Gold, This Mirror that Forces People to Smile Is Going to Piss Everyone Off\nSpecial Guest: Christina Mulligan.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk with Christina Mulligan about the salutary effects of smashing robots that have wronged you. Join us for a chat about revenge and satisfaction in the emerging human-robot social space.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristina Mulligan\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.brooklaw.edu/faculty/directory/facultymember/biography?id=christina.mulligan\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1557395\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristina Mulligan, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3016048\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRevenge Against Robots\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout Betty Smith\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Tree_Grows_in_Brooklyn_(novel)\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Tree Grows in Brooklyn\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_That_Owns_Itself\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethe Tree that Owns Itself\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.duhaime.org/LawMuseum/LawArticle-1529/1508-The-Trial-of-the-Autun-Rats.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Trial of the Autun Rats\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/70\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 70: No Drones in the Park\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Hershovitz, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2308590\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTort as a Substitute for Revenge\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKate Darling, Palash Nandy, and Cynthia Breazeal, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2639689\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEmpathic Concern and the Effect of Stories in Human-Robot Interaction\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Kate Darling, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2588669\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e\u0026quot;Who\u0026#39;s Johnny?\u0026quot; Anthropomorphic Framing in Human-Robot Interaction, Integration, and Policy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wsjroVlu8\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOffice Space, the printer scene\u003c/a\u003e (nsfw)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHunter Walk, \u003ca href=\"https://hunterwalk.com/2016/04/06/amazon-echo-is-magical-its-also-turning-my-kid-into-an-asshole/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmazon Echo Is Magical. It’s Also Turning My Kid into an Asshole.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHannah Gold, \u003ca href=\"https://jezebel.com/this-mirror-that-forces-people-to-smile-is-going-to-pis-1819828956\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThis Mirror that Forces People to Smile Is Going to Piss Everyone Off\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Christina Mulligan.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On vengeance against robots, with Christina Mulligan.","date_published":"2017-10-29T10:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/183613da-e16b-4956-934d-b4e5de19e7d7.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":50401497,"duration_in_seconds":4919}]},{"id":"4f9daf9c-c6ef-470e-b1cd-3cddf6108f1d","title":"Episode 149: We've Been Given the Finger (Live at the Tech Law Institute)","url":"https://oralargument.org/149","content_text":"We returned this week to the annual Tech Law Institute meeting in Atlanta. We talk about data, law, and society: Joe and Christian's fight over data on the way to the conference, a new Supreme Court case involving cloud data and international boundaries, and the decisions that technology will force us to make. (Thanks to Jacob Davis for helping us provide written materials for the conference!)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSCOTUSblog page on United States v. Microsoft (including links to the petitions for cert and the Second Circuit's panel opinion)\nPaul Schwartz, Legal Access to Cloud Information: Data Shards, Data Localization, and Data Trusts\nThe National Security Law Podcast 41: Han Shot First (featuring discussion of the United States v. Microsoft)\nJennifer Daskal, There's No Good Decision in the Next Big Data Privacy Case\nSCOTUSblog page on Carpenter v. United States\nOral Argument 42: Shotgun Aphasia (guest Orin Kerr) (discussing Orin Kerr, An Equilibrium-Adjustment Theory of the Fourth Amendment)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe returned this week to the annual Tech Law Institute meeting in Atlanta. We talk about data, law, and society: Joe and Christian\u0026#39;s fight over data on the way to the conference, a new Supreme Court case involving cloud data and international boundaries, and the decisions that technology will force us to make. (Thanks to Jacob Davis for helping us provide written materials for the conference!)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/united-states-v-microsoft-corp/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSCOTUSblog page on \u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Microsoft\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (including links to the petitions for cert and the Second Circuit\u0026#39;s panel opinion)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Schwartz, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3008392\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal Access to Cloud Information: Data Shards, Data Localization, and Data Trusts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://nationalsecuritylawpodcast.com/episode-41-han-shot-first/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe National Security Law Podcast 41: Han Shot First\u003c/a\u003e (featuring discussion of the \u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Microsoft\u003c/em\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJennifer Daskal, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/18/opinion/data-abroad-privacy-court.html?_r=0\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThere\u0026#39;s No Good Decision in the Next Big Data Privacy Case\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/carpenter-v-united-states-2/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSCOTUSblog page on \u003cem\u003eCarpenter v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/42\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 42: Shotgun Aphasia\u003c/a\u003e (guest Orin Kerr) (discussing Orin Kerr, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1748222\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAn Equilibrium-Adjustment Theory of the Fourth Amendment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On data, live from the Tech Law Institute's conference in Atlanta.","date_published":"2017-10-22T10:45:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/4f9daf9c-c6ef-470e-b1cd-3cddf6108f1d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":33821723,"duration_in_seconds":3261}]},{"id":"60c3efaf-0459-4fb3-b0dd-f4a53c6ad69d","title":"Episode 148: The People of Puerto Rico","url":"https://oralargument.org/148","content_text":"We talk with appellate lawyer Chris Landau who represented Puerto Rico in two cases before the Supreme Cost last term. We focus on one of them, in which Puerto Rican criminal convictions were challenged on double jeopardy grounds: that Puerto Rico could not prosecute the defendants because they had already been convicted in federal court on essentially the same charges. This in turn depends on whether Puerto Rico has the same separate sovereign status as the states, whether it itself is the source of its laws or whether the United States is always a silent but superior authority. At bottom this case raised questions about the very identity of this island nation. In the wake of a devastating hurricane and a controversial federal response, we talk about law and sovereign identity - in our usual fashion, going between theory, pragmatic litigation issues, and, in this case, a complicated and fascinating history.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nChristopher Landau's profile \nSCOTUSblog page on Commonwealth of Puerto Rico v. Sánchez Valle (including links to the briefs, opinion, and oral argument)\nBrian Resnick and Eliza Barclay, What Every American Needs to Know about Puerto Rico’s Hurricane Disaster\nEdiberto Roman, Empire Forgotten: The United States's Colonization of Puerto Rico\nAbout the Insular Cases (including the list of the cases often included in this description) \nJoseph Blocher and G. Mitu Gulati, Puerto Rico and the Right of Accession\nMatthew Yglesias, The Jones Act, the Obscure 1920 Shipping Regulation Strangling Puerto Rico, Explained\nSpecial Guest: Christopher Landau.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk with appellate lawyer Chris Landau who represented Puerto Rico in two cases before the Supreme Cost last term. We focus on one of them, in which Puerto Rican criminal convictions were challenged on double jeopardy grounds: that Puerto Rico could not prosecute the defendants because they had already been convicted in federal court on essentially the same charges. This in turn depends on whether Puerto Rico has the same separate sovereign status as the states, whether it itself is the source of its laws or whether the United States is always a silent but superior authority. At bottom this case raised questions about the very identity of this island nation. In the wake of a devastating hurricane and a controversial federal response, we talk about law and sovereign identity - in our usual fashion, going between theory, pragmatic litigation issues, and, in this case, a complicated and fascinating history.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher Landau\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm?itemID=8991\u0026contentID=220\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eprofile\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSCOTUSblog \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/puerto-rico-v-sanchez-valle/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003epage on \u003cem\u003eCommonwealth of Puerto Rico v. Sánchez Valle\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (including links to the briefs, opinion, and oral argument)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrian Resnick and Eliza Barclay, \u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/9/26/16365994/hurricane-maria-2017-puerto-rico-san-juan-humanitarian-disaster-electricty-fuel-flights-facts\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Every American Needs to Know about Puerto Rico’s Hurricane Disaster\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEdiberto Roman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2997685\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEmpire Forgotten: The United States\u0026#39;s Colonization of Puerto Rico\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insular_Cases\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout the \u003cem\u003eInsular Cases\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (including the list of the cases often included in this description) \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Blocher and G. Mitu Gulati, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2988102\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePuerto Rico and the Right of Accession\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew Yglesias, \u003ca href=\"https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/27/16373484/jones-act-puerto-rico\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Jones Act, the Obscure 1920 Shipping Regulation Strangling Puerto Rico, Explained\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Christopher Landau.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On Puerto Rican sovereignty, with Chris Landau.","date_published":"2017-10-15T12:45:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/60c3efaf-0459-4fb3-b0dd-f4a53c6ad69d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":63469521,"duration_in_seconds":6226}]},{"id":"92568ed3-d82a-4317-998b-46960c399510","title":"Episode 147: Busting Famine","url":"https://oralargument.org/147","content_text":"Just Joe and Christian, coming to you after a terrible week. We talk guns, ex-Judge Posner's book and humility, the right rules for disabled stoplights, the closing of a coffeehouse, and airplane seat reclining behavior.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOral Argument 101: Tug of War\nRichard Posner, Reforming the Federal Judiciary\nSteven Lubet, Richard Posner, Unedited (Part One)\nZoran Tasic, Reforming Richard Posner\nOral Argument 32: Go Figure (on Judge Posner's gay marriage opinion in Baskin) and Oral Argument 131: Because of Sex (featuring discussion with Anthony Kreis about Judge Posner's Hively opinion)\nWINIR\nHow do you pronounce Utrecht?\nThe Perfect Cappuccino\nTwo Story's Last Day in Five Points (including a photo of Christian with the shop's last cap)\nChristian Turner, The Cost of Foregone Biergartens\nOral Argument 31: Knee Defender (and see episode 32, above, for more knee defender discussion)\nChristopher Buccafusco and Christopher Jon Sprigman, How to Resolve Fights over Reclining Airplane Seats: Use Behavioral Economics\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJust Joe and Christian, coming to you after a terrible week. We talk guns, ex-Judge Posner\u0026#39;s book and humility, the right rules for disabled stoplights, the closing of a coffeehouse, and airplane seat reclining behavior.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/101\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 101: Tug of War\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Posner, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Reforming-Federal-Judiciary-Televising-Arguments/dp/1976014794\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReforming the Federal Judiciary\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteven Lubet, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2017/10/richard-posner-unedited.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRichard Posner, Unedited (Part One)\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eZoran Tasic, \u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/@ztasic/reforming-richard-posner-a25ce8fddece\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReforming Richard Posner\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/32\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 32: Go Figure\u003c/a\u003e (on Judge Posner\u0026#39;s gay marriage opinion in \u003cem\u003eBaskin\u003c/em\u003e) and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/131\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 131: Because of Sex\u003c/a\u003e (featuring discussion with Anthony Kreis about Judge Posner\u0026#39;s \u003cem\u003eHively\u003c/em\u003e opinion)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://winir.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eWINIR\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-pronounce-Utrecht\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eHow do you pronounce Utrecht?\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://cappuccinomovie.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Perfect Cappuccino\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.redandblack.com/multimedia/photos-two-story-s-last-day-in-five-points/collection_5a4052c2-a21f-11e7-bd12-5391199be363.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eTwo Story\u0026#39;s Last Day in Five Points\u003c/a\u003e (including a photo of Christian with the shop\u0026#39;s last cap)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"https://www.hydratext.com/blog/2013/3/8/the-cost-of-foregone-biergartens.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Cost of Foregone Biergartens\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/31\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 31: Knee Defender\u003c/a\u003e (and see episode 32, above, for more knee defender discussion)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher Buccafusco and Christopher Jon Sprigman, \u003ca href=\"http://evonomics.com/resolve-fights-reclining-airplane-seats-use-behavioral-economics/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow to Resolve Fights over Reclining Airplane Seats: Use Behavioral Economics\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Just Joe and Christian on all things.","date_published":"2017-10-06T13:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/92568ed3-d82a-4317-998b-46960c399510.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":39094820,"duration_in_seconds":3789}]},{"id":"f626305a-655d-40f9-8309-0676ac5b6821","title":"Episode 146: Somehow in the Middle","url":"https://oralargument.org/146","content_text":"With Charles Barzun, we discuss Justice Souter and the nature of legal justification. But we take the long way around to get there, starting with some of Souter’s opinions, moving on to philosophy – the nature of moral reasoning and its relation to fact and intuition – and then back to legal theory and Charles’s insight concerning Justice Souter’s jurisprudence.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nCharles Barzun’s faculty profile and writing\nCharles Barzun, Justice Souter’s Common Law\nJustice Souter’s discussion of Plessy and the role of history in judging (watch from minute one until about minute fourteen) and his Harvard Commencement speech on Plessy\nSome Souter opinions Joe loves: Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Markman v. Westview Instruments, and California Dental Assoc. v. Federal Trade Commission\nOld Chief v. United States; Oyez’s Old Chief page, including links to the oral argument and hand-down\nPlanned Parenthood v. Casey; Oyez’s Casey page, including links to the oral argument and hand-down\nJohn Burnett, Border Patrol Arrests Parents While Infant Awaits Serious Operation\nNoah Feldman’s Constitution Day interview of Justice Souter\nSpecial Guest: Charles Barzun.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWith Charles Barzun, we discuss Justice Souter and the nature of legal justification. But we take the long way around to get there, starting with some of Souter’s opinions, moving on to philosophy – the nature of moral reasoning and its relation to fact and intuition – and then back to legal theory and Charles’s insight concerning Justice Souter’s jurisprudence.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Barzun’s \u003ca href=\"https://content.law.virginia.edu/faculty/profile/clb6x/1144315\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=546584\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Barzun, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3035402\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJustice Souter’s Common Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJustice Souter’s discussion of \u003ca href=\"http://www.c-span.org/video/?284498-2/america-courts\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlessy\u003c/em\u003e and the role of history in judging\u003c/a\u003e (watch from minute one until about minute fourteen) and his \u003ca href=\"http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2010/05/text-of-justice-david-souters-speech/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eHarvard Commencement speech\u003c/a\u003e on \u003cem\u003ePlessy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSome Souter opinions Joe loves: \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16686162998040575773\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCampbell v. Acuff-Rose Music\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5582995013670943601\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMarkman v. Westview Instruments\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8595505836313744277\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCalifornia Dental Assoc. v. Federal Trade Commission\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2711105174348004240\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOld Chief v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://www.oyez.org/cases/1996/95-6556\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOyez’s \u003cem\u003eOld Chief\u003c/em\u003e page, including links to the oral argument and hand-down\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6298856056242550994\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlanned Parenthood v. Casey\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://www.oyez.org/cases/1991/91-744\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOyez’s \u003cem\u003eCasey\u003c/em\u003e page, including links to the oral argument and hand-down\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Burnett, \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/09/20/552339976/border-patrol-arrests-parents-while-infant-awaits-serious-operation\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBorder Patrol Arrests Parents While Infant Awaits Serious Operation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNoah Feldman’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.c-span.org/video/?288993-2/former-justice-souter-constitution\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eConstitution Day interview of Justice Souter\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Charles Barzun.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On Justice Souter's legal reasoning, with Charles Barzun.","date_published":"2017-09-24T09:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/f626305a-655d-40f9-8309-0676ac5b6821.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":53139930,"duration_in_seconds":5193}]},{"id":"8390b986-b9ac-4b05-9f9f-db6823d13888","title":"Episode 145: The Skeleton","url":"https://oralargument.org/145","content_text":"Back after a long hiatus, we talk about Joe’s latest work on patent law and Supreme Court citations networks. Opening a banana, the opening of corpse flowers, the eclipse, news non-roundup, DACA and naming, and, finally, Joe’s paper, examining the steep increase in patent cases before the Supreme Court over the last two decades by mapping citation networks among intellectual property cases, at 20:02.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJoseph Miller, Which Supreme Court Cases Influenced Recent Supreme Court IP Decisions? A Citation Study\nHow to peel a banana\nThree Corpse Flowers Bloomed at USBG in 2017\nFred Espenak, Periodicity of Solar Eclipses\nAbout Predestination (which is based on All You Zombies by Robert Heinlein) (Warning: Do Not Read the Plot Summary, just see the movie)\nAbout Saturday morning cartoon preview specials\nAbout the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit\nCourt Listener’s Supreme Court Citation Networks tool\nScott Dodson and Colin Starger, Mapping Supreme Court Doctrine: Civil Pleading (Starger’s other papers on SSRN trace NFIB and Windsor)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eBack after a long hiatus, we talk about Joe’s latest work on patent law and Supreme Court citations networks. Opening a banana, the opening of corpse flowers, the eclipse, news non-roundup, DACA and naming, and, finally, Joe’s paper, examining the steep increase in patent cases before the Supreme Court over the last two decades by mapping citation networks among intellectual property cases, at 20:02.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Miller, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3012262\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhich Supreme Court Cases Influenced Recent Supreme Court IP Decisions? A Citation Study\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/food/2014/02/banana_peeling_trick_video_shows_bottom_first_best_method.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eHow to peel a banana\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.usbg.gov/three-corpse-flowers-bloomed-usbg-2017\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThree Corpse Flowers Bloomed at USBG in 2017\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFred Espenak, \u003ca href=\"http://www.eclipsewise.com/solar/SEhelp/SEperiodicity.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePeriodicity of Solar Eclipses\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_(film)\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePredestination\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (which is based on \u003cem\u003eAll You Zombies\u003c/em\u003e by Robert Heinlein) (Warning: Do Not Read the Plot Summary, just see the movie)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_morning_preview_specials\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSaturday morning cartoon preview specials\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Federal_Circuit\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethe Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCourt Listener’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.courtlistener.com/visualizations/scotus-mapper/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSupreme Court Citation Networks tool\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Dodson and Colin Starger, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2422160\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMapping Supreme Court Doctrine: Civil Pleading\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Starger’s other papers on SSRN trace \u003cem\u003eNFIB\u003c/em\u003e and \u003cem\u003eWindsor\u003c/em\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On citation networks and other things.","date_published":"2017-09-08T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/8390b986-b9ac-4b05-9f9f-db6823d13888.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":53713981,"duration_in_seconds":5251}]},{"id":"650bc7ce-9b2e-4f61-a787-6e3647ec2775","title":"Episode 144: Path of Totality","url":"https://oralargument.org/144","content_text":"We ramble about various non-law things. Maybe this will become the first installment of our annual beach episode series, in which we casually let it all hang out and take a vacation from law. We'll be back in a couple of weeks with the usual nonsense, rather than this unusual nonsense.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe ramble about various non-law things. Maybe this will become the first installment of our annual beach episode series, in which we casually let it all hang out and take a vacation from law. We\u0026#39;ll be back in a couple of weeks with the usual nonsense, rather than this unusual nonsense.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Just us in a weird episode about nothing in particular.","date_published":"2017-08-04T12:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/650bc7ce-9b2e-4f61-a787-6e3647ec2775.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":61937015,"duration_in_seconds":7591}]},{"id":"b0b74aee-e134-4cbf-9534-515d7eb60327","title":"Episode 143: The Gak","url":"https://oralargument.org/143","content_text":"More than the usual nonsense and sniffles as we try to empty the mailbag. Note: Because of a massive gap between time available and time required to edit out the gak, this episode contains many more than the average number of sniffles and echoes. We tried to fire the editor responsible but learned he was one of us, unpaid, and would either be able to release this episode as is or not at all. Religion and American policy (6:19), a chrono-completist suggests a show topic (10:51), on sex discrimination (14:08), incentives for creation (22:16), boilerplate and terms of service (27:04), antitrust and big data (28:50), boilerplate and the FyreFestival (36:59), boilerplate and arbitration and class actions and airline passengers (38:43), ye ole 1x vs. 2x debate and binge-watching/listening (45:35), Asher Steinberg on the major question exception to Chevron (51:21), self-promotion (52:30), “research” not equal to “to search again”(54:03), Grimmelman’s Property Course and IP and the bar exam (57:14), ethicists and the morality of expedited review (1:03:34), return to the place of the constitutional law course (1:06:22), the limited role of books on the web (1:11:47), cosplay (1:13:40), Joel’s article (1:14:22), the politicization of the U.S. Supreme Court and its appointments compared to other countries and more on the Crossover episode (1:15:01), argument in the monkey selfie case (1:23:15), Wonder Woman and Star Trek vs. Star Wars (1:25:06).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOral Argument 101: Tug of War (on gun violence)\nOral Argument 131: Because of Sex (guest Anthony Kreis on sex discrimination)\nOral Argument 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe (on Joe’s favorite case(s))\nOral Argument 132: The Soul of Music (guest Joe Fishman on copyright in music)\nNicholas Georgakopoulos, The Logic of Securities Law\nOral Argument 133: Too Many Darn Radio Buttons (guest Jim Gibson on boilerplate in contracts)\nHBO, Silicon Valley: Terms of Service; see also Nick Statt, HBO’s Silicon Valley Wades into a Heated Debate about Privacy Policies\nFrom The Economist, no byline: The World’s Most Valuable Resource Is No Longer Oil, but Data\nOral Argument 139: It’s All the Stacey Show (guest Stacey Dogan on competition law and IP)\nAbout the Fyre Festival\nJens David Ohlin, United Airlines’ Own Contract Denied It Any Right to Remove Passenger\nAsher Steinberg, Another Addition to the Chevron Anticanon: Judge Kavanaugh on the “Major Rules” Doctrine\nOral Argument 135: Alexandria (guest James Grimmelman on the Google Books settlement and other things)\nCrabbe's English Synonymes [sic], Centennial Edition (1917), at p. 228 (“re” as intensive)\nOral Argument 61: Minimum Competence (guest Derek Muller on the bar exam)\nOral Argument 96: Students as Means\nGeorge Bodarky, How New York’s Roosevelt Island Sucks Away Summer Trash Stink\nJoel Townsend, Adequacy of Risk Assessment in the Exercise of the Character Cancellation Power under the Migration Act 1958 (Cth) (abstract public, paper behind a paywall)\nOral Argument 134: Crossover (with the hosts of First Mondays)\nThe oral argument in Naruto v. Slater (the monkey selfie case at 1:46:00 in the video)\nOral Argument 141: The Picard Meltdown Principle (guest Leah Litman)\nOral Argument 142: Normativity (guest Jeffrey Kaplan)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eMore than the usual nonsense and sniffles as we try to empty the mailbag. Note: Because of a massive gap between time available and time required to edit out the gak, this episode contains many more than the average number of sniffles and echoes. We tried to fire the editor responsible but learned he was one of us, unpaid, and would either be able to release this episode as is or not at all. Religion and American policy (6:19), a chrono-completist suggests a show topic (10:51), on sex discrimination (14:08), incentives for creation (22:16), boilerplate and terms of service (27:04), antitrust and big data (28:50), boilerplate and the FyreFestival (36:59), boilerplate and arbitration and class actions and airline passengers (38:43), ye ole 1x vs. 2x debate and binge-watching/listening (45:35), Asher Steinberg on the major question exception to Chevron (51:21), self-promotion (52:30), “research” not equal to “to search again”(54:03), Grimmelman’s Property Course and IP and the bar exam (57:14), ethicists and the morality of expedited review (1:03:34), return to the place of the constitutional law course (1:06:22), the limited role of books on the web (1:11:47), cosplay (1:13:40), Joel’s article (1:14:22), the politicization of the U.S. Supreme Court and its appointments compared to other countries and more on the Crossover episode (1:15:01), argument in the monkey selfie case (1:23:15), Wonder Woman and Star Trek vs. Star Wars (1:25:06).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/101\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 101: Tug of War\u003c/a\u003e (on gun violence)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/131\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 131: Because of Sex\u003c/a\u003e (guest Anthony Kreis on sex discrimination)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/28\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe\u003c/a\u003e (on Joe’s favorite case(s))\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/132\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 132: The Soul of Music\u003c/a\u003e (guest Joe Fishman on copyright in music)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNicholas Georgakopoulos, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Logic-Securities-Law-Nicholas-Georgakopoulos/dp/1107158508/ref=sr_1_1?s=books\u0026ie=UTF8\u0026qid=1491051115\u0026sr=1-1\u0026keywords=georgakopoulos%2C+logic+of+securities+law\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Logic of Securities Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/133\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 133: Too Many Darn Radio Buttons\u003c/a\u003e (guest Jim Gibson on boilerplate in contracts)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHBO, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hbo.com/silicon-valley/episodes/4/30-terms-of-service/index.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSilicon Valley: \u003cem\u003eTerms of Service\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also Nick Statt, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/1/15504692/hbo-silicon-valley-season-4-episode-2-terms-of-service-recap\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHBO’s\u003c/em\u003e Silicon Valley \u003cem\u003eWades into a Heated Debate about Privacy Policies\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrom The Economist, no byline: \u003ca href=\"http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21721656-data-economy-demands-new-approach-antitrust-rules-worlds-most-valuable-resource\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe World’s Most Valuable Resource Is No Longer Oil, but Data\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/139\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 139: It’s All the Stacey Show\u003c/a\u003e (guest Stacey Dogan on competition law and IP)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyre_Festival\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout the Fyre Festival\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJens David Ohlin, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2017/04/united-airlines-own-contract-denied-it.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited Airlines’ Own Contract Denied It Any Right to Remove Passenger\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAsher Steinberg, \u003ca href=\"http://narrowestgrounds.blogspot.com/2017/05/another-addition-to-chevron-anticanon.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAnother Addition to the\u003c/em\u003e Chevron \u003cem\u003eAnticanon: Judge Kavanaugh on the “Major Rules” Doctrine\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/135\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 135: Alexandria\u003c/a\u003e (guest James Grimmelman on the Google Books settlement and other things)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=4UBAAQAAMAAJ\u0026pg=PA228\u0026dq=%22the+particle+re%22+intensive+french\u0026hl=en\u0026sa=X\u0026ved=0ahUKEwickeCZ5O_TAhXi6YMKHUG1BPAQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage\u0026q=%22the%20particle%20re%22%20intensive%20french\u0026f=false\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCrabbe\u0026#39;s English Synonymes\u003c/em\u003e [sic], Centennial Edition (1917), at p. 228\u003c/a\u003e (“re” as intensive)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/61\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 61: Minimum Competence\u003c/a\u003e (guest Derek Muller on the bar exam)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/96\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 96: Students as Means\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGeorge Bodarky, \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/07/26/539304811/how-new-york-s-roosevelt-island-sucks-away-summer-trash-stink\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow New York’s Roosevelt Island Sucks Away Summer Trash Stink\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoel Townsend, \u003ca href=\"http://sites.thomsonreuters.com.au/journals/2017/06/11/public-law-review-update-vol-28-pt-2/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAdequacy of Risk Assessment in the Exercise of the Character Cancellation Power under the Migration Act 1958 (Cth)\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (abstract public, paper behind a paywall)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/134\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 134: Crossover\u003c/a\u003e (with the hosts of \u003ca href=\"http://www.firstmondays.fm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFirst Mondays\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/view_video.php?pk_vid=0000011851\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe oral argument in \u003cem\u003eNaruto v. Slater\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the monkey selfie case at 1:46:00 in the video)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/141\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 141: The Picard Meltdown Principle\u003c/a\u003e (guest Leah Litman)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/142\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 142: Normativity\u003c/a\u003e (guest Jeffrey Kaplan)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Into the mailbag.","date_published":"2017-08-01T16:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/b0b74aee-e134-4cbf-9534-515d7eb60327.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":58871274,"duration_in_seconds":5766}]},{"id":"568795e9-7521-4e11-9027-767dd7382a75","title":"Episode 142: Normativity","url":"https://oralargument.org/142","content_text":"Jeffrey Kaplan joins us to discuss his work in philosophy on the nature of law, law’s connection to morality, and the way law gives us reasons to follow it. We discuss the connection with Christian’s work and also succeed (wildly but sporadically) in providing the usual nonsense.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJeffrey Kaplan’s webpage\nFirst Mondays\nSummary Judgment\nJeffrey Kaplan, Attitude and the Normativity of Law\nChristian Turner, Models of Law\nChristian Turner, Legal Theory 101 (note the links and episodes on Hart, Dworkin, Fuller, Shapiro, and Hershovitz\nScott Hershovitz, The End of Jurisprudence\nStephen Perry, Hart on Social Rules and the Foundations of Law: Liberating the Internal Point of View\nScott Shapiro, The Planning Theory of Law\nDavid Plunkett and Scott Shapiro, Law, Morality and Everything Else: General Jurisprudence as a Branch of Meta-Normative Inquiry\nBrian Tamanaha, A Realistic Theory of Law\nBrian Tamanaha, Necessary and Universal Truths About Law?\nAnil Seth, Your Brain Hallucinates Your Conscious Reality (TED Talk)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJeffrey Kaplan joins us to discuss his work in philosophy on the nature of law, law’s connection to morality, and the way law gives us reasons to follow it. We discuss the connection with Christian’s work and also succeed (wildly but sporadically) in providing the usual nonsense.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeffrey Kaplan’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.jeffreykaplan.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewebpage\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.firstmondays.fm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFirst Mondays\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.summaryjudgmentpod.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSummary Judgment\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeffrey Kaplan, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2991878\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAttitude and the Normativity of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2835112\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eModels of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"https://www.hydratext.com/legal-theory-101/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eLegal Theory 101\u003c/a\u003e (note the links and episodes on Hart, Dworkin, Fuller, Shapiro, and Hershovitz\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Hershovitz, \u003ca href=\"http://www.yalelawjournal.org/pdf/f.1160.Hershovitz.1204_96n1tozj.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe End of Jurisprudence\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Perry, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/faculty_scholarship/1107/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHart on Social Rules and the Foundations of Law: Liberating the Internal Point of View\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Shapiro, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2937990\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Planning Theory of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Plunkett and Scott Shapiro, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2964089\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaw, Morality and Everything Else: General Jurisprudence as a Branch of Meta-Normative Inquiry\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrian Tamanaha, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Social-Legal-Theory-Modern-Transformation/dp/1316638510\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Realistic Theory of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrian Tamanaha, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2799935\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNecessary and Universal Truths About Law?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnil Seth, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality/up-next\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eYour Brain Hallucinates Your Conscious Reality\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (TED Talk)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On the nature of law and its reasons, with Jeffrey Kaplan.","date_published":"2017-07-23T10:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/568795e9-7521-4e11-9027-767dd7382a75.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":49163532,"duration_in_seconds":4796}]},{"id":"988778b9-ddf4-4483-8c99-01887c2d204b","title":"Episode 141: The Picard Meltdown Principle","url":"https://oralargument.org/141","content_text":"Leah Litman joins us to discuss the problematic argument that a law’s novelty is a reason to believe it is unconstitutional. In particular, she focuses on arguments that statutes that affect the separation of powers or the federalism balance are suspect if they are somehow unprecedented. Also, brief updates on: a wasp, Joe’s living situation, Christian’s health, Leah’s bee-related flight delay.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nLeah Litman’s faculty profile and writing\nLeah Litman, Debunking Antinovelty\nFirst Mondays\nUnited States v. Windsor; Romer v. Evans\nPrintz v. United States; Free Enterprise Fund v. PCAOB; NFIB v. Sibelius (Obamacare I)\nCass Sunstein, Incompletely Theorized Agreements\nPHH Corp. v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau\nKarl Llewellyn, The Bramble Bush: On Our Law and Its Study\nSpecial Guest: Leah Litman.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eLeah Litman joins us to discuss the problematic argument that a law’s novelty is a reason to believe it is unconstitutional. In particular, she focuses on arguments that statutes that affect the separation of powers or the federalism balance are suspect if they are somehow unprecedented. Also, brief updates on: a wasp, Joe’s living situation, Christian’s health, Leah’s bee-related flight delay.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLeah Litman’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uci.edu/faculty/full-time/litman/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=2361860\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLeah Litman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2843763\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDebunking Antinovelty\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.firstmondays.fm/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFirst Mondays\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6241888197107641609\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Windsor\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17758055891258118781\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRomer v. Evans\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10894716839911389166\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePrintz v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12800232869146089406\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFree Enterprise Fund v. PCAOB\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11973730494168859869\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNFIB v. Sibelius\u003c/em\u003e (Obamacare I)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCass Sunstein, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2995488\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIncompletely Theorized Agreements\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=668509147734540905\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePHH Corp. v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKarl Llewellyn, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=rxqSEU7y6lkC\u0026q=%22orthodox+view%22#v=snippet\u0026q=%22orthodox%20view%22\u0026f=false\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Bramble Bush: On Our Law and Its Study\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Leah Litman.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On anti-novelty arguments in constitutional law, with Leah Litman.","date_published":"2017-07-09T10:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/988778b9-ddf4-4483-8c99-01887c2d204b.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":49550488,"duration_in_seconds":4834}]},{"id":"1e18f775-e187-4b10-9e4f-5829af71f442","title":"Episode 140: Decider","url":"https://oralargument.org/140","content_text":"If the president does it, is it automatically legal? Of course not, but why not? How is the president constrained by law? Daphna Renan joins us to talk about the structures within the Executive Branch and the attitudes toward them that define what the legal constraints presidents create for themselves. From the post-Watergate efforts to create independent and legalistic sources of Marbury-like trumps on presidential prerogative to today’s chaos, Daphna explores the many design choices between formality and informality, centralization and diffusion, and independence and control. Also the normal nonsense.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDaphna Renan’s faculty profile and writing\nDaphna Renan, The Law Presidents Make\nAbout the Office of Legal Counsel, the White House Counsel, and the Solicitor General\nJeremy Waldron, Separation of Powers in Thought and Practice?\nJack Goldsmith, The Terror Presidency: Law and Judgment Inside the Bush Administration\nSpecial Guest: Daphna Renan.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIf the president does it, is it automatically legal? Of course not, but why not? How is the president constrained by law? Daphna Renan joins us to talk about the structures within the Executive Branch and the attitudes toward them that define what the legal constraints presidents create for themselves. From the post-Watergate efforts to create independent and legalistic sources of Marbury-like trumps on presidential prerogative to today’s chaos, Daphna explores the many design choices between formality and informality, centralization and diffusion, and independence and control. Also the normal nonsense.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaphna Renan’s \u003ca href=\"http://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/11495/Renan\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=2426885\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaphna Renan, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2948177\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Law Presidents Make\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Legal_Counsel\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout the Office of Legal Counsel\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Counsel\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethe White House Counsel\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solicitor_General_of_the_United_States\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethe Solicitor General\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeremy Waldron, \u003ca href=\"http://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/bclr/vol54/iss2/2/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSeparation of Powers in Thought and Practice?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJack Goldsmith, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Terror_Presidency.html?id=3uFre3VPSz8C\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Terror Presidency: Law and Judgment Inside the Bush Administration\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Daphna Renan.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On presidential legal decisionmaking, with Daphna Renan.","date_published":"2017-07-02T10:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/1e18f775-e187-4b10-9e4f-5829af71f442.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":46076096,"duration_in_seconds":4487}]},{"id":"829213bb-b338-41b2-a409-05ba4710c046","title":"Episode 139: It’s All the Stacey Show","url":"https://oralargument.org/139","content_text":"IP expert Stacey Dogan joins us to discuss: the merits and demerits of trademark law, values and stock characters of IP, non-interference and design choice, antitrust and IP optimists and skeptics, BU’s new clinics and collaborations with MIT for law and innovation.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nStacey Dogan’s faculty profile and writing\nBarton Beebe, Intellectual Property Law and the Sumptuary Code\nSmith v. Chanel\nStacey Dogan and Mark Lemley, Parody as Brand\nStacey Dogan, The Role of Design Choice in Intellectual Property and Antitrust Law\nINS v. AP, Berkey Photo v. Eastman Kodak, Sony Corp. v. Universal City Studios, and MGM v. Grokster\nAbout the Microsoft Antitrust Litigation\nKim Zetter, Federal Judge Throws out Gag Order Against Boston Students in Subway Case\nPeter Dizikes, New Legal Program to Support Students\nAbout the BU School of Law’s Entrepreneurship and Intellectual Property Clinic\nAnd about the school’s Technology and Cyberlaw Clinic\nSpecial Guest: Stacey Dogan.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIP expert Stacey Dogan joins us to discuss: the merits and demerits of trademark law, values and stock characters of IP, non-interference and design choice, antitrust and IP optimists and skeptics, BU’s new clinics and collaborations with MIT for law and innovation.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStacey Dogan’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.bu.edu/law/profile/stacey-dogan/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=87890\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBarton Beebe, \u003ca href=\"https://harvardlawreview.org/2010/02/intellectual-property-law-and-the-sumptuary-code/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIntellectual Property Law and the Sumptuary Code\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16887560236890964726\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSmith v. Chanel\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStacey Dogan and Mark Lemley, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2170498\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eParody as Brand\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStacey Dogan, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2862594\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Role of Design Choice in Intellectual Property and Antitrust Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16577297531712180725\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eINS v. AP\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9338840886663363935\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBerkey Photo v. Eastman Kodak\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5876335373788447272\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSony Corp. v. Universal City Studios\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8647956476676426155\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMGM v. Grokster\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout the Microsoft Antitrust Litigation\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKim Zetter, \u003ca href=\"https://www.wired.com/2008/08/federal-judge-t\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFederal Judge Throws out Gag Order Against Boston Students in Subway Case\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePeter Dizikes, \u003ca href=\"https://news.mit.edu/2015/support-students-business-cyber-law-0909\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNew Legal Program to Support Students\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://sites.bu.edu/elawclinic/about-the-clinic/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout the BU School of Law’s Entrepreneurship and Intellectual Property Clinic\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnd \u003ca href=\"http://sites.bu.edu/tclc/about-the-clinic/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eabout the school’s Technology and Cyberlaw Clinic\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Stacey Dogan.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On trademark, IP characters, and clinics, with Stacey Dogan.","date_published":"2017-06-25T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/829213bb-b338-41b2-a409-05ba4710c046.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":38692923,"duration_in_seconds":3748}]},{"id":"c682e3e6-bb1e-4804-90ca-9daa89f13710","title":"Episode 138: Crackdowns","url":"https://oralargument.org/138","content_text":"CRACKDOWN TIME, with Mila Sohoni! Whatever the law says in the books, it is felt by all of us when it is enforced. How should we think about a sudden change in enforcement priorities that cracks down on some allegedly bad thing? Mila helps us to understand the many reasons agents might have to crack down. From sudden, strict, money-raising speed-limit enforcement to rounding up minorities. We discuss connection with interpretation and “islands of simple literalism,” the role of judges in holding and rhetoric. And speed traps return!\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMila Sohoni’s faculty profile and writing\nMila Sohoni, Crackdowns\nBond v. United States and Yates v. United States\nJudge Reinhardt’s concurrence in Ortiz v. Sessions\nJed Rakoff, The Financial Crisis: Why Have No High-Level Executives Been Prosecuted?\nEnquist v. Oregon Department of Agriculture\nAbout the Devil’s Advocate\nZachary Price, Reliance on Nonenforcement (see also his Washington Post op-ed Could the Trump Administration Entrap Dreamers?)\nSpecial Guest: Mila Sohoni.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eCRACKDOWN TIME, with Mila Sohoni! Whatever the law says in the books, it is felt by all of us when it is enforced. How should we think about a sudden change in enforcement priorities that cracks down on some allegedly bad thing? Mila helps us to understand the many reasons agents might have to crack down. From sudden, strict, money-raising speed-limit enforcement to rounding up minorities. We discuss connection with interpretation and “islands of simple literalism,” the role of judges in holding and rhetoric. And speed traps return!\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMila Sohoni’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.sandiego.edu/law/faculty/profiles/bio.php?ID=1252\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=976436\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMila Sohoni, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2877476\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCrackdowns\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14369486041709640908\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBond v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4276838743116849486\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eYates v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15687290100748814315\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eJudge Reinhardt’s concurrence in \u003cem\u003eOrtiz v. Sessions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJed Rakoff, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2014/01/09/financial-crisis-why-no-executive-prosecutions/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Financial Crisis: Why Have No High-Level Executives Been Prosecuted?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4204636530314193260\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEnquist v. Oregon Department of Agriculture\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_advocate\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout the Devil’s Advocate\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eZachary Price, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2823808\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReliance on Nonenforcement\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see also his Washington Post op-ed \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/entrapping-the-dreamers/2016/11/24/36ac92b0-b19f-11e6-8616-52b15787add0_story.html?utm_term=.3c318b1166a5\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCould the Trump Administration Entrap Dreamers?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Mila Sohoni.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On crackdowns, with Mila Sohoni.","date_published":"2017-06-14T17:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/c682e3e6-bb1e-4804-90ca-9daa89f13710.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":41772122,"duration_in_seconds":4056}]},{"id":"0a581892-7993-4abb-bc44-dcce2facbeb7","title":"Episode 137: Steve Vladeck Pincer Move","url":"https://oralargument.org/137","content_text":"Where federal courts, national security, and subtle but important problems lurk, you’ll find Steve Vladeck explaining things. Steve joins us to talk about a seemingly narrow question of the proper application a statute prohibiting civil-office holding by military officers. The issue, though, could hardly be more far-reaching, asking us to consider the principles of civilian control of the military and military non-control of civil life.  Also, a little on the use of “treason” to describe the allegations of the Trump campaign’s collusion with Russian operatives and Flynn’s work for Turkey.   \n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSteve Vladeck’s faculty profile, academic writing, and blogging on Lawfare\nThe National Security Law Podcast and in particular episode 21: A Military Commissions Deep Dive\nSteve Vladeck, An Unconventional Test Case for Civilian Control of the Military\nSCOTUSblog page for Dalmazzi v. United States (containing links to the opinion below and all briefing)\nEdmond v. United States\nIn re Al-Nashiri\nSteve Vladeck, The Misbegotten Court of Military Commission Review\nChristian Turner, Submarine Statutes\nWilliam Eskridge and John Ferejohn, Super-Statutes\nKathleen McInnis, Statutory Restrictions on the Position of Secretary of Defense: Issues for Congress (an excellent and highly readable Congressional Research Service report on civilian control of the military and civil-military relations)\nSteve Vladeck, [Calling it] Treason Doth Never Prosper…\nDiane Mazur, A More Perfect Military\nSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhere federal courts, national security, and subtle but important problems lurk, you’ll find Steve Vladeck explaining things. Steve joins us to talk about a seemingly narrow question of the proper application a statute prohibiting civil-office holding by military officers. The issue, though, could hardly be more far-reaching, asking us to consider the principles of civilian control of the military and military non-control of civil life.  Also, a little on the use of “treason” to describe the allegations of the Trump campaign’s collusion with Russian operatives and Flynn’s work for Turkey.   \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/stephen-i-vladeck\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=362455\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eacademic writing\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://lawfareblog.com/contributors/svladeck\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eblogging on Lawfare\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.nationalsecuritylawpodcast.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe National Security Law Podcast\u003c/a\u003e and in particular \u003ca href=\"https://www.nationalsecuritylawpodcast.com/episode-21-a-military-commissions-deep-dive/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eepisode 21: A Military Commissions Deep Dive\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"https://lawfareblog.com/unconventional-test-case-civilian-control-military\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAn Unconventional Test Case for Civilian Control of the Military\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSCOTUSblog page for \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/dalmazzi-v-united-states/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDalmazzi v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (containing links to the opinion below and all briefing)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=378350361225082100\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEdmond v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1182013408965603282\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eIn re \u003cem\u003eAl-Nashiri\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"https://www.lawfareblog.com/misbegotten-court-military-commission-review\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Misbegotten Court of Military Commission Review\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2913641\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSubmarine Statutes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Eskridge and John Ferejohn, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/dlj/vol50/iss5/3/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSuper-Statutes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKathleen McInnis, \u003ca href=\"https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R44725.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eStatutory Restrictions on the Position of Secretary of Defense: Issues for Congress\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (an excellent and highly readable Congressional Research Service report on civilian control of the military and civil-military relations)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"https://www.justsecurity.org/39204/calling-it-treason-doth-prosper/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e[Calling it] Treason Doth Never Prosper…\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDiane Mazur, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/More-Perfect-Military-Constitution-Stronger/dp/0195394488\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA More Perfect Military\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the civilian-military divide, with Steve Vladeck.","date_published":"2017-06-02T11:45:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/0a581892-7993-4abb-bc44-dcce2facbeb7.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":49151036,"duration_in_seconds":4794}]},{"id":"5f7a14c2-9485-4ea7-941b-dec4f863b505","title":"Episode 136: The Coase of Copyright","url":"https://oralargument.org/136","content_text":"With Zahr Said, we discuss what makes creative works similar and the role of the “reader” in constructing a work’s meaning. Christian derails with a James Bond commercial. But we get back on track and talk about paintings, poems, Star Wars, textualism, and the Big Sick.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nZahr Said’s faculty profile and writing\nZahr Said, A Transactional Theory of the Reader in Copyright Law\nJoseph Miller, Hoisting Originality\nAbout Louise Rosenblatt\nOral Argument 132: The Soul of Music (guest Joe Fishman)\nJoseph Fishman, Music as a Matter of Law\nMark A. Lemley, Our Bizarre System for Proving Copyright Infringement\nShyamkrishna Balganesh, The Normativity of Copying in Copyright Law\nLaura Heymann, Reading Together and Apart: Juries, Courts, and Substantial Similarity in Copyright Law\nJacob Lawrence, The Studio\nRebecca Tushnet, Worth a Thousand Words: The Images of Copyright Law\nAdrienne Rich, Turbulence\nThe Big Sick\nSpecial Guest: Zahr Said.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWith Zahr Said, we discuss what makes creative works similar and the role of the “reader” in constructing a work’s meaning. Christian derails with a James Bond commercial. But we get back on track and talk about paintings, poems, Star Wars, textualism, and the Big Sick.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eZahr Said’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.washington.edu/directory/profile.aspx?ID=602\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1030166\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eZahr Said, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2902765\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Transactional Theory of the Reader in Copyright Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Miller, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1778\u0026context=fac_artchop\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHoisting Originality\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Rosenblatt\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout Louise Rosenblatt\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/132\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 132: The Soul of Music\u003c/a\u003e (guest Joe Fishman)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Fishman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2931091\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMusic as a Matter of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark A. Lemley, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1661434\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOur Bizarre System for Proving Copyright Infringement\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eShyamkrishna Balganesh, \u003ca href=\"http://dlj.law.duke.edu/article/the-normativity-of-copying-in-copyright-law/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Normativity of Copying in Copyright Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLaura Heymann, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2958263\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReading Together and Apart: Juries, Courts, and Substantial Similarity in Copyright Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJacob Lawrence, \u003ca href=\"https://www.wikiart.org/en/jacob-lawrence/the-studio-1977\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Studio\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRebecca Tushnet, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/fwps_papers/148/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWorth a Thousand Words: The Images of Copyright Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdrienne Rich, \u003ca href=\"http://wwnorton.tumblr.com/post/11358653379/turbulence-adrienne-rich\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTurbulence\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Sick\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Big Sick\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Zahr Said.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On reading and meaning in copyright law, with Zahr Said.","date_published":"2017-05-26T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/5f7a14c2-9485-4ea7-941b-dec4f863b505.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48074256,"duration_in_seconds":4687}]},{"id":"32e20d9f-aff8-47f4-9d7f-0de20b151575","title":"Episode 135: Alexandria","url":"https://oralargument.org/135","content_text":"Internet, technology, and property scholar James Grimmelmann joins us to discuss, among other things, the fight over the Google Books settlement, modern Libraries of Alexandria, and the nature of the legal academic mission.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJames Grimmelmann’s wesbite (containing links to his scholarship, courses, blog, and more)\nCornell Tech\nJames Somers, Torching the Modern-Day Library of Alexandria\nJames Grimmelmann, Future Conduct and the Limits of Class-Action Settlements\nFor many resources on the Google Books case and settlement, visit the site James and his students created: thepublicindex.org\nAuthors Guild v. Google; Authors Guild v. HathiTrust\nSony Corp. v. Universal Studios\nAbout A\u0026amp;M Records, Inc. v. Napster, Inc.\nVideo from the panel discussion at UC Berkeley’s April 2012 Orphan Works and Mass Digitization Conference\ndiybookscanner.org\nInternet Archive Books\nVernor Vinge, Rainbow’s End\nAbout shotgun sequencing, the DNA sequencing method used by Celera Genomics to sequence the human genome in 2000\nJames Grimmelmann, Scholars, Teachers, and Servants\nNew York Law School’s In re Books Conference\nSpecial Guest: James Grimmelmann.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eInternet, technology, and property scholar James Grimmelmann joins us to discuss, among other things, the fight over the Google Books settlement, modern Libraries of Alexandria, and the nature of the legal academic mission.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Grimmelmann’s \u003ca href=\"http://james.grimmelmann.net\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewesbite\u003c/a\u003e (containing links to his scholarship, courses, blog, and more)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://tech.cornell.edu\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eCornell Tech\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Somers, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/04/the-tragedy-of-google-books/523320/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTorching the Modern-Day Library of Alexandria\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Grimmelmann, \u003ca href=\"http://james.grimmelmann.net/files/articles/future-conduct.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFuture Conduct and the Limits of Class-Action Settlements\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFor many resources on the Google Books case and settlement, visit the site James and his students created: \u003ca href=\"http://www.thepublicindex.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethepublicindex.org\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2220742578695593916\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAuthors Guild v. Google\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4571528653505160061\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAuthors Guild v. HathiTrust\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5876335373788447272\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSony Corp. v. Universal Studios\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%26M_Records,_Inc._v._Napster,_Inc.\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout \u003cem\u003eA\u0026amp;M Records, Inc. v. Napster, Inc.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://archive.org/details/Orphanworksandmassdigitization20120412\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eVideo from the panel discussion\u003c/a\u003e at UC Berkeley’s April 2012 Orphan Works and Mass Digitization Conference\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://diybookscanner.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ediybookscanner.org\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://archive.org/details/internetarchivebooks\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eInternet Archive Books\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eVernor Vinge, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Rainbows-End-Vernor-Vinge/dp/0812536363\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRainbow’s End\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_sequencing\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout shotgun sequencing\u003c/a\u003e, the DNA sequencing method used by Celera Genomics to sequence the human genome in 2000\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Grimmelmann, \u003ca href=\"https://james.grimmelmann.net/files/articles/scholars-teachers-servants.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eScholars, Teachers, and Servants\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNew York Law School’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.nyls.edu/innovation-center-for-law-and-technology/iilp-archive/iilp-conferences/in_re_books/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eIn re Books Conference\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: James Grimmelmann.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the Google Books settlement, with James Grimmelmann.","date_published":"2017-05-13T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/32e20d9f-aff8-47f4-9d7f-0de20b151575.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48831251,"duration_in_seconds":4762}]},{"id":"f20f306c-5aeb-412a-87c2-f12da49b5c08","title":"Episode 134: Crossover","url":"https://oralargument.org/134","content_text":"It’s finally here, the one where we talk with the hosts of the world-famous First Mondays podcast, Ian Samuel and Dan Epps. Topics include physics conundrums, podcasts (05:13), the politics of Supreme Court nominations (27:08), and radically changing the rules governing the Supreme Court’s docket (54:54).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nFirst Mondays\nDan Epps’ faculty profile and writing\nIan Samuel’s faculty profile and writing\nFeynman on mirrors\nRandall Munroe, The Goddamn Airplane on the Goddamn Treadmill\nRandall Munroe, xkcd: 28-Hour Day\nChristian Turner, Podcasts (and somehow this post about Streamers is still online)\nThe Bernie Sanders Show\nChris Guthrie and Tracey George, Remaking the United States Supreme Court in the Courts' of Appeals Image\nWhole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt; Planned Parenthood v. Casey\nNina Martin, The Supreme Court Decision That Made a Mess of Abortion Rights\nBarry Friedman, The Will of the People\nDaniel Epps and William Ortman, The Lottery Docket\nJohn Duffy, The Federal Circuit in the Shadow of the Solicitor General\nWashington Energy Co. v. United States\nOral Argument 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe (background for Joe’s Erie question)\nExpression Hair Design v. Schneiderman; Guido Calabresi, Federal and State Courts: Restoring a Workable Balance\nThe First Mondays Patreon page\nSpecial Guests: Dan Epps and Ian Samuel.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIt’s finally here, the one where we talk with the hosts of the world-famous First Mondays podcast, Ian Samuel and Dan Epps. Topics include physics conundrums, podcasts (05:13), the politics of Supreme Court nominations (27:08), and radically changing the rules governing the Supreme Court’s docket (54:54).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.firstmondays.fm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFirst Mondays\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDan Epps’ \u003ca href=\"http://law.wustl.edu/faculty_profiles/profiles.aspx?id=10752\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=462731\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eIan Samuel’s \u003ca href=\"http://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/directory/11599/Samuel/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=936551\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msN87y-iEx0\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFeynman on mirrors\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRandall Munroe, \u003ca href=\"https://blog.xkcd.com/2008/09/09/the-goddamn-airplane-on-the-goddamn-treadmill/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Goddamn Airplane on the Goddamn Treadmill\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRandall Munroe, \u003ca href=\"https://xkcd.com/320/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003exkcd: 28-Hour Day\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"https://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/1/11/podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePodcasts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and somehow \u003ca href=\"https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14575/streamers\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethis post about Streamers\u003c/a\u003e is still online)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernies-podcast\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Bernie Sanders Show\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChris Guthrie and Tracey George, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1374449\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRemaking the United States Supreme Court in the Courts\u0026#39; of Appeals Image\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12719084930434459940\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6298856056242550994\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlanned Parenthood v. Casey\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNina Martin, \u003ca href=\"http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/supreme-court-decision-mess-abortion-rights\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Supreme Court Decision That Made a Mess of Abortion Rights\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBarry Friedman, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Will_of_the_People.html?id=V004NCn4Vm8C\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Will of the People\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Epps and William Ortman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2928275\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Lottery Docket\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Duffy, \u003ca href=\"http://www.gwlr.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/78-3-Duffy.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Federal Circuit in the Shadow of the Solicitor General\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=297528725569885130\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWashington Energy Co. v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/28\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe\u003c/a\u003e (background for Joe’s \u003cem\u003eErie\u003c/em\u003e question)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-1391_g31i.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eExpression Hair Design v. Schneiderman\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Guido Calabresi, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/fss_papers/2123/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFederal and State Courts: Restoring a Workable Balance\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.patreon.com/firstmondays\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe First Mondays Patreon page\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guests: Dan Epps and Ian Samuel.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the Supreme Court, with Dan Epps and Ian Samuel.","date_published":"2017-05-06T09:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/f20f306c-5aeb-412a-87c2-f12da49b5c08.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":56508902,"duration_in_seconds":5530}]},{"id":"f567dedd-dfdb-4124-b53b-50c5176f729f","title":"Episode 133: Too Many Darn Radio Buttons","url":"https://oralargument.org/133","content_text":"By listening to this podcast YOU AGREE to arbitrate all disputes in Florida and to forego class actions and consequential damages. This week: Jim Gibson on boilerplate terms in contracts. What to do with contract terms that aren’t read?  \n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJim Gibson’s faculty profile and writing\nJames Gibson, Boilerplate's False Dichotomy\nLucian Bebchuk and Richard Posner, One-Sided Contracts in Competitive Consumer Markets\nKarl Llewellyn, Review: The Standardization of Commercial Contracts in English and Continental Law by O. Prausnitz\nProCD v. Zeidenberg\nMargaret Jane Radin, Boilerplate: The Fine Print, Vanishing Rights, and the Rule of Law\nBoilerplate: Foundations of Market Contracts, a Michigan Law Review symposium that includes writing by Omri Ben-Shahar, Margaret Jane Radin, Todd Rakoff, Henry Smith, and many others\nSpecial Guest: Jim Gibson.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eBy listening to this podcast YOU AGREE to arbitrate all disputes in Florida and to forego class actions and consequential damages. This week: Jim Gibson on boilerplate terms in contracts. What to do with contract terms that aren’t read?  \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJim Gibson’s \u003ca href=\"http://law.richmond.edu/faculty/jgibson/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=354288\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Gibson, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2947328\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBoilerplate\u0026#39;s False Dichotomy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLucian Bebchuk and Richard Posner, \u003ca href=\"http://repository.law.umich.edu/mlr/vol104/iss5/1/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOne-Sided Contracts in Competitive Consumer Markets\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKarl Llewellyn, \u003ca href=\"https://www.jstor.org/stable/1334280?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReview: The Standardization of Commercial Contracts in English and Continental Law by O. Prausnitz\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11811009805458694240\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eProCD v. Zeidenberg\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMargaret Jane Radin, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books/about/Boilerplate.html?id=txurzpvKQJoC\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBoilerplate: The Fine Print, Vanishing Rights, and the Rule of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://repository.law.umich.edu/mlr/vol104/iss5/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBoilerplate: Foundations of Market Contracts\u003c/a\u003e, a Michigan Law Review symposium that includes writing by Omri Ben-Shahar, Margaret Jane Radin, Todd Rakoff, Henry Smith, and many others\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Jim Gibson.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On boilerplate contracts, with Jim Gibson.","date_published":"2017-04-28T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/f567dedd-dfdb-4124-b53b-50c5176f729f.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45856716,"duration_in_seconds":4465}]},{"id":"c866a11b-6bfa-4f65-8140-b5034534eab2","title":"Episode 132: The Soul of Music","url":"https://oralargument.org/132","content_text":"What is music? With IP scholar Joe Fishman, we talk about music to work by, whether being unable to imagine doing anything else is a sign you’re doing the right thing, and, mostly, what in music should be protected by copyright. Is the essence of music just melody? And should copyright aim at any such essence? How does our choice about legal protection affect the kind of music people make - and should we worry about that? Why am I asking so many questions? Will these show notes ever end?\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJoseph Fishman’s faculty profile and writing\nJoseph Fishman, Music as a Matter of Law\nAbout Alban Berg (unsurprising that Joe takes a strident and wrong position against both Christian and guest Joe (writing the show notes has fringe benefits))\nLisa Bernstein, Opting out of the Legal System: Extralegal Contractual Relations in the Diamond Industry\nJustice Nelson’s opinions: Hotchkiss v. Greenwood and Jollie v. Jacques\nAbout “rhythm changes” in jazz\nJoseph Miller, Hoisting Originality\nAndres Guadamuz, Is It Time to Examine the Concept of Originality in Musical Works? (discussing cases like the “Blurred Lines” case, Williams v. Gaye (now before the Ninth Circuit), as illuminated by Emma Steel, Original Sin: Reconciling Originality in Copyright with Music as an Evolutionary Art Form (unavailable thanks to copyright law))\nSong Exploder (and the episode on the Moonlight soundtrack)\nSpecial Guest: Joseph Fishman.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhat is music? With IP scholar Joe Fishman, we talk about music to work by, whether being unable to imagine doing anything else is a sign you’re doing the right thing, and, mostly, what in music should be protected by copyright. Is the essence of music just melody? And should copyright aim at any such essence? How does our choice about legal protection affect the kind of music people make - and should we worry about that? Why am I asking so many questions? Will these show notes ever end?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Fishman’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.vanderbilt.edu/bio/joseph-fishman\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1347567\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Fishman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2931091\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMusic as a Matter of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alban_Berg\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout Alban Berg\u003c/a\u003e (unsurprising that Joe takes a strident and wrong position against both Christian and guest Joe (writing the show notes has fringe benefits))\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Bernstein, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/724403.pdf?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOpting out of the Legal System: Extralegal Contractual Relations in the Diamond Industry\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJustice Nelson’s opinions: \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16500126654571728643\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHotchkiss v. Greenwood\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://mcir.usc.edu/cases/Before1900/Pages/jolliejaques.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJollie v. Jacques\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_changes\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout “rhythm changes” in jazz\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Miller, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1778\u0026context=fac_artchop\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHoisting Originality\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAndres Guadamuz, \u003ca href=\"http://ip.jotwell.com/is-it-time-to-examine-the-concept-of-originality-in-musical-works/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs It Time to Examine the Concept of Originality in Musical Works?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (discussing cases like the “Blurred Lines” case, \u003cem\u003eWilliams v. Gaye\u003c/em\u003e (now before the Ninth Circuit), as illuminated by Emma Steel, \u003cem\u003eOriginal Sin: Reconciling Originality in Copyright with Music as an Evolutionary Art Form\u003c/em\u003e (unavailable thanks to copyright law))\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://songexploder.net\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSong Exploder\u003c/a\u003e (and the \u003ca href=\"http://songexploder.net/moonlight\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eepisode on the Moonlight soundtrack\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Joseph Fishman.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On copyright in music, with Joe Fishman.","date_published":"2017-04-21T11:15:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/c866a11b-6bfa-4f65-8140-b5034534eab2.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":43153577,"duration_in_seconds":4195}]},{"id":"2c8a7da3-4d11-478a-8b6f-3c0bca01d546","title":"Episode 131: Because of Sex","url":"https://oralargument.org/131","content_text":"Friend of the show and treasured guest Anthony Kreis returns to talk about important recent developments in legal protection of gay rights. We discuss the recent spate of appellate decisions finding discrimination against gay employees violates the Civil Rights Act, including a remarkable concurrence by Judge Posner. The interesting issue, though, is why.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAnthony Kreis’s faculty profile, his writing, and his twitter feed\nOral Argument 36: Firehose of Equality (Anthony’s last, historic guest appearance on the show)\nAnthony Kreis, Against Gay Potemkin Villages: Title VII and Sexual Orientation Discrimination\nSeventh Circuit, Hively v. Ivy Tech Community College (includes the concurrence of Judge Posner that occupies much of our discussion)\nSecond Circuit, Anonymous v. Omnicom Group\nEleventh Circuit, Evans v. Georgia Regional Hospital\nWilliam Eskridge and John Ferejohn, Super-Statutes\nSpecial Guest: Anthony Kreis.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eFriend of the show and treasured guest Anthony Kreis returns to talk about important recent developments in legal protection of gay rights. We discuss the recent spate of appellate decisions finding discrimination against gay employees violates the Civil Rights Act, including a remarkable concurrence by Judge Posner. The interesting issue, though, is why.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnthony Kreis’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.kentlaw.iit.edu/faculty/full-time-faculty/anthony-michael-kreis\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, his \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=2277553\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e, and his \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/AnthonyMKreis\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003etwitter feed\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/36\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 36: Firehose of Equality\u003c/a\u003e (Anthony’s last, historic guest appearance on the show)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnthony Kreis, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2944046\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAgainst Gay Potemkin Villages: Title VII and Sexual Orientation Discrimination\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSeventh Circuit, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3783878574608367042\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHively v. Ivy Tech Community College\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (includes the concurrence of Judge Posner that occupies much of our discussion)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSecond Circuit, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1449039503425455437\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAnonymous v. Omnicom Group\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEleventh Circuit, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6662354858682210483\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEvans v. Georgia Regional Hospital\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Eskridge and John Ferejohn, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1108\u0026context=dlj\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSuper-Statutes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Anthony Kreis.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On sexual orientation discrimination, with Anthony Kreis.","date_published":"2017-04-14T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/2c8a7da3-4d11-478a-8b6f-3c0bca01d546.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":47338162,"duration_in_seconds":4613}]},{"id":"4b8a01d9-f2fa-4de5-9488-31229dc301b5","title":"Episode 130: Simian Mentation","url":"https://oralargument.org/130","content_text":"Joe and Christian discuss submarine statutes, the essence of decisionmaking, and the problems of complexity and institutional fit. And we discuss some viewer mail: on partisan cooperation between levels of government, Joe’s lack of knitting diligence, and supercomputers.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJessica Bulman-Pozen, Partisan Federalism; Jessica Bulman-Pozen, Unbundling Federalism: Colorado's Legalization of Marijuana and Federalism's Many Forms\nChristian Turner, Submarine Statutes\nHarlan F. Stone, The Common Law in the United States\nMarty Lederman, Why the Strikes Against Syria Probably Violate the U.N. Charter and (Therefore) the U.S. Constitution; Harold Koh, Not Illegal: But Now The Hard Part Begins; Marty Lederman, My Discrete but Important Disagreement with Harold Koh on the Lawfulness of the Strikes on Syria\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe and Christian discuss submarine statutes, the essence of decisionmaking, and the problems of complexity and institutional fit. And we discuss some viewer mail: on partisan cooperation between levels of government, Joe’s lack of knitting diligence, and supercomputers.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJessica Bulman-Pozen, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2291000\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePartisan Federalism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Jessica Bulman-Pozen, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2366388\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnbundling Federalism: Colorado\u0026#39;s Legalization of Marijuana and Federalism\u0026#39;s Many Forms\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2913641\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSubmarine Statutes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHarlan F. Stone, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/1333183?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Common Law in the United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMarty Lederman, \u003ca href=\"https://www.justsecurity.org/39674/syrian-strikes-violate-u-n-charter-constitution/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy the Strikes Against Syria Probably Violate the U.N. Charter and (Therefore) the U.S. Constitution\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Harold Koh, \u003ca href=\"https://www.justsecurity.org/39695/illegal-hard-part-begins/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNot Illegal: But Now The Hard Part Begins\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Marty Lederman, \u003ca href=\"https://www.justsecurity.org/39704/discrete-disagreement-harold-koh-lawfulness-strikes-syria/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMy Discrete but Important Disagreement with Harold Koh on the Lawfulness of the Strikes on Syria\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On submarine statutes.","date_published":"2017-04-07T14:15:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/4b8a01d9-f2fa-4de5-9488-31229dc301b5.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37240785,"duration_in_seconds":4504}]},{"id":"3004412c-ce91-4b78-9d4e-899ce80fab2e","title":"Episode 129: All My Cussin'","url":"https://oralargument.org/129","content_text":"We dig into the mailbag and discuss legal foundations, grammar, the Establishment Clause, LaTex, OralArgCon, and Submarine Statutes, and more. No show notes this week.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe dig into the mailbag and discuss legal foundations, grammar, the Establishment Clause, LaTex, OralArgCon, and Submarine Statutes, and more. No show notes this week.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Into the mailbag.","date_published":"2017-03-31T12:15:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/3004412c-ce91-4b78-9d4e-899ce80fab2e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":38980105,"duration_in_seconds":4722}]},{"id":"f7003650-ff58-4f04-a435-5953cd7b382f","title":"Episode 128: Federalism-palooza","url":"https://oralargument.org/128","content_text":"We talk with federalism scholar Jessica Bulman-Pozen about how things get done in an age of partisan polarization. Executive federalism, the negotiated implementation of policy between the executive branch and states, not only leads to state-differentiated refractions of national policy, but, Jessica argues, is the right form of governance in gridlocked times.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJessica Bulman-Pozen’s faculty profile and writing\nJessica Bulman-Pozen, Unbundling Federalism: Colorado's Legalization of Marijuana and Federalism's Many Forms\nErnest A. Young, Modern-Day Nullification: Marijuana and the Persistence of Federalism in an Age of Overlapping Regulatory Jurisdiction\nJessica Bulman-Pozen, Executive Federalism Comes to America\nJames M. Cole, DOJ Memorandum Guidance Regarding Marijuana Enforcement\nSpecial Guest: Jessica Bulman-Pozen.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk with federalism scholar Jessica Bulman-Pozen about how things get done in an age of partisan polarization. Executive federalism, the negotiated implementation of policy between the executive branch and states, not only leads to state-differentiated refractions of national policy, but, Jessica argues, is the right form of governance in gridlocked times.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJessica Bulman-Pozen’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.columbia.edu/faculty/jessica-bulman-pozen\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=825651\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJessica Bulman-Pozen, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2366388\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnbundling Federalism: Colorado\u0026#39;s Legalization of Marijuana and Federalism\u0026#39;s Many Forms\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eErnest A. Young, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/faculty_scholarship/3540/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eModern-Day Nullification: Marijuana and the Persistence of Federalism in an Age of Overlapping Regulatory Jurisdiction\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJessica Bulman-Pozen, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2687205\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eExecutive Federalism Comes to America\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames M. Cole, \u003ca href=\"https://www.justice.gov/iso/opa/resources/3052013829132756857467.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eDOJ Memorandum Guidance Regarding Marijuana Enforcement\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Jessica Bulman-Pozen.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On polarization and executive federalism, with Jessica Bulman-Pozen.","date_published":"2017-03-17T11:15:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/f7003650-ff58-4f04-a435-5953cd7b382f.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":44915039,"duration_in_seconds":4371}]},{"id":"1466af8d-ecde-4caa-871b-b2b6ff09b11c","title":"Episode 127: I Own My Fist","url":"https://oralargument.org/127","content_text":"When people say they can do whatever they want with their property, what do they mean? With Christopher Newman, we go back to first principles to think about property and copyright in new, and yet old, ways.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nChristopher Newman’s faculty profile and writing\nChristopher Newman, Vested Use-Privileges in Property and Copyright\nWesley Newcomb Hohfeld, Some Fundamental Legal Conceptions as Applied in Judicial Reasoning\nChristian Turner, Legal Theory 101, Reading 3: Hohfeld\nTom Bell and Chris Newman discussing Bell’s book, Intellectual Privilege\nTahoe-Sierra Preservation Council, Inc. v. Tahoe Regional Planning Agency\nLucas v. South Carolina Coastal Council\nEric Claeys, Labor, Exclusion, and Flourishing in Property Law\nFolsom v. Marsh and Sony Corp. v. Universal City Studios\nChristopher Newman, An Exclusive License Is Not an Assignment: Disentangling Divisibility and Transferability of Ownership in Copyright\nSpecial Guest: Christopher Newman.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhen people say they can do whatever they want with their property, what do they mean? With Christopher Newman, we go back to first principles to think about property and copyright in new, and yet old, ways.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher Newman’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.gmu.edu/faculty/directory/fulltime/newman_christopher\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1222496\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher Newman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2897083\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVested Use-Privileges in Property and Copyright\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWesley Newcomb Hohfeld, \u003ca href=\"https://archive.org/details/jstor-785533\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSome Fundamental Legal Conceptions as Applied in Judicial Reasoning\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"https://www.hydratext.com/malt2016/2016/8/14/reading-3-hohfeld\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal Theory 101, Reading 3: Hohfeld\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.cato.org/events/intellectual-privilege\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eTom Bell and Chris Newman discussing\u003c/a\u003e Bell’s book, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=JTanAwAAQBAJ\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIntellectual Privilege\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4226653435664355113\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTahoe-Sierra Preservation Council, Inc. v. Tahoe Regional Planning Agency\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=659168721517750079\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLucas v. South Carolina Coastal Council\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEric Claeys, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2665829\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLabor, Exclusion, and Flourishing in Property Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://h2o.law.harvard.edu/cases/5238\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFolsom v. Marsh\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5876335373788447272\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSony Corp. v. Universal City Studios\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher Newman, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2286833\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAn Exclusive License Is Not an Assignment: Disentangling Divisibility and Transferability of Ownership in Copyright\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Christopher Newman.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On property and copyright, with Christopher Newman.","date_published":"2017-02-24T11:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/1466af8d-ecde-4caa-871b-b2b6ff09b11c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":46917211,"duration_in_seconds":4571}]},{"id":"6a121d20-716e-4bef-9d68-8c383d6033e8","title":"Episode 126: Permanently Banned","url":"https://oralargument.org/126","content_text":"We continue our discussion of the rights of non-citizens, this time with immigration scholar and award-winning fiddle player Jason Cade. We discuss Jason’s latest research into the judicial and administrative responses to  of deportation. (Note that we recorded this a few hours before the 9th Circuit released its decision in Washington v. Trump.)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJason Cade’s faculty profile and writing\nJason Cade, Judging Immigration Equity: Deportation and Proportionality in the Supreme Court\nAbout IIRIRA (the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996)\nAbout AEDPA (the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996)\nJames Fallows, Washington and the Contract with America\nThe White House’s summary of the Constitution and Bill of Rights\nYamataya v. Fisher (The Japanese Immigrant Case)\nArizona v. United States\nFifth Circuit, Texas v. United States\nPadilla v. Kentucky\nFernanda Santos, She Showed Up Yearly to Meet Immigration Agents. Now They’ve Deported Her.\nMichael Wishnie, Immigration Law and the Proportionality Requirement\nOral Argument 125: The Elephant\nWashington v. Trump (released a few hours after this recording)\nHog-eyed Man\nSpecial Guest: Jason Cade.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe continue our discussion of the rights of non-citizens, this time with immigration scholar and award-winning fiddle player Jason Cade. We discuss Jason’s latest research into the judicial and administrative responses to  of deportation. (Note that we recorded this a few hours before the 9th Circuit released its decision in Washington v. Trump.)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJason Cade’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/jason-cade\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1690889\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJason Cade, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2834088\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJudging Immigration Equity: Deportation and Proportionality in the Supreme Court\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_Immigration_Reform_and_Immigrant_Responsibility_Act_of_1996\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout IIRIRA (the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiterrorism_and_Effective_Death_Penalty_Act_of_1996\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout AEDPA (the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Fallows, \u003ca href=\"http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/unbound/jfnpr/jfreview.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWashington and the Contract with America\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe White House’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/1600/constitution\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003esummary of the Constitution and Bill of Rights\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=18003046466828127036\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eYamataya v. Fisher\u003c/em\u003e (The Japanese Immigrant Case)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17891750818453472454\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eArizona v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFifth Circuit, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11729216214209225109\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTexas v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16837631125059475725\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePadilla v. Kentucky\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFernanda Santos, \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/us/phoenix-guadalupe-garcia-de-rayos.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShe Showed Up Yearly to Meet Immigration Agents. Now They’ve Deported Her.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Wishnie, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/fss_papers/4138/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eImmigration Law and the Proportionality Requirement\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/125\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 125: The Elephant\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/02/09/17-35105.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWashington v. Trump\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (released a few hours after this recording)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.hogeyedman.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eHog-eyed Man\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Jason Cade.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On immigration law, with Jason Cade.","date_published":"2017-02-10T12:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/6a121d20-716e-4bef-9d68-8c383d6033e8.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45941474,"duration_in_seconds":4473}]},{"id":"3c3a089e-080b-43e4-a6e0-805cc84b1bd7","title":"Episode 125: The Elephant","url":"https://oralargument.org/125","content_text":"Steve Vladeck returns to the show to talk with us about Due Process and immigration, Trump’s Executive Order on Muslim immigration, and the role of courts in war and quasi-war.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSteve Vladeck’s faculty profile and writing\nThe National Security Law Podcast\nSteve Vladeck, The Supreme Court, the Trump Transition, and the Future of the Constitutional “Border” (a concise overview of the Supreme Court cases under discussion, also contains links to SCOTUSblog pages where you can find briefs)\nThe Immigration Executive Order with annotations by NPR reporters\nSteve Vladeck, The Airport Cases: What Happened, and What’s Next?\nBenjamin Wittes, Malevolence Tempered by Incompetence: Trump’s Horrifying Executive Order on Refugees and Visas\nACLU’s compendium of documents in Loughalam v. Trump (the Boston case)\nTuaua v. United States\nBoumediene v. Bush\nStephen Vladeck, The Suspension Clause as a Structural Right\nThe Obama White House Report on the Legal and Policy Frameworks Guiding the United States’ Use of Military Force and Related National Security Operations; see also commentary from Marty Lederman\nAl-Aulaqi v. Obama (against the targeting) and Al-Aulaqi v. Panetta (Bivens claim)\nIn re Territo\nLebron v. Rumsfeld (Wilkinson) and Al Shimari v. CACI Premier Tech. (the Abu Ghraib case)\nUnited States v. Verdugo-Urquidez\nDavid Frum, How to Build an Autocracy\nSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eSteve Vladeck returns to the show to talk with us about Due Process and immigration, Trump’s Executive Order on Muslim immigration, and the role of courts in war and quasi-war.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/siv245/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=362455\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.nationalsecuritylawpodcast.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe National Security Law Podcast\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"https://www.justsecurity.org/36234/border/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Supreme Court, the Trump Transition, and the Future of the Constitutional “Border”\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a concise overview of the Supreme Court cases under discussion, also contains links to SCOTUSblog pages where you can find briefs)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2017/01/31/512439121/trumps-executive-order-on-immigration-annotated\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Immigration Executive Order\u003c/a\u003e with annotations by NPR reporters\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"https://www.justsecurity.org/36960/stock-weekends-district-court-orders-immigration-eo/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Airport Cases: What Happened, and What’s Next?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBenjamin Wittes, \u003ca href=\"https://lawfareblog.com/malevolence-tempered-incompetence-trumps-horrifying-executive-order-refugees-and-visas\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMalevolence Tempered by Incompetence: Trump’s Horrifying Executive Order on Refugees and Visas\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eACLU’s compendium of documents in \u003ca href=\"https://aclum.org/cases-briefs/louhghalam-v-trump/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLoughalam v. Trump\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the Boston case)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14728241865713760068\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTuaua v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2483936489630436485\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBoumediene v. Bush\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1020265\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Suspension Clause as a Structural Right\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe Obama White House \u003ca href=\"https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/documents/Legal_Policy_Report.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReport on the Legal and Policy Frameworks Guiding the United States’ Use of Military Force and Related National Security Operations\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"https://www.justsecurity.org/35239/president-obamas-report-legal-policy-frameworks-guiding-united-states-military-force-related-national-security-operations/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ecommentary from Marty Lederman\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1758537122087571034\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAl-Aulaqi v. Obama\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (against the targeting) and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10730664581031404447\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAl-Aulaqi v. Panetta\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Bivens claim)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=18125308868589836596\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eIn re \u003cem\u003eTerrito\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10647104112426887557\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLebron v. Rumsfeld\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Wilkinson) and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8123144860034346802\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAl Shimari v. CACI Premier Tech.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the Abu Ghraib case)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10167007390100843851\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Verdugo-Urquidez\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Frum, \u003ca href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/03/how-to-build-an-autocracy/513872/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow to Build an Autocracy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the rights of non-citizens, with Steve Vladeck.","date_published":"2017-02-03T11:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/3c3a089e-080b-43e4-a6e0-805cc84b1bd7.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":42658937,"duration_in_seconds":4145}]},{"id":"59fbc9a9-9678-45f5-8b96-0fd273a3ff4e","title":"Episode 124: Sung Hero","url":"https://oralargument.org/124","content_text":"Just Christian and Joe talking a little about the outrageous first week of the new administration (refugees, emoluments, Russia, and more) and then opening up the mailbag. Nixonian firings, self-driving cars, and more. No other show notes this week!","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJust Christian and Joe talking a little about the outrageous first week of the new administration (refugees, emoluments, Russia, and more) and then opening up the mailbag. Nixonian firings, self-driving cars, and more. No other show notes this week!\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Topics of the day and mailbag.","date_published":"2017-01-28T20:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/59fbc9a9-9678-45f5-8b96-0fd273a3ff4e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40422229,"duration_in_seconds":4902}]},{"id":"f034c9cf-03db-47dd-9178-9163d8f00067","title":"Episode 123: Cruising Altitude","url":"https://oralargument.org/123","content_text":"Mike Madison is back to talk with us about knowledge commons, institutions, open-source software, citizen science, and the the basic problem of understanding how we cooperate.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMike Madison’s website, writing, and blog\nOral Argument 90: We Are a Nation of Time-Shifters?\nMichael Madison, Information Abundance and Knowledge Commons\nAbout the institutional analysis and development framework\nElinor Ostrom, The Institutional Analysis and Development Framework and the Commons\nGoverning Knowledge Commons (Brett Frischmann, Michael Madison, and Katherine Strandburg, eds.)\nThe Knowlege Commons Research Framework\nWorkshop on Governing the Knowledge Commons\nChristine Borgman, Big Data, Little Data, No Data\nMatthys Levy, Why Buildings Fall Down: How Structures Fail\nSpecial Guest: Mike Madison.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eMike Madison is back to talk with us about knowledge commons, institutions, open-source software, citizen science, and the the basic problem of understanding how we cooperate.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMike Madison’s \u003ca href=\"http://madisonian.net/home/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewebsite\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://madisonian.net/home/?page_id=85\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://madisonian.net\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eblog\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/90\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 90: We Are a Nation of Time-Shifters?\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Madison, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2867578\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInformation Abundance and Knowledge Commons\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_analysis_and_development_framework\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout the institutional analysis and development framework\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eElinor Ostrom, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3170\u0026context=clr\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Institutional Analysis and Development Framework and the Commons\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://knowledge-commons.net/publications/gkc/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGoverning Knowledge Commons\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Brett Frischmann, Michael Madison, and Katherine Strandburg, eds.)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://knowledge-commons.net/publications/gkc/research-framework/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Knowlege Commons Research Framework\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://knowledge-commons.net\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eWorkshop on Governing the Knowledge Commons\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristine Borgman, \u003ca href=\"https://mitpress.mit.edu/big-data-little-data-no-data\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBig Data, Little Data, No Data\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthys Levy, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Why-Buildings-Fall-Down-Structures/dp/039331152X\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Buildings Fall Down: How Structures Fail\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Mike Madison.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On governing knowledge commons, with Mike Madison.","date_published":"2017-01-13T14:45:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/f034c9cf-03db-47dd-9178-9163d8f00067.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37790663,"duration_in_seconds":4573}]},{"id":"a89ca2f2-ea69-4e7e-b902-891dc1d68797","title":"Episode 122: Choose Your Own Adventure","url":"https://oralargument.org/122","content_text":"Jeremy Sheff joins us to discuss a successful project to create a free and open Property Law casebook. Students of the world unite! You have only your restrictive licenses to lose. (Jeremy worked on this project with the incomparable Stephen Clowney, James Grimmelmann, Michael Grynberg, and Rebecca Tushnet.)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJeremy Sheff’s faculty profile, website, and writing\nOpen Source Property: A Free Casebook\nOral Argument 20: Twelve Billion Dollars (the one about casebooks)\nSpecial Guest: Jeremy Sheff.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJeremy Sheff joins us to discuss a successful project to create a free and open Property Law casebook. Students of the world unite! You have only your restrictive licenses to lose. (Jeremy worked on this project with the incomparable Stephen Clowney, James Grimmelmann, Michael Grynberg, and Rebecca Tushnet.)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeremy Sheff’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.stjohns.edu/academics/bio/jeremy-sheff\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://jeremysheff.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewebsite\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=589465\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://opensourceproperty.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOpen Source Property: A Free Casebook\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/20\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 20: Twelve Billion Dollars\u003c/a\u003e (the one about casebooks)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Jeremy Sheff.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On open-source casebooks, with Jeremy Sheff.","date_published":"2016-12-30T13:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/a89ca2f2-ea69-4e7e-b902-891dc1d68797.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":33317056,"duration_in_seconds":4014}]},{"id":"68939530-8a0f-4d9b-943a-3bcddc3f0971","title":"Episode 121: 90,000 Local Governments","url":"https://oralargument.org/121","content_text":"Home for the holidays, back in Oral Argument World Headquarters, with property, land use, and local government law scholar Nestor Davidson. We discuss the fascinating, important, and under-theorized world of the thousands of local “administrative states” that shape our everyday lives.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nNestor Davidson’s faculty profile and writing\nOral Argument 23: Rex Sunstein (guest Ethan Leib) (discussing Nestor Davidson and Ethan Leib, Regleprudence – at OIRA and Beyond) \nNestor Davidson, Localist Administrative Law\nN.Y. Statewide Coalition of Hispanic Chambers of Commerce v. N.Y.C. Dep’t of Health \u0026amp; Mental Hygiene\nKosalka v. Town of Georgetown\nAaron Saiger, Local Government as a Choice of Agency Forum\nCarol Rose, Planning and Dealing: Piecemeal Land Controls as a Problem of Local Legitimacy\nSpecial Guest: Nestor Davidson.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eHome for the holidays, back in Oral Argument World Headquarters, with property, land use, and local government law scholar Nestor Davidson. We discuss the fascinating, important, and under-theorized world of the thousands of local “administrative states” that shape our everyday lives.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNestor Davidson’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.fordham.edu/info/23127/nestor_m_davidson\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=479785\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/23\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 23: Rex Sunstein\u003c/a\u003e (guest Ethan Leib) (discussing Nestor Davidson and Ethan Leib, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2442413\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRegleprudence – at OIRA and Beyond\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e) \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNestor Davidson, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2867595\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLocalist Administrative Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.nycourts.gov/ctapps/Decisions/2014/Jun14/134opn14-Decision.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eN.Y. Statewide Coalition of Hispanic Chambers of Commerce v. N.Y.C. Dep’t of Health \u0026amp; Mental Hygiene\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13209939354817730536\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKosalka v. Town of Georgetown\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAaron Saiger, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2802646\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLocal Government as a Choice of Agency Forum\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCarol Rose, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2832\u0026context=fss_papers\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlanning and Dealing: Piecemeal Land Controls as a Problem of Local Legitimacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Nestor Davidson.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the local administrative state, with Nestor Davidson.","date_published":"2016-12-23T12:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/68939530-8a0f-4d9b-943a-3bcddc3f0971.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":35256676,"duration_in_seconds":3405}]},{"id":"d3852a41-ad2f-4a58-9a6a-90e8d3a655ce","title":"Episode 120: Unbound","url":"https://oralargument.org/120","content_text":"In our remote recording location and with returning election-law expert Lori Ringhand, we talk about the election. The electoral college, the moral and legal roles of electors, disputed elections in the House, crises, civil wars. Oh my. (Back in OA World Headquarters for next week’s show.)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nLori Ringhand’s faculty profile and writing\nThe Twelfth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (including a link to some superseding language of the Twentieth Amendment)\nAlexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 68\nRick Hasen’s link to California’s brief against unbinding California’s Electors\nGeoffrey Stone, Electors Against Trump Are Faithful Not Faithless\nLawrence Lessig, The Constitution lets the electoral college choose the winner. They should choose Clinton.; Orin Kerr, The Electoral College Shouldn’t Choose Clinton: A Response to Lessig; Lawrence Lessig, A Response to Professor Kerr; Orin Kerr, A Reply to Professor Lessig on the Electoral College\nRick Hasen, Lessig Urges Faithless Electors Vote for Clinton, Pointing to Popular Vote in a Contest Not Based on Popular Vote; Lawrence Lessig, Rick Hasen: “But Not to Ignore It…”: What Is “It”?; Mike Parsons, On “Hamilton Electors” and the Lessig/Hasen Debate\nLawrence Lessig, The Equal Protection Argument Against “Winner Take All” in the Electoral College; Lawrence Lessig, On the Equal Protect Clause Argument and the National Popular Vote Project\nDahlia Lithwick and David Cohen, Buck Up, Democrats, and Fight Like Republicans\nDavid Corn, A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump\nJohn Broich, How US Journalists Normalized the Rise of Hitler and Mussolini (citing Dorothy Thompson’s 1935 observation: “No people ever recognize their dictator in advance.”)\nSpecial Guest: Lori Ringhand.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIn our remote recording location and with returning election-law expert Lori Ringhand, we talk about the election. The electoral college, the moral and legal roles of electors, disputed elections in the House, crises, civil wars. Oh my. (Back in OA World Headquarters for next week’s show.)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLori Ringhand’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/lori-ringhand\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=332414\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/amend1.asp#12\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Twelfth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution\u003c/a\u003e (including a link to some superseding language of the Twentieth Amendment)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlexander Hamilton, \u003ca href=\"http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFederalist No. 68\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRick Hasen’s \u003ca href=\"http://electionlawblog.org/?p=89979\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003elink to California’s brief against unbinding California’s Electors\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGeoffrey Stone, \u003ca href=\"http://time.com/4597387/faithless-electors-donald-trump/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eElectors Against Trump Are Faithful Not Faithless\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Lessig, \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-constitution-lets-the-electoral-college-choose-the-winner-they-should-choose-clinton/2016/11/24/0f431828-b0f7-11e6-8616-52b15787add0_story.html?utm_term=.a63723e54c11\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Constitution lets the electoral college choose the winner. They should choose Clinton.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Orin Kerr, \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/11/25/the-electoral-college-shouldnt-choose-clinton-a-response-to-lessig/?utm_term=.e20924ee8ab4\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Electoral College Shouldn’t Choose Clinton: A Response to Lessig\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Lawrence Lessig, \u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/equal-citizens/a-response-to-professor-kerr-657e3d9147d2#.320laj58w\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Response to Professor Kerr\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Orin Kerr, \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/12/01/a-reply-to-professor-lessig-on-the-electoral-college/?utm_term=.3016b02fb393\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Reply to Professor Lessig on the Electoral College\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRick Hasen, \u003ca href=\"https://electionlawblog.org/?p=89486\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLessig Urges Faithless Electors Vote for Clinton, Pointing to Popular Vote in a Contest Not Based on Popular Vote\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Lawrence Lessig, \u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/equal-citizens/rick-hasen-but-not-to-ignore-it-what-is-it-59aaf4f0f0a3#.fxivalmbe\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRick Hasen: “But Not to Ignore It…”: What Is “It”?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Mike Parsons, \u003ca href=\"https://moderndemocracyblog.com/2016/12/03/on-hamilton-electors-and-the-lessighasen-debate/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOn “Hamilton Electors” and the Lessig/Hasen Debate\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Lessig, \u003ca href=\"http://billmoyers.com/story/equal-protection-argument-winner-take-electoral-college/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Equal Protection Argument Against “Winner Take All” in the Electoral College\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Lawrence Lessig, \u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/equal-citizens/on-the-equal-protect-clause-argument-and-the-national-popular-vote-project-f4d75901151b#.kzkrq46f4\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOn the Equal Protect Clause Argument and the National Popular Vote Project\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick and David Cohen, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/14/opinion/buck-up-democrats-and-fight-like-republicans.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBuck Up, Democrats, and Fight Like Republicans\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Corn, \u003ca href=\"http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Broich, \u003ca href=\"http://www.pri.org/stories/2016-12-13/how-us-journalists-normalized-rise-hitler-and-mussolini-0\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow US Journalists Normalized the Rise of Hitler and Mussolini\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (citing Dorothy Thompson’s 1935 observation: “No people ever recognize their dictator in advance.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Lori Ringhand.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the Electors, with Lori Ringhand.","date_published":"2016-12-16T15:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/d3852a41-ad2f-4a58-9a6a-90e8d3a655ce.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":52154179,"duration_in_seconds":5095}]},{"id":"1a57ae55-9dd2-4a11-94fd-cb332f8a5a74","title":"Episode 119: Consistently Inconsistent","url":"https://oralargument.org/119","content_text":"In an alternate studio, with alternate equipment and chairs, striving to get back in the groove, blowing out the rust, we make our return to the interweb-waves. (Please forgive some of the audio dips and quiet portions.) No particular agenda, but we wind up responding to some long-ago feedback about the stagecraft of judicial proceedings.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nFirst Mondays\nOral Argument 79: He Said It Peabody Well\nThe Supreme Court of the UK\nJay Wexler’s SCOTUS Humor\nOral Argument 31: Knee Defender\nPlato, The Republic and, yep, r/plato\nTexas v. Johnson\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIn an alternate studio, with alternate equipment and chairs, striving to get back in the groove, blowing out the rust, we make our return to the interweb-waves. (Please forgive some of the audio dips and quiet portions.) No particular agenda, but we wind up responding to some long-ago feedback about the stagecraft of judicial proceedings.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.firstmondays.fm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFirst Mondays\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/79\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 79: He Said It Peabody Well\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.uk/index.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Supreme Court of the UK\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJay Wexler’s \u003ca href=\"http://jaywex.com/wordpress/scotus-humor/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSCOTUS Humor\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/31\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 31: Knee Defender\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePlato, \u003ca href=\"http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Republic\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and, yep, \u003ca href=\"https://www.reddit.com/r/Plato/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003er/plato\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2084618710761560217\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTexas v. Johnson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Courtroom stagecraft and roles.","date_published":"2016-12-09T15:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/1a57ae55-9dd2-4a11-94fd-cb332f8a5a74.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37373029,"duration_in_seconds":3617}]},{"id":"dcb1e3cd-4923-4024-9b78-f6690a9c9447","title":"Episode 118: Harmonization Costs","url":"https://oralargument.org/118","content_text":"And now for something completely different. Not being up to talking again about current events, we have a great chat with David Ziff, who has bravely and beautifully written in defense of the Bluebook. Once again, we do battle over legal citation.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDavid Ziff’s faculty profile and writing\nPolitically Re-Active, Facing the Future with CNN’s Jake Tapper\nDavid Ziff, The Worst System of Citation Except for All the Others\nOral Argument 91: Baby Blue (guest Chris Sprigman) and Oral Argument 88: The Blue Line\nBrian Garner, The Bluebook's 20th Edition Prompts Many Musings from Bryan Garner\nRockwell Graphic Systems v. DEV Industries\nSpecial Guest: David Ziff.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAnd now for something completely different. Not being up to talking again about current events, we have a great chat with David Ziff, who has bravely and beautifully written in defense of the Bluebook. Once again, we do battle over legal citation.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Ziff’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.washington.edu/Directory/Profile.aspx?ID=735\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1883094\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePolitically Re-Active, \u003ca href=\"https://www.politicallyreactive.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFacing the Future with CNN’s Jake Tapper\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Ziff, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2862090\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Worst System of Citation Except for All the Others\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/91\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 91: Baby Blue\u003c/a\u003e (guest Chris Sprigman) and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/88\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 88: The Blue Line\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrian Garner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/the_bluebooks_20th_edition_prompts_many_musings_from_bryan_garner/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Bluebook\u0026#39;s 20th Edition Prompts Many Musings from Bryan Garner\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8375761695741205920\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRockwell Graphic Systems v. DEV Industries\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: David Ziff.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"David Ziff defends the Bluebook.","date_published":"2016-11-19T12:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/dcb1e3cd-4923-4024-9b78-f6690a9c9447.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":41491030,"duration_in_seconds":4028}]},{"id":"27cae304-c97a-4c76-92fa-8daf27ad2e8e","title":"Episode 117: Coarsening","url":"https://oralargument.org/117","content_text":"The election. And then viewer mail on media for scholarship and ideas, suspense and emotional salience in judicial opinions, and a little more.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOral Argument 106: Legal Asteroid\nRobert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons\nDavid Souter on the Danger of America’s “pervasive civic ignorance” (video)\nOral Argument 105: Bismarck’s Raw Material (guest Tim Meyer)\nOral Argument 112: Quasi-Narrative (guest Simon Stern)\nPopov v. Hayashi\nOyez page for NFIB v. Sebelius (select Opinion Announcement, part 1, for the relevant portion of the hand-down)\nOral Argument 113: The Entrails of Fowl (guest Charles Barzun)\nPaul Horwitz, On “The Troublesome Use of Photographs . . . and Other Images” in Federal Court Opinions\nBlackmun’s dissent in DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services\nJamal Greene, Pathetic Arguments in Constitutional Law\nThe Oral Argument Index\nDavid Ziff, The Worst System of Citation Except for All the Others\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThe election. And then viewer mail on media for scholarship and ideas, suspense and emotional salience in judicial opinions, and a little more.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/106\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 106: Legal Asteroid\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRobert Bolt, \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Man_for_All_Seasons\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Man for All Seasons\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Souter on \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWcVtWennr0\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethe Danger of America’s “pervasive civic ignorance” (video)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/105\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 105: Bismarck’s Raw Material (guest Tim Meyer)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/112\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 112: Quasi-Narrative (guest Simon Stern)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/bonds/popovhayashi121802dec.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePopov v. Hayashi\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.oyez.org/cases/2011/11-393\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOyez page for \u003cem\u003eNFIB v. Sebelius\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (select Opinion Announcement, part 1, for the relevant portion of the hand-down)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/113\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 113: The Entrails of Fowl (guest Charles Barzun)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Horwitz, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2016/10/on-the-troublesome-use-of-photographs-and-other-images-in-federal-court-opinions.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOn “The Troublesome Use of Photographs . . . and Other Images” in Federal Court Opinions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/489/189#writing-USSC_CR_0489_0189_ZD1\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBlackmun’s dissent in \u003cem\u003eDeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJamal Greene, \u003ca href=\"http://columbialawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Greene-J..pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePathetic Arguments in Constitutional Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/oralargumentindex/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Oral Argument Index\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Ziff, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2862090\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Worst System of Citation Except for All the Others\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The election and viewer mail.","date_published":"2016-11-11T13:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/27cae304-c97a-4c76-92fa-8daf27ad2e8e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":33141382,"duration_in_seconds":3992}]},{"id":"1aee15a1-3e15-44ce-b2e6-44666505c2b5","title":"Episode 116: Co-Authorial Privilege","url":"https://oralargument.org/116","content_text":"We’ve been asking for a true originalist to take us to the woodshed for all our prior doubts and dismissiveness of originalism as a method of interpretation. Enter Will Baude. \n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nWilliam Baude’s faculty profile and writing\nAbout Ben Linus\nFirst Mondays\nLegal Theory 101 (and corresponding blog post)\nWilliam Baude and Stephen Sachs, Originalism’s Bite\nWilliam Baude and Stephen Sachs, The Law of Interpretation\nWilliam Baude, Is Originalism Our Law?\nOral Argument 113: The Entrails of Fowl (guest Charles Barzun)\nLawrence Solum, Semantic Originalism\nStephen Sachs, Originalism as a Theory of Legal Change\nRichard Re, Promising the Constitution\nTwo debates about interpretation between Justices Breyer and Scalia: Annenberg Classroom and a joint Federalist Society and ACS event\nRichard Posner, Supreme Court Breakfast Table Entry 27: Broad Interpretations\nRadiolab Presents: More Perfect, The Political Thicket\nMary Sarah Bilder, Madison’s Hand: Revising the Constitutional Convention; see also a conversation with Bilder at the National Constitution Center\nSpecial Guest: William Baude.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe’ve been asking for a true originalist to take us to the woodshed for all our prior doubts and dismissiveness of originalism as a method of interpretation. Enter Will Baude. \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Baude’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/baude\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=398074\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Linus\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout Ben Linus\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.firstmondays.fm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFirst Mondays\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/legal-theory-101/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eLegal Theory 101\u003c/a\u003e (and \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2016/11/2/legal-theory-101\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ecorresponding blog post\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Baude and Stephen Sachs, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2851986\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOriginalism’s Bite\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Baude and Stephen Sachs, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2783398\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Law of Interpretation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Baude, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2672631\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs Originalism Our Law?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/113\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument 113: The Entrails of Fowl\u003c/a\u003e (guest Charles Barzun)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Solum, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1120244\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSemantic Originalism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Sachs, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6059\u0026context=faculty_scholarship\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOriginalism as a Theory of Legal Change\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Re, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1230\u0026context=nulr\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePromising the Constitution\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTwo debates about interpretation between Justices Breyer and Scalia: \u003ca href=\"http://www.annenbergclassroom.org/page/a-conversation-on-the-constitution-judicial-interpretation\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAnnenberg Classroom\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4n8gOUzZ8I\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ea joint Federalist Society and ACS event\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Posner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_breakfast_table/features/2016/supreme_court_breakfast_table_for_june_2016/richard_posner_clarifies_his_views_on_the_constitution.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSupreme Court Breakfast Table Entry 27: \u003cem\u003eBroad Interpretations\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRadiolab Presents: More Perfect, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wnyc.org/story/the-political-thicket\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Political Thicket\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMary Sarah Bilder, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Madisons-Hand-Revising-Constitutional-Convention/dp/0674055276\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMadison’s Hand: Revising the Constitutional Convention\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"https://www.c-span.org/video/?401572-3/madisons-hand\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ea conversation with Bilder at the National Constitution Center\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: William Baude.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On originalism, with Will Baude.","date_published":"2016-11-04T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/1aee15a1-3e15-44ce-b2e6-44666505c2b5.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48404623,"duration_in_seconds":4720}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5812c577ebbd1a7bb49f85ef","title":"Episode 115: Gonna Work? (Live at the Tech Law Institute)","url":"https://oralargument.org/115","content_text":"We made a return to the annual Tech Law Institute meeting in Atlanta and recorded a live episode about self-driving cars. We talked optimism, pessimism, political valence, regulatory challenges, federalism, trolley problems, and more.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOral Argument 80: We’ll Do It LIVE!\nNHTSA, Federal Automated Vehicles Policy\nRAND, Autonomous Vehicle Technology: A Guide for Policymakers\nDuncan Black, some posts on self-driving cars: Not Gonna Work, No One Will Listen to Me, Spot the Key Phrase, \"the revolutionary transportation technology”….\nChris Martin and Joe Ryan, Super-Cheap Driverless Cabs to Kick Mass Transit to the Curb\nTesla, All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware (announcement includes a vide demonstration)\nAbout Tesla’s Autopilot feature (also Tesla’s page on Autopilot)\nAlex Davies, Everyone Wants a Level 5 Self-Driving Car – Here’s What That Means\nOral Argument 102: Precautionary Federalism (guest Sarah Light)\nMichael Dorf, Should Self-Driving Cars Be Mandatory?\nOral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo)\nOral Argument 70: No Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale)\nAbout trolley problems\nMegan Barber, Who Should Driverless Cars Save: Pedestrians or Passengers?\nFrank Pasquale, Get off the Trolley Problem\nJules Coleman and William Holahan, Review of Guido Calabresi and Philip Bobbitt’s Tragic Choices\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe made a return to the annual Tech Law Institute meeting in Atlanta and recorded a live episode about self-driving cars. We talked optimism, pessimism, political valence, regulatory challenges, federalism, trolley problems, and more.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/80\"\u003eOral Argument 80: We’ll Do It LIVE!\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNHTSA, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nhtsa.gov/nhtsa/av/index.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFederal Automated Vehicles Policy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRAND, \u003ca href=\"http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR443-2.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAutonomous Vehicle Technology: A Guide for Policymakers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDuncan Black, some posts on self-driving cars: \u003ca href=\"http://www.eschatonblog.com/2016/10/not-gonna-work.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNot Gonna Work\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.eschatonblog.com/2016/06/no-one-will-listen-to-me.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNo One Will Listen to Me\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.eschatonblog.com/2016/08/spot-key-phrase.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSpot the Key Phrase\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.eschatonblog.com/2016/09/the-revolutionary-transportation.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e\"the revolutionary transportation technology”….\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChris Martin and Joe Ryan, \u003ca href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-24/super-cheap-driverless-taxis-may-kick-mass-transit-to-the-curb\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSuper-Cheap Driverless Cabs to Kick Mass Transit to the Curb\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTesla, \u003ca href=\"https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now-have-full-self-driving-hardware/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAll Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (announcement includes a vide demonstration)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot\"\u003eAbout Tesla’s Autopilot feature\u003c/a\u003e (also \u003ca href=\"https://www.tesla.com/autopilot\"\u003eTesla’s page on Autopilot\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlex Davies, \u003ca href=\"https://www.wired.com/2016/08/self-driving-car-levels-sae-nhtsa/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEveryone Wants a Level 5 Self-Driving Car – Here’s What That Means\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/102\"\u003eOral Argument 102: Precautionary Federalism (guest Sarah Light)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"https://verdict.justia.com/2016/10/05/self-driving-cars-mandatory\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShould Self-Driving Cars Be Mandatory?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/41\"\u003eOral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/70\"\u003eOral Argument 70: No Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem\"\u003eAbout trolley problems\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMegan Barber, \u003ca href=\"http://www.curbed.com/2016/10/18/13313282/driverless-cars-safety-mercedes-pedestrian\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWho Should Driverless Cars Save: Pedestrians or Passengers?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Pasquale, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2016/10/self_driving_cars_shouldn_t_have_to_choose_who_to_protect_in_a_crash.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGet off the Trolley Problem\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJules Coleman and William Holahan, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5209\u0026amp;context=fss_papers\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReview of Guido Calabresi and Philip Bobbitt’s Tragic Choices\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Live, talking self-driving cars.","date_published":"2016-10-28T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/f75634a2-0d80-40d9-9170-f6809e8950d0.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":36927008,"duration_in_seconds":3572}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:58090f5fd482e9d2da29238c","title":"Episode 114: Tort Festivity","url":"https://oralargument.org/114","content_text":"Causation and responsibility are interrelated, crucial, and yet puzzling concepts in law. With tort scholar Shahar Dillbary, we explore situations in which spectators “cause” accidents in a drag race that they merely witness and in which the more tortfeasors there are, the better. Also, burning Christian’s car and an update on Joe’s recent cold.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nShahar Dillbary’s faculty profile and writing\nThe Election Profit-Makers Podcast\nShahar Dillbary, Causation Actually\nAbout the Learned Hand formula for negligence\nShahar Dillbary, Tortfest\nSpecial Guest: Shahar Dillbary.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eCausation and responsibility are interrelated, crucial, and yet puzzling concepts in law. With tort scholar Shahar Dillbary, we explore situations in which spectators “cause” accidents in a drag race that they merely witness and in which the more tortfeasors there are, the better. Also, burning Christian’s car and an update on Joe’s recent cold.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eShahar Dillbary’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.ua.edu/directory/People/view/John_Shahar_Dillbary\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=346000\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.electionprofitmakers.com\"\u003eElection Profit-Makers\u003c/a\u003e Podcast\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eShahar Dillbary, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2729476\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCausation Actually\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculus_of_negligence\"\u003ethe Learned Hand formula for negligence\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eShahar Dillbary, \u003ca href=\"https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2050999\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTortfest\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Shahar Dillbary.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Torts and causation, with Shahar Dillbary","date_published":"2016-10-20T14:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/5b4a2c06-2306-4aab-a3db-407f7564eb47.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":34305372,"duration_in_seconds":4137}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:57efd25120099ef24d1a37d5","title":"Episode 113: The Entrails of Fowl","url":"https://oralargument.org/113","content_text":"Is originalism required by our law? We chat with Charles Barzun about his critique of the inclusive originalists, the new movement to claim that an originalist interpretive method is not only a good choice among possible methods but is the method which is mandated by a positivist approach to our law.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nCharles Barzun’s faculty profile and writing\nCharles Barzun, The Positive U-Turn\nWilliam Baude and Stephen Sachs, The Law of Interpretation\nWilliam Baude, Is Originalism Our Law?\nOral Argument 98: T3 Jedi (guests Jeremy Kessler and David Pozen)\nScott Shapiro, Legality (Amazon and Google Books)\nBrown v. Board of Education; Jack Balkin and Bruce Ackerman (eds.), What Brown v. Board of Education Should Have Said\nCharles Barzun, Inside/Out: Beyond the Internal/External Distinction in Legal Scholarship\nOral Argument 77: Jackasses Are People Too (guest Adam Kolber)\nSpecial Guest: Charles Barzun.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIs originalism required by our law? We chat with Charles Barzun about his critique of the inclusive originalists, the new movement to claim that an originalist interpretive method is not only a good choice among possible methods but is the method which is mandated by a positivist approach to our law.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Barzun’s \u003ca href=\"https://content.law.virginia.edu/faculty/profile/clb6x/1144315\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=546584\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Barzun, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2832957\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Positive U-Turn\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Baude and Stephen Sachs, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2783398\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Law of Interpretation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Baude, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2672631\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs Originalism Our Law?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/98\"\u003eOral Argument 98: T3 Jedi\u003c/a\u003e (guests Jeremy Kessler and David Pozen)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Shapiro, \u003cem\u003eLegality\u003c/em\u003e (\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Legality-Scott-J-Shapiro/dp/0674725786\"\u003eAmazon\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books/about/Legality.html?id=T-BxT5JvQqkC\"\u003eGoogle Books\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12120372216939101759\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBrown v. Board of Education\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Jack Balkin and Bruce Ackerman (eds.), \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books/about/What_Brown_V_Board_of_Education_Should_H.html?id=NzzXI7zaZFAC\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Brown v. Board of Education Should Have Said\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Barzun, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2507260\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInside/Out: Beyond the Internal/External Distinction in Legal Scholarship\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/77\"\u003eOral Argument 77: Jackasses Are People Too\u003c/a\u003e (guest Adam Kolber)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Charles Barzun.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"About positivism and originalism, with Charles Barzun.","date_published":"2016-10-01T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/c64a4912-980c-45b2-9747-df6353b958bc.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":42427193,"duration_in_seconds":5153}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:57e580cc15d5dbc132442cce","title":"Episode 112: Quasi-Narrative","url":"https://oralargument.org/112","content_text":"Is legal writing narrative? How about judgments, appeals, testimony? We talk with Simon Stern about narrative and its techniques and effects, suspense, dicta, authorial purposes, a crazy idea for a novel, mathematical proofs, and more.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSimon Stern’s faculty profile and writing\nSimon Stern, Narrative in the Legal Text: Judicial Opinions and Their Narratives\nWilliam Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England, Book II: Of the Rights of Thing (Simon Stern, ed.); Simon’s introduction to the volume\nWilliam Brewer and Edward Lichtenstein, Event Schemas, Story Schemas, and Story Grammars\nAbout the Paradox of Suspense\nJonathan D. Leavitt et al., Story Spoilers Don’t Spoil Stories; Jonathan D. Leavitt et al., The Fluency of Spoilers: Why Giving Away Endings Improves Stories\nCircles Disturbed: The Interplay of Mathematics and Narrative (Apostolos Doxiadis and Barry Mazur, eds.) (Introduction to the book)\nMitchel Lasser, The European Pasteurization of French Law\nOwen Barfield, This Ever Diverse Pair\nWikipedia on epistolary novels\nJulie Schumacher, Dear Committee Members\nOral Argument 48: Legal Truth (guest Lisa Kern Griffin)\nSpecial Guest: Simon Stern.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIs legal writing narrative? How about judgments, appeals, testimony? We talk with Simon Stern about narrative and its techniques and effects, suspense, dicta, authorial purposes, a crazy idea for a novel, mathematical proofs, and more.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSimon Stern’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.utoronto.ca/faculty-staff/full-time-faculty/simon-stern\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=782504\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSimon Stern, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2830904\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNarrative in the Legal Text: Judicial Opinions and Their Narratives\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-oxford-edition-of-blackstone-9780199601004\"\u003eWilliam Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England, Book II: Of the Rights of Thing\u003c/a\u003e (Simon Stern, ed.); \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2703542\"\u003eSimon’s introduction to the volume\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Brewer and Edward Lichtenstein, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ideals.illinois.edu/bitstream/handle/2142/17509/ctrstreadtechrepv01980i00197_opt.pdf?sequence=1\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEvent Schemas, Story Schemas, and Story Grammars\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/paradox-suspense/\"\u003eAbout the Paradox of Suspense\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJonathan D. Leavitt et al., \u003ca href=\"http://psy2.ucsd.edu/~nchristenfeld/Publications_files/Spoilers.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eStory Spoilers Don’t Spoil Stories\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Jonathan D. Leavitt et al., \u003ca href=\"http://psy2.ucsd.edu/~nchristenfeld/Publications_files/Fluency%20of%20Spoilers.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Fluency of Spoilers: Why Giving Away Endings Improves Stories\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://press.princeton.edu/titles/9764.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCircles Disturbed: The Interplay of Mathematics and Narrative\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Apostolos Doxiadis and Barry Mazur, eds.) (\u003ca href=\"http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i9764.pdf\"\u003eIntroduction to the book\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMitchel Lasser, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1510\u0026amp;context=facpub\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe European Pasteurization of French Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOwen Barfield, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/This-Ever-Diverse-Pair-Barfield/dp/0955958253\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThis Ever Diverse Pair\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistolary_novel\"\u003eWikipedia on epistolary novels\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJulie Schumacher, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Dear-Committee-Members-Julie-Schumacher/dp/0345807332\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDear Committee Members\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/48\"\u003eOral Argument 48: Legal Truth (guest Lisa Kern Griffin)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Simon Stern.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On narrative in law, with Simon Stern.","date_published":"2016-09-23T15:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/c3612b67-be0b-4cf3-9718-9d1ebc053268.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":36053482,"duration_in_seconds":4356}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:57dc42ee03596e8da9fee58d","title":"Episode 111: A Random Walk","url":"https://oralargument.org/111","content_text":"The merits of going live-to-tape, RSS woes, podcasts, mailbag, judges and voting, decisionmaking machines, breaking the law by not facilitating others’ breaking the law, shipping Perceiving Law, cutting one’s favorite scene, a mysterious phone call.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nInfo about the Technology Law Institute seminar at which we will record an episode in front of a live studio audience \nMichael Clemente, A Reassessment of Common Law Protections for “Idiots”; Michael Clemente, Executing Idiots; Adam Liptak, Supreme Court to Consider Legal Standard Drawn from “Of Mice and Men”\nChristian Turner, Perceiving Law (ssrn or socarxiv)\nJoseph Miller, A Modest Proposal for Expediting Manuscript Selection at Less Prestigious Law Reviews (ssrn or digital commons)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThe merits of going live-to-tape, RSS woes, podcasts, mailbag, judges and voting, decisionmaking machines, breaking the law by not facilitating others’ breaking the law, shipping Perceiving Law, cutting one’s favorite scene, a mysterious phone call.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.iclega.org/schedule.html\"\u003eInfo about\u003c/a\u003e the Technology Law Institute seminar at which we will record an episode in front of a live studio audience \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Clemente, \u003ca href=\"http://www.yalelawjournal.org/note/a-reassessment-of-common-law-protections-for-idiots\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Reassessment of Common Law Protections for “Idiots”\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Michael Clemente, \u003ca href=\"https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/07/27/executing-idiots#.l52CFMOA0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eExecuting Idiots\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Adam Liptak, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/23/us/politics/supreme-court-to-consider-legal-standard-drawn-from-of-mice-and-men.html?_r=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSupreme Court to Consider Legal Standard Drawn from “Of Mice and Men”\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003cem\u003ePerceiving Law\u003c/em\u003e (\u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2835112\"\u003essrn\u003c/a\u003e or \u003ca href=\"https://osf.io/project/q8kuh/files/osfstorage/57cda6a36c613b01ddf03648/?action=download\"\u003esocarxiv\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Miller, \u003cem\u003eA Modest Proposal for Expediting Manuscript Selection at Less Prestigious Law Reviews\u003c/em\u003e (\u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2811817\"\u003essrn\u003c/a\u003e or \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2076\u0026amp;context=fac_artchop\"\u003edigital commons\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Just Joe (and Christian (and nonsense)).","date_published":"2016-09-16T15:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/334b4722-cd59-4d6f-af38-e81921e9f449.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":36974455,"duration_in_seconds":4471}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:57c878f7e3df2817f3289b1a","title":"Episode 110: Equity","url":"https://oralargument.org/110","content_text":"After some goofy but needful pre-pre-roll and pre-post-roll, we take with Emily Sherwin about the law and equity distinction, its relation to rules and standards, its relation to candor, how what looked like a formal distinction had surprisingly functional effects, and how to get the most out of “good” rules.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nEmily Sherwin’s faculty profile and writing\nEmily Sherwin, Equity and the Modern Mind\nSpecial Guest: Emily Sherwin.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAfter some goofy but needful pre-pre-roll and pre-post-roll, we take with Emily Sherwin about the law and equity distinction, its relation to rules and standards, its relation to candor, how what looked like a formal distinction had surprisingly functional effects, and how to get the most out of “good” rules.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEmily Sherwin’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/faculty/bio_emily_sherwin.cfm\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=245700\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEmily Sherwin, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2817803\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEquity and the Modern Mind\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Emily Sherwin.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the vitality of law and equity, with Emily Sherwin.","date_published":"2016-09-02T12:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/4438d53e-d528-4d4a-96cb-0f7128a96ea3.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":31088141,"duration_in_seconds":3735}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:57c064d4e3df28de7498852d","title":"Episode 109: A Common Law for the Age of Regulation","url":"https://oralargument.org/109","content_text":"Administrative law expert Cathy Sharkey joins us to talk about conflicting judicial approach(es) to preemption and deference - and the web of institutions and decisionmaking that is modern lawmaking.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nCathy Sharkey’s faculty profile and writing\nCatherine Sharkey, The Administrative State and the Common Law: Regulatory Substitutes or Complements?\nSpecial Guest: Catherine Sharkey.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAdministrative law expert Cathy Sharkey joins us to talk about conflicting judicial approach(es) to preemption and deference - and the web of institutions and decisionmaking that is modern lawmaking.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCathy Sharkey’s \u003ca href=\"http://its.law.nyu.edu/facultyprofiles/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.overview\u0026amp;personid=26965\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://its.law.nyu.edu/facultyprofiles/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.publications\u0026amp;personid=26965\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCatherine Sharkey, \u003ca href=\"http://its.law.nyu.edu/faculty/profiles/representiveFiles/The%20Administrative%20State%20and%20the%20Common%20Law%20Regulatory%20Substitutes%20or%20Complements_ECDA11C7-EE39-C570-C99E3825EA912A46.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Administrative State and the Common Law: Regulatory Substitutes or Complements?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Catherine Sharkey.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On administrative law, with Cathy Sharkey.","date_published":"2016-08-26T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/adfadba3-5f27-4b16-bd3d-cc2f9914da4d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":43018617,"duration_in_seconds":5227}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:57b8550bb8a79bd395c3d171","title":"Episode 108: University, Court, and Slave","url":"https://oralargument.org/108","content_text":"Al Brophy returns to discuss, among other things, his new book on the connections between slavery, the academy, legal theory, and the judiciary.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAl Brophy’s faculty profile and writing\nAlfred Brophy, University, Court, and Slave: Pro-Slavery Thought in Southern Colleges and Courts and the Coming of Civil War; see also Al’s blog post about the book and Google books page where you can browse a bit\nOral Argument 76: Brutality (guest Al Brophy)\nBrooks Barnes and Cara Buckley, ‘The Birth of a Nation,’ Nate Parker’s Heralded Film, Is Now Cloaked in Controversy\nBirth of a Nation (2016) trailer\nState v. Mann\nSally Green, State v. Mann Exhumed\nAbout Thomas R.R. Cobb\nThomas Cobb, An Inquiry into the Law of Negro Slavery in the United States of America\nDaniel Victor, Bill O’Reilly Defends Comments About ‘Well Fed’ Slaves\nSarah Roth, Gender and Race in Antebellum Popular Culture (browse here on Google Books); see also Al’s blog post\nSlavery’s Capitalism (Sven Beckert and Seth Rockman, eds.); see also Al’s blog post about the book and containing links)\nState v. Negro Will, Slave of James S. Battle\nSpecial Guest: Al Brophy.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAl Brophy returns to discuss, among other things, his new book on the connections between slavery, the academy, legal theory, and the judiciary.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAl Brophy’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.unc.edu/faculty/directory/brophyalfredl/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=343640\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlfred Brophy, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/University-Court-Slave-Pro-Slavery-Southern/dp/0199964238/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUniversity, Court, and Slave: Pro-Slavery Thought in Southern Colleges and Courts and the Coming of Civil War\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2016/07/university-court-and-slave.html\"\u003eAl’s blog post about the book\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=WlCsDAAAQBAJ\u0026amp;printsec=frontcover\"\u003eGoogle books page\u003c/a\u003e where you can browse a bit\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/76\"\u003eOral Argument 76: Brutality\u003c/a\u003e (guest Al Brophy)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrooks Barnes and Cara Buckley, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/18/movies/the-birth-of-a-nation-nate-parkers-heralded-film-is-now-cloaked-in-controversy.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e‘The Birth of a Nation,’ Nate Parker’s Heralded Film, Is Now Cloaked in Controversy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18z1EQCoyg\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBirth of a Nation\u003c/em\u003e (2016) trailer\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/nchist-antebellum/4492\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState v. Mann\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSally Green, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.unc.edu/nclr/vol87/iss3/4/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState v. Mann Exhumed\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Reade_Rootes_Cobb\"\u003eAbout Thomas R.R. Cobb\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThomas Cobb, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=ASZrEQZ0Pp8C\u0026amp;printsec=frontcover\u0026amp;source=gbs_ge_summary_r\u0026amp;cad=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAn Inquiry into the Law of Negro Slavery in the United States of America\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Victor, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/business/media/bill-oreilly-says-slaves-who-helped-build-white-house-were-well-fed.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBill O’Reilly Defends Comments About ‘Well Fed’ Slaves\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Roth, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects/history/early-republic-and-antebellum-history/gender-and-race-antebellum-popular-culture\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGender and Race in Antebellum Popular Culture\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (browse \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=RpPfAwAAQBAJ\u0026amp;printsec=frontcover\"\u003ehere on Google Books\u003c/a\u003e); see also \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/12/roth-on-gender-and-race-in-antebellum-america.html\"\u003eAl’s blog post\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/15556.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSlavery’s Capitalism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Sven Beckert and Seth Rockman, eds.); see also \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2016/08/slaverys-capitalism.html\"\u003eAl’s blog post\u003c/a\u003e about the book and containing links)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://moglen.law.columbia.edu/twiki/pub/AmLegalHist/TedProject/Will.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState v. Negro Will, Slave of James S. Battle\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Al Brophy.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Al Brophy on slavery and the legal academy.","date_published":"2016-08-20T09:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/8540ad77-fead-4aeb-85f7-70eafa8fd56a.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":43841352,"duration_in_seconds":5329}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:57ae6270d482e9e1c4c227fe","title":"Episode 107: Unleash the Joe","url":"https://oralargument.org/107","content_text":"A special live-to-tape dig through the mailbag.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nChristian’s Modern American Legal Theory audio downloads (paste this into your podcast app: http://www.hydratext.com/malt2016?format=rss)\nEpisodes relevant to driverless cars: No Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale and Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo)\nJonathan Masur’s episode: All over the Gander\nSustainAtlanta\nOral Argument 74: Minimum Curiosity (guest Amanda Frost)\nMore Perfect (a side project of Radiolab)\nOral Argument 77: Jackasses Are People Too (guest Adama Kolber)\nOral Argument 44: Serial\nSarah Koenig, Judge Orderns New Trial for Adnan Syed (containing a link and embedded version of the opinion and order granting Syed a new trial)\nOral Argument 69: Contaminated Evidence (guest Brandon Garrett); Oral Argument 48: Legal Truth (guest Lisa Kern Griffin); Oral Argument 45: Sacrifice\nKathryn Rubino, Did Georgia Just Poison Bar Exam Test Takers?; Oral Argument 61: Minimum Competence (guest Derek Muller)\nOral Argument 21: Kind of a Hellscape (guest Brigham Daniels); Oral Argument 63: A Struggle with Every Single One (guest Jessica Owley)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eA special live-to-tape dig through the mailbag.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/malt2016\"\u003eModern American Legal Theory audio downloads\u003c/a\u003e (paste this into your podcast app: \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/malt2016?format=rss\"\u003ehttp://www.hydratext.com/malt2016?format=rss\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEpisodes relevant to driverless cars: \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/70\"\u003eNo Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/41\"\u003eSense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJonathan Masur’s episode: \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/71\"\u003eAll over the Gander\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://sustainableatlantaga.com\"\u003eSustainAtlanta\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/74\"\u003eOral Argument 74: Minimum Curiosity (guest Amanda Frost)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolabmoreperfect\"\u003eMore Perfect\u003c/a\u003e (a side project of Radiolab)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/77\"\u003eOral Argument 77: Jackasses Are People Too (guest Adama Kolber)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/44\"\u003eOral Argument 44: Serial\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Koenig, \u003ca href=\"https://serialpodcast.org/posts/2016/07/judge-orders-new-trial-for-adnan-syed\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJudge Orderns New Trial for Adnan Syed\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (containing a link and embedded version of the opinion and order granting Syed a new trial)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/69\"\u003eOral Argument 69: Contaminated Evidence (guest Brandon Garrett)\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/48\"\u003eOral Argument 48: Legal Truth (guest Lisa Kern Griffin)\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/45\"\u003eOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKathryn Rubino, \u003ca href=\"http://abovethelaw.com/2016/08/did-georgia-just-poison-bar-exam-test-takers/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDid Georgia Just Poison Bar Exam Test Takers?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/61\"\u003eOral Argument 61: Minimum Competence (guest Derek Muller)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/21\"\u003eOral Argument 21: Kind of a Hellscape (guest Brigham Daniels)\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/63\"\u003eOral Argument 63: A Struggle with Every Single One (guest Jessica Owley)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Mailbag time.","date_published":"2016-08-12T20:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/708d404e-80f6-4448-a10b-55d99cc6a652.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":39148002,"duration_in_seconds":4743}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:579762a7f7e0ab0318e99e2c","title":"Episode 106: Legal Asteroid","url":"https://oralargument.org/106","content_text":"Joe and Christian talk about this fraught election, focusing on RBG’s Trump remarks. Joe makes a confession.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nELB Podcast Episode 14: Erwin Chemerinsky, Did Justice Ginsburg Cross the Line?\nDahlia Lithwick, Deciphering Justice\nRichard Hasen and Dahlia Lithwick, The Real Reason Why Judges Should Keep Quiet About Elections\nMark Sherman, AP Interview: Ginsburg Doesn’t Want to Envision a Trump Win (“I don't want to think about that possibility, but if it should be, then everything is up for grabs.” Note that this is what Christian mistakenly remembered as “all bets are off.”)\nAdam Liptak, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, No Fan of Donald Trump, Critiques Latest Term (“I can’t imagine what this place would be — I can’t imagine what the country would be — with Donald Trump as our president.” “For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.”)\nNina Totenberg, Supreme Court Justice Ginsburg Apologizes for Trump Comments\nLearned Hand, The “Spirit of Liberty” Speech\nOral Argument 61: Minimum Competence (guest Derek Muller)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe and Christian talk about this fraught election, focusing on RBG’s Trump remarks. Joe makes a confession.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://electionlawblog.org/?p=84347\"\u003eELB Podcast Episode 14: Erwin Chemerinsky, Did Justice Ginsburg Cross the Line?\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/07/ruth_bader_ginsburg_s_improper_attacks_on_donald_trump.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDeciphering Justice\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Hasen and Dahlia Lithwick, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/07/ruth_bader_ginsburg_s_trump_remarks_will_have_long_lasting_effects.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Real Reason Why Judges Should Keep Quiet About Elections\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Sherman, \u003ca href=\"http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0da3a641190742669cc0d01b90cd57fa/ap-interview-ginsburg-reflects-big-cases-scalias-death\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAP Interview: Ginsburg Doesn’t Want to Envision a Trump Win\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (“I don't want to think about that possibility, but if it should be, then everything is up for grabs.” Note that this is what Christian mistakenly remembered as “all bets are off.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdam Liptak, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/11/us/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-no-fan-of-donald-trump-critiques-latest-term.html?_r=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRuth Bader Ginsburg, No Fan of Donald Trump, Critiques Latest Term\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (“I can’t imagine what this place would be — I can’t imagine what the country would be — with Donald Trump as our president.” “For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be — I don’t even want to contemplate that.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNina Totenberg, \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2016/07/15/486130165/supreme-court-justice-ginsburg-apologizes-for-trump-comments\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSupreme Court Justice Ginsburg Apologizes for Trump Comments\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLearned Hand, \u003ca href=\"http://www.providenceforum.org/spiritoflibertyspeech\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe “Spirit of Liberty” Speech\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/61\"\u003eOral Argument 61: Minimum Competence (guest Derek Muller)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The one about Trump and RBG.","date_published":"2016-07-29T12:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/63583301-31f1-4869-bc63-5743330504b8.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":38417855,"duration_in_seconds":4651}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:579133a7c534a56238299239","title":"Episode 105: Bismarck’s Raw Material","url":"https://oralargument.org/105","content_text":"With returning guest Tim Meyer, we talk about Brexit. Topics include referenda, democracy, comic book villains, the dynamics of union and separation, treaties and executive actions, Iceland, the roles of crisis and convenience. And a dramatic technical difficulty.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nTim Meyer’s faculty profile\nOral Argument 2: Bust a Deal, Face the Wheel (guest Tim Meyer)\nAbout the treaties and protocols of the European Union\nArticle 50 of the Lisbon Treaty (aka the Treaty on European Union)\nLaurence Helfer, Exiting Treaties\nTimothy Meyer, Power, Exit Costs, and Renegotiation in International Law\nOwen Bowcott, Theresa May Does Not Intend to Trigger Article 50 This Year, Court Told\nAbout the royal prerogative in the United Kingdom\nScot Peterson, A Flexible Constitution Is Not Comforting in Troubled Times\nIain Watson, EU Referendum Petition Signed by More than 2.5m\nAbout the US-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement\nAbout the UK Human Rights Act of 1998 (and its relation to the European Convention on Human Rights); Patrick Stewart, What Has the ECHR Ever Done for Us? (video); Charlie Peat, Theresa May Ditches Her Plans to Take Britain out of European Convention of Human Rights\nAbout the European Free Trade Association and the European Economic Area\nAbout Norway-EU Relations (including information about the Norwegian EU referenda)\nAbout the 2014 Swiss immigration referendeum\nAbout Otto von Bismarck\nSpecial Guest: Tim Meyer.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWith returning guest Tim Meyer, we talk about Brexit. Topics include referenda, democracy, comic book villains, the dynamics of union and separation, treaties and executive actions, Iceland, the roles of crisis and convenience. And a dramatic technical difficulty.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTim Meyer’s \u003ca href=\"http://law.vanderbilt.edu/bio/timothy-meyer\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/2\"\u003eOral Argument 2: Bust a Deal, Face the Wheel\u003c/a\u003e (guest Tim Meyer)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaties_of_the_European_Union\"\u003eAbout the treaties and protocols of the European Union\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty/treaty-on-european-union-and-comments/title-6-final-provisions/137-article-50.html\"\u003eArticle 50 of the Lisbon Treaty\u003c/a\u003e (aka the Treaty on European Union)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLaurence Helfer, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/faculty_scholarship/2025/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eExiting Treaties\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTimothy Meyer, \u003ca href=\"http://www.harvardilj.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/HILJ_51-2_Meyer.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePower, Exit Costs, and Renegotiation in International Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOwen Bowcott, \u003ca href=\"http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/19/government-awaits-first-legal-opposition-to-brexit-in-high-court\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTheresa May Does Not Intend to Trigger Article 50 This Year, Court Told\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_prerogative_in_the_United_Kingdom\"\u003eAbout the royal prerogative in the United Kingdom\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScot Peterson, \u003ca href=\"http://balkin.blogspot.com/2016/07/a-flexible-constitution-is-not.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Flexible Constitution Is Not Comforting in Troubled Times\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eIain Watson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36629324\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEU Referendum Petition Signed by More than 2.5m\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement\"\u003eAbout the US-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Act_1998\"\u003eAbout the UK Human Rights Act of 1998\u003c/a\u003e (and its relation to the European Convention on Human Rights); Patrick Stewart, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Has the ECHR Ever Done for Us?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (video); Charlie Peat, \u003ca href=\"http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/685158/Theresa-May-ditches-plans-Britain-out-European-Convention-Human-Rights-Tory\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTheresa May Ditches Her Plans to Take Britain out of European Convention of Human Rights\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Free_Trade_Association\"\u003eAbout the European Free Trade Association and the European Economic Area\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway–European_Union_relations\"\u003eAbout Norway-EU Relations\u003c/a\u003e (including information about the Norwegian EU referenda)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_immigration_referendum,_February_2014\"\u003eAbout the 2014 Swiss immigration referendeum\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck\"\u003eAbout Otto von Bismarck\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Tim Meyer.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On Brexit, with Tim Meyer.","date_published":"2016-07-22T12:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/d86763b0-2c06-4926-90ad-928f1514b03c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":53980998,"duration_in_seconds":6597}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:577fdc5437c581ee1a191eeb","title":"Episode 104: Drunk in a Dorm Room","url":"https://oralargument.org/104","content_text":"Christian, Joe, and frequent co-host Sonja West dig into the mail and tweet bags and discuss nonsense, sense, and antisense. Topics include: Judge John Hodgman’s weighing in on speed trap law, podcast listening speeds, the Slate Supreme Court Breakfast Table, the insurable liability approach to the gun crisis, Joe sings (yes) a line from “The Externality Song” and (relatedly, obv) Hamilton vs. Upstream Color, price matching and the morality quiz, footnoting and in-text citation and madness, an argument over Guantanamo and rights, more on the culturally polarized gun debate and on rights generally, Posner’s skepticism of academia, and how things change and get better.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSonja West’s faculty profile and writing\nOral Argument 1: Send Joe to Prison (guest Sonja West)\nJudge John Hodgman on flashing lights to warn of speed traps\nSlate: The Supreme Court Breakfast Table\nOral Argument 101: Tug of War\nOral Argument 100: A Few Minutes in the Rear-View Mirror\nOral Argument 96: Students as Means\nKedar Bhatia, Footnotes in Supreme Court Opinions\nDavid Foster Wallace, Tense Present (an earlier version of Authority and American Usage in Consider the Lobster and Other Essays)\nThe brief Christian helped with in Rasul v. Bush, making the Mathews v. Eldridge argument the Court wound up adopting in the simultaneously decided Hamdi v. Rumsfeld (see pp. 17-21)\nSonja West, The Second Amendment Is Not Absolute\nThe Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act that confers immunity on gun manufacturers for most gun deaths; see also the wiki article on the act\nOral Argument 102: Precautionary Federalism (guest Sarah Light)\nDissent from denial of cert. in Stormans v. Wiesman\nMark Graber, Alito (Religion) v. Alito (Abortion)\nRichard Posner, Entry 9: The Academy Is out of Its Depth\nAkhil Amar, Entry 10: Who Judges the Judges\nRichard Posner, Entry 11: The Immigration Decision Won’t Do Much\nDawn Johnsen, Entry 12: How can a judge dismiss the importance of the Constitution?\nRichard Posner, Entry 27: Broad Interpretations\nSpecial Guest: Sonja West.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eChristian, Joe, and frequent co-host Sonja West dig into the mail and tweet bags and discuss nonsense, sense, and antisense. Topics include: Judge John Hodgman’s weighing in on speed trap law, podcast listening speeds, the Slate Supreme Court Breakfast Table, the insurable liability approach to the gun crisis, Joe sings (yes) a line from “The Externality Song” and (relatedly, obv) Hamilton vs. Upstream Color, price matching and the morality quiz, footnoting and in-text citation and madness, an argument over Guantanamo and rights, more on the culturally polarized gun debate and on rights generally, Posner’s skepticism of academia, and how things change and get better.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSonja West’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/sonja-r-west\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=518870\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/1\"\u003eOral Argument 1: Send Joe to Prison\u003c/a\u003e (guest Sonja West)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.maximumfun.org/shows/judge-john-hodgman\"\u003eJudge John Hodgman\u003c/a\u003e on \u003ca href=\"https://overcast.fm/+FS-doxU/40:56\"\u003eflashing lights to warn of speed traps\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_breakfast_table.html\"\u003eSlate: The Supreme Court Breakfast Table\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/101\"\u003eOral Argument 101: Tug of War\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/100\"\u003eOral Argument 100: A Few Minutes in the Rear-View Mirror\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/96\"\u003eOral Argument 96: Students as Means\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKedar Bhatia, \u003ca href=\"http://dailywrit.com/2008/12/footnotes-in-supreme-court-opinions/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFootnotes in Supreme Court Opinions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Foster Wallace, \u003ca href=\"http://harpers.org/wp-content/uploads/HarpersMagazine-2001-04-0070913.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTense Present\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (an earlier version of \u003cem\u003eAuthority and American Usage\u003c/em\u003e in \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consider_the_Lobster\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eConsider the Lobster and Other Essays\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.socialworkers.org/ldf/brief_bank/14077Freiman.pdf\"\u003ebrief Christian helped with\u003c/a\u003e in \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13489903449749466109\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRasul v. Bush\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, making the \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10296811528183203766\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMathews v. Eldridge\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e argument the Court wound up adopting in the simultaneously decided \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6173897153146757813\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHamdi v. Rumsfeld\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see pp. 17-21)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSonja West, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/12/second_amendment_allows_for_gun_control.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Second Amendment Is Not Absolute\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/chapter-105\"\u003eThe Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act\u003c/a\u003e that confers immunity on gun manufacturers for most gun deaths; see also the \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_in_Arms_Act\"\u003ewiki article on the act\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/102\"\u003eOral Argument 102: Precautionary Federalism\u003c/a\u003e (guest Sarah Light)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/15-862_2c8f.pdf\"\u003eDissent from denial of cert. in \u003cem\u003eStormans v. Wiesman\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Graber, \u003ca href=\"http://balkin.blogspot.com/2016/06/alito-religion-v-alito-abortion.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAlito (Religion) v. Alito (Abortion)\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Posner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_breakfast_table/features/2016/supreme_court_breakfast_table_for_june_2016/law_school_professors_need_more_practical_experience.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEntry 9: The Academy Is out of Its Depth\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAkhil Amar, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_breakfast_table/features/2016/supreme_court_breakfast_table_for_june_2016/how_to_keep_supreme_court_justices_accountable.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEntry 10: Who Judges the Judges\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Posner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_breakfast_table/features/2016/supreme_court_breakfast_table_for_june_2016/the_supreme_court_s_immigration_decision_won_t_do_much.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEntry 11: The Immigration Decision Won’t Do Much\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDawn Johnsen, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_breakfast_table/features/2016/supreme_court_breakfast_table_for_june_2016/why_studying_constitutional_history_is_so_important.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEntry 12: How can a judge dismiss the importance of the Constitution?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Posner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_breakfast_table/features/2016/supreme_court_breakfast_table_for_june_2016/richard_posner_clarifies_his_views_on_the_constitution.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEntry 27: Broad Interpretations\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Sonja West.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Feedback, with Sonja West.","date_published":"2016-07-08T13:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/1a61b62e-ddff-4413-8a10-54ffffdb6961.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":56423699,"duration_in_seconds":5522}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5776ad4d37c581e3813adac8","title":"Episode 103: All over the Gander","url":"https://oralargument.org/103","content_text":"We’re joined by a scholar of patent law, administrative law, and many other things, Jonathan Masur. Jonathan does not think the patent office has done a very good job of conducting cost-benefit analyses of various rules and procedures for issuing, maintaining, and challenging patents. Supposing patents should exist at all - can you tell who writes these show notes? - how should we account for the effects of the way we administer the system? These questions lead us to some basic conversation about cost-benefit analysis and and the value of patents. And we wind up asking simple questions, like what a cost is.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJonathan Masur’s faculty profile and writing\nJonathan Masur, CBA at the PTO\nJonathan Masur and Eric Posner, Unquantified Benefits and the Problem of Regulation Under Uncertainty\nCuozzo Speed Technologies v. Lee\nPatent and Trademark Office, Changes to Implement Inter Partes Review Proceedings, Post-Grant Review Proceedings (at 48720-48722)\nPatent and Trademark Office, Setting and Adjusting Patent Fees in accordance with Section 10 of the Leahy-Smith America Invents Act\nPaul Heald, A Transaction Cost Theory of Patent Law\nSpecial Guest: Jonathan Masur.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe’re joined by a scholar of patent law, administrative law, and many other things, Jonathan Masur. Jonathan does not think the patent office has done a very good job of conducting cost-benefit analyses of various rules and procedures for issuing, maintaining, and challenging patents. Supposing patents should exist at all - can you tell who writes these show notes? - how should we account for the effects of the way we administer the system? These questions lead us to some basic conversation about cost-benefit analysis and and the value of patents. And we wind up asking simple questions, like what a cost is.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJonathan Masur’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/masur\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uchicago.edu/node/585/publications\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJonathan Masur, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2770116\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCBA at the PTO\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJonathan Masur and Eric Posner, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2646063\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnquantified Benefits and the Problem of Regulation Under Uncertainty\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/15-446_ihdk.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCuozzo Speed Technologies v. Lee\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePatent and Trademark Office, \u003ca href=\"http://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/aia_implementation/fr_specific_trial.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChanges to Implement Inter Partes Review Proceedings, Post-Grant Review Proceedings\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (at 48720-48722)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePatent and Trademark Office, \u003ca href=\"http://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/aia_implementation/AC54_Final_Regulatory_Impact_Analysis.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSetting and Adjusting Patent Fees in accordance with Section 10 of the Leahy-Smith America Invents Act\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Heald, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=385841\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Transaction Cost Theory of Patent Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Jonathan Masur.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On cost-benefit in patent law, with Jonathan Masur.","date_published":"2016-07-01T13:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/35574882-d899-4e7e-9aeb-c680de63a086.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40297880,"duration_in_seconds":4886}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:576d62d5e6f2e184be7e74c4","title":"Episode 102: Precautionary Federalism","url":"https://oralargument.org/102","content_text":"Despite the fact that our show is pretty much the opposite of careful, we discuss precaution, regulation, and institutional choice with Sarah Light. The environmental and other effects of Uber and Lyft are complicated. If they’re very hard to calculate and understand, how should we regulate them to address their harms? With uncertain webs of causation, can the precautionary principle tell us not simply whether to regulate but who should regulate? Sarah thinks so.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSarah Light's faculty profile and writing\nSarah Light, Precautionary Federalism and the Sharing Economy\nLisa Rayle, Susan Shaheen, Nelson Chan, Danielle Dai, and Robert Cervero, App-Based, On-Demand Ride Services: Comparing Taxi and Ridesourcing Trips and Use\nShared-Use Mobility Center, Shared Mobility and the Transformation of Public TransitCass Sunstein, Beyond the Precautionary PrincipleCass Sunstein, Laws of Fear: Beyond the Precautionary PrincipleRobert Hahn and Cass Sunstein, The Precautionary Principle as a Basis for Decision Making\nSpecial Guest: Sarah Light.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eDespite the fact that our show is pretty much the opposite of careful, we discuss precaution, regulation, and institutional choice with Sarah Light. The environmental and other effects of Uber and Lyft are complicated. If they’re very hard to calculate and understand, how should we regulate them to address their harms? With uncertain webs of causation, can the precautionary principle tell us not simply whether to regulate but who should regulate? Sarah thinks so.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Light's \u003ca href=\"https://lgst.wharton.upenn.edu/profile/24555/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1676980\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Light, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2760985\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePrecautionary Federalism and the Sharing Economy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Rayle, Susan Shaheen, Nelson Chan, Danielle Dai, and Robert Cervero, \u003ca href=\"http://www.uctc.net/research/papers/UCTC-FR-2014-08.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eApp-Based, On-Demand Ride Services: Comparing Taxi and Ridesourcing Trips and Use\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eShared-Use Mobility Center, \u003ca href=\"https://www.apta.com/resources/reportsandpublications/Documents/APTA-Shared-Mobility.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShared Mobility and the Transformation of Public Transit\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003cli\u003eCass Sunstein, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3241\u0026amp;context=penn_law_review\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBeyond the Precautionary Principle\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003eCass Sunstein, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?hl=en\u0026amp;lr=\u0026amp;id=-OVUQPirb6cC\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaws of Fear: Beyond the Precautionary Principle\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003eRobert Hahn and Cass Sunstein, \u003ca href=\"http://www.masonlec.org/site/files/2011/07/Precautionary-principle-Sunstein-Hahn.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Precautionary Principle as a Basis for Decision Making\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Sarah Light.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Uber and federalism, with Sarah Light.","date_published":"2016-06-24T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/72cffa63-421f-434a-a25a-111df6de46e0.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":29482961,"duration_in_seconds":3535}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5760996f2b8ddee853d2d757","title":"Episode 101: Tug of War","url":"https://oralargument.org/101","content_text":"After the deadliest mass shooting in American history, we talk about the problem of gun violence and a possible way forward.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nChristian Turner, The Freedom to Kill and Maim\nAbout guns and suicide (literature overview)\nHarvard Injury Control Research Center, Firearms Research (a collection of findings on gun ownership, use, injuries, risks, and more)\nDylan Matthews, What No Politician Wants to Admit about Gun Control\nGerman Lopez, America’s Gun Problem, Explained\nMark Follman, Gavin Aronson, and Deanna Pan, US Mass Shootings, 1982-2016: Data from Mother Jones' Investigation\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAfter the deadliest mass shooting in American history, we talk about the problem of gun violence and a possible way forward.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2012/12/17/the-freedom-to-kill-and-maim.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Freedom to Kill and Maim\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-ownership-and-use/\"\u003eAbout guns and suicide\u003c/a\u003e (literature overview)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHarvard Injury Control Research Center, \u003ca href=\"https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFirearms Research\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a collection of findings on gun ownership, use, injuries, risks, and more)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDylan Matthews, \u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/2015/10/5/9454161/gun-violence-solution\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat No Politician Wants to Admit about Gun Control\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGerman Lopez, \u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/2015/10/3/9444417/gun-violence-united-states-america\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmerica’s Gun Problem, Explained\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Follman, Gavin Aronson, and Deanna Pan, \u003ca href=\"http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUS Mass Shootings, 1982-2016: Data from Mother Jones' Investigation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"About guns.","date_published":"2016-06-14T20:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/0f117b17-4508-437e-976f-5decc22cf483.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":20883577,"duration_in_seconds":2460}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:575c4e66044262e4c4964538","title":"Episode 100: A Few Minutes in the Rear-View Mirror","url":"https://oralargument.org/100","content_text":"In honor of our base 10 number system, we revert to type and have recorded a long, self-indulgent episode. We reflect on our show, respond to feedback, and wonder about law and legal academia. Also Joe’s travels and nonsense. Feedback includes the other side of the expedite problem, a morality quiz for Joe, the proper playback speed for this show, political processes in arrest and indictment, professionalism norms and racism, SSRN’s purchase by Elsevier, more on the Bluebook and its connection with the problems of legal knowledge creation, and what our jobs are and whether we should keep doing this show.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nChristian Turner, Podcasts\nOral Argument 0: Who Is Your Hero?\nFlyover Country\nOral Argument 96: Students as Means\nAlvin Roth, Who Gets What - And Why\nLeegin Creative Leather Products v. PSKS; Klor’s v. Broadway-Hale Stores\nOral Argument 99: Power (guest Lisa Heinzerling); Richard Posner, The Incoherence of Antonin Scalia\nOn the bar exam: Oral Argument 61: Minimum Competence (guest Derek Muller); Oral Argument 62: Viewer Mail; Virginia Bar, Mandatory Dress Code\nOral Argument 98: T3 Jedi (guests Jeremy Kessler and David Pozen)\nMichael Jensen's announcement of the sale of SSRN to Elsevier\nJohn Dupuis, Elsevier Buys SSRN: Another Sideshow or the Main Event?\nPaul Gowder, SSRN Has Been Captured by the Enemy of Open Knowledge\nZenodo\nAbout arXiv\nOral Argument 91: Baby Blue (guest Chris Sprigman)\nOral Argument 12: Heart of Darkness\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIn honor of our base 10 number system, we revert to type and have recorded a long, self-indulgent episode. We reflect on our show, respond to feedback, and wonder about law and legal academia. Also Joe’s travels and nonsense. Feedback includes the other side of the expedite problem, a morality quiz for Joe, the proper playback speed for this show, political processes in arrest and indictment, professionalism norms and racism, SSRN’s purchase by Elsevier, more on the Bluebook and its connection with the problems of legal knowledge creation, and what our jobs are and whether we should keep doing this show.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/1/11/podcasts\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePodcasts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/zero\"\u003eOral Argument 0: Who Is Your Hero?\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://fc.umn.edu\"\u003eFlyover Country\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/96\"\u003eOral Argument 96: Students as Means\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlvin Roth, \u003ca href=\"https://www.harpercollins.co.uk/9780007520794/who-gets-what-and-why\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWho Gets What - And Why\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15925807009998997000\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLeegin Creative Leather Products v. PSKS\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8239775167612872084\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKlor’s v. Broadway-Hale Stores\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/99\"\u003eOral Argument 99: Power\u003c/a\u003e (guest Lisa Heinzerling); Richard Posner, \u003ca href=\"https://newrepublic.com/article/106441/scalia-garner-reading-the-law-textual-originalism\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Incoherence of Antonin Scalia\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOn the bar exam: \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/61\"\u003eOral Argument 61: Minimum Competence\u003c/a\u003e (guest Derek Muller); \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/62\"\u003eOral Argument 62: Viewer Mail\u003c/a\u003e; Virginia Bar, \u003ca href=\"http://barexam.virginia.gov/bar/barmdc.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMandatory Dress Code\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/98\"\u003eOral Argument 98: T3 Jedi\u003c/a\u003e (guests Jeremy Kessler and David Pozen)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.ssrn.com/en/index.cfm/ssrn-joins-mendeley-elsevier/\"\u003eMichael Jensen's announcement of the sale of SSRN to Elsevier\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Dupuis, \u003ca href=\"http://scienceblogs.com/confessions/2016/05/18/elsevier-buys-ssrn-another-sideshow-or-the-main-event/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eElsevier Buys SSRN: Another Sideshow or the Main Event?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Gowder, \u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/@PaulGowder/ssrn-has-been-captured-by-the-enemy-of-open-knowledge-b3e5bca6751d#.6fnpku9ek\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSSRN Has Been Captured by the Enemy of Open Knowledge\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://zenodo.org\"\u003eZenodo\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArXiv\"\u003eAbout arXiv\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/91\"\u003eOral Argument 91: Baby Blue\u003c/a\u003e (guest Chris Sprigman)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/12\"\u003eOral Argument 12: Heart of Darkness\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The one with special base 10 significance.","date_published":"2016-06-11T14:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/9d0fe088-21f4-466f-870d-0757269bcbdd.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":67120112,"duration_in_seconds":6591}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:57487c127c65e463a2e58cbe","title":"Episode 99: Power","url":"https://oralargument.org/99","content_text":"Joe is at the airport for a special pre-roll segment. Then we say hello to Lisa Heinzerling, administrative law expert (5:23). After a substantive and goofy discussion of legislation and regulation courses (6:29), we discuss the development of what Lisa calls “the power canons” resulting from recent decisions of the Supreme Court (10:39). If you’re Congress, how do you write a statute meant to solve problems that might evolve in type or degree? Do you have the power to do so, or are you limited to speaking to the here and now? Does the Supreme Court have the power to limit legislative and regulatory power in this way?\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nLisa Heinzerling’s faculty profile (including links to all her scholarship)\nLisa Heinzerling and Mark Tushnet, The Regulatory and Administrative State (a legislation and regulation casebook)\nLisa Heinzerling, The Power Canons\nOral Argument 23: Rex Sunstein? (guest Ethan Leib)\nCity of Arlington v. FCC (C.J. Roberts in dissent: “It would be a bit much to describe the result as ‘the very definition of tyranny,’ but the danger posed by the growing power of the administrative state cannot be dismissed.”)\nNCTA v. Brand X\nRichard Posner, The Incoherence of Antonin Scalia\nUtility Air Regulatory Group v. EPA\nKing v. Burwell\nMichigan v. EPA\nLisa Heinzerling, Inside EPA: A Former Insider's Reflections on the Relationship Between the Obama EPA and the Obama White House\nOral Argument 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe (our Erie show)\nSpecial Guest: Lisa Heinzerling.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe is at the airport for a special pre-roll segment. Then we say hello to Lisa Heinzerling, administrative law expert (5:23). After a substantive and goofy discussion of legislation and regulation courses (6:29), we discuss the development of what Lisa calls “the power canons” resulting from recent decisions of the Supreme Court (10:39). If you’re Congress, how do you write a statute meant to solve problems that might evolve in type or degree? Do you have the power to do so, or are you limited to speaking to the here and now? Does the Supreme Court have the power to limit legislative and regulatory power in this way?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Heinzerling’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/heinzerling-lisa.cfm\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e (including links to all her scholarship)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Heinzerling and Mark Tushnet, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Regulatory-Administrative-State-Materials-Twenty-First/dp/0195189310\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Regulatory and Administrative State\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a legislation and regulation casebook)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Heinzerling, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2757770\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Power Canons\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/23\"\u003eOral Argument 23: Rex Sunstein?\u003c/a\u003e (guest Ethan Leib)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8614546201508695232\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCity of Arlington v. FCC\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (C.J. Roberts in dissent: “It would be a bit much to describe the result as ‘the very definition of tyranny,’ but the danger posed by the growing power of the administrative state cannot be dismissed.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9224020825253625133\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNCTA v. Brand X\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Posner, \u003ca href=\"https://newrepublic.com/article/106441/scalia-garner-reading-the-law-textual-originalism\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Incoherence of Antonin Scalia\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5508189020577131514\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUtility Air Regulatory Group v. EPA\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6184792205191652755\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKing v. Burwell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-46_10n2.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMichigan v. EPA\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Heinzerling, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1741\u0026amp;context=pelr\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInside EPA: A Former Insider's Reflections on the Relationship Between the Obama EPA and the Obama White House\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/28\"\u003eOral Argument 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe\u003c/a\u003e (our \u003cem\u003eErie\u003c/em\u003e show)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Lisa Heinzerling.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the power canons, with Lisa Heinzerling.","date_published":"2016-05-27T13:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/588e12e5-cddd-4865-8dfc-1ad938b4285a.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":36175706,"duration_in_seconds":4371}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:573b565c555986b9fe1e0fa6","title":"Episode 98: T3 Jedi","url":"https://oralargument.org/98","content_text":"Like living things, legal theories are born, grow, change, and die. We are joined by Jeremy Kessler and David Pozen to discuss this life cycle and how it applies to some popular theories today, like originalism. We start by discussing what prescriptive legal theories are and how there was a move to transcend politics through process-based theories (3:23). Then: the theory of theories (9:31), the example of Brown v. Board, originalism, and brute political facts (20:17), a sociological story (25:10), the role of law schools and teaching in theory evolution (31:22), a discussion of trees, structure, and the role of higher order principles in law (37:50), theory change in private law (47:14), normative vs. descriptive theories of theories (54:05), and the internal and external approaches to originalism (1:04:27).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJeremy Kessler’s faculty profile and writing\nDavid Pozen’s faculty profile and writing\nJeremy Kessler and David Pozen, Working Themselves Impure: A Life-Cycle Theory of Legal Theories\nOral Argument 97: Bonus\nLawrence Solum, Kessler and Pozen on the Development of Normative Legal Theories\nLawrence Solum, Legal Theory Lexicon: It Takes a Theory to Beat a Theory\nDaniel Carpenter,  The Forging of Bureaucratic Autonomy:Reputations, Networks, and Policy Innovation in Executive Agencies, 1862-1928\nAbout Lévi-Strauss’s structuralism\nJavins v. First National Realty Corp.\nJeffrey Gordon,  The Empty Call for Benefit-Cost Analysis in Financial Regulation\nGuido Calabresi and Philip Bobbitt, Tragic Choices\nOpen Science Collaboration, Estimating the Reproducibility of Psychological Science\nS.J. Gould and R.C. Lewontin, The Spandrels of San Marco and the Panglossian Paradigm: A Critique of the Adaptationist Programme\nLawrence Solum, Legal Theory Lexicon: Originalism and Legal Theory Lexicon: The New Originalism (each containing links and citations to many of the key works)\nStephen Smith, Saving Originalism from Originalists\nAn example of Larry Solum’s April Fools jokes\nSpecial Guests: David Pozen and Jeremy Kessler.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eLike living things, legal theories are born, grow, change, and die. We are joined by Jeremy Kessler and David Pozen to discuss this life cycle and how it applies to some popular theories today, like originalism. We start by discussing what prescriptive legal theories are and how there was a move to transcend politics through process-based theories (3:23). Then: the theory of theories (9:31), the example of Brown v. Board, originalism, and brute political facts (20:17), a sociological story (25:10), the role of law schools and teaching in theory evolution (31:22), a discussion of trees, structure, and the role of higher order principles in law (37:50), theory change in private law (47:14), normative vs. descriptive theories of theories (54:05), and the internal and external approaches to originalism (1:04:27).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeremy Kessler’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.columbia.edu/fac/Jeremy_Kessler\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1818042\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Pozen’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.columbia.edu/fac/David_Pozen\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=346717\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeremy Kessler and David Pozen, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2755578\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWorking Themselves Impure: A Life-Cycle Theory of Legal Theories\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/97\"\u003eOral Argument 97: Bonus\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Solum, \u003ca href=\"http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheory/2016/03/kessler-pozen-on-the-development-of-normative-legal-theories.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKessler and Pozen on the Development of Normative Legal Theories\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Solum, \u003ca href=\"http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheory/2012/10/introduction-it-takes-a-theory-to-beat-a-theory-this-is-surely-one-of-the-top-ten-all-time-comments-uttered-by-law-professo.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal Theory Lexicon: It Takes a Theory to Beat a Theory\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Carpenter, \u003ca href=\"http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7092.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e The Forging of Bureaucratic Autonomy:\u003cbr\u003eReputations, Networks, and Policy Innovation in Executive Agencies, 1862-1928\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Lévi-Strauss#Theories\"\u003eLévi-Strauss’s structuralism\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3585883441859220219\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJavins v. First National Realty Corp.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeffrey Gordon, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2378562\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e The Empty Call for Benefit-Cost Analysis in Financial Regulation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGuido Calabresi and Philip Bobbitt, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Tragic-Choices-Lectures-Public-Analysis/dp/039309085X/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTragic Choices\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOpen Science Collaboration, \u003ca href=\"http://science.sciencemag.org/content/349/6251/aac4716\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEstimating the Reproducibility of Psychological Science\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eS.J. Gould and R.C. Lewontin, \u003ca href=\"http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/205/1161/581\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Spandrels of San Marco and the Panglossian Paradigm: A Critique of the Adaptationist Programme\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Solum, \u003ca href=\"http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheory/2016/04/legal-theory-lexicon-originalism.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal Theory Lexicon: Originalism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://lsolum.typepad.com/legal_theory_lexicon/2013/02/legal-theory-lexicon-071-the-new-originalism.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal Theory Lexicon: The New Originalism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (each containing links and citations to many of the key works)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Smith, \u003ca href=\"http://www.libertylawsite.org/liberty-forum/saving-originalism-from-the-originalists/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSaving Originalism from Originalists\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheory/2016/04/amar-on-the-original-manuscript.html\"\u003eAn example of Larry Solum’s April Fools jokes\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guests: David Pozen and Jeremy Kessler.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On theories, with Jeremy Kessler and David Pozen.","date_published":"2016-05-20T12:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/13136dd2-8642-4f4e-8715-057904618a6d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":39811549,"duration_in_seconds":4826}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5734984b2eeb81d4f66159e7","title":"Episode 97: Facty","url":"https://oralargument.org/97","content_text":"When interpretations and rules depend on what’s true about the world (so, all the time), judges have to reach conclusions about those truths. But courts are not exactly like administrative agencies or legislatures, and they depend on adversarial parties to contest the truth. The Supreme Court, in particular, has come to rely on an elite bar to organize and present facts and studies. Having been through our usual vetting process of successfully appearing on the Colbert Report, Alli Larsen is ready for the big time and joins us to discuss how courts deal with the problem of factiness (which is the ivory tower version of truthiness). Alli’s appearance on the Colbert Report (01:02). The pronunciation of “amicus” (05:24). The main topic (10:36).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAlli Larsen’s faculty profile and writing\nAlli on the Colbert Report discussing amicus briefs and factfinding\nBefore you write in, yes, the Dan Quayle story is false, but is that really the point?\nOral Argument 74: Minimum Curiosity (guest Amanda Frost)\nRowe v. Gibson\nAlli Orr Lasen, The Amicus Machine\nAlli Orr Larsen, The Trouble with Amicus Facts\nAlli Orr Larsen, Factual Precedents\nAmanda Frost, The Limits of Advocacy\nBrianne Gorod, The Adversarial Myth: Appellate Court Extra-Record Factfinding\nGlossip v. Gross (death penalty)\nBrown v. Entertainment Merchants Association (violent video games)\nAbout the Brandeis Brief\nGonzales v. Carhart\nReva Siegel, The Right’s Reasons: Constitutional Conflict and the Spread of Woman-Protective Antiabortion Argument\nGregory Klass and Kathryn Zeiler, Against Endowment Theory: Experimental Economics and Legal Scholarship\nJoseph Kearney and Thomas Merrill, The Influence of Amicus Curiae Briefs on the Supreme Court\nWilliam Eskridge Jr., Politics Without Romance: Implications of Public Choice Theory for Statutory Interpretation\nSpecial Guest: Alli Larsen.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhen interpretations and rules depend on what’s true about the world (so, all the time), judges have to reach conclusions about those truths. But courts are not exactly like administrative agencies or legislatures, and they depend on adversarial parties to contest the truth. The Supreme Court, in particular, has come to rely on an elite bar to organize and present facts and studies. Having been through our usual vetting process of successfully appearing on the Colbert Report, Alli Larsen is ready for the big time and joins us to discuss how courts deal with the problem of factiness (which is the ivory tower version of truthiness). Alli’s appearance on the Colbert Report (01:02). The pronunciation of “amicus” (05:24). The main topic (10:36).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlli Larsen’s \u003ca href=\"http://law2.wm.edu/faculty/bios/fulltime/amlarsen.php\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1563578#show2596646\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ssmvma/the-colbert-report-victory-for-gay-marriage---the-rise-of-amicus-briefs---allison-orr-larsen\"\u003eAlli on the Colbert Report\u003c/a\u003e discussing amicus briefs and factfinding\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBefore you write in, yes, the \u003ca href=\"http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/quayle.asp\"\u003eDan Quayle story is false\u003c/a\u003e, but is that really the point?\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/74\"\u003eOral Argument 74: Minimum Curiosity\u003c/a\u003e (guest Amanda Frost)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9689662517807945700\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRowe v. Gibson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlli Orr Lasen, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2741853\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Amicus Machine\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlli Orr Larsen, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2409071\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Trouble with Amicus Facts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlli Orr Larsen, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2226395\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFactual Precedents\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmanda Frost, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1633983\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Limits of Advocacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrianne Gorod, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1805703\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Adversarial Myth: Appellate Court Extra-Record Factfinding\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3459716124628270024\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGlossip v. Gross\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (death penalty)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12960598670321445636\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBrown v. Entertainment Merchants Association\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (violent video games)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandeis_Brief\"\u003ethe Brandeis Brief\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7079370668659431881\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGonzales v. Carhart\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eReva Siegel, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1361\u0026amp;context=dlj\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Right’s Reasons: Constitutional Conflict and the Spread of Woman-Protective Antiabortion Argument\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGregory Klass and Kathryn Zeiler, \u003ca href=\"http://www.uclalawreview.org/against-endowment-theory-experimental-economics-and-legal-scholarship-2/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAgainst Endowment Theory: Experimental Economics and Legal Scholarship\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Kearney and Thomas Merrill, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3356\u0026amp;context=penn_law_review\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Influence of Amicus Curiae Briefs on the Supreme Court\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Eskridge Jr., \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/fss_papers/3824/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePolitics Without Romance: Implications of Public Choice Theory for Statutory Interpretation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Alli Larsen.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Factiness, with Alli Larsen.","date_published":"2016-05-13T12:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/81123cc1-f909-45fe-b8df-b92141735b6f.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":32751964,"duration_in_seconds":3943}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:572cc17a3c44d89d17dada37","title":"Episode 96: Students as Means","url":"https://oralargument.org/96","content_text":"A show about, among other things, the morality of the law journal system. We start with Joe’s ailments and our scheduling issues. (You’re welcome; we know this is why people tune in.) Then a little about online review sessions, Slack, online classes, and video conferencing (2:32). Radiohead, Trump, and Ted Cruz (9:02). Next we open the mail and Twitter bags: Carl Malamud, the re-christened Indigo Book, and the possibility of a transcript of one of our episodes, all followed by Chris Walker’s posts on Prawfsblawg about student law journal podcasts (13:19). Next, listener Justin on laptops in classrooms and unconstitutional and re-constitutional statutes (17:38), Bunny on Oral ArgCon cosplay (25:27). And then this week’s main topic: The weird world of law review publishing and the moral aspects of our participation in it (28:23), including Joe’s description of the process, Christian’s calling Expresso “Espresso” (35:03), the transition to electronic submission and the rise of “expedites” (47:00). “Just tell me what your thesis is.” “Why don’t you tell me what it is?” and morality (52:54). Joe’s world (1:08:19). Christian’s world (1:13:53).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJoseph Miller, The Immorality of Requesting Expedited Review\nSlack\nOral Argument 94: Bonus\nZoom \nAbout Burn the Witch\nAndrew Sullivan, Democracies End When They Are Too Democratic; Jedediah Purdy, What Trump’s Rise Means for Democracy\nRichard Cytowic, Why Ted Cruz’s Facial Expression Make Me Uneasy\nCarl Malamud on Twitter\nOral Argument 91: Baby Blue (guest Chris Sprigman)\nThe Indigo Book (also available as a PDF)\nChris Walker, Complete Junior Law Prawfs FAQs Series (and, particularly, What About Podcasts? and Rethinking Law Review Podcasts)\nNathan H. Saunders, Student-Edited Law Reviews: Reflections and Responses of an Inmate\nMark Twain, The War Prayer; a beautiful animated version\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eA show about, among other things, the morality of the law journal system. We start with Joe’s ailments and our scheduling issues. (You’re welcome; we know this is why people tune in.) Then a little about online review sessions, Slack, online classes, and video conferencing (2:32). Radiohead, Trump, and Ted Cruz (9:02). Next we open the mail and Twitter bags: Carl Malamud, the re-christened Indigo Book, and the possibility of a transcript of one of our episodes, all followed by Chris Walker’s posts on Prawfsblawg about student law journal podcasts (13:19). Next, listener Justin on laptops in classrooms and unconstitutional and re-constitutional statutes (17:38), Bunny on Oral ArgCon cosplay (25:27). And then this week’s main topic: The weird world of law review publishing and the moral aspects of our participation in it (28:23), including Joe’s description of the process, Christian’s calling Expresso “Espresso” (35:03), the transition to electronic submission and the rise of “expedites” (47:00). “Just tell me what your thesis is.” “Why don’t \u003cem\u003eyou\u003c/em\u003e tell me what it is?” and morality (52:54). Joe’s world (1:08:19). Christian’s world (1:13:53).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoseph Miller, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2743299\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Immorality of Requesting Expedited Review\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://slack.com/is\"\u003eSlack\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/94\"\u003eOral Argument 94: Bonus\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://zoom.us/\"\u003eZoom\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn_the_Witch_(Radiohead_song)\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBurn the Witch\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAndrew Sullivan, \u003ca href=\"http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDemocracies End When They Are Too Democratic\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Jedediah Purdy, \u003ca href=\"https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/andrew-sullivan-trump-concern-trolling-for-democracy\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Trump’s Rise Means for Democracy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Cytowic, \u003ca href=\"https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-fallible-mind/201601/why-ted-cruz-s-facial-expression-makes-me-uneasy\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Ted Cruz’s Facial Expression Make Me Uneasy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/carlmalamud\"\u003eCarl Malamud on Twitter\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/91\"\u003eOral Argument 91: Baby Blue\u003c/a\u003e (guest Chris Sprigman)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/blue/IndigoBook.html\"\u003eThe Indigo Book\u003c/a\u003e (also available \u003ca href=\"https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/blue/IndigoBook.pdf\"\u003eas a PDF\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChris Walker, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2016/04/complete-junior-law-prawfs-faqs-series.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eComplete Junior Law Prawfs FAQs Series\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and, particularly, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2016/04/what-about-podcasts-what-about-media-consultations.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat About Podcasts?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2016/04/rethinking-law-review-podcasts-jr-law-prawfs-faq.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRethinking Law Review Podcasts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNathan H. Saunders, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1083\u0026amp;context=dlj\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eStudent-Edited Law Reviews: Reflections and Responses of an Inmate\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Twain, \u003ca href=\"http://warprayer.org\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe War Prayer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRVod4PwQHs\"\u003ea beautiful animated version\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The one on expedited review.","date_published":"2016-05-06T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/d1fdab53-7f9d-4342-9250-732a7d13bb60.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":42217927,"duration_in_seconds":5126}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:571174c3859fd0e4190c1e15","title":"Episode 95: Own the Block","url":"https://oralargument.org/95","content_text":"Do you have a right to film the police? Should people film the police? A lot of attention has been given to the use by police officers of body cameras (and dash cameras), but what about citizens’ filming arrests on the street? With Jocelyn Simonson, we explore the ways that the use of cameras both facilitates and is expression.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJocelyn Simonson’s facult profile and writing\nOral Argument 64: Protect and Serve (guest Seth Stoughton)\nJocelyn Simonson, Beyond Body Cameras: Defending a Robust Right to Record the Police\nTimothy Williams, James Thomas, Samuel Jacoby, and Damien Cave, Police Body Cameras: What Do You See? (an interactive NY Times feature using videos created by Seth Stoughton); see also Jason Kottke’s link to this piece, which also features links to related ideas in film direction\nThe Chicago Police Accountability Task Force (with links to the report); see also Monica Davey and Mitch Smith, Chicago Police Dept. Plagued by Systemic Racism, Task Force Finds\nACLU of Illinois v. Alvarez (featuring a dissent by Judge Posner)\nFloyd v. City of New York (the stop and frisk case); see also p.597 of the same case for the judge’s quotations of police, some used in Jocelyn’s paper, evincing a “contempt and hostility . . . toward the local population”)\nThis American Life 414: The Right to Remain Silent, Act Two (“For 17 months, New York police officer Adrian Schoolcraft recorded himself and his fellow officers on the job, including their supervisors ordering them to do all sorts of things that police aren't supposed to do.”) \nJocelyn Simonson, Copwatching\nAbout the panopticon\nSeth Stoughton, Law Enforcement’s ‘Warrior’ Problem (read online here if you don’t want the PDF)\nAbout Stephen Colbert’s performance at the 2006 White House Correspondents’ Dinner (Here’s the video.)\nCity of Houston v. Hill (“Why don’t you pick on somebody your own size?”)\nFields v. City of Philadelphia (finding no First Amendment right to film police officers)\nSamuel Warren and and Louis Brandeis, The Right to Privacy\nOral Argument 1: Send Joe to Prison (guest Sonja West)\nSonja West, First Amendment Neighbors\nSonja West, The Monster in the Courtroom\nSpecial Guest: Jocelyn Simonson.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eDo you have a right to film the police? Should people film the police? A lot of attention has been given to the use by police officers of body cameras (and dash cameras), but what about citizens’ filming arrests on the street? With Jocelyn Simonson, we explore the ways that the use of cameras both facilitates and is expression.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJocelyn Simonson’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.brooklaw.edu/faculty/directory/facultymember/biography?id=jocelyn.simonson\"\u003efacult profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=700555\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/64\"\u003eOral Argument 64: Protect and Serve\u003c/a\u003e (guest Seth Stoughton)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJocelyn Simonson, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2758941\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBeyond Body Cameras: Defending a Robust Right to Record the Police\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTimothy Williams, James Thomas, Samuel Jacoby, and Damien Cave, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/01/us/police-bodycam-video.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePolice Body Cameras: What Do You See?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (an interactive NY Times feature using videos created by Seth Stoughton); see also \u003ca href=\"http://kottke.org/16/04/the-inadvertent-cinematography-of-police-body-cameras\"\u003eJason Kottke’s link to this piece\u003c/a\u003e, which also features links to related ideas in film direction\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://chicagopatf.org\"\u003eThe Chicago Police Accountability Task Force\u003c/a\u003e (with links to the report); see also Monica Davey and Mitch Smith, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/us/chicago-police-dept-plagued-by-systemic-racism-task-force-finds.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChicago Police Dept. Plagued by Systemic Racism, Task Force Finds\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4027403108062769854\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eACLU of Illinois v. Alvarez\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (featuring a \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4027403108062769854\u0026amp;hl=en\u0026amp;as_sdt=80006#p608\"\u003edissent by Judge Posner\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=390056199313197546\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFloyd v. City of New York\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the stop and frisk case); see also \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=390056199313197546\u0026amp;hl=en\u0026amp;as_sdt=80006#p597\"\u003ep.597 of the same case\u003c/a\u003e for the judge’s quotations of police, some used in Jocelyn’s paper, evincing a “contempt and hostility . . . toward the local population”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent?act=2\"\u003eThis American Life 414: The Right to Remain Silent, Act Two\u003c/a\u003e (“For 17 months, New York police officer Adrian Schoolcraft recorded himself and his fellow officers on the job, including their supervisors ordering them to do all sorts of things that police aren't supposed to do.”) \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJocelyn Simonson, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2571470\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCopwatching\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon\"\u003eAbout the panopticon\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSeth Stoughton, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2593798\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaw Enforcement’s ‘Warrior’ Problem\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (\u003ca href=\"http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/04/law-enforcements-warrior-problem/\"\u003eread online here\u003c/a\u003e if you don’t want the PDF)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert_at_the_2006_White_House_Correspondents%27_Association_Dinner\"\u003eAbout Stephen Colbert’s performance at the 2006 White House Correspondents’ Dinner\u003c/a\u003e (\u003ca href=\"http://www.c-span.org/video/?192243-1/2006-white-house-correspondents-dinner\"\u003eHere’s the video.\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3837274703391855779\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCity of Houston v. Hill\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (“Why don’t you pick on somebody your own size?”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://phillylawblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/the-trial-court-opinion.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFields v. City of Philadelphia\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (finding no First Amendment right to film police officers)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSamuel Warren and and Louis Brandeis, \u003ca href=\"http://faculty.uml.edu/sgallagher/Brandeisprivacy.htm\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Right to Privacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/1\"\u003eOral Argument 1: Send Joe to Prison\u003c/a\u003e (guest Sonja West)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSonja West, \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.ua.edu/pubs/lrarticles/Volume%2066/Issue%202/West%20.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFirst Amendment Neighbors\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSonja West, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2208518\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Monster in the Courtroom\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Jocelyn Simonson.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Filming the police, with Jocelyn Simonson.","date_published":"2016-04-15T19:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/d64dd1d5-9cd3-4fa6-9c39-bcfa9c89578a.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37137653,"duration_in_seconds":4491}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:570932715559863dc75cc0af","title":"Episode 94: Bonus","url":"https://oralargument.org/94","content_text":"This is something different, a recording of a conversation we had for Christian’s Modern American Legal Theory class, which is being run online this semester. It’s a discussion of, among other things, the place of the public/private distinction in law and legal theory, critical legal studies, two-by-two boxes, and the vices and virtues of “universalization.” We had fun with it. So here’s a bonus episode.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDuncan Kennedy, The Stages of the Decline of the Public/Private Distinction\nChristian Turner, Origins of the Public/Private Theory of Legal Systems\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThis is something different, a recording of a conversation we had for Christian’s Modern American Legal Theory class, which is being run online this semester. It’s a discussion of, among other things, the place of the public/private distinction in law and legal theory, critical legal studies, two-by-two boxes, and the vices and virtues of “universalization.” We had fun with it. So here’s a bonus episode.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDuncan Kennedy, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4675\u0026amp;context=penn_law_review\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Stages of the Decline of the Public/Private Distinction\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2380767\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOrigins of the Public/Private Theory of Legal Systems\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The one about the public/private distinction.","date_published":"2016-04-09T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/3fde2555-39a3-4f0b-a5e0-817e4caa1f16.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":25124451,"duration_in_seconds":2990}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:57007b497c65e42063ebaccb","title":"Episode 93: Driveby","url":"https://oralargument.org/93","content_text":"We respond to accumulated listener feedback in one unedited take.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nThis space intentionally left blank. No links this week.\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe respond to accumulated listener feedback in one unedited take.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThis space intentionally left blank. No links this week.\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"All viewer mail.","date_published":"2016-04-02T22:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/8f32879c-f98e-4673-8f90-0b5014b5fcc8.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":44354282,"duration_in_seconds":5394}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:56ec758fc6fc08c51ce33677","title":"Episode 92: Deficit Peacock","url":"https://oralargument.org/92","content_text":"We’re joined by tax scholar Daniel Hemel to discuss a puzzling problem. Why don’t presidents use their regulatory powers to affect tax law like they do to affect the law in many other areas? But before that, we talk about Christian’s birthday disappointment (0:01:15) and law reviews and the Bluebook (0:06:47). Then we talk Joe’s Oral Argument cruise proposal and segue to today’s topic (0:21:32), a president’s power to tax (0:27:19), an example of “carried interest” (the tax issue that flared up in the 2012 presidential campaign) (0:37:12), Daniel’s game-theoretic model and discussion of hawks, peacocks, debt ceilings, and presidential hand-offs (1:04:36).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDaniel Hemel’s faculty profile and writing\nOral Argument 91: Baby Blue (guest Chris Sprigman)\nOrin Kerr, A Theory of Law\nChristopher Cotropia and James Gibson, The Upside of Intellectual Property's Downside\nDaniel Hemel, The President’s Power to Tax (forthcoming so watch this space)\nThe Joint Committee on Taxation’s Bluebooks\nU.S. Treasury’s Greenbooks\nNational Muffler Dealers Ass’n v. United States\nMayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research v. United States\n26 U.S.C. sec. 385\nGregg Polsky, Can Treasury Overrule the Supreme Court?\nVictor Fleischer, Two and Twenty: Taxing Partnership Profits in Private Equity Funds\nMatthew Yglesias, Jeb Bush Wants You to Think He’d Raise Taxes on Hedge Fund Managers. He’d Actually Cut Them. (see the second section, Carried interest, explained)\nVictor Fleischer, Why Hedge Funds Don’t Worry About Carried Interest Tax Rules\nDavid Lebedoff, Why Doesn’t Obama End the Hedge Fund Tax Break?\nAbout the Pay-As-You-Go-Act of 2010\nAbout hawk-dove games\nAbout Margaret Chase Smith\nSpecial Guest: Daniel Hemel.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe’re joined by tax scholar Daniel Hemel to discuss a puzzling problem. Why don’t presidents use their regulatory powers to affect tax law like they do to affect the law in many other areas? But before that, we talk about Christian’s birthday disappointment (0:01:15) and law reviews and the Bluebook (0:06:47). Then we talk Joe’s Oral Argument cruise proposal and segue to today’s topic (0:21:32), a president’s power to tax (0:27:19), an example of “carried interest” (the tax issue that flared up in the 2012 presidential campaign) (0:37:12), Daniel’s game-theoretic model and discussion of hawks, peacocks, debt ceilings, and presidential hand-offs (1:04:36).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Hemel’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/hemel\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1358581#reg\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/91\"\u003eOral Argument 91: Baby Blue\u003c/a\u003e (guest Chris Sprigman)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrin Kerr, \u003ca href=\"http://www.greenbag.org/v16n1/v16n1_ex_post_kerr.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Theory of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher Cotropia and James Gibson, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1398845\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Upside of Intellectual Property's Downside\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Hemel, \u003cem\u003eThe President’s Power to Tax\u003c/em\u003e (forthcoming so watch this space)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.jct.gov/publications.html?func=select\u0026amp;id=9\"\u003eThe Joint Committee on Taxation’s Bluebooks\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/tax-policy/Pages/general_explanation.aspx\"\u003eU.S. Treasury’s Greenbooks\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4624414795499697704\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNational Muffler Dealers Ass’n v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3055490070969307951\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/385\"\u003e26 U.S.C. sec. 385\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGregg Polsky, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=455520\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCan Treasury Overrule the Supreme Court?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eVictor Fleischer, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=892440\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTwo and Twenty: Taxing Partnership Profits in Private Equity Funds\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew Yglesias, \u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/2015/9/21/9365061/jeb-bush-hedge-fund-tax\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJeb Bush Wants You to Think He’d Raise Taxes on Hedge Fund Managers. He’d Actually Cut Them.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see the second section, \u003cem\u003eCarried interest, explained\u003c/em\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eVictor Fleischer, \u003ca href=\"http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/05/14/why-hedge-funds-dont-worry-about-carried-interest-tax-rules/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Hedge Funds Don’t Worry About Carried Interest Tax Rules\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Lebedoff, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2014/06/taxation_of_carried_interest_the_loophole_for_hedge_fund_managers_could.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Doesn’t Obama End the Hedge Fund Tax Break?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_Pay-as-You-Go_Act\"\u003eAbout the Pay-As-You-Go-Act of 2010\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_%28game%29\"\u003eAbout hawk-dove games\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Chase_Smith\"\u003eAbout Margaret Chase Smith\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Daniel Hemel.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The President's power to tax, with Daniel Hemel.","date_published":"2016-03-18T17:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/1c4edc62-a5ee-4ef2-b9a1-4d8eb88826e1.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":41324785,"duration_in_seconds":5015}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:56db0c0af699bb4be0ffd2f2","title":"Episode 91: Baby Blue","url":"https://oralargument.org/91","content_text":"In a world where a single power controlled the language of justice itself, one man (well, several people and a bunch of students, but anyway) rose up to … produce a free guide to the standardized practices of legal citation. Copyright scholar Chris Sprigman joins us to talk about two of his projects: Baby Blue, the open guide to legal citation, and the Restatement of Copyright. Our conversation: about Baby Blue (0:01:33), what in the Bluebook might be copyrightable (0:10:07), trademark and the two manuals’ names and colors (0:23:44), simplification of citation (0:39:43), and the Restatement of Copyright (0:56:52).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nChris Sprigman’s faculty profile, twitter, and writing\nBaby Blue: web page and PDF\nOral Argument 88: The Blue Line\nThe Bluebook\nLinks to correspondence between lawyers for The Bluebook and others and the Baby Blue team\nZotero and Papers\nThe University of Chicago’s Citation Management for Law Students; Georgetown’s Bluebook Citation Resources and Detailed Feature Comparison\nCory Doctorow, Five Years of Being Intimidated by the Harvard Bluebook’s Copyright Policies; FGBR, The Bluebook: A Plot Summary\nThe Baby Blue public request for comments\nSubject matter of copyright: In general (s.102(b))\nLotus v. Borland\nThe University of Chicago Law Review, The Maroonbook\nMcNeil Nutritionals v. Heartland Sweeteners (3d Cir. 2007) and later proceedings\nAmerican Law Institute, Restatement of Copyright\nAbout secondary liability for copyright infringement\nCartoon Network v. CSC Holdings and Cablevision Systems (whether 1.2 seconds of buffering on a hard drive is a “fixation”)\nSpecial Guest: Christopher Sprigman.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIn a world where a single power controlled the language of justice itself, one man (well, several people and a bunch of students, but anyway) rose up to … produce a free guide to the standardized practices of legal citation. Copyright scholar Chris Sprigman joins us to talk about two of his projects: Baby Blue, the open guide to legal citation, and the Restatement of Copyright. Our conversation: about Baby Blue (0:01:33), what in the Bluebook might be copyrightable (0:10:07), trademark and the two manuals’ names and colors (0:23:44), simplification of citation (0:39:43), and the Restatement of Copyright (0:56:52).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChris Sprigman’s \u003ca href=\"https://its.law.nyu.edu/facultyprofiles/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.overview\u0026amp;personid=37891\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/CJSprigman\"\u003etwitter\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=370802\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cem\u003eBaby Blue\u003c/em\u003e: \u003ca href=\"https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/blue/BabyBlue.20160205.html\"\u003eweb page\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/blue/BabyBlue.20160205.pdf\"\u003ePDF\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/88\"\u003eOral Argument 88: The Blue Line\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.legalbluebook.com\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Bluebook\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/blue/\"\u003eLinks to correspondence between lawyers for The Bluebook and others and the Baby Blue team\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.zotero.org\"\u003eZotero\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.papersapp.com\"\u003ePapers\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe University of Chicago’s \u003ca href=\"http://guides.lib.uchicago.edu/zotero4law\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCitation Management for Law Students\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Georgetown’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.georgetown.edu/library/research/citation-tools/bluebook.cfm\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBluebook Citation Resources\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.georgetown.edu/library/research/citation-tools/features.cfm\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDetailed Feature Comparison\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCory Doctorow, \u003ca href=\"http://boingboing.net/2014/05/16/five-years-of-being-intimidate.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFive Years of Being Intimidated by the Harvard Bluebook’s Copyright Policies\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; FGBR, \u003ca href=\"http://citationstylist.org/2014/05/16/the-bluebook-a-plot-summary/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Bluebook: A Plot Summary\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/blue/BabyBlue.20160205.html#SM\"\u003eThe \u003cem\u003eBaby Blue\u003c/em\u003e public request for comments\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#102\"\u003eSubject matter of copyright: In general (s.102(b))\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9888762079230732186\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLotus v. Borland\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe University of Chicago Law Review, \u003ca href=\"https://lawreview.uchicago.edu/page/maroonbook\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Maroonbook\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3472055491455926107\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMcNeil Nutritionals v. Heartland Sweeteners\u003c/em\u003e (3d Cir. 2007)\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5025075648084000251\"\u003elater proceedings\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmerican Law Institute, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ali.org/projects/show/copyright/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRestatement of Copyright\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_liability\"\u003eAbout secondary liability for copyright infringement\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13763893657469687275\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCartoon Network v. CSC Holdings and Cablevision Systems\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (whether 1.2 seconds of buffering on a hard drive is a “fixation”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Christopher Sprigman.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Baby Blue, the Bluebook, and copyright, with Chris Sprigman.","date_published":"2016-03-05T11:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/3bcb6a52-8c90-41b3-ab3b-c7ad7adf461b.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":36823167,"duration_in_seconds":4452}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:56d1e2ccd210b8b23f162f02","title":"Episode 90: We Are a Nation of Time-Shifters","url":"https://oralargument.org/90","content_text":"Our main topic is fair use, the engine of so much cultural reuse and advancement. We’re joined by one of the doctrine’s most interesting scholars, Mike Madison. But the conversation spans: Joe’s telecomm cursing issues (0:00:36), FBiPhones and the Apple-FBI imbroglio (0:09:26), and fair use (0:28:27), including discussion of Mike’s Big Idea of social practices (0:53:03), reverse engineering, parody, video tapes, and much more.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMike Madison’s website, writing, and blog\nFCC v. Pacifica Foundation\nFCC v. Fox (Fox II) (containing a link to Fox I)\nThis American Life 267: Propriety (It’s all good, but the discussion of the legal issue in Fox is at about 19:15.)\nAmy Davidson, The Dangerous All Writs Act Precedent in the Apple Encryption Case\nJohn Gruber, The Next Step in iPhone Impregnability\nOral Argument 80: We’ll Do It LIVE!\nOral Argument 42: Shotgun Aphasia (guest Orin Kerr)\nOrin Kerr, An Equilibrium-Adjustment Theory of the Fourth Amendment\nApple’s motion to vacate the order to assist the FBI\nRiley v. California (and see Orin Kerr’s post about the case shortly after it was decided\nAbout Fair Use Week\nTy v. Publications Int’l (Judge Posner, giving an explanation of market substitution and fair use); see also Richard Posner, When Is Parody Fair Use?\nSuntrust Bank v. Houghton Mifflin Co.\nKey, lower-court cases deciding whether university course packets qualify for fair use protection: Basic Books Inc. v. Kinko’s Graphics Corp., Princeton Univ. v. Michigan Document Services, and, most recently, Cambridge University Press v. Patton\nDavid Fagundes, Market Harm, Market Help, and Fair Use\nKickstarter page for Star Trek: Axanar, an independent Star Trek film (includes the twenty-minute video Prelude to Axanar)\nRyan Reed, Crowdfunded 'Star Trek' Movie Facing Copyright Infringement Lawsuit; Eriq Gardner, 'Star Trek' Fans Want Paramount, CBS to Do Better Job Explaining Franchise to Court\nSee also the unrelated and rather amazing Star Trek New Voyages, a nonprofit web series; and Paul Post, A ‘Star Trek’ Dream, Spread From Upstate New York\nA googol\nStatement of the Librarian of Congress Relating to Section 1201 Rulemaking; about anti-circumvention exemptions\nElectronic Frontier Foundation, Victory for Users: Librarian of Congress Renews and Expands Protections for Fair Uses\nMichael Madison, A Pattern-Oriented Approach to Fair Use\nSony Corp. v. Universal City Studios\nJoel Hruska, How Sony’s Betamax Made YouTube and Twitch Possible\nSega v. Accolade\nFrank Pasquale, Toward an Ecology of Intellectual Property: Lessons from Environmental Ecology for Valuing Copyright’s Commons\nRandy Picker, Closing the Xbox\nSony Computer Entertainment v. Connectix Corp.\nMGM v. Grokster\nJonathan Zittrain, The Generative Internet\nHorace Dediu, Seeing What’s Next (featuring a wonderful graph showing the adoption rates of various technologies, including the VCR); see also Derek Thompson, The 100-Year March of Technology in One Graph\nEduardo Peñalver and Sonia Katyal, Property Outlaws: How Squatters, Pirates, and Protesters Improve the Law of Ownership (see also this article-length treatment)\nEben Moglen, Freeing the Mind: Free Software and the Death of Proprietary Culture (“It is wrong to ask, ‘What is the incentive for people to create?’ It's an emergent property of connected human minds that they do create.”)\nJennifer Rothman, The Questionable Use of Custom in Intellectual Property\nMichael Madison, Madisonian Fair Use\nSpecial Guest: Mike Madison.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eOur main topic is fair use, the engine of so much cultural reuse and advancement. We’re joined by one of the doctrine’s most interesting scholars, Mike Madison. But the conversation spans: Joe’s telecomm cursing issues (0:00:36), FBiPhones and the Apple-FBI imbroglio (0:09:26), and fair use (0:28:27), including discussion of Mike’s Big Idea of social practices (0:53:03), reverse engineering, parody, video tapes, and much more.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMike Madison’s \u003ca href=\"http://madisonian.net/home/\"\u003ewebsite\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://madisonian.net/home/?page_id=85\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://madisonian.net\"\u003eblog\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9738309099999149495\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFCC v. Pacifica Foundation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9187101700166207966\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFCC v. Fox\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (\u003cem\u003eFox II\u003c/em\u003e) (containing a link to \u003cem\u003eFox I\u003c/em\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/267/propriety?act=1#play\"\u003eThis American Life 267: Propriety\u003c/a\u003e (It’s all good, but the discussion of the legal issue in \u003cem\u003eFox\u003c/em\u003e is at about 19:15.)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmy Davidson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/a-dangerous-all-writ-precedent-in-the-apple-case\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Dangerous All Writs Act Precedent in the Apple Encryption Case\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Gruber, \u003ca href=\"http://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/02/24/iphone-impregnability\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Next Step in iPhone Impregnability\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/80\"\u003eOral Argument 80: We’ll Do It LIVE!\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/42\"\u003eOral Argument 42: Shotgun Aphasia\u003c/a\u003e (guest Orin Kerr)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrin Kerr, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1748222\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAn Equilibrium-Adjustment Theory of the Fourth Amendment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2722199/5-15-MJ-00451-SP-USA-v-Black-Lexus-IS300.pdf\"\u003eApple’s motion to vacate the order to assist the FBI\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9647156672357738355\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRiley v. California\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and see \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/06/25/the-significance-of-riley/\"\u003eOrin Kerr’s post about the case\u003c/a\u003e shortly after it was decided\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://blogs.harvard.edu/copyrightosc/about-fair-use-week/\"\u003eFair Use Week\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5895022425719465207\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTy v. Publications Int’l\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Judge Posner, giving an explanation of market substitution and fair use); see also Richard Posner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/724401\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhen Is Parody Fair Use?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13094222792307527660\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSuntrust Bank v. Houghton Mifflin Co.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKey, lower-court cases deciding whether university course packets qualify for fair use protection: \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2056409483539120279\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBasic Books Inc. v. Kinko’s Graphics Corp.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16442235277086819776\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePrinceton Univ. v. Michigan Document Services\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, and, most recently, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12627493296032837499\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCambridge University Press v. Patton\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Fagundes, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2379213\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMarket Harm, Market Help, and Fair Use\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/star-trek-axanar/description\"\u003eKickstarter page for \u003cem\u003eStar Trek: Axanar\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, an independent Star Trek film (includes the twenty-minute video \u003cem\u003ePrelude to Axanar\u003c/em\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRyan Reed, \u003ca href=\"http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/crowdfunded-star-trek-movie-facing-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-20151230\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCrowdfunded 'Star Trek' Movie Facing Copyright Infringement Lawsuit\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Eriq Gardner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/star-trek-fans-want-paramount-868691\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e'Star Trek' Fans Want Paramount, CBS to Do Better Job Explaining Franchise to Court\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSee also the unrelated and rather amazing \u003ca href=\"http://www.startreknewvoyages.com\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eStar Trek New Voyages\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, a nonprofit web series; and Paul Post, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/12/nyregion/a-star-trek-dream-spread-from-upstate-new-york.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA ‘Star Trek’ Dream, Spread From Upstate New York\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googol\"\u003eA googol\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2010/Librarian-of-Congress-1201-Statement.html\"\u003eStatement of the Librarian of Congress Relating to Section 1201 Rulemaking\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act#Anti-circumvention_exemptions\"\u003eabout anti-circumvention exemptions\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eElectronic Frontier Foundation, \u003ca href=\"https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/victory-users-librarian-congress-renews-and-expands-protections-fair-uses\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVictory for Users: Librarian of Congress Renews and Expands Protections for Fair Uses\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Madison, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=442441\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Pattern-Oriented Approach to Fair Use\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5876335373788447272\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSony Corp. v. Universal City Studios\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoel Hruska, \u003ca href=\"http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/217823-how-sonys-betamax-made-youtube-and-twitch-possible\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow Sony’s Betamax Made YouTube and Twitch Possible\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12221231553971530035\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSega v. Accolade\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Pasquale, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1025\u0026amp;context=yjolt\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eToward an Ecology of Intellectual Property: Lessons from Environmental Ecology for Valuing Copyright’s Commons\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRandy Picker, \u003ca href=\"http://uchicagolaw.typepad.com/faculty/2006/06/closing_the_xbo.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eClosing the Xbox\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7166769136737271634\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSony Computer Entertainment v. Connectix Corp.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8647956476676426155\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMGM v. Grokster\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJonathan Zittrain, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=847124\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Generative Internet\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHorace Dediu, \u003ca href=\"http://www.asymco.com/2013/11/18/seeing-whats-next-2/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSeeing What’s Next\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (featuring a wonderful graph showing the adoption rates of various technologies, including the VCR); see also Derek Thompson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/04/the-100-year-march-of-technology-in-1-graph/255573/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe 100-Year March of Technology in One Graph\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEduardo Peñalver and Sonia Katyal, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=DidTFh2FhGMC\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eProperty Outlaws: How Squatters, Pirates, and Protesters Improve the Law of Ownership\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see also \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=745324\"\u003ethis article-length treatment\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEben Moglen, \u003ca href=\"http://moglen.law.columbia.edu/publications/maine-speech.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFreeing the Mind: Free Software and the Death of Proprietary Culture\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (“It is wrong to ask, ‘What is the incentive for people to create?’ It's an emergent property of connected human minds that they do create.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJennifer Rothman, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=982415\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Questionable Use of Custom in Intellectual Property\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Madison, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2066656\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMadisonian Fair Use\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Mike Madison.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On fair use, with Mike Madison.","date_published":"2016-02-27T13:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/6d1b2c18-1e55-4e01-b83c-58cade8893b6.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":44771276,"duration_in_seconds":5446}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:56c7c1780442626b25924980","title":"Episode 89: Adequacy","url":"https://oralargument.org/89","content_text":"This week we tackle the simple and uncontroversial topic of education funding with Josh Weishart. We plumb the depths of equity, equality, luck, adequacy, and sufficiency. Legislatures vs. courts, duties and immunities. Luckily Josh saves us from our usual inadequacy.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJosh Weishart’s faculty profile and writing\nAmy Piller, I’m a New York City school administrator. Here’s how segregation lives on.\nJoshua Weishart, Transcending Equality Versus Adequacy\nSan Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez\nAbout John Rawls’ Difference Principle\nElizabeth Anderson, What Is the Point of Equality?\nDebra Satz, Equality, Adequacy, and Educational Policy\nGannon v. State; and a summary of school finance litigation in New Jersey\nMark Kelman and Gillian Lester, Jumping the Queue\nJoshua Weishart, Reconstituting the Right to Education\nChristian Turner, Origins of the Public/Private Theory of Legal Systems\nAbout Hohfeld\nScott Bauries, State Constitutions and Individual Rights: Conceptual Convergence in School Finance Litigation; Scott Bauries, Is There an Elephant in the Room?: Judicial Review of Educational Adequacy and the Separation of Powers in State Constitutions\nSpecial Guest: Joshua Weishart.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThis week we tackle the simple and uncontroversial topic of education funding with Josh Weishart. We plumb the depths of equity, equality, luck, adequacy, and sufficiency. Legislatures vs. courts, duties and immunities. Luckily Josh saves us from our usual inadequacy.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Weishart’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.wvu.edu/faculty-staff/full-time-faculty/joshua-weishart\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1785613\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmy Piller, \u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/2016/2/16/10980856/new-york-city-schools-segregation\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eI’m a New York City school administrator. Here’s how segregation lives on.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoshua Weishart, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2288059\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTranscending Equality Versus Adequacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13531894237346705488\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSan Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/justice-distributive/#Difference\"\u003eAbout John Rawls’ Difference Principle\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eElizabeth Anderson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/233897?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Is the Point of Equality?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDebra Satz, \u003ca href=\"http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/edfp.2008.3.4.424#.VsezFceaTiw\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEquality, Adequacy, and Educational Policy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1976767590316149703\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGannon v. State\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; and \u003ca href=\"http://schoolfunding.info/2015/01/school-funding-cases-in-new-jersey/\"\u003ea summary of school finance litigation in New Jersey\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Kelman and Gillian Lester, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=MmUPUYYNsAEC\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJumping the Queue\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoshua Weishart, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2288059\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReconstituting the Right to Education\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2380767\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOrigins of the Public/Private Theory of Legal Systems\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Newcomb_Hohfeld\"\u003eAbout Hohfeld\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Bauries, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1598523\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState Constitutions and Individual Rights: Conceptual Convergence in School Finance Litigation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Scott Bauries, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1366163\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs There an Elephant in the Room?: Judicial Review of Educational Adequacy and the Separation of Powers in State Constitutions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Joshua Weishart.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Education battles, with Josh Weishart.","date_published":"2016-02-19T20:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/da47d89c-e86a-4bac-81c2-2f88c40d88d6.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37375036,"duration_in_seconds":4521}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:56bf2440c6fc0810908a04fb","title":"Episode 88: The Blue Line","url":"https://oralargument.org/88","content_text":"We record live at the University of Georgia School of Law at the invitation of the Georgia Law Review. The main topic is law journals, but we also give an update on Christian’s crumbling infrastructure, talk about gravitational waves, and introduce a new and complete system of citation.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nBaby Blue: web page and PDF\nThe Bluebook\nDavid Post, The New (and Much Improved) ‘Bluebook’ Caught in the Copyright Cross-Hairs\nLinks to correspondence between lawyers for The Bluebook and others and the Baby Blue team\nOral Argument 73: Looking for the Splines\nB.P. Abbott et al. (LIGO Scientific Collaboration and Virgo Collaboration), Observation of Gravitational Waves from a Binary Black Hole Merger (and see the article and video at the Times: Dennis Overbye, Gravitational Waves Detected, Confirming Einstein’s Theory)\nDavid Foster Wallace, Tense Present (an earlier version of Authority and American Usage in Consider the Lobster and Other Essays)\nRobot or Not\nThe Oyez podcast feed for 2015 Supreme Court oral argument and the collection of Oyez feeds in iTunes\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe record live at the University of Georgia School of Law at the invitation of the Georgia Law Review. The main topic is law journals, but we also give an update on Christian’s crumbling infrastructure, talk about gravitational waves, and introduce a new and complete system of citation.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBaby Blue: \u003ca href=\"https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/blue/BabyBlue.20160205.html\"\u003eweb page\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/blue/BabyBlue.20160205.pdf\"\u003ePDF\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.legalbluebook.com\"\u003eThe Bluebook\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Post, \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/02/09/the-new-and-much-improved-bluebook-caught-in-the-copyright-cross-hairs/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe New (and Much Improved) ‘Bluebook’ Caught in the Copyright Cross-Hairs\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/blue/\"\u003eLinks to correspondence between lawyers for The Bluebook and others and the Baby Blue team\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/73\"\u003eOral Argument 73: Looking for the Splines\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eB.P. Abbott et al. (LIGO Scientific Collaboration and Virgo Collaboration), \u003ca href=\"http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.061102\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eObservation of Gravitational Waves from a Binary Black Hole Merger\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and see the article and video at the Times: Dennis Overbye, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/science/ligo-gravitational-waves-black-holes-einstein.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGravitational Waves Detected, Confirming Einstein’s Theory\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Foster Wallace, \u003ca href=\"http://harpers.org/wp-content/uploads/HarpersMagazine-2001-04-0070913.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTense Present\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (an earlier version of \u003cem\u003eAuthority and American Usage\u003c/em\u003e in \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consider_the_Lobster\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eConsider the Lobster and Other Essays\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.theincomparable.com/robot/\"\u003eRobot or Not\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://api.oyez.org/podcasts/oral-arguments/2015\"\u003eThe Oyez podcast feed for 2015 Supreme Court oral argument\u003c/a\u003e and the \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/oyez/id1035429757\"\u003ecollection of Oyez feeds in iTunes\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"LIVE! At the law school.","date_published":"2016-02-13T08:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/b8d0ec5e-8dc8-433f-b0e6-27604df82e78.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":46774030,"duration_in_seconds":4557}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:56ae7c99d51cd423ed86463b","title":"Episode 87: Content of the Mark","url":"https://oralargument.org/87","content_text":"Joined in the studio by IP scholar Mark McKenna, yielding a two to one ratio of IP to non-IP people at headquarters, we discuss: the dilapidated state of headquarters (0:00), computers in the classroom and the first installment of Joe’s Quandary (6:11), topics we do not yet but one day will discuss and the topic for our upcoming live show (15:25), the speech implications of the revocation of trademark registration as with the Washington football team (20:12), and Knitting with Joe and one other bit of feedback (1:20:15).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMark McKenna’s faculty profile and writing\nThe Clear Sky Chart forecast for Athens, Georgia, containing explanations of transparency and seeing\nDan Rockmore, The Case for Banning Laptops in the Classroom\nClay Shirky, Why I Just Asked My Students To Put Their Laptops Away\nPam Mueller and Daniel Oppenheimer, The Pen Is Mightier Than the Keyboard: Advantages of Longhand Over Laptop Note Taking\nAnne Curzan, Why I’m Asking You Not to Use Laptops\nRebecca Schuman, In Defense of Laptops in the Classroom\nOral Argument 71: Rolex Tube Socks (guest Mark McKenna)\nMark McKenna, Trademark Year in Review\nIn re Simon Shiao Tam\nPro-Football, Inc. v. Blackhorse\nAmicus: The Case of the Missing Constitutional Violation\nChristine Haight Farley and Robert Tsai, The First Amendment and the Redskins’ Trademark, Part II: A Shot Across the Bow from the Federal Circuit (also containing a link to part one)\nChristine Haight Farley, Registering Offense: The Prohibition of Slurs as Trademarks \nLilit Voskanyan, The Trademark Principal Register as a Nonpublic Forum\nTheodore Davis, Registration of Scandalous, Immoral, and Disparaging Matter Under Section 2(a) of the Lanham Act: Can One Man's Vulgarity Be Another's Registered Trademark?\nThe National Speed Trap Exchange\nSpecial Guest: Mark McKenna.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoined in the studio by IP scholar Mark McKenna, yielding a two to one ratio of IP to non-IP people at headquarters, we discuss: the dilapidated state of headquarters (0:00), computers in the classroom and the first installment of Joe’s Quandary (6:11), topics we do not yet but one day will discuss and the topic for our upcoming live show (15:25), the speech implications of the revocation of trademark registration as with the Washington football team (20:12), and Knitting with Joe and one other bit of feedback (1:20:15).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark McKenna’s \u003ca href=\"http://law.nd.edu/directory/mark-mckenna/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=347075\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.cleardarksky.com/c/UGrgObGAkey.html?1\"\u003eClear Sky Chart forecast\u003c/a\u003e for Athens, Georgia, containing explanations of transparency and seeing\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDan Rockmore, \u003ca href=\"http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/the-case-for-banning-laptops-in-the-classroom\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Case for Banning Laptops in the Classroom\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eClay Shirky, \u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/@cshirky/why-i-just-asked-my-students-to-put-their-laptops-away-7f5f7c50f368#.et74t7wlo\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy I Just Asked My Students To Put Their Laptops Away\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePam Mueller and Daniel Oppenheimer, \u003ca href=\"http://drawingchildrenintoreading.com/assets/the_pen_is_mightier_than_the_keyboard-libre.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Pen Is Mightier Than the Keyboard: Advantages of Longhand Over Laptop Note Taking\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnne Curzan, \u003ca href=\"http://chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/2014/08/25/why-im-asking-you-not-to-use-laptops/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy I’m Asking You Not to Use Laptops\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRebecca Schuman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/life/education/2014/06/in_defense_of_laptops_in_the_college_classroom.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIn Defense of Laptops in the Classroom\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/71\"\u003eOral Argument 71: Rolex Tube Socks\u003c/a\u003e (guest Mark McKenna)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark McKenna, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2645863\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTrademark Year in Review\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4744670040595630679\"\u003eIn re \u003cem\u003eSimon Shiao Tam\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16766417963145004682\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePro-Football, Inc. v. Blackhorse\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/amicus/2016/01/the_supreme_court_asks_whether_the_first_amendment_mostly_protects_speakers.html\"\u003eAmicus: The Case of the Missing Constitutional Violation\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristine Haight Farley and Robert Tsai, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2015/04/the-first-amendment-and-the-redskins-trademark-part-ii-a-shot-across-the-bow-from-the-federal-circui.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe First Amendment and the Redskins’ Trademark, Part II: A Shot Across the Bow from the Federal Circuit\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (also containing a link to part one)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristine Haight Farley, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2443423\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRegistering Offense: The Prohibition of Slurs as Trademarks\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLilit Voskanyan, \u003ca href=\"https://lawreview.uchicago.edu/sites/lawreview.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/75.3/75_3_Voskanyan.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Trademark Principal Register as a Nonpublic Forum\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTheodore Davis, \u003ca href=\"http://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/1811/64637/OSLJ_V54N2_0331.pdf?sequence=1\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRegistration of Scandalous, Immoral, and Disparaging Matter Under Section 2(a) of the Lanham Act: Can One Man's Vulgarity Be Another's Registered Trademark?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.speedtrap.org\"\u003eThe National Speed Trap Exchange\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Mark McKenna.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Trademark and speech, with Mark McKenna.","date_published":"2016-01-31T16:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/75dbefc9-8d06-4ff7-9de1-1a6d4d2aa230.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40926879,"duration_in_seconds":4965}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:56a185294bf1182dd44db2d7","title":"Episode 86: The Further Freedoming","url":"https://oralargument.org/86","content_text":"Joe shook off the plague and won a major prize all in one week. In celebration, we debate and discuss the lottery, choosing numbers, and the endowment “effect.” Into the mailbag we go and discuss our Speluncean episodes, an executioner’s privilege, robotic burritos and sandwiches, engineering happiness and social welfare functions, school funding, freedom, bro country, speed trap brief return, Canadian real estate as political barometer, the rougiest judge, knitting, and the Re-Framing.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nGregory Klass and Kathryn Zeiler, Against Endowment Theory: Experimental Economics and Legal Scholarship\nOral Argument Hymn 1 and Hymn 2\nRegina v. Dudley and Stephens (and more about the case)\nRobot or Not burritos\nChristian List, Social Choice Theory (in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)\nVox’s The Weeds podcast\nGannon v. State (and Trevor Graff and John Eligon, Court Orders Kansas Legislature to Spend More on Schools)\nSan Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez\nAbout bro country\nOral Argument 84: Felker’s Chickens (guest Steve Vladeck)\nSteve Vladeck, Vehicle Problems vs. Unusual Vehicles: The Supreme Court’s Bizarre Cert. Grant in Welch\nThe Oyez podcast feed for 2015 Supreme Court oral argument and the collection of Oyez feeds in iTunes\nJosh Blackman and Howard Wasserman, The Process of Marriage Equality\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe shook off the plague and won a major prize all in one week. In celebration, we debate and discuss the lottery, choosing numbers, and the endowment “effect.” Into the mailbag we go and discuss our Speluncean episodes, an executioner’s privilege, robotic burritos and sandwiches, engineering happiness and social welfare functions, school funding, freedom, bro country, speed trap brief return, Canadian real estate as political barometer, the rougiest judge, knitting, and the Re-Framing.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGregory Klass and Kathryn Zeiler, \u003ca href=\"http://www.uclalawreview.org/against-endowment-theory-experimental-economics-and-legal-scholarship-2/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAgainst Endowment Theory: Experimental Economics and Legal Scholarship\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOral Argument \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/81\"\u003eHymn 1\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/82\"\u003eHymn 2\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.justiceharvard.org/resources/the-queen-vs-dudley-and-stephens-1884-the-lifeboat-case/\"\u003eRegina v. Dudley and Stephens\u003c/a\u003e (and \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens\"\u003emore about the case\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.theincomparable.com/robot/41/index.php\"\u003eRobot or Not burritos\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian List, \u003ca href=\"http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/social-choice/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSocial Choice Theory\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/the-weeds\"\u003eVox’s \u003cem\u003eThe Weeds\u003c/em\u003e podcast\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1976767590316149703\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGannon v. State\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and Trevor Graff and John Eligon, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/08/us/kansas-school-spending-ruling.html?_r=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCourt Orders Kansas Legislature to Spend More on Schools\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13531894237346705488\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSan Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bro-country\"\u003eAbout bro country\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/84\"\u003eOral Argument 84: Felker’s Chickens\u003c/a\u003e (guest Steve Vladeck)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2016/01/vehicle-problems-vs-unusual-vehicles-the-supreme-courts-bizarre-cert-grant-in-welch.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVehicle Problems vs. Unusual Vehicles: The Supreme Court’s Bizarre Cert. Grant in\u003c/em\u003e Welch\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://api.oyez.org/podcasts/oral-arguments/2015\"\u003eThe Oyez podcast feed for 2015 Supreme Court oral argument\u003c/a\u003e and the \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/oyez/id1035429757\"\u003ecollection of Oyez feeds in iTunes\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Blackman and Howard Wasserman, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2641943\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Process of Marriage Equality\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Mailbag time!","date_published":"2016-01-21T21:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/7eb8077d-507d-4420-80bb-bfc0c61b9d9e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":39283936,"duration_in_seconds":3808}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:56867f7269a91ac1e4b9cb55","title":"Episode 85: Missouri Duel: Our Second Annual Call-Out Show","url":"https://oralargument.org/85","content_text":"It’s our second annual call-out show, and it’s a double-sized episode meant to last two weeks. We’re joined by listeners and previous guests who share with us the bits of culture — books, movies, and television — that have affected them and their experience of law and policy. Many things come up, but here’s the rundown: \n\n\nListener Cameron, 0:00, Les Misérables\nListener Michael, 26:11, JFK, the film \nListener Bunny, 44:28, Star Trek: The Next Generation, The Measure of a Man\nListener and co-host Sonja West, 1:11:26, The Feminine Mystique\nListener and co-host Dave Fagundes, 1:41:25, A Wilderness of Error\nMom, 2:10:14, Honor Council, The Insider, Serial\n\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOral Argument 44: Serial (A Double-Sized Episode with Many Special Guests)\nAbout Les Misérables (and a list of its various incarnations on film and stage)\nAbout the “Ban the Box” movement\nHicks v. District of Columbia (in which Justice Douglas cites Les Mis in dissent); Harmelin v. Michigan (approving Michigan’s “three strikes” law); and the dissent from the denial of cert in Riggs v. California (in which the defendant’s third strike under California’s law was for stealing a bottle of vitamins); People v. Taylor (a state court appellate case in which the dissent begins: “In a scenario somewhat reminiscent of a late 20th Century, real life Les Miserables, a hungry, homeless man is sent away for 25 years to life for trying to break into a church so he could eat some food he thought the church would be glad for him to have.”)\nJFK, the 1991 film\nAbout the assassination of JFK\nPhilosophy Bites: Quasi Cassam on Conspiracy Theories\nHold Up!\nAbout the legislative impact of JFK\nAbout Making a Murderer\nOral Argument 37: Hammer Blow (guest Michael Dorf)\nThe Measure of a Man, an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation; Picard’s argument for Data’s sentience (youtube)\nAbout positronic brains\nRichard Fisher, Is It OK to Torture or Murder a Robot\nOral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo)\nAbout the technological singularity\nHer\nRay Kurzweil, The Age of Spiritual Machines\nBetty Friedan, The Feminine Mystique\nRostker v. Goldberg (upholding the male-only military draft)\nJerome Wakefield, The Concept of Mental Disorder\nThe oral argument in Lawrence v. Texas\nAmy Argetsinger, Robert Spitzer, Psychiatrist of Transformative Influence, Dies at 83\nOral Argument 55: Cronut Lines (guest Dave Fagundes), discussing Waiting in Line: Norms, Markets, and the Law\nLauren Davidson, Google’s New “Popular Times” Feature Could Kill the Queue\nErrol Morris, A Wilderness of Error (and more about Errol Morris)\nAbout Jeffrey MacDonald\nAbout the controversies over Fatal Vision\nThe Thin Blue Line\nSerial, season one\nJanet Malcolm, The Journalist and the Murderer\nDaniel Medwed, The Innocent Prisoner’s Dilemma: Consequences of Failing to Admit Guilt at Parole Hearings (see also Rob Harris, The “Innocent Prisoner’s Dilemma”, an excellent NY Times video)\nOral Argument 48: Legal Truth (guest Lisa Kern Griffin)\nThe Insider\nSpecial Guests: Dave Fagundes and Sonja West.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIt’s our second annual call-out show, and it’s a double-sized episode meant to last two weeks. We’re joined by listeners and previous guests who share with us the bits of culture — books, movies, and television — that have affected them and their experience of law and policy. Many things come up, but here’s the rundown: \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eListener Cameron, 0:00, Les Misérables\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eListener Michael, 26:11, JFK, the film \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eListener Bunny, 44:28, Star Trek: The Next Generation, The Measure of a Man\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eListener and co-host Sonja West, 1:11:26, The Feminine Mystique\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eListener and co-host Dave Fagundes, 1:41:25, A Wilderness of Error\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMom, 2:10:14, Honor Council, The Insider, Serial\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/44\"\u003eOral Argument 44: Serial (A Double-Sized Episode with Many Special Guests)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Misérables\"\u003eAbout \u003cem\u003eLes Misérables\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and a \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Misérables_(disambiguation)\"\u003elist of its various incarnations\u003c/a\u003e on film and stage)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_the_Box\"\u003eAbout the “Ban the Box” movement\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4818967086144829911\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHicks v. District of Columbia\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (in which Justice Douglas cites Les Mis in dissent); \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12618142537190502279\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHarmelin v. Michigan\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (approving Michigan’s “three strikes” law); and the \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/98-5021.ZA.html\"\u003edissent from the denial of cert in \u003cem\u003eRiggs v. California\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (in which the defendant’s third strike under California’s law was for stealing a bottle of vitamins); \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=717227092187002172\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePeople v. Taylor\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a state court appellate case in which the dissent begins: “In a scenario somewhat reminiscent of a late 20th Century, real life Les Miserables, a hungry, homeless man is sent away for 25 years to life for trying to break into a church so he could eat some food he thought the church would be glad for him to have.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_(film)\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJFK\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the 1991 film\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy\"\u003eAbout the assassination of JFK\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://philosophybites.com/2015/05/quassim-cassam-on-conspiracy-theories.html\"\u003ePhilosophy Bites: Quasi Cassam on Conspiracy Theories\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2015/7/24/hold-up\"\u003eHold Up!\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_(film)#Legislative_impact\"\u003eAbout the legislative impact of \u003cem\u003eJFK\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Making_a_Murderer\"\u003eAbout \u003cem\u003eMaking a Murderer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/37\"\u003eOral Argument 37: Hammer Blow (guest Michael Dorf)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Measure_of_a_Man_%28Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation%29\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Measure of a Man\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, an episode of \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eStar Trek: The Next Generation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjuQRCG_sUw\"\u003ePicard’s argument for Data’s sentience\u003c/a\u003e (youtube)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positronic_brain\"\u003eAbout positronic brains\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Fisher, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20131127-would-you-murder-a-robot\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs It OK to Torture or Murder a Robot\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/41\"\u003eOral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity\"\u003eAbout the technological singularity\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_%28film%29\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRay Kurzweil, \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Spiritual_Machines\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Age of Spiritual Machines\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBetty Friedan, \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feminine_Mystique\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Feminine Mystique\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11850647464775402615\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRostker v. Goldberg\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (upholding the male-only military draft)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJerome Wakefield, \u003ca href=\"http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic625827.files/Wakefield%20-%20harmful%20dysfunction.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Concept of Mental Disorder\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.oyez.org/cases/2002/02-102\"\u003eThe oral argument in \u003cem\u003eLawrence v. Texas\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmy Argetsinger, \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/robert-spitzer-psychiatrist-of-transformative-influence-dies-at-83/2015/12/26/b6851764-ac46-11e5-bff5-905b92f5f94b_story.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRobert Spitzer, Psychiatrist of Transformative Influence, Dies at 83\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/55\"\u003eOral Argument 55: Cronut Lines (guest Dave Fagundes)\u003c/a\u003e, discussing \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2568322\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWaiting in Line: Norms, Markets, and the Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLauren Davidson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/11769815/Googles-new-popular-times-feature-could-kill-the-queue.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGoogle’s New “Popular Times” Feature Could Kill the Queue\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eErrol Morris, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wildernessoferror.com\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Wilderness of Error\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Errol_Morris\"\u003emore about Errol Morris\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_R._MacDonald\"\u003eAbout Jeffrey MacDonald\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_Vision_controversy\"\u003eAbout the controversies over \u003cem\u003eFatal Vision\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thin_Blue_Line_(1988_film)\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Thin Blue Line\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://serialpodcast.org/season-one\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSerial\u003c/em\u003e, season one\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJanet Malcolm, \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Journalist_and_the_Murderer\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Journalist and the Murderer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Medwed, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=960125\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Innocent Prisoner’s Dilemma: Consequences of Failing to Admit Guilt at Parole Hearings\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see also Rob Harris, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/video/nyregion/1247467961918/the-innocent-prisoner-s-dilemma.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe “Innocent Prisoner’s Dilemma”\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, an excellent NY Times video)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/48\"\u003eOral Argument 48: Legal Truth (guest Lisa Kern Griffin)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Insider_(film)\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Insider\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guests: Dave Fagundes and Sonja West.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Second annual call-out show with listeners.","date_published":"2016-01-01T12:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/a5ef59cf-50bc-466c-bd89-8ba883bcbf2a.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":66089337,"duration_in_seconds":8110}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:567c6d05c647adf832e95547","title":"Episode 84: Felker’s Chickens","url":"https://oralargument.org/84","content_text":"It’s a Christmas miracle! Steve Vladeck joins us again! He helps us understand how the Contract with America and a thicket of federal law have resulted in people remaining in prison even though their sentences are based on laws that have been found unconstitutional. Happy Holidays!\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSteve Vladeck’s faculty profile and writing\nSteve Vladeck, How an Obscure SCOTUS Procedure Can Solve AEDPA's Retroactivity Catch-22 (and a Growing Circuit Split)\nTeague v. Lane\nAbout the AEDPA\nBrown v. Allen (Justice Jackson in concurrence: “There is no doubt that if there were a super-Supreme Court, a substantial proportion of our reversals of state courts would also be reversed. We are not final because we are infallible, but we are infallible only because we are final.”)\nIt was 100,000 cops on the beat, not 1 million. We regret the error. (1 million? Really?)\nAbout the Contract with America\nTyler v. Cain\nFelker v. Turpin\nJohnson v. United States\nSteve Vladeck, The Johnson Retroactivity Circuit Split Plot Thickens…\nSteve Vladeck, Is the Solicitor General Playing a Shell Game With the Supreme Court Over Johnson Retroactivity?\nSteve’s (and others’) amicus brief in In re Butler on behalf of law professors\nSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIt’s a Christmas miracle! Steve Vladeck joins us again! He helps us understand how the Contract with America and a thicket of federal law have resulted in people remaining in prison even though their sentences are based on laws that have been found unconstitutional. Happy Holidays!\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.wcl.american.edu/faculty/vladeck/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=362455\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2015/11/how-an-obscure-scotus-procedure-can-solve-aedpas-retroactivity-catch-22-and-a-growing-circuit-split.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow an Obscure SCOTUS Procedure Can Solve AEDPA's Retroactivity Catch-22 (and a Growing Circuit Split)\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9178485170219770923\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTeague v. Lane\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiterrorism_and_Effective_Death_Penalty_Act_of_1996\"\u003eAbout the AEDPA\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14740856778685035617\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBrown v. Allen\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Justice Jackson in concurrence: “There is no doubt that if there were a super-Supreme Court, a substantial proportion of our reversals of state courts would also be reversed. We are not final because we are infallible, but we are infallible only because we are final.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eIt was 100,000 cops on the beat, not 1 million. We regret the error. (1 million? Really?)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_with_America\"\u003eAbout the Contract with America\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16952563944733110403\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTyler v. Cain\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11980829158634315619\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFelker v. Turpin\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/13-7120_p86b.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJohnson v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2015/12/the-johnson-retroactivity-circuit-split-plot-thickens.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Johnson Retroactivity Circuit Split Plot Thickens…\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2015/12/is-the-solicitor-general-playing-a-shell-game-with-the-supreme-court-over-johnson-retroactivity.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs the Solicitor General Playing a Shell Game With the Supreme Court Over Johnson Retroactivity?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://perma.cc/HXV8-VYS3\"\u003eSteve’s (and others’) amicus brief in In re \u003cem\u003eButler\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e on behalf of law professors\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"With Steve Vladeck, a holiday-themed episode about unconstitutional imprisonment.","date_published":"2015-12-25T12:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/52637b95-8b58-4ef6-9691-19fa3722774e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":43616734,"duration_in_seconds":5301}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:56745ee7b204d55fb335f6ca","title":"Episode 83: Embodied Joe","url":"https://oralargument.org/83","content_text":"We’re back with a casual show that starts with Star Wars and criticisms of George Lucas. Then we move to the loneliness of authorship, models of law, movies that make us cry, and an appeal to the listeners to join us live on a future episode.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nIn Tribute to Marcia Lucas from The Secret History of Star Wars\nOriginal Trilogy (a fan website containing, among other things, information about fan edits)\nJonathan Soble, Japan’s Top Court Upholds Law Requiring Spouses to Share Surname\nMy Cousin Vinny\nSerial\nMiracle on 34th Street (1994)\nA.I.\nBattlestar Galactica\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe’re back with a casual show that starts with Star Wars and criticisms of George Lucas. Then we move to the loneliness of authorship, models of law, movies that make us cry, and an appeal to the listeners to join us live on a future episode.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://web.archive.org/web/20140427194241/http:/secrethistoryofstarwars.com/marcialucas.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIn Tribute to Marcia Lucas\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e from \u003cem\u003eThe Secret History of Star Wars\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://originaltrilogy.com\"\u003eOriginal Trilogy\u003c/a\u003e (a fan website containing, among other things, information about fan edits)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJonathan Soble, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/17/world/asia/japan-court-ruling-women-surnames.html?_r=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJapan’s Top Court Upholds Law Requiring Spouses to Share Surname\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Cousin_Vinny\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMy Cousin Vinny\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://serialpodcast.org\"\u003eSerial\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_on_34th_Street_(1994_film)\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMiracle on 34th Street\u003c/em\u003e (1994)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.I._Artificial_Intelligence\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA.I.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica_(2004_TV_series)\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBattlestar Galactica\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The one about loneliness, Star Wars, modeling, and law.","date_published":"2015-12-18T14:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/c6b34427-5d99-44f6-8513-1aedff2b2126.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":33908107,"duration_in_seconds":4088}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:564cd4a7e4b0e11904b5a13b","title":"Episode 82: Hymn, Part 2: Our Strategy Is a Complete Failure","url":"https://oralargument.org/82","content_text":"The second part of our conversation about the nature of law. Is it murder if, after your group of trapped spelunkers decides, unanimously, to draw lots and eat the loser, it does so?\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOral Argument 81: Hymn, Part 1\nLon Fuller, The Case of the Speluncean Explorers ; see also the Wikipedia summary\nOliver Wendell Holmes, The Path of the Law\nRonald Dworkin, Law’s Empire\nScott Shapiro, Legality; see also Scott Shapiro, The \"Hart-Dworkin\" Debate: A Short Guide for the Perplexed\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThe second part of our conversation about the nature of law. Is it murder if, after your group of trapped spelunkers decides, unanimously, to draw lots and eat the loser, it does so?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/81\"\u003eOral Argument 81: Hymn, Part 1\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLon Fuller, \u003ca href=\"http://people.brandeis.edu/~teuber/lawspelunk.html#fuller\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Case of the Speluncean Explorers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e ; see also \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_of_the_Speluncean_Explorers\"\u003ethe Wikipedia summary\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOliver Wendell Holmes, \u003ca href=\"http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2373/2373-h/2373-h.htm\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Path of the Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRonald Dworkin, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Laws-Empire-Ronald-Dworkin/dp/0674518365\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaw’s Empire\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott Shapiro, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Legality-Scott-J-Shapiro/dp/0674725786\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegality\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also Scott Shapiro, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=968657\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe \"Hart-Dworkin\" Debate: A Short Guide for the Perplexed\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Part 2 of our conversation about the nature of law.","date_published":"2015-11-21T10:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/9388c1c7-abcb-4bfd-97cc-461cf43de412.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":30912603,"duration_in_seconds":2971}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5648e34be4b0aa82753a5aa6","title":"Episode 81: Hymn, Part 1","url":"https://oralargument.org/81","content_text":"First: oil can, a hymn, and feedback, including a discussion of the web and so-called social obligations. Is a hot dog a sandwich, and is it murder if your group of trapped spelunkers decides, unanimously, to draw lots and eat the loser? We end this part of the conversation (part two next episode and part three at a later date) there, just by asking the second question.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nVienna Teng, The Hymn of Acxiom (“Leave your life open. You don’t have to hide. . . . Let our formulas find your soul.”)\nAbout Acxiom\nPeter Bright,  Bob Ross Coming Back to Twitch with Weekly Broadcasts and Annual Marathons\nShia LaBeouf’s #ALLMYMOVIES\nHold Up!\nOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\nSindell v. Abbott Laboratories  (DES litigation imposing liability based on market share without regard to individual proof of causation)\nWilliam Baude pronouncing his name in what is also a fascinating talk on originalism\nOral Argument 80: We’ll Do It LIVE!\nAbout the Lynx browser\nJudge John Hodgman’s settled law and print\nOral Argument 70: No Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale)\nOliver Wendell Holmes, The Path of the Law\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eFirst: oil can, a hymn, and feedback, including a discussion of the web and so-called social obligations. Is a hot dog a sandwich, and is it murder if your group of trapped spelunkers decides, unanimously, to draw lots and eat the loser? We end this part of the conversation (part two next episode and part three at a later date) there, just by asking the second question.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eVienna Teng, \u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/vienna-teng/05-the-hymn-of-acxiom\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Hymn of Acxiom\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (“Leave your life open. You don’t have to hide. . . . Let our formulas find your soul.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acxiom\"\u003eAbout Acxiom\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePeter Bright,  \u003ca href=\"http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2015/11/bob-ross-coming-back-to-twitch-with-weekly-broadcasts-and-annual-marathons/#all\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBob Ross Coming Back to Twitch with Weekly Broadcasts and Annual Marathons\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eShia LaBeouf’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.newhive.com/allmymovies\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e#ALLMYMOVIES\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2015/7/24/hold-up\"\u003eHold Up!\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/45\"\u003eOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3206462791271114084\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSindell v. Abbott Laboratories\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e  (DES litigation imposing liability based on market share without regard to individual proof of causation)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/uchicagolaw/william-baude-is-originalism-our-law#t=0:26\"\u003eWilliam Baude pronouncing his name\u003c/a\u003e in what is also a fascinating talk on originalism\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/80\"\u003eOral Argument 80: We’ll Do It LIVE!\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_%28web_browser%29\"\u003eAbout the Lynx browser\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJudge John Hodgman’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.johnhodgman.com/post/131161007023/judge-john-hodgman-settled-law\"\u003esettled law\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD\u0026amp;Store_Code=TO\u0026amp;Product_Code=HODG-SETTLED-POSTER\u0026amp;Category_Code=MAXF\"\u003eprint\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/70\"\u003eOral Argument 70: No Drones in the Park\u003c/a\u003e (guest Frank Pasquale)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOliver Wendell Holmes, \u003ca href=\"http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2373/2373-h/2373-h.htm\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Path of the Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On whether a hot dog is a sandwich and what law is.","date_published":"2015-11-15T15:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/5d217924-151f-4b6e-83ab-fbc41a7fbdf0.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":38167103,"duration_in_seconds":4620}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:562c219fe4b06d19a884c3d3","title":"Episode 80: We'll Do It LIVE!","url":"https://oralargument.org/80","content_text":"We talk about the war between ad networks, data brokers, publishers, and consumers in front of a live studio audience. At the invitation of Paul Arne and the Tech Law section of the Georgia State Bar, we recorded this episode at the annual Tech Law Institute. But, of course, Big Data didn’t need this description to know that.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nThe Thrill of Victory and the Agony of Defeat\nThe Bush-Kerry (not Bush-Gore as Christian had remembered) debate moment that seemed similar to Joe’s “Want some ranch?” utterance\nThe Technology Law Section of the State Bar of Georgia\nWe’ll do it live! (video, nsfw on account of language, anger, and Bill O’Reilly)\nThe Oyez podcast feed for 2015 Supreme Court oral argument and the collection of Oyez feeds in iTunes\nThe Narrowest Grounds blog, Why it Doesn't Matter if the Court's Opinions Are Originalist - A Comment on Baude on Originalism\nAn interview with Justice Breyer in French\nKatie Benner and Sydney Ember, Enabling of Ad Blocking in Apple’s iOS 9 Prompts Backlash\nSome now older pieces by Alexis Madrigal still hold up: Reading the Privacy Policies You Encounter in a Year Would Take 76 Work Days and I'm Being Followed: How Google—and 104 Other Companies—Are Tracking Me on the Web\nFTC, Protecting Consumer Privacy in an Era of Rapid Change: Recommendations For Businesses and Policymakers\nDouglas MacMilland and Elizabeth Dworkin, Drawbridge Hires Apple Ad Executive to Track Users Across Devices\nMatthew Panzarino, Apple’s Tim Cook Delivers Blistering Speech On Encryption, Privacy\nMatthew Panzarino, Apple Blows Up the Concept of a Privacy Policy\nBen Thompson, Why Web Pages Suck\nBen Thompson, Popping the Publishing Bubble\nMarco Arment: Introducing Peace, My Privacy-Focused iOS 9 Ad Blocker, Why Peace 1.0 Blocks The Deck Ads, Just Doesn’t Feel Good, Apple Refunding All Purchases of Peace\nJack Balkin, Information Fiduciaries in the Digital Age (blog post) and Information Fiduciaries and the First Amendment (article)\nThe proposed and not passed Do-Not-Track Online Act of 2013\nSorrell v. IMS Health Inc.\nChristan Turner, The Failures of Freedom and The Information Law Crisis\nJane Bambauer, Is Data Speech?\nWoodrow Hartzog, Website Design as Contract\nKidCo \n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk about the war between ad networks, data brokers, publishers, and consumers in front of a live studio audience. At the invitation of Paul Arne and the Tech Law section of the Georgia State Bar, we recorded this episode at the annual Tech Law Institute. But, of course, Big Data didn’t need this description to know that.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi69utdvDcA\"\u003eThe Thrill of Victory and the Agony of Defeat\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXtah1oJ7Io\"\u003eBush-Kerry (not Bush-Gore as Christian had remembered) debate moment\u003c/a\u003e that seemed similar to Joe’s “Want some ranch?” utterance\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://technology.mygabar.org\"\u003eThe Technology Law Section of the State Bar of Georgia\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUFY8Zw0Bag\"\u003eWe’ll do it live!\u003c/a\u003e (video, nsfw on account of language, anger, and Bill O’Reilly)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://api.oyez.org/podcasts/oral-arguments/2015\"\u003eThe Oyez podcast feed for 2015 Supreme Court oral argument\u003c/a\u003e and the \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/oyez/id1035429757\"\u003ecollection of Oyez feeds in iTunes\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe Narrowest Grounds blog, \u003ca href=\"http://narrowestgrounds.blogspot.com/2015/10/why-it-doesnt-matter-if-courts-opinions.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy it Doesn't Matter if the Court's Opinions Are Originalist - A Comment on Baude on Originalism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.franceinter.fr/emission-le-79-stephen-breyer-moins-dargent-dans-la-campagne-presidentielle-serait-une-bonne-chose\"\u003eAn interview with Justice Breyer in French\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKatie Benner and Sydney Ember, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/technology/apple-ios-9s-enabling-of-ad-blocking-prompts-backlash.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEnabling of Ad Blocking in Apple’s iOS 9 Prompts Backlash\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSome now older pieces by Alexis Madrigal still hold up: \u003ca href=\"http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/reading-the-privacy-policies-you-encounter-in-a-year-would-take-76-work-days/253851/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReading the Privacy Policies You Encounter in a Year Would Take 76 Work Days\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/02/im-being-followed-how-google-151-and-104-other-companies-151-are-tracking-me-on-the-web/253758/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eI'm Being Followed: How Google—and 104 Other Companies—Are Tracking Me on the Web\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFTC, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/reports/protecting-consumer-privacy-era-rapid-change-recommendations-businesses-policymakers\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eProtecting Consumer Privacy in an Era of Rapid Change: Recommendations For Businesses and Policymakers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\n\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003eDouglas MacMilland and Elizabeth Dworkin, \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/07/13/drawbridge-hires-apple-ad-executive-to-track-users-across-devices/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDrawbridge Hires Apple Ad Executive to Track Users Across Devices\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew Panzarino, \u003ca href=\"http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/02/apples-tim-cook-delivers-blistering-speech-on-encryption-privacy/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eApple’s Tim Cook Delivers Blistering Speech On Encryption, Privacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew Panzarino, \u003ca href=\"http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/29/apple-blows-up-the-concept-of-a-privacy-policy/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eApple Blows Up the Concept of a Privacy Policy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBen Thompson, \u003ca href=\"https://stratechery.com/2015/why-web-pages-suck/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Web Pages Suck\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBen Thompson, \u003ca href=\"https://stratechery.com/2015/popping-the-publishing-bubble/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePopping the Publishing Bubble\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMarco Arment: \u003ca href=\"http://www.marco.org/2015/09/16/peace-content-blocker\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIntroducing Peace, My Privacy-Focused iOS 9 Ad Blocker\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.marco.org/2015/09/17/why-peace-blocks-deck-ads\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Peace 1.0 Blocks The Deck Ads\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.marco.org/2015/09/18/just-doesnt-feel-good\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJust Doesn’t Feel Good\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.marco.org/2015/09/21/peace-refund\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eApple Refunding All Purchases of Peace\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJack Balkin, \u003ca href=\"http://balkin.blogspot.com/2014/03/information-fiduciaries-in-digital-age.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInformation Fiduciaries in the Digital Age\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (blog post) and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2675270\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInformation Fiduciaries and the First Amendment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (article)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe proposed and not passed \u003ca href=\"https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s418/text\"\u003eDo-Not-Track Online Act of 2013\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=838098438403992670\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSorrell v. IMS Health Inc.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristan Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2012/2/4/the-failures-of-freedom.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Failures of Freedom\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/1/6/the-information-law-crisis\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Information Law Crisis\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJane Bambauer, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2231821\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs Data Speech?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWoodrow Hartzog, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1808108\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWebsite Design as Contract\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidco\"\u003eKidCo\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Live show on data privacy.","date_published":"2015-10-24T21:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/a1875ae0-9efc-4211-8d09-3ceb5c37298b.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":39487185,"duration_in_seconds":3828}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:562405d0e4b0b08caced95d5","title":"Episode 79: He Said It Peabody Well","url":"https://oralargument.org/79","content_text":"When we do a Supreme Court term preview, we of course turn to Slate’s amazing Dahlia Lithwick, and then we proceed not to discuss the upcoming term. We begin with a whirlwind fourteen minutes of feedback on, among other things, an index for the show, the Cyberloquium, the potential for classes in our goofy style, the North Dakotan listening trend, listening while cooking, the possibility of a Dworkin episode, surname vs. last name, the use of “antepenultimate,” the dearth of recent speed trap law discussion, and a tease further discussion of law and morals. With Dahlia, we then talk about the Supreme Court’s new rule on standing in line for oral arguments, what it means when the Court does things that are not manifest in written opinions, the idea of Supreme Court previews, and looking ahead.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDahlia Lithwick’s page, featuring her recent writing and podcasting, at Slate\nAmicus with Dahlia Lithwick\nOral Argument and the Oral Argument Index\nThe brand new Narrowest Grounds blog\nThe Supreme Court’s new rule against “line standers” for members of the Supreme Court bar; Oral Argument 55: Cronut Lines (guest Dave Fagundes)\nJoan Biskupic, Janet Roberts and John Shiffman, At America’s Court of Last Resort, a Handful of Lawyers Now Dominates the Docket\nThe Court’s new repository of PDFs of its web citations and a page featuring samples of the way it will highlight post-hand-down revisions of its opinions\nJustice Breyer on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert\nA Conversation with Elena Kagan \nOyez, which hosts audio and (interactive) transcripts of decision announcements as well as oral arguments\nOyez’s audio for Glossip v. Gross\nOral Argument 22: Nine Brains in a Vat (guest Dahlia Lithwick), talking about hand-down days\nLani Guinier, Supreme Cout 2007 Term Foreword: Demosprudence Through Dissent\nJill Duffy and Elizabeth Lambert, Dissents from the Bench: A Compilation of Oral Dissents by U.S. Supreme Court Justices (containing a list of all dissents from the bench since 1969 and updated through summer 2014)\nWilliam Blake and Hans Hacker, 'The Brooding Spirit of the Law': Supreme Court Justices Reading Dissents from the Bench\nSupreme Court Opinion Announcements: An Underutilized Resource (noting Justice Stevens’ oral dissent in Citizens United replaced a comparison between “Tokyo Rose” and “Allied commanders” to one between “Tokyo Rose” and “General MacArthur”)\nDahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern, The Supreme Court’s Most Important Cases of the New Term\nSCOTUSblog page for Evenwel v. Abbott, the new one-person, one-vote case\nSpecial Guest: Dahlia Lithwick.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhen we do a Supreme Court term preview, we of course turn to Slate’s amazing Dahlia Lithwick, and then we proceed not to discuss the upcoming term. We begin with a whirlwind fourteen minutes of feedback on, among other things, an index for the show, the Cyberloquium, the potential for classes in our goofy style, the North Dakotan listening trend, listening while cooking, the possibility of a Dworkin episode, surname vs. last name, the use of “antepenultimate,” the dearth of recent speed trap law discussion, and a tease further discussion of law and morals. With Dahlia, we then talk about the Supreme Court’s new rule on standing in line for oral arguments, what it means when the Court does things that are not manifest in written opinions, the idea of Supreme Court previews, and looking ahead.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/authors.dahlia_lithwick.html\"\u003eDahlia Lithwick’s page\u003c/a\u003e, featuring her recent writing and podcasting, at \u003ca href=\"http://slate.com\"\u003eSlate\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/amicus.html\"\u003eAmicus with Dahlia Lithwick\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org\"\u003eOral Argument\u003c/a\u003e and the \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/oralargumentindex/\"\u003eOral Argument Index\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe brand new \u003ca href=\"http://narrowestgrounds.blogspot.com\"\u003eNarrowest Grounds blog\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe Supreme Court’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/visiting/visitorsguidetooralargument.aspx#attny\"\u003enew rule against “line standers”\u003c/a\u003e for members of the Supreme Court bar; \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/55\"\u003eOral Argument 55: Cronut Lines\u003c/a\u003e (guest Dave Fagundes)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoan Biskupic, Janet Roberts and John Shiffman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/scotus/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAt America’s Court of Last Resort, a Handful of Lawyers Now Dominates the Docket\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe Court’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/Cited_URL_List.aspx\"\u003enew repository of PDFs of its web citations\u003c/a\u003e and a page featuring \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/sampleopinions.aspx\"\u003esamples of the way it will highlight post-hand-down revisions of its opinions\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj2yh6QJJJk\"\u003eJustice Breyer on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uchicago.edu/audio/conversation-elena-kagan\"\u003eA Conversation with Elena Kagan\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oyez.org\"\u003eOyez\u003c/a\u003e, which hosts audio and (interactive) transcripts of decision announcements as well as oral arguments\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.oyez.org/cases/2014/14-7955\"\u003eOyez’s audio for \u003cem\u003eGlossip v. Gross\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/22\"\u003eOral Argument 22: Nine Brains in a Vat\u003c/a\u003e (guest Dahlia Lithwick), talking about hand-down days\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLani Guinier, \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/guinier/publications/foreword.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSupreme Cout 2007 Term Foreword: Demosprudence Through Dissent\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJill Duffy and Elizabeth Lambert, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1418218\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDissents from the Bench: A Compilation of Oral Dissents by U.S. Supreme Court Justices\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (containing a list of all dissents from the bench since 1969 and updated through summer 2014)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Blake and Hans Hacker, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1328496\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e'The Brooding Spirit of the Law': Supreme Court Justices Reading Dissents from the Bench\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://theusconstitution.org/text-history/3101\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSupreme Court Opinion Announcements: An Underutilized Resource\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (noting Justice Stevens’ oral dissent in \u003cem\u003eCitizens United\u003c/em\u003e replaced a comparison between “Tokyo Rose” and “Allied commanders” to one between “Tokyo Rose” and “General MacArthur”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/10/supreme_court_2015_cases_on_affirmative_action_unions_abortion_voting_rights.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Supreme Court’s Most Important Cases of the New Term\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/evenwel-v-abbott/\"\u003eSCOTUSblog page for \u003cem\u003eEvenwel v. Abbott\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the new one-person, one-vote case\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Dahlia Lithwick.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Talking Supreme Court, with Dahlia Lithwick.","date_published":"2015-10-18T17:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/18962faf-7270-4437-9f9e-6dd10a109099.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":36793279,"duration_in_seconds":4448}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:561bd334e4b08dfc7222b774","title":"Episode 78: Listener Fuller","url":"https://oralargument.org/78","content_text":"Feedback on “the Cyberloquium,” theme music, affirmative action, oral arguments, podcast apps, Scalia’s opinion announcement in Glossip, the parliamentary system and complexity, postal banking, killer robots, villains and angels in history, and whether philosophy matters much in law.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOral Argument 0: Who Is Your Hero?\nAmicus podcast: 2015 Term Preview\nSCOTUSblog’s page for Fisher v. UT Austin\nOral Argument 27: My Favorite Case\nThe Oyez page for Glossip v. Gross, containing Breyer’s announcement and Scalia’s response (linked at Part 4)\nOvercast\nOral Argument 56: Cracking and Packing (guest Lori Ringhand)\nMehrsa Baradaran, How the Other Half Banks; Nancy Folbre’s review for the NY Times; Oral Argument 9: Torches and Pitchforks\nOral Argument 75: Air Gap (guest Mary Ellen O’Connell)\nOral Argument 76: Brutality (guest Al Brophy)\nOral Argument 77: Jackasses Are People Too (guest Adam Kolber)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eFeedback on “the Cyberloquium,” theme music, affirmative action, oral arguments, podcast apps, Scalia’s opinion announcement in Glossip, the parliamentary system and complexity, postal banking, killer robots, villains and angels in history, and whether philosophy matters much in law.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/zero\"\u003eOral Argument 0: Who Is Your Hero?\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/amicus/2015/09/the_roberts_court_takes_up_affirmative_action_public_unions_and_voting_rights.html\"\u003eAmicus podcast: 2015 Term Preview\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/fisher-v-university-of-texas-at-austin-2/\"\u003eSCOTUSblog’s page for \u003cem\u003eFisher v. UT Austin\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/27\"\u003eOral Argument 27: My Favorite Case\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"https://www.oyez.org/cases/2014/14-7955\"\u003eOyez page for \u003cem\u003eGlossip v. Gross\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, containing Breyer’s announcement and Scalia’s response (linked at Part 4)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://overcast.fm\"\u003eOvercast\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/56\"\u003eOral Argument 56: Cracking and Packing\u003c/a\u003e (guest Lori Ringhand)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMehrsa Baradaran, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/How-Other-Half-Banks-Exploitation/dp/0674286065\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow the Other Half Banks\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/books/review/how-the-other-half-banks-by-mehrsa-baradaran.html?_r=0\"\u003eNancy Folbre’s review for the NY Times\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/9\"\u003eOral Argument 9: Torches and Pitchforks\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/75\"\u003eOral Argument 75: Air Gap\u003c/a\u003e (guest Mary Ellen O’Connell)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/76\"\u003eOral Argument 76: Brutality\u003c/a\u003e (guest Al Brophy)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/77\"\u003eOral Argument 77: Jackasses Are People Too\u003c/a\u003e (guest Adam Kolber)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Feedback on topics large and small.","date_published":"2015-10-12T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/5e21f4e4-e4f5-47a0-ac2a-a15da74332b9.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":34551730,"duration_in_seconds":4168}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:560fed0be4b0b4bcd8cc551c","title":"Episode 77: Jackasses Are People Too","url":"https://oralargument.org/77","content_text":"Why take the time to write show notes if whether I write them is already determined? We’re joined by Adam Kolber to talk about free will, moral responsibility, determinism, and criminal law.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAdam Kolber’s faculty profile, writing, and blog\nAdam Kolber, Standing Upright: The Moral and Legal Standing of Humans and Other Apes\nOral Argument 33: Other Minds (guest Matthew Liebman)\nAdam Kolber, Free Will as a Matter of Law (many of the other references in the show can be found here)\nOral Argument 67: Monstrous Acts (guest Josh Lee)\nSpecial Guest: Adam Kolber.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhy take the time to write show notes if whether I write them is already determined? We’re joined by Adam Kolber to talk about free will, moral responsibility, determinism, and criminal law.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdam Kolber’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.brooklaw.edu/faculty/directory/facultymember/biography.aspx?id=adam.kolber\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=95874#reg\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://kolber.typepad.com\"\u003eblog\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdam Kolber, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=675851\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eStanding Upright: The Moral and Legal Standing of Humans and Other Apes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/33\"\u003eOral Argument 33: Other Minds\u003c/a\u003e (guest Matthew Liebman)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdam Kolber, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2660457\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFree Will as a Matter of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (many of the other references in the show can be found here)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/67\"\u003eOral Argument 67: Monstrous Acts\u003c/a\u003e (guest Josh Lee)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Adam Kolber.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On determinism, with Adam Kolber.","date_published":"2015-10-03T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/1ed2f198-6428-48e0-b2ea-2c040b0eb14d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":35104704,"duration_in_seconds":4237}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5605c67fe4b0cf5d6b49c308","title":"Episode 76: Brutality","url":"https://oralargument.org/76","content_text":"We start with, among other things, some decidedly negative feedback. But then we’re joined by the endlessly fascinating Al Brophy to discuss the history of slavery, Nat Turner’s rebellion and its aftermath, Thomas Cobb and pro- and anti-slavery intellectuals and judges, whether we should revere our Constitution, and what to do with symbols and monuments to the cause of slavery.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAl Brophy’s faculty profile and writing\nJack Ewing, Volkswagen Says 11 Million Cars Worldwide Are Affected in Diesel Deception\nOral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo)\nThe 30th Annual Technology Law Institute, at which we will be recording an episode as part of the program\nMarco Arment, Just Doesn’t Feel Good, about pulling his top-ranked ad-blocking app from the App Store\nOral Argument 74: Minimum Curiosity (guest Amanda Frost)\nRick Hasen’s ELB Podcast and UCI Law Talks, a show featuring UC Irvine law professors\nRobert Cover, Justice Accused\nState v. Mann\nHarriet Beecher Stowe, Dred: A Tale of the Great Dismal Swamp\nAlfred Brophy, Thomas Ruffin: Of Moral Philosophy and Monuments\nShawn Regan, DeChristopher Case Begs Question [sic]: What If Enviros Were Allowed to Bid on Oil Leases?\nAbout Thomas R.R. Cobb\nThomas Cobb, An Inquiry into the Law of Negro Slavery in the United States of America\nAlfred Brophy, The Nat Turner Trials\nBlackhead Signpost Road (Google Maps); see also Al’s post with his own pictures and those of Henry Louis Gates Jr.\nSean Wilentz, Constitutionally, Slavery Is No National Institution; see also David Waldstreicher, How the Constitution Was Indeed Pro-Slavery\nNFIB v. Sibelius (the Obamacare I case)\nAlfred Brophy, Is the Confederate Flag Unconstitutional?\nTyler Hill, University to Retire “Racist” Portrait\nSpecial Guest: Al Brophy.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe start with, among other things, some decidedly negative feedback. But then we’re joined by the endlessly fascinating Al Brophy to discuss the history of slavery, Nat Turner’s rebellion and its aftermath, Thomas Cobb and pro- and anti-slavery intellectuals and judges, whether we should revere our Constitution, and what to do with symbols and monuments to the cause of slavery.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAl Brophy’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.unc.edu/faculty/directory/brophyalfredl/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=343640\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJack Ewing, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/23/business/international/volkswagen-diesel-car-scandal.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVolkswagen Says 11 Million Cars Worldwide Are Affected in Diesel Deception\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/41\"\u003eOral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act\u003c/a\u003e (guest Ryan Calo)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://technology.mygabar.org/30th-annual-technology-law-institute/\"\u003eThe 30th Annual Technology Law Institute\u003c/a\u003e, at which we will be recording an episode as part of the program\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMarco Arment, \u003ca href=\"http://www.marco.org/2015/09/18/just-doesnt-feel-good\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJust Doesn’t Feel Good\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, about pulling his top-ranked ad-blocking app from the App Store\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/74\"\u003eOral Argument 74: Minimum Curiosity\u003c/a\u003e (guest Amanda Frost)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRick Hasen’s \u003ca href=\"https://electionlawblog.org/?cat=116\"\u003eELB Podcast\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uci.edu/podcast/\"\u003eUCI Law Talks\u003c/a\u003e, a show featuring UC Irvine law professors\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRobert Cover, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Justice-Accused-Antislavery-Judicial-Process/dp/0300032528\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJustice Accused\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/nchist-antebellum/4492\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState v. Mann\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHarriet Beecher Stowe, \u003ca href=\"http://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/stowe1/menu.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDred: A Tale of the Great Dismal Swamp\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlfred Brophy, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1147869\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThomas Ruffin: Of Moral Philosophy and Monuments\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eShawn Regan, \u003ca href=\"http://grist.org/oil/2011-07-28-tim-dechristopher-what-environmentalists-allowed-bid-oil-leases/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDeChristopher Case Begs Question [sic]: What If Enviros Were Allowed to Bid on Oil Leases?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Reade_Rootes_Cobb\"\u003eAbout Thomas R.R. Cobb\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThomas Cobb, \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=ASZrEQZ0Pp8C\u0026amp;printsec=frontcover\u0026amp;source=gbs_ge_summary_r\u0026amp;cad=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAn Inquiry into the Law of Negro Slavery in the United States of America\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlfred Brophy, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2281519\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Nat Turner Trials\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6855224,-77.1161023,3a,75y,140.7h,76.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snif3p7Nyv24jkYxkN5jkGQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664\"\u003eBlackhead Signpost Road\u003c/a\u003e (Google Maps); see also \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2010/08/blackhead-signpost-road.html\"\u003eAl’s post with his own pictures\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/henrylouisgates/status/278924356300730369\"\u003ethose of Henry Louis Gates Jr.\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSean Wilentz, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/16/opinion/constitutionally-slavery-is-no-national-institution.html?_r=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eConstitutionally, Slavery Is No National Institution\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also David Waldstreicher, \u003ca href=\"http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/how-the-constitution-was-indeed-pro-slavery/406288/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow the Constitution Was Indeed Pro-Slavery\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11973730494168859869\u0026amp;scilh=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNFIB v. Sibelius\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the Obamacare I case)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlfred Brophy, \u003ca href=\"http://theconversation.com/is-the-confederate-flag-unconstitutional-43760\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs the Confederate Flag Unconstitutional?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTyler Hill, \u003ca href=\"http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2007/02/07/univ-to-retire-racist-portrait/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUniversity to Retire “Racist” Portrait\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Al Brophy.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On slavery and Nat Turner, with Al Brophy.","date_published":"2015-09-25T18:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/04f5a895-aac7-4b8f-a878-5dadadd5f1ab.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":51293714,"duration_in_seconds":6261}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55fc7ab8e4b0d8d207e1a745","title":"Episode 75: Air Gap","url":"https://oralargument.org/75","content_text":"We start with some feedback and thoughts on the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, criminal law, and Christian’s brush with Upstream Color greatness. Also Joe’s thank-you notes. Then we’re joined by Mary Ellen O’Connell to talk about international law, weapons, hacking, Stuxnet, war, and killer robots. Mary Ellen maintains that the law we have is perfectly capable of dealing with what seem like new challenges.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMary Ellen O’Connell’s faculty profile and writing\nDanielle Allen, Our Declaration\nThe Declaration of Independence\nUpstream Color\nDan Goodin, Meet “badBIOS,” the Mysterious Mac and PC Malware that Jumps Airgaps\nOral Argument 70: No Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale)\nMary Ellen O’Connell, 21st Century Arms Control Challenges: Drones, Cyber Weapons, Killer Robots, and WMDs\nAbout Stuxnet\nChapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations, including Article 51, which Mary Ellen references\nMary Ellen O’Connell, Banning Autonomous Killing\nSpecial Guest: Mary Ellen O'Connell.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe start with some feedback and thoughts on the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, criminal law, and Christian’s brush with Upstream Color greatness. Also Joe’s thank-you notes. Then we’re joined by Mary Ellen O’Connell to talk about international law, weapons, hacking, Stuxnet, war, and killer robots. Mary Ellen maintains that the law we have is perfectly capable of dealing with what seem like new challenges.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMary Ellen O’Connell’s \u003ca href=\"http://law.nd.edu/directory/mary-ellen-oconnell/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=375701\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDanielle Allen, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Our-Declaration-Reading-Independence-Equality-ebook/dp/B00FPT5KYW\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOur Declaration\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence#Annotated_text_of_the_engrossed_Declaration\"\u003eThe Declaration of Independence\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://erbpfilm.com/film/upstreamcolor\"\u003eUpstream Color\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDan Goodin, \u003ca href=\"http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/meet-badbios-the-mysterious-mac-and-pc-malware-that-jumps-airgaps/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMeet “badBIOS,” the Mysterious Mac and PC Malware that Jumps Airgaps\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/70\"\u003eOral Argument 70: No Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMary Ellen O’Connell, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2583992\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e21st Century Arms Control Challenges: Drones, Cyber Weapons, Killer Robots, and WMDs\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet\"\u003eAbout Stuxnet\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter7.shtml\"\u003eChapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations\u003c/a\u003e, including Article 51, which Mary Ellen references\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMary Ellen O’Connell, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2313737\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBanning Autonomous Killing\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Mary Ellen O\u0026#39;Connell.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Law, war, and killer robots, with Mary Ellen O'Connell.","date_published":"2015-09-18T17:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/3112ee70-b748-4d46-a98f-85531cd8c6b5.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":42916789,"duration_in_seconds":5214}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55f32aeee4b01e51d6e39d3a","title":"Episode 74: Minimum Curiosity","url":"https://oralargument.org/74","content_text":"Should judges surf the web to scrutinize the truth of facts in front of them? With Amanda Frost, we discuss a recent case in which Judge Posner did just that. Some basic internet research cast serious doubt on a prison doctor’s medical opinion suggesting a prisoner did not need Zantac before meals to control a serious esophageal condition. While the websites Posner visited and cited did not control the outcome, they supported his conclusion that the evidence in the district court was insufficient to throw out the prisoner’s case.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAmanda Frost’s faculty profile and writing\nRowe v. Gibson\nColeen Barger, On the Internet Nobody Knows You’re a Judge\nAlli Orr Larsen, The Trouble with Amicus Facts; see also Alli Orr Larsen, Factual Precedents, which Christian must have had rolling around in his head somewhere\nAlli Orr Larsen on the Colbert Report discussing amicus briefs and factfinding \nAmanda Frost, The Limits of Advocacy\nBrianne Gorod, The Adversarial Myth: Appellate Court Extra-Record Factfinding\nZantac’s Comparison of OTC Heartburn Treatment Options\nMitchell v. JCG Industries (dissent and concurrence in the denial of a rehearing and Posner’s defense of the court’s staff’s trying on protective gear to gauge the plausibility of the claim that it took more than fifteen minutes)\nSpecial Guest: Amanda Frost.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eShould judges surf the web to scrutinize the truth of facts in front of them? With Amanda Frost, we discuss a recent case in which Judge Posner did just that. Some basic internet research cast serious doubt on a prison doctor’s medical opinion suggesting a prisoner did not need Zantac before meals to control a serious esophageal condition. While the websites Posner visited and cited did not control the outcome, they supported his conclusion that the evidence in the district court was insufficient to throw out the prisoner’s case.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmanda Frost’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.wcl.american.edu/faculty/frost/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=392853\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11049401713786838959\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRowe v. Gibson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eColeen Barger, \u003ca href=\"http://lawrepository.ualr.edu/appellatepracticeprocess/vol4/iss2/7/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOn the Internet Nobody Knows You’re a Judge\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlli Orr Larsen, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2409071\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Trouble with Amicus Facts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also Alli Orr Larsen, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2226395\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFactual Precedents\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, which Christian must have had rolling around in his head somewhere\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ssmvma/the-colbert-report-victory-for-gay-marriage---the-rise-of-amicus-briefs---allison-orr-larsen\"\u003eAlli Orr Larsen on the Colbert Report\u003c/a\u003e discussing amicus briefs and factfinding \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmanda Frost, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1633983\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Limits of Advocacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrianne Gorod, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1805703\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Adversarial Myth: Appellate Court Extra-Record Factfinding\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.zantacotc.com/heartburn-treatments.html\"\u003eZantac’s Comparison of OTC Heartburn Treatment Options\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10774334656395397062\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMitchell v. JCG Industries\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (dissent and concurrence in the denial of a rehearing and Posner’s defense of the court’s staff’s trying on protective gear to gauge the plausibility of the claim that it took more than fifteen minutes)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Amanda Frost.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Judicial web-surfing for facts, with Amanda Frost.","date_published":"2015-09-11T15:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/fe40c786-6af5-4be3-a742-0b3704dae72d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":38462399,"duration_in_seconds":4657}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55ea07d1e4b0d0f3181dcc0d","title":"Episode 73: Looking for the Splines","url":"https://oralargument.org/73","content_text":"We open the burgeoning mailbag. And oh what a bounty! Side A: 1. Georgia’s assertion of copyright over its annotated statutes. 2. Law school application, rankings, and preparation. 3. The utility for law of having a Ph.D. 4. Substantive due process and Lochner. 5. Would law school be better without the study of the Supreme Court or constitutional law? Side B: 6. Voting rights and proportional representation. 7. Whether we’ve had a fair discussion of the death penalty. 8. What makes legal writing good or bad? 9. Other podcasts. 10. Race and the law. 11. The utilitarian case for manual override of driverless cars. 12. Facebook’s ability to create “bad” desires and preferences. Drugs and entertainment. 13. The rogue Kentucky clerk and the difference between civil disobedience and sabotage or revolution.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOral Argument on Twitter and on Facebook\nAbout Carl Malamud\nGeorgia Accuses Public Records Activist of Information “Terrorism”\nEpisode 68: Listen to My Full Point and Episode 12: Heart of Darkness\nEpisode 62: Viewer Mail\nEpisode 30: A Filled Milk Caste\nEpisode 66: You’re Never Going to Get It All Done (guest Kareem Creighton) and Kareem Creighton’s tweet to us about this question\nChris Elmendorf, Making Sense of Section 2: Of Biased Votes, Unconstitutional Elections, and Common Law Statutes\nEpisode 56: Cracking and Packing (guest Lori Ringhand)\nEpisode 67: Monstrous Acts (guest Josh Lee)\nCallins v. Collins (Scalia’s concurrence citing the brutality of a murder in a case in which the defendant was later proved innocent)\nDanielle Allen, Our Declaration; Robert Cover, Violence and the Word ; Jedediah Purdy, After Nature: A Politics for the Anthropocene\nUndisclosed: The State v. Adnan Syed, a podcast recommended to us\nEpisode 69: Contaminated Evidence (guest Brandon Garrett); see also Episode 45: Sacrifice, Episode 64: Protect and Serve (guest Seth Stoughton)\nThe Our National Conversation about Conversations about Race podcast\nEpisode 70: No Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale)\nEpisode 72: The Guinea Pig Problem (guest Michelle Meyer)\nA youtube of David Foster Wallace talking about drugs and entertainment in Infinite Jest (2m23s)\nAnthony Kreis’s tweet about civil disobedience\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe open the burgeoning mailbag. And oh what a bounty! Side A: 1. Georgia’s assertion of copyright over its annotated statutes. 2. Law school application, rankings, and preparation. 3. The utility for law of having a Ph.D. 4. Substantive due process and Lochner. 5. Would law school be better without the study of the Supreme Court or constitutional law? Side B: 6. Voting rights and proportional representation. 7. Whether we’ve had a fair discussion of the death penalty. 8. What makes legal writing good or bad? 9. Other podcasts. 10. Race and the law. 11. The utilitarian case for manual override of driverless cars. 12. Facebook’s ability to create “bad” desires and preferences. Drugs and entertainment. 13. The rogue Kentucky clerk and the difference between civil disobedience and sabotage or revolution.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOral Argument \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/oralargument\"\u003eon Twitter\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/oralargument\"\u003eon Facebook\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Malamud\"\u003eAbout Carl Malamud\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2015/07/28/georgia-accuses-public-records-activist-of-information-terrorism/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGeorgia Accuses Public Records Activist of Information “Terrorism”\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/68\"\u003eEpisode 68: Listen to My Full Point\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/12\"\u003eEpisode 12: Heart of Darkness\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/62\"\u003eEpisode 62: Viewer Mail\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/30\"\u003eEpisode 30: A Filled Milk Caste\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/66\"\u003eEpisode 66: You’re Never Going to Get It All Done (guest Kareem Creighton)\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/KareemCrayton/status/639242727813697536\"\u003eKareem Creighton’s tweet to us\u003c/a\u003e about this question\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChris Elmendorf, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1822642\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMaking Sense of Section 2: Of Biased Votes, Unconstitutional Elections, and Common Law Statutes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/56\"\u003eEpisode 56: Cracking and Packing (guest Lori Ringhand)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/67\"\u003eEpisode 67: Monstrous Acts (guest Josh Lee)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/93-7054.ZA.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCallins v. Collins\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Scalia’s concurrence citing the brutality of a murder in a case in which the defendant was later proved innocent)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDanielle Allen, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Our-Declaration-Reading-Independence-Equality-ebook/dp/B00FPT5KYW\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOur Declaration\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Robert Cover, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3687\u0026amp;context=fss_papers\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eViolence and the Word\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e ; Jedediah Purdy, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/After-Nature-A-Politics-Anthropocene/dp/0674368223\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAfter Nature: A Politics for the Anthropocene\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://undisclosed-podcast.com\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUndisclosed: The State v. Adnan Syed\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, a podcast recommended to us\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/69\"\u003eEpisode 69: Contaminated Evidence (guest Brandon Garrett)\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/45\"\u003eEpisode 45: Sacrifice\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/64\"\u003eEpisode 64: Protect and Serve (guest Seth Stoughton)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.showaboutrace.com\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOur National Conversation about Conversations about Race\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e podcast\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/70\"\u003eEpisode 70: No Drones in the Park (guest Frank Pasquale)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/72\"\u003eEpisode 72: The Guinea Pig Problem (guest Michelle Meyer)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eA youtube of David Foster Wallace \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ys3Dd70nXQ\"\u003etalking about drugs and entertainment in \u003cem\u003eInfinite Jest\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (2m23s)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/AnthonyMKreis/status/638708239815835648\"\u003eAnthony Kreis’s tweet\u003c/a\u003e about civil disobedience\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The Oral Argument mailbag runneth over.","date_published":"2015-09-04T17:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/b2cab739-ec3b-4940-a10f-72a29148389d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":44358122,"duration_in_seconds":5394}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55e0a80ce4b01fa9414f1517","title":"Episode 72: The Guinea Pig Problem","url":"https://oralargument.org/72","content_text":"With Michelle Meyer, a scholar of bioethics and law and a longtime listener of this show, we talk about human testing and Facebook. There’s a lot to talk about, but it doesn’t dissuade us from our customary, introductory nonsense, this time including a gift from listener Michelle, Star Wars, Joe’s mangling of last names, and Joe — and this actually happened — eating dog food. If you hate fun and want to get right to the colloquium part of America’s Faculty Colloquium, it starts a little after 23 minutes in. Should corporations be able to experiment on its customers and employees without their consent? Don’t they all do that, and haven’t they always? Don’t we all do that? Does it matter whether Facebook is more like a burrito stand or a utility? Mmmm… burritos.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMichelle Meyer’s web page, faculty profile, and writing\nAmerica’s Team\nThe excellent Phantom Menace poster\nVindu Goel, Facebook Tinkers with Users’ Emotions in News Feed Experiment, Stirring Outcry\nChristian Sandvig, Karrie Karahalios, and Cedric Langbort, Uncovering Algorithms: Looking Inside the Facebook News Feed\nMichelle Meyer, Everything You Need to Know about Facebook’s Controversial Emotion Experiment (Wired)\nAbout social comparison theory and emotional contagion\nAdam Kramer, Jamie Guillory, and Jeffrey Hancock, Experimental Evidence of Massive-Scale Emotional Contagion Through Social Networks\nThe Belmont Report\nThe Common Rule\nMichelle Meyer and Christopher Chabris, Please, Corporations, Experiment on Us (N.Y. Times)\nJames Grimmelmann, Illegal, Immoral, and Mood-Altering (Medium)\nMichelle Meyer et al., Misjudgements Will Drive Social Trials Underground (Nature)\nMichelle Meyer, Two Cheers for Corporate Experimentation: The A/B Illusion and the Virtues of Data-Driven Innovation\nMichele Meyer, More on the A/B Illusion: IRB Review, Debriefing, Power Asymmetries and a Challenge for Critics\nSpecial Guest: Michelle Meyer.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWith Michelle Meyer, a scholar of bioethics and law and a longtime listener of this show, we talk about human testing and Facebook. There’s a lot to talk about, but it doesn’t dissuade us from our customary, introductory nonsense, this time including a gift from listener Michelle, Star Wars, Joe’s mangling of last names, and Joe — and this actually happened — eating dog food. If you hate fun and want to get right to the colloquium part of America’s Faculty Colloquium, it starts a little after 23 minutes in. Should corporations be able to experiment on its customers and employees without their consent? Don’t they all do that, and haven’t they always? Don’t we all do that? Does it matter whether Facebook is more like a burrito stand or a utility? Mmmm… burritos.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichelle Meyer’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.michellenmeyer.com\"\u003eweb page\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bioethics.uniongraduatecollege.edu/about/faculty/30/Michelle-N.-Meyer-Ph.D.-J.D.\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1338101\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Team\"\u003eAmerica’s Team\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe excellent \u003ca href=\"http://www.empireonline.com/features/stunning-movie-teaser-posters/p25\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePhantom Menace\u003c/em\u003e poster\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eVindu Goel, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/technology/facebook-tinkers-with-users-emotions-in-news-feed-experiment-stirring-outcry.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFacebook Tinkers with Users’ Emotions in News Feed Experiment, Stirring Outcry\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Sandvig, Karrie Karahalios, and Cedric Langbort, \u003ca href=\"https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/luncheon/2014/07/sandvigkarahalios\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUncovering Algorithms: Looking Inside the Facebook News Feed\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichelle Meyer, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wired.com/2014/06/everything-you-need-to-know-about-facebooks-manipulative-experiment/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEverything You Need to Know about Facebook’s Controversial Emotion Experiment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Wired)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_comparison_theory\"\u003esocial comparison theory\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_contagion\"\u003eemotional contagion\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdam Kramer, Jamie Guillory, and Jeffrey Hancock, \u003ca href=\"http://www.pnas.org/content/111/24/8788.full\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eExperimental Evidence of Massive-Scale Emotional Contagion Through Social Networks\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/guidance/belmont.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Belmont Report\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/humansubjects/guidance/45cfr46.html\"\u003eThe Common Rule\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichelle Meyer and Christopher Chabris, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/opinion/sunday/please-corporations-experiment-on-us.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlease, Corporations, Experiment on Us\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (N.Y. Times)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Grimmelmann, \u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/@JamesGrimmelmann/illegal-unethical-and-mood-altering-8b93af772688\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIllegal, Immoral, and Mood-Altering\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Medium)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichelle Meyer et al., \u003ca href=\"http://www.nature.com/news/misjudgements-will-drive-social-trials-underground-1.15553?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMisjudgements Will Drive Social Trials Underground\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Nature)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichelle Meyer, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2605132\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTwo Cheers for Corporate Experimentation: The A/B Illusion and the Virtues of Data-Driven Innovation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichele Meyer, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2015/06/more-on-the-ab-illusion-irb-review-debriefing-power-asymmetries-a-challenge-for-critics.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMore on the A/B Illusion: IRB Review, Debriefing, Power Asymmetries and a Challenge for Critics\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Michelle Meyer.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Facebook and human experiments, with guest Michelle Meyer.","date_published":"2015-08-28T14:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/b125d794-9758-4420-9ef7-5dc5903cccf6.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":56807699,"duration_in_seconds":6950}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55d7a92be4b0b96663bc265e","title":"Episode 71: Rolex Tube Socks","url":"https://oralargument.org/71","content_text":"With IP scholar Mark McKenna, we discuss a body of law we at least all agree should exist: trademark. Why is it essential? What are design patents? (Christian didn’t really know. But he opposes them nonetheless.) How do and should they differ from trademarks? Should there be a much shorter but partly functional protection for innovators’ identities as innovators? We discuss the example of Apple, Samsung, Android, and dilution.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMark McKenna’s faculty profile and writing\nAbout the escutcheon\nAbout Joe Miller, the Alaskan politician\nThe A.V. Club’s Podmass, featuring a write-up about our show by Dan Jakes!\nMark McKenna, Trademark Year in Review\nQualitex Co. v. Jacobson Prods. Co.\nWal-Mart Stores v. Samara Brothers\nTraffix Devices v. Marketing Displays\nMark McKenna, Confusion Isn’t Everything\nApple v. Samsung (order denying attorneys’ fees but reviewing the substance of the trade dress claims)\nSears, Roebuck and Co. v. Stiffel Company\nCompco Corp. v. Day-Brite Lighting, Inc.\nIn re Webb (reversing a ruling that a prosthesis, unobservable once implanted, could not be the subject of a design patent)\nChristopher Jobson, Welcome to Dismaland: A First Look at Banksy’s New Art Exhibition Housed Inside a Dystopian Theme Park\nMark McKenna and Katherine Strandburg, Progress and Competition in Design\nSteve Jobs’ slide containing smartphones as they existed at the moment (source article)\nSpecial Guest: Mark McKenna.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWith IP scholar Mark McKenna, we discuss a body of law we at least all agree should exist: trademark. Why is it essential? What are design patents? (Christian didn’t really know. But he opposes them nonetheless.) How do and should they differ from trademarks? Should there be a much shorter but partly functional protection for innovators’ identities as innovators? We discuss the example of Apple, Samsung, Android, and dilution.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark McKenna’s \u003ca href=\"http://law.nd.edu/directory/mark-mckenna/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=347075\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escutcheon_(heraldry)\"\u003ethe escutcheon\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Miller_(Alaska_politician)\"\u003eJoe Miller\u003c/a\u003e, the Alaskan politician\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe A.V. Club’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.avclub.com/detail/pitchfork-gets-back-podcasting-jeff-tweedy-223127\"\u003ePodmass\u003c/a\u003e, featuring a write-up about our show by Dan Jakes!\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark McKenna, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2645863\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTrademark Year in Review\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17905304466595211702\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eQualitex Co. v. Jacobson Prods. Co.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11551321958641509496\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWal-Mart Stores v. Samara Brothers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12704680276957369308\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTraffix Devices v. Marketing Displays\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark McKenna, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2366967\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eConfusion Isn’t Everything\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17828500721496408378\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eApple v. Samsung\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (order denying attorneys’ fees but reviewing the substance of the trade dress claims)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4882017016049328871\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSears, Roebuck and Co. v. Stiffel Company\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3565343023157335003\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCompco Corp. v. Day-Brite Lighting, Inc.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15618067503264703683\"\u003eIn re \u003cem\u003eWebb\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (reversing a ruling that a prosthesis, unobservable once implanted, could not be the subject of a design patent)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher Jobson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2015/08/dismaland/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWelcome to Dismaland: A First Look at Banksy’s New Art Exhibition Housed Inside a Dystopian Theme Park\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark McKenna and Katherine Strandburg, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2355445\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eProgress and Competition in Design\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ismh.s3.amazonaws.com/2012-10-24-keyboards.jpeg\"\u003eSteve Jobs’ slide\u003c/a\u003e containing smartphones as they existed at the moment (\u003ca href=\"http://www.512pixels.net/blog/2012/10/keynote-nexus\"\u003esource article\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Mark McKenna.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On trademark and innovation, with Mark McKenna.","date_published":"2015-08-21T19:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/0f8820ae-da7d-4aba-89d2-53b9eec0cbf4.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37269327,"duration_in_seconds":4508}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55bd3e24e4b06da83f631e27","title":"Episode 70: No Drones in the Park","url":"https://oralargument.org/70","content_text":"Drones and robots are or soon will be watching you, driving you, delivering to you, and maybe even trying to kill you. They’re loud, nosy, deadly, useful, safe, and dangerous. There are many different kinds of them and many different kinds of us. What should we do when, say, a man shoots a camera-bearing drone out of the sky above his property? Or when a creditor remotely shuts down your car when you’re behind on your payments but, unfortunately, while you’re on the highway? For some answers and more questions, we chat with delightfully deep-thinking Frank Pasquale.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nFrank Pasquale’s faculty profile and writing\nFrank Pasquale, The Black Box Society\nOral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act (guest Ryan Calo)\nRobot or Not?, a podcast of one to two-minute episodes\nJeff John Roberts, Man Arrested for Shooting $1,800 Drone Won’t Apologize, Cites Privacy\nDJI, drone purveyor, which company’s name Christian managed to mangle, Joe-style\nMichael Froomkin and Zak Colangelo, Self-Defense Against Robots and Drones\nFrank Pasquale, Air Traffic Control for Drones\nJacque v. Sternberg Homes, Inc.\nDesnick v. ABC\nUnited States v. Causby\nHinman v. Pacific Air Transport\nSee, e.g., Field v. Google (on copyright claims against Google for search results)\nMargot Kaminsky, Drone Federalism: Civilian Drones and the Things They Carry\nThomas Frey, 55 Jobs of the Future\nTimothy Lee, Amazon Has a Plan for Thousands of Drones to Fill the Sky\nYoko Kubota, Google Reshoots Japan Views after Privacy Complaints\nThe FAA’s interpretive rules for recreational drones (line-of-sight and less than 400 feet, among other restrictions) and proposed rules for commercial drones (including weight limitations, line-of-sight, daylight-only, less than 500 feet, and more)\nFoster v. Svenson (finding no statutory privacy right to prevent artistic show of photographs taken unsuspecting through open windows via telephoto lens)\nAP, Enrique Iglesias Recovering After Fingers Sliced at Concert, video\nPatrick Hubbard, 'Sophisticated Robots': Balancing Liability, Regulation, and Innovation\n99% Invisible 170: Children of the Magenta (Automation Paradox, pt. 1); see also part 2\nTurn Your Key, Sir!\nGrégoire Chamayou, A Theory of the Drone\nFrank Pasquale, Do Corporations Enjoy a 2nd Amendment Right to Drones?\nJathan Sadowski and Frank Pasquale, The Spectrum of Control: A Social Theory of the Smart City\nJathan Sadowski and Frank Pasquale, Creditors Use New Devices to Put Squeeze on Debtors\nDale Carrico, We Are the Killer Robots; see also Dale Carrico, Natality, Tech “Disruption,” and Killer Robots\nMary Ellen O’Connell, 21st Century Arms Control Challenges: Drones, Cyber Weapons, Killer Robots, and WMDs\nSamuel Bowles and Arjun Jayadev, One Nation Under Guard; see also Samuel Bowles and Arjun Jayadev, Garrison America\nFrank Pasquale and Glyn Cashwell, Four Futures of Legal Automation\nSpecial Guest: Frank Pasquale.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eDrones and robots are or soon will be watching you, driving you, delivering to you, and maybe even trying to kill you. They’re loud, nosy, deadly, useful, safe, and dangerous. There are many different kinds of them and many different kinds of us. What should we do when, say, a man shoots a camera-bearing drone out of the sky above his property? Or when a creditor remotely shuts down your car when you’re behind on your payments but, unfortunately, while you’re on the highway? For some answers and more questions, we chat with delightfully deep-thinking Frank Pasquale.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Pasquale’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.umaryland.edu/faculty/profiles/faculty.html?facultynum=984\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=375637\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Pasquale, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/The-Black-Box-Society-Information/dp/0674368274\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Black Box Society\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/41\"\u003eOral Argument 41: Sense-Think-Act\u003c/a\u003e (guest Ryan Calo)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.theincomparable.com/robot/\"\u003eRobot or Not?\u003c/a\u003e, a podcast of one to two-minute episodes\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeff John Roberts, \u003ca href=\"http://fortune.com/2015/07/29/shoot-drone-privacy/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMan Arrested for Shooting $1,800 Drone Won’t Apologize, Cites Privacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.dji.com\"\u003eDJI\u003c/a\u003e, drone purveyor, which company’s name Christian managed to mangle, Joe-style\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Froomkin and Zak Colangelo, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2504325\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSelf-Defense Against Robots and Drones\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Pasquale, \u003ca href=\"http://concurringopinions.com/archives/2015/07/air-traffic-control-for-drones.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAir Traffic Control for Drones\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11443264787160776364\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJacque v. Sternberg Homes, Inc.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4141978477551758469\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDesnick v. ABC\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17209011020287234065\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Causby\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7441978252576883254\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHinman v. Pacific Air Transport\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSee, e.g., \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15945714264866823005\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eField v. Google\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (on copyright claims against Google for search results)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMargot Kaminsky, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2257080\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDrone Federalism: Civilian Drones and the Things They Carry\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThomas Frey, \u003ca href=\"http://www.futuristspeaker.com/2011/11/55-jobs-of-the-future/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e55 Jobs of the Future\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTimothy Lee, \u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/2015/8/3/9090829/amazon-drone-plan\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmazon Has a Plan for Thousands of Drones to Fill the Sky\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eYoko Kubota, \u003ca href=\"http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/05/13/us-google-japan-idUSTRE54C22R20090513\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGoogle Reshoots Japan Views after Privacy Complaints\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe FAA’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.faa.gov/uas/model_aircraft/\"\u003einterpretive rules for recreational drones\u003c/a\u003e (line-of-sight and less than 400 feet, among other restrictions) and \u003ca href=\"http://www.faa.gov/uas/nprm/\"\u003eproposed rules for commercial drones\u003c/a\u003e (including weight limitations, line-of-sight, daylight-only, less than 500 feet, and more)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15613535670303775981\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFoster v. Svenson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (finding no statutory privacy right to prevent artistic show of photographs taken unsuspecting through open windows via telephoto lens)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAP, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/05/31/arts/ap-us-people-enrique-iglesias.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEnrique Iglesias Recovering After Fingers Sliced at Concert\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOTOymQJMLk\"\u003evideo\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePatrick Hubbard, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2408557\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e'Sophisticated Robots': Balancing Liability, Regulation, and Innovation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/children-of-the-magenta-automation-paradox-pt-1/\"\u003e99% Invisible 170: Children of the Magenta (Automation Paradox, pt. 1)\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/johnnycab-automation-paradox-pt-2/\"\u003epart 2\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLMCjuge6oE\"\u003eTurn Your Key, Sir!\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGrégoire Chamayou, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/A-Theory-Drone-Grégoire-Chamayou/dp/1595589759\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Theory of the Drone\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Pasquale, \u003ca href=\"http://concurringopinions.com/archives/2013/03/do-corporations-enjoy-a-2nd-amendment-right-to-drones.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDo Corporations Enjoy a 2nd Amendment Right to Drones?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJathan Sadowski and Frank Pasquale, \u003ca href=\"http://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/5903/4660\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Spectrum of Control: A Social Theory of the Smart City\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJathan Sadowski and Frank Pasquale, \u003ca href=\"http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/11/debt-collection-technologystarterinterruptdevicesubprime.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCreditors Use New Devices to Put Squeeze on Debtors\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDale Carrico, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wfs.org/blogs/dale-carrico/we-are-killer-robots\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWe Are the Killer Robots\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also Dale Carrico, \u003ca href=\"http://amormundi.blogspot.com/2015/02/natality-tech-disruption-and-killer.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNatality, Tech “Disruption,” and Killer Robots\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMary Ellen O’Connell, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2583992\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e21st Century Arms Control Challenges: Drones, Cyber Weapons, Killer Robots, and WMDs\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSamuel Bowles and Arjun Jayadev, \u003ca href=\"http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/15/one-nation-under-guard/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOne Nation Under Guard\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also Samuel Bowles and Arjun Jayadev, \u003ca href=\"http://tuvalu.santafe.edu/~bowles/GarrisonAmerica2007.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGarrison America\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Pasquale and Glyn Cashwell, \u003ca href=\"http://www.uclalawreview.org/four-futures-legal-automation/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFour Futures of Legal Automation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Frank Pasquale.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Drones, with Frank Pasquale.","date_published":"2015-08-07T12:30:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/591a97c3-d8c1-4e81-9ad4-ac9786361f33.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48394952,"duration_in_seconds":4719}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55bb90fde4b055ec9ce6e4b5","title":"Episode 69: Contaminated Evidence","url":"https://oralargument.org/69","content_text":"Brandon Garrett is one of the leading scholars on the problem of getting it wrong in criminal cases. Eyewitnesses who believe they know what they do not know, suspects who confess to crimes they did not commit, and the actually guilty parties who go free when convict the innocent: why and how does this happen?\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nBrandon Garrett’s faculty profile, author page, and writing\nHold Up!, the (probably) one-off movie podcast we recorded\nOral Argument 44: Serial\nBrandon Garrett, The Banality of Wrongful Executions\nBrandon Garrett, Convicting the Innocent: Where Criminal Prosecutions Go Wrong\nBrandon Garrett, Contaminated Confessions Revisited\nAbout Elizabeth Loftus\nOral Argument 48: Legal Truth (guest Lisa Kern Griffin), discussing Lisa Kern Griffin, Narrative, Truth, and Trial; see also links and discussion from Oral Argument 45: Sacrifice\nJames Liebman et al., The Wrong Carlos, a fascinating website collecting photos, interviews, and other evidence concerning the conviction and execution of Carlos DeLuna, who was likely innocent\nThis American Life, Confessions, Act One, an interview with Jim Trainum about botched confessions\nBenjamin Weiser, Settlement Is Approved in Central Park Jogger Case, but New York Deflects Blame\nNational Research Council, Identifying the Culprit\nAlex Kozinski, Criminal Law 2.0\nAbout the Criminal Cases Review Commission\nInnocence Project at the UVA School of Law\nSpecial Guest: Brandon Garrett.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eBrandon Garrett is one of the leading scholars on the problem of getting it wrong in criminal cases. Eyewitnesses who believe they know what they do not know, suspects who confess to crimes they did not commit, and the actually guilty parties who go free when convict the innocent: why and how does this happen?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrandon Garrett’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.virginia.edu/lawweb/Faculty.nsf/FHPbI/1165630\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.brandonlgarrett.com\"\u003eauthor page\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=492985\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2015/7/24/hold-up\"\u003eHold Up!\u003c/a\u003e, the (probably) one-off movie podcast we recorded\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/44\"\u003eOral Argument 44: Serial\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrandon Garrett, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2396485\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Banality of Wrongful Executions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrandon Garrett, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Convicting-Innocent-Where-Criminal-Prosecutions/dp/0674058704\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eConvicting the Innocent: Where Criminal Prosecutions Go Wrong\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrandon Garrett, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2485536\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eContaminated Confessions Revisited\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Loftus\"\u003eAbout Elizabeth Loftus\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/48\"\u003eOral Argument 48: Legal Truth (guest Lisa Kern Griffin)\u003c/a\u003e, discussing Lisa Kern Griffin, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2190099\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNarrative, Truth, and Trial\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also links and discussion from \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/45\"\u003eOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Liebman et al., \u003ca href=\"http://thewrongcarlos.net\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Wrong Carlos\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, a fascinating website collecting photos, interviews, and other evidence concerning the conviction and execution of Carlos DeLuna, who was likely innocent\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThis American Life, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/507/confessions?act=1\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eConfessions, Act One\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, an interview with Jim Trainum about botched confessions\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBenjamin Weiser, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/06/nyregion/41-million-settlement-for-5-convicted-in-jogger-case-is-approved.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSettlement Is Approved in Central Park Jogger Case, but New York Deflects Blame\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNational Research Council, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nap.edu/catalog/18891/identifying-the-culprit-assessing-eyewitness-identification\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIdentifying the Culprit\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlex Kozinski, \u003ca href=\"http://georgetownlawjournal.org/files/2015/06/Kozinski_Preface.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCriminal Law 2.0\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Cases_Review_Commission\"\u003eAbout the Criminal Cases Review Commission\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/academics/practical/innocenceclinic.htm\"\u003eInnocence Project at the UVA School of Law\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Brandon Garrett.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On wrongful convictions, with Brandon Garrett.","date_published":"2015-07-31T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/dd4270bb-7447-4802-ab02-adcc0b25ad8e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":32776273,"duration_in_seconds":3946}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55aaa180e4b03f43f2a33cab","title":"Episode 68: Listen to My Full Point","url":"https://oralargument.org/68","content_text":"Just Christian and Joe focusing on a few topics from listener feedback. Our discussion includes: BPA-free containers, Joe’s health, John Pfaff in the news on prison reform and mass incarceration, Pluto and seagulls, listener Anthony’s good news, the Church of Marijuana, religious exemptions, racist appointments, what “tuition” means, how to choose a law school, how to prepare for law school (we disagree), what law schools should be, and feedback we decide to delay.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOral Argument 51: The Faucet (guest John Pfaff)\nGerman Lopez, Mass Incarceration in America, Explained in 28 Maps and Charts (vox.com)\nOliver Roeder, Releasing Drug Offenders Won’t End Mass Incarceration (538.com)\nOral Argument 6: Productive Thoughtlessness\nEmily Lakdawalla, First Look at New Horizons' Pluto and Charon images: “Baffling in a Very Interesting and Wonderful Way\"\nThe picture of the comet\nAbout Leviathan\nMonica Davey, A Church of Cannabis Tests Limits of Religious Law in Indiana\nOral Argument 66: You’re Never Going to Get It All Done (guest Kareem Crayton)\nOral Argument 12: Heart of Darkness (about the US News rankings)\nAlexia Brunet Marks and Scott Moss, What Makes a Law Student Succeed or Fail? A Longitudinal Study Correlating Law Student Applicant Data and Law School Outcomes\nStanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy on Free Will and on Retributive Justice\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJust Christian and Joe focusing on a few topics from listener feedback. Our discussion includes: BPA-free containers, Joe’s health, John Pfaff in the news on prison reform and mass incarceration, Pluto and seagulls, listener Anthony’s good news, the Church of Marijuana, religious exemptions, racist appointments, what “tuition” means, how to choose a law school, how to prepare for law school (we disagree), what law schools should be, and feedback we decide to delay.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/51\"\u003eOral Argument 51: The Faucet (guest John Pfaff)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGerman Lopez, \u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/2015/7/13/8913297/mass-incarceration-maps-charts\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMass Incarceration in America, Explained in 28 Maps and Charts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (vox.com)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOliver Roeder, \u003ca href=\"http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/releasing-drug-offenders-wont-end-mass-incarceration/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReleasing Drug Offenders Won’t End Mass Incarceration\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (538.com)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/6\"\u003eOral Argument 6: Productive Thoughtlessness\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEmily Lakdawalla, \u003ca href=\"http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2015/07151720-first-look-at-new-horizons-pluto-charon.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFirst Look at New Horizons' Pluto and Charon images: “Baffling in a Very Interesting and Wonderful Way\"\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/11/12/the-nature-of-things-and-the-forces-that-bind-them-comet-edition\"\u003eThe picture of the comet\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_(2012_film)\"\u003eLeviathan\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMonica Davey, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/02/us/a-church-of-cannabis-tests-limits-of-religious-law-in-indiana.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Church of Cannabis Tests Limits of Religious Law in Indiana\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/66\"\u003eOral Argument 66: You’re Never Going to Get It All Done (guest Kareem Crayton)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/12\"\u003eOral Argument 12: Heart of Darkness\u003c/a\u003e (about the US News rankings)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlexia Brunet Marks and Scott Moss, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2627330\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Makes a Law Student Succeed or Fail? A Longitudinal Study Correlating Law Student Applicant Data and Law School Outcomes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy on \u003ca href=\"http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freewill/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFree Will\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and on \u003ca href=\"http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/justice-retributive/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRetributive Justice\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Joe and Christian respond to feedback.","date_published":"2015-07-18T15:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/bca13498-cc11-4074-861e-33694100e436.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":42466436,"duration_in_seconds":5158}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55a051eee4b0dc8aaa724f29","title":"Episode 67: Monstrous Acts","url":"https://oralargument.org/67","content_text":"We’re joined by long-time listener and federal public defender Josh Lee to discuss the death penalty. We talk about Josh’s practice, death row, the latest death penalty decision’s substance and tone, and whether the death penalty will last much longer.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAbout Josh Lee\nAmicus: The Term in Review, episode 23 of Dahlia Lithwick’s excellent Supreme Court podcast\nOral Argument 66: You’re Never Going to Get It All Done\nFederal Public Defender Organization, Eastern District of Arkansas\nAbout the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996\nAke v. Oklahoma (guaranteeing a right to psychiatric exam to prepare a criminal defense); see also Ward v. State, an Arkansas Supreme Court decision noting the court’s belief that “a defendant's rights are adequately protected by an examination at the state hospital, an institution that has no part in the prosecution of criminals”\nABA Guidelines for the Appointment and Performance of Defense Counsel in Death Penalty Cases\nJosh Lee, Determinism and the Death Penalty\nWilliams v. Hobbs\nGlossip v. Gross\nJosh Lee, Dignity Kennedy, Burkean Kennedy, and Libertarian Kennedy\nJosh Lee, Judicial Abolition from Below\nBill Mears, Justice Breyer Robbed at Machete-Point During Caribbean Vacation\nDoug Berman, \"Anti-Death Penalty Activists Are Winning The Fundraising Battle In Nebraska\"\nCasetext\nChristopher McCrudden, Human Dignity and Judicial Interpretation of Human Rights; see also Christopher McCrudden, Understanding Human Dignity (the introduction of which is here)\nSpecial Guest: Josh Lee.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe’re joined by long-time listener and federal public defender Josh Lee to discuss the death penalty. We talk about Josh’s practice, death row, the latest death penalty decision’s substance and tone, and whether the death penalty will last much longer.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/pub/josh-lee/7a/97a/574\"\u003eAbout Josh Lee\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/amicus/2015/07/same_sex_marriage_obamacare_and_the_rest_of_the_2014_15_supreme_court_term.html\"\u003eAmicus: The Term in Review\u003c/a\u003e, episode 23 of Dahlia Lithwick’s excellent Supreme Court podcast\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/66\"\u003eOral Argument 66: You’re Never Going to Get It All Done\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://are.fd.org\"\u003eFederal Public Defender Organization, Eastern District of Arkansas\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiterrorism_and_Effective_Death_Penalty_Act_of_1996\"\u003eAbout the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1904002630366313299\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAke v. Oklahoma\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (guaranteeing a right to psychiatric exam to prepare a criminal defense); see also \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10093552194105616323\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWard v. State\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, an Arkansas Supreme Court decision noting the court’s belief that “a defendant's rights are adequately protected by an examination at the state hospital, an institution that has no part in the prosecution of criminals”\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/migrated/2011_build/death_penalty_representation/2003guidelines.authcheckdam.pdf\"\u003eABA Guidelines for the Appointment and Performance of Defense Counsel in Death Penalty Cases\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Lee, \u003ca href=\"https://casetext.com/posts/determinism-and-the-death-penalty\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDeterminism and the Death Penalty\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2865670420724451614\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWilliams v. Hobbs\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-7955_aplc.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGlossip v. Gross\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Lee, \u003ca href=\"https://casetext.com/posts/dignity-kennedy-burkean-kennedy-and-libertarian-kennedy\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDignity Kennedy, Burkean Kennedy, and Libertarian Kennedy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Lee, \u003ca href=\"https://casetext.com/posts/judicial-abolition-from-below\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJudicial Abolition from Below\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBill Mears, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/13/us/justice-breyer-robbed/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJustice Breyer Robbed at Machete-Point During Caribbean Vacation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDoug Berman, \u003ca href=\"http://sentencing.typepad.com/sentencing_law_and_policy/2015/07/anti-death-penalty-activists-are-winning-the-fundraising-battle-in-nebraska.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e\"Anti-Death Penalty Activists Are Winning The Fundraising Battle In Nebraska\"\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://casetext.com\"\u003eCasetext\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher McCrudden, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1162024\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHuman Dignity and Judicial Interpretation of Human Rights\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also Christopher McCrudden, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Dignity-Proceedings-British-Academy/dp/0197265820\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnderstanding Human Dignity\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the \u003ca href=\"http://fdslive.oup.com/www.oup.com/academic/pdf/13/9780197265642_prelim.pdf\"\u003eintroduction of which is here\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Josh Lee.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the death penalty, with Josh Lee.","date_published":"2015-07-10T19:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/af1c6470-80dc-4cba-98d7-538d8c4fa1d3.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":49132863,"duration_in_seconds":5991}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:559584a6e4b02af487814872","title":"Episode 66: You’re Never Going to Get It All Done","url":"https://oralargument.org/66","content_text":"We talk this week about elections and markets for votes with election-law scholar Kareem Crayton. Calling in from Hong Kong, where the design of elections looms large, Kareem chats with us about what elections are meant to do, the private and public nature of the voting booth, the practical legal immunity of decisions made for illegitimate reasons, comparisons of elections and other markets for products, racism, the Voting Rights Act, and more. Is racism more like polio or high blood pressure?\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nKareem Crayton’s writing\nGlossip v. Gross\nMichael Dorf, Evolving Standards of Decency that Mark the Progress of Maturing Justices\nOrin Kerr, Why the Late-Career Conversions at the Supreme Court on the Death Penalty?\nUnited States v. Quinones (Judge Rakoff’s district court opinion striking down the death penalty in 2002, later reversed)\nJosh Lee, Dignity Kennedy, Burkean Kennedy, and Libertarian Kennedy\nJosh Lee, Determinism and the Death Penalty\nJosh Lee, Judicial Abolition from Below\nBBC, Hong Kong’s Democracy Debate (an explainer)\nArizona State Legislature v. Arizona Independent Redistricting Comm’n\nGiles v. Harris\nRomer v. Evans\nBusbee v. Smith (a 1982 decision containing finding of fact 17, that a Georgia representative was a racist)\nShelby County v. Holder\nBrief of Political Science and Law Professors as Amici Curiae in Shelby County\nKareem Crayton, Five Justices, Section 4, and Three Ways Forward in Voting Rights\nKareem Crayton, Sword, Shield, and Compass: The Uses and Misuses of Racially Polarized Voting Studies in Voting Rights Enforcement\nKareem Crayton, Take Down the Confederate Flag\nSpecial Guest: Kareem Crayton.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk this week about elections and markets for votes with election-law scholar Kareem Crayton. Calling in from Hong Kong, where the design of elections looms large, Kareem chats with us about what elections are meant to do, the private and public nature of the voting booth, the practical legal immunity of decisions made for illegitimate reasons, comparisons of elections and other markets for products, racism, the Voting Rights Act, and more. Is racism more like polio or high blood pressure?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKareem Crayton’s \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=602663\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-7955_aplc.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGlossip v. Gross\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2015/06/evolving-standards-of-decency-that-mark.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEvolving Standards of Decency that Mark the Progress of Maturing Justices\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrin Kerr, \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/07/01/why-the-late-career-conversions-at-the-supreme-court-on-the-death-penalty/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy the Late-Career Conversions at the Supreme Court on the Death Penalty?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3898405212312344103\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Quinones\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Judge Rakoff’s district court opinion striking down the death penalty in 2002, later reversed)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Lee, \u003ca href=\"https://casetext.com/posts/dignity-kennedy-burkean-kennedy-and-libertarian-kennedy\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDignity Kennedy, Burkean Kennedy, and Libertarian Kennedy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Lee, \u003ca href=\"https://casetext.com/posts/determinism-and-the-death-penalty\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDeterminism and the Death Penalty\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Lee, \u003ca href=\"https://casetext.com/posts/judicial-abolition-from-below\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJudicial Abolition from Below\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBBC, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-27921954\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHong Kong’s Democracy Debate\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (an explainer)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/13-1314_3ea4.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eArizona State Legislature v. Arizona Independent Redistricting Comm’n\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10685137775067706337\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGiles v. Harris\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17758055891258118781\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRomer v. Evans\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2141380107029010326\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBusbee v. Smith\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a 1982 decision containing finding of fact 17, that a Georgia representative was a racist)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4053797526279899410\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShelby County v. Holder\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.naacpldf.org/files/case_issue/Shelby-Brief%20of%20Political%20Science%20and%20Law%20Professors.pdf\"\u003eBrief of Political Science and Law Professors as Amici Curiae in \u003cem\u003eShelby County\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKareem Crayton, \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/abstract=2431772\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFive Justices, Section 4, and Three Ways Forward in Voting Rights\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKareem Crayton, \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/abstract=2187319\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSword, Shield, and Compass: The Uses and Misuses of Racially Polarized Voting Studies in Voting Rights Enforcement\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKareem Crayton, \u003ca href=\"https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/06/19/take-down-confederate-flag/0YKM1wbGwO7TiRUwwR86mI/story.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTake Down the Confederate Flag\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Kareem Crayton.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Voting and elections, with Kareem Crayton.","date_published":"2015-07-03T08:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/63c08df2-8431-4465-ba72-4cdceae76376.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":43922642,"duration_in_seconds":5340}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:558dd623e4b042843bc8818c","title":"Episode 65: We Can Call It Awesome","url":"https://oralargument.org/65","content_text":"Big week. Let’s just call this one our second annual Supreme Court round-up, where, naturally, we focus on only two cases: gay marriage and Obamacare II. It’s made awesome by our special guest, Steve Vladeck.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSteve Vladeck’s faculty profile and writing\nOral Argument 22: Nine Brains in a Vat (guest Dahlia Lithwick)\nObergefell v. Hodges\nOral Argument 40: The Split Has Occurred (about Judge Sutton’s gay marriage opinion) and Oral Argument 32: Go Figure (guest Lori Ringhand) (about Judge Posner’s gay marriage opinion), both episodes containing ample links concerning the issue\nSan Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez\nOral Argument 30: A Filled Milk Caste, containing discussion and links concerning United States v. Carolene Products Co.\nBrown v. Board of Education; see also What Brown v. Board of Education Should Have Said (Jack Balkin, ed.)\nTown of Greece v. Galloway; Kimble v. Marvel Entertainment\nReed v. Reed\nBoumediene v. Bush\nLochner v. New York; Dred Scott v. Sanford\nKing v. Burwell\nCity of Arlington v. FCC, Roberts’ dissenting regarding the application of Chevron v. NRDC\nAmalgamated Transit Union Local 1309 v. Laidlaw Transit Services, one of the cases about “not less than seven days”\nAdam Zimmerman, Chevron after King v. Burwell (the comments to which feature thoughts from listener Asher)\nShelby County v. Holder\nSteward Machine Co. v. Davis\nSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eBig week. Let’s just call this one our second annual Supreme Court round-up, where, naturally, we focus on only two cases: gay marriage and Obamacare II. It’s made awesome by our special guest, Steve Vladeck.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.wcl.american.edu/faculty/vladeck/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=362455\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/22\"\u003eOral Argument 22: Nine Brains in a Vat (guest Dahlia Lithwick)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eObergefell v. Hodges\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/40\"\u003eOral Argument 40: The Split Has Occurred\u003c/a\u003e (about Judge Sutton’s gay marriage opinion) and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/32\"\u003eOral Argument 32: Go Figure (guest Lori Ringhand)\u003c/a\u003e (about Judge Posner’s gay marriage opinion), both episodes containing ample links concerning the issue\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13531894237346705488\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSan Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/30\"\u003eOral Argument 30: A Filled Milk Caste\u003c/a\u003e, containing discussion and links concerning \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1808251577400430843\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Carolene Products Co.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12120372216939101759\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBrown v. Board of Education\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"https://books.google.com/books?id=NzzXI7zaZFAC\u0026amp;hl=en\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat\u003c/em\u003e Brown v. Board of Education \u003cem\u003eShould Have Said\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Jack Balkin, ed.)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3753205298956949348\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTown of Greece v. Galloway\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/13-720_jiel.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKimble v. Marvel Entertainment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9505211932515131375\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReed v. Reed\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2483936489630436485\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBoumediene v. Bush\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10760991087928264675\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLochner v. New York\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3231372247892780026\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDred Scott v. Sanford\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-114_qol1.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKing v. Burwell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8614546201508695232\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCity of Arlington v. FCC\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, Roberts’ dissenting regarding the application of \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14437597860792759765\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChevron v. NRDC\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14661178423186329125\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmalgamated Transit Union Local 1309 v. Laidlaw Transit Services\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, one of the cases about “not less than seven days”\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdam Zimmerman, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2015/06/chevron-after-king-v-burwell.html#more\"\u003eChevron \u003cem\u003eafter\u003c/em\u003e King v. Burwell\u003c/a\u003e (the comments to which feature thoughts from listener Asher)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4053797526279899410\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShelby County v. Holder\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11777818167992631527\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSteward Machine Co. v. Davis\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Gay marriage and Obamacare II, with Steve Vladeck.","date_published":"2015-06-26T19:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/c7b28a9b-ea31-41e8-ab9b-ff2d0710ca78.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":44300045,"duration_in_seconds":5387}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55844018e4b067ca8aac88ca","title":"Episode 64: Protect and Serve","url":"https://oralargument.org/64","content_text":"We’re back. After an introductory, warm-up conversation about swearing (in which we do not swear) and travels, we talk with Seth Stoughton about policing in America. What should a police officer and a police force be? Warriors or guardians? Seth teaches us some history and shares his own experiences as a former police officer. Also how to pronounce Stoughton.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSeth Stoughton’s faculty profile and writing\nSeth Stoughton, Law Enforcement’s ‘Warrior’ Problem (read online here if you don’t want the PDF)\nSeth Stoughton, A Former Cop on What Went Wrong in McKinney\nSeth Stoughton, What a Police Expert Calls the Most Ignored Cause of Cop Violence\nKlein et al., The Good Stranger Frame for Police and Military Activities\nFinal Report of the President’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing\nAll Thing Considered, Police-Involved Shootings Highlight Problem With Law Enforcement 'Culture'\nSeth Stoughton, What Would a Better Ferguson Response Have Looked Like?\nU.S. Department of Justice, Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department\nThis American Life, Right to Remain Silent; see also Graham Rayman, The NYPD Tapes: Inside Bed-Stuy’s 81st Precinct\nJamelle Bouie, Criminal Neglect\nSpecial Guest: Seth Stoughton.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe’re back. After an introductory, warm-up conversation about swearing (in which we do not swear) and travels, we talk with Seth Stoughton about policing in America. What should a police officer and a police force be? Warriors or guardians? Seth teaches us some history and shares his own experiences as a former police officer. Also how to pronounce Stoughton.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSeth Stoughton’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.sc.edu/faculty/stoughton/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1626868\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSeth Stoughton, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2593798\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaw Enforcement’s ‘Warrior’ Problem\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (read online \u003ca href=\"http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/04/law-enforcements-warrior-problem/\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e if you don’t want the PDF)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSeth Stoughton, \u003ca href=\"http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/two-mckinney-cops-former-police-officer-guardian-warrior\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Former Cop on What Went Wrong in McKinney\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSeth Stoughton, \u003ca href=\"http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/stress-ignored-cause-of-police-violence\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat a Police Expert Calls the Most Ignored Cause of Cop Violence\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKlein et al., \u003ca href=\"http://pro.sagepub.com/content/58/1/275.short\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Good Stranger Frame for Police and Military Activities\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/default.asp?Item=2761\"\u003eFinal Report\u003c/a\u003e of the President’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAll Thing Considered, \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2015/04/10/398824607/police-involved-shootings-highlight-problem-with-law-enforcement-culture\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePolice-Involved Shootings Highlight Problem With Law Enforcement 'Culture'\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSeth Stoughton, \u003ca href=\"https://verdict.justia.com/2014/09/12/better-ferguson-response-looked-like\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Would a Better Ferguson Response Have Looked Like?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eU.S. Department of Justice, \u003ca href=\"http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInvestigation of the Ferguson Police Department\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThis American Life, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent?act=2\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRight to Remain Silent\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also Graham Rayman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-nypd-tapes-inside-bed-stuys-81st-precinct-6429434\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe NYPD Tapes: Inside Bed-Stuy’s 81st Precinct\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJamelle Bouie, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/06/baltimore_police_are_virtually_on_strike_the_city_deserves_something_better.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCriminal Neglect\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Seth Stoughton.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On policing, with Seth Stoughton.","date_published":"2015-06-19T12:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/c5cc186c-deba-47b0-8c66-e8da31e1ae0e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":42797020,"duration_in_seconds":5199}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55699e27e4b07ec484fb155f","title":"Episode 63: A Struggle with Every Single One","url":"https://oralargument.org/63","content_text":"Suppose you wanted to check out how our efforts to save endangered species are going. Our guest, Jessica Owley, tried to do that and to observe what is happening where habitat conservation plans have been put in place. Things didn’t go so well. We discuss the structure of the Endangered Species Act, snails, dams, the God Squad, “incidental take permits,” how it’s all supposed to work, and, mainly, how Jessica was stymied in her efforts to figure out how it actually is working. (Brought to you by coffee sent by listener Adam.)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJessica Owley’s faculty profile and writing\nJessica Owley, Keeping Track of Conservation\nAbout the Endangered Species Act, with links to the text of the act, other documents, and a video about the act; see also Wikipedia on the ESA\nBabbitt v. Sweet Home Chapter, Communities for Great Ore.\nTennesse Valley Authority v. Hill\nMore about the snail darter controversy\nAbout Habitat Conservation Plans (USFWS); see also Wikipedia on HCPs\nAn example Habitat Conservation Plan at Stanford University\nAbout conservation easements\nJessica Owley, Exacted Conservation Easements: Emerging Concerns with Enforcement\nThe San Bruno Mountain Habitat Conservation Plan and related documents\nLujan v. Defenders of Wildlife\nSpecial Guest: Jessica Owley.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eSuppose you wanted to check out how our efforts to save endangered species are going. Our guest, Jessica Owley, tried to do that and to observe what is happening where habitat conservation plans have been put in place. Things didn’t go so well. We discuss the structure of the Endangered Species Act, snails, dams, the God Squad, “incidental take permits,” how it’s all supposed to work, and, mainly, how Jessica was stymied in her efforts to figure out how it actually is working. (Brought to you by coffee sent by listener Adam.)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJessica Owley’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.buffalo.edu/faculty/facultyDirectory/OwleyJessica.html\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=859908\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJessica Owley, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2597355\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKeeping Track of Conservation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the \u003ca href=\"http://www.fws.gov/endangered/laws-policies/index.html\"\u003eEndangered Species Act\u003c/a\u003e, with links to the text of the act, other documents, and a video about the act; see also \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangered_Species_Act\"\u003eWikipedia on the ESA\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14668593329333462275\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBabbitt v. Sweet Home Chapter, Communities for Great Ore.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11603759272819987617\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTennesse Valley Authority v. Hill\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMore about \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snail_darter_controversy\"\u003ethe snail darter controversy\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://www.fws.gov/endangered/what-we-do/hcp-overview.html\"\u003eHabitat Conservation Plans\u003c/a\u003e (USFWS); see also \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitat_Conservation_Plan\"\u003eWikipedia on HCPs\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAn \u003ca href=\"http://hcp.stanford.edu/documents.html\"\u003eexample Habitat Conservation Plan\u003c/a\u003e at Stanford University\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_easement\"\u003econservation easements\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJessica Owley, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1982833\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eExacted Conservation Easements: Emerging Concerns with Enforcement\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://parks.smcgov.org/documents/san-bruno-mountain-habitat-conservation-plan-hcp\"\u003eThe San Bruno Mountain Habitat Conservation Plan and related documents\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10150124802357408838\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLujan v. Defenders of Wildlife\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Jessica Owley.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On endangered species, with Jessica Owley.","date_published":"2015-05-30T07:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/61bbefe9-38e0-4e86-8a16-e5fb5301d603.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40836212,"duration_in_seconds":4954}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:555f762ee4b09cfed9896234","title":"Episode 62: Viewer Mail","url":"https://oralargument.org/62","content_text":"It’s just Joe and Christian this week, clearing out viewer mail. We discuss our show, Kerbal Space Program, the bar exam, Virginia’s bar exam dress code, follow-up on ExamSoft, licensing and control, probability, the Monty Hall problem, and being hit by meteors.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nKerbal Space Program (and see, e.g., this video tutorial by the Scott Manley)\nTemma Ehrenfeld, Should You Knit?\nRandall Munroe, Orbital Mechanics on xkcd.com\nDavid Letterman’s Viewer Mail and the Pyramid of Comedy\nOral Argument 61: Minimum Competence\nDaniel Solove, The Multistate Bar Exam as a Theory of Law\nVirginia Board of Bar Examiners, Mandatory Dress Code (compare with the Georgia bar exam’s Dress Code)\nNicholas L. Georgakopoulos, Visualizing Trials with Large DNA Databases\nOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\nAbout the Monty Hall problem\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIt’s just Joe and Christian this week, clearing out viewer mail. We discuss our show, Kerbal Space Program, the bar exam, Virginia’s bar exam dress code, follow-up on ExamSoft, licensing and control, probability, the Monty Hall problem, and being hit by meteors.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/\"\u003eKerbal Space Program\u003c/a\u003e (and see, e.g., \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d74m3qThOoU\"\u003ethis video tutorial\u003c/a\u003e by the Scott Manley)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTemma Ehrenfeld, \u003ca href=\"https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/open-gently/201311/should-you-knit\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShould You Knit?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRandall Munroe, \u003ca href=\"https://xkcd.com/1356/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOrbital Mechanics\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e on \u003ca href=\"https://xkcd.com\"\u003exkcd.com\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Letterman’s \u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/rdndlTLrTPA?t=7m32s\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eViewer Mail and the Pyramid of Comedy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/61\"\u003eOral Argument 61: Minimum Competence\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Solove, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=901720\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Multistate Bar Exam as a Theory of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eVirginia Board of Bar Examiners, \u003ca href=\"http://barexam.virginia.gov/bar/barmdc.html\"\u003eMandatory Dress Code\u003c/a\u003e (compare with the \u003ca href=\"https://www.gabaradmissions.org/exam-rules\"\u003eGeorgia bar exam’s Dress Code\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNicholas L. Georgakopoulos, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2594843\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVisualizing Trials with Large DNA Databases\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/45\"\u003eOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem\"\u003ethe Monty Hall problem\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Viewer Mail! About the bar exam and meteors.","date_published":"2015-05-22T14:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/989caf59-803b-4137-bc3a-6b0c4fa78430.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48317853,"duration_in_seconds":5889}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5556333ae4b07b6145fc43d5","title":"Episode 61: Minimum Competence","url":"https://oralargument.org/61","content_text":"Longtime listener, first time Oral Arguer Derek Muller joins us to talk about the bar exam, through issues particular (the great ExamSoft meltdown of 2014), large (the purpose and utility of the exam overall), and sartorial (Virginia). Joe makes a shocking confession.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDerek Muller’s faculty profile and writing\nThe Virginia Board of Bar Examiners’ Mandatory Dress Code\nDerek Muller, Visualizing the Grim Final Numbers from the July 2014 Bar Exam\nNational Conference of Bar Examiners, National Data for 2014 MBE and MPRE Administrations\nReuters, U.S. States Extend Bar Exam Deadlines After Software Havoc\nJerry Organ, What Might Have Contributed to an Historic Year-Over-Year Decline In the MBE Mean Scaled Score?\nGary Rosin, Unpacking the Bar: Of Cut Scores, Competence, and Crucibles\nOral Argument 12: Heart of Darkness\nDeborah Merritt, ExamSoft Update (including links to Merritt’s other posts on the topic)\nKaren Sloan, Software Maker Settles ‘Barmageddon’ Class Action for $2.1M\nVikram Amar, Lower Bar Pass Rates in Some States Should Cause Us to Examine This Year’s Test, and the Bar Exam in General and Additional Thoughts (and Concerns) About the Low Bar Pass Rates in California and Elsewhere in 2014\nDerek Muller, Here We Go Again: February 2015 Bar Pass Rates Down over Last Year\nAbout the Daniel Webster Scholar Program and its curriculum\nStephanie Clifford and James McKinley Jr., New York to Adopt a Uniform Bar Exam Used in 15 Other States\nErwin Chemerinsky, It’s Time for California to Accept the Uniform Bar Exam\nAbout the Uniform Bar Examination\nSpecial Guest: Derek Muller.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eLongtime listener, first time Oral Arguer Derek Muller joins us to talk about the bar exam, through issues particular (the great ExamSoft meltdown of 2014), large (the purpose and utility of the exam overall), and sartorial (Virginia). Joe makes a shocking confession.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDerek Muller’s \u003ca href=\"http://law.pepperdine.edu/faculty-research/faculty/?faculty=derek_muller\u0026amp;sw=All\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=464341\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe Virginia Board of Bar Examiners’ \u003ca href=\"http://barexam.virginia.gov/bar/barmdc.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMandatory Dress Code\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDerek Muller, \u003ca href=\"http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2015/3/visualizing-the-grim-final-numbers-from-the-july-2014-bar-exam\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVisualizing the Grim Final Numbers from the July 2014 Bar Exam\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNational Conference of Bar Examiners, \u003ca href=\"http://ncbex.org/publications/statistics/\"\u003eNational Data for 2014 MBE and MPRE Administrations\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eReuters, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2014/07/30/us/30reuters-barexam-extensions.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eU.S. States Extend Bar Exam Deadlines After Software Havoc\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJerry Organ, \u003ca href=\"http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/legalwhiteboard/2014/11/what-might-have-contributed-to-an-historic-year-over-year-decline-in-the-mbe-mean-scaled-score.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Might Have Contributed to an Historic Year-Over-Year Decline In the MBE Mean Scaled Score?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGary Rosin, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=988429\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnpacking the Bar: Of Cut Scores, Competence, and Crucibles\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/12\"\u003eOral Argument 12: Heart of Darkness\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDeborah Merritt, \u003ca href=\"http://www.lawschoolcafe.org/thread/examsoft-update/\"\u003eExamSoft Update\u003c/a\u003e (including links to Merritt’s other posts on the topic)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKaren Sloan, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nationallawjournal.com/home/id=1202726589832/Software-Maker-Settles-Barmageddon-Class-Action-for-21M\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSoftware Maker Settles ‘Barmageddon’ Class Action for $2.1M\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eVikram Amar, \u003ca href=\"https://verdict.justia.com/2014/11/21/lower-bar-pass-rates-states-cause-us-examine-years-test-bar-exam-general\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLower Bar Pass Rates in Some States Should Cause Us to Examine This Year’s Test, and the Bar Exam in General\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://verdict.justia.com/2015/01/02/additional-thoughts-concerns-low-bar-pass-rates-california-elsewhere-2014\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAdditional Thoughts (and Concerns) About the Low Bar Pass Rates in California and Elsewhere in 2014\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDerek Muller, \u003ca href=\"http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2015/4/here-we-go-again-february-2015-bar-pass-rates-down-over-last-year\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHere We Go Again: February 2015 Bar Pass Rates Down over Last Year\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://law.unh.edu/academics/jd-degree/daniel-webster-scholars/\"\u003ethe Daniel Webster Scholar Program\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://law.unh.edu/academics/jd-degree/daniel-webster-scholars/curriculum\"\u003eits curriculum\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephanie Clifford and James McKinley Jr., \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/06/nyregion/new-york-state-to-adopt-uniform-bar-exam.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNew York to Adopt a Uniform Bar Exam Used in 15 Other States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eErwin Chemerinsky, \u003ca href=\"http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0511-chemerinsky-standard-bar-exam-20150511-story.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIt’s Time for California to Accept the Uniform Bar Exam\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncbex.org/exams/ube/\"\u003ethe Uniform Bar Examination\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Derek Muller.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Talking about the bar exam, with Derek Muller.","date_published":"2015-05-15T14:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/c47af55e-b792-4dab-a70a-bff8ac11eada.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":47605251,"duration_in_seconds":5800}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:554d0009e4b0c5a0d53e39e1","title":"Episode 60: The Wisdom of the Bartow","url":"https://oralargument.org/60","content_text":"After fighting with Skype, Ann Bartow joins us to discuss her experience living, teaching, and researching law and especially IP law in China. Also: feedback, Kerbal Space Program, existential angst, and more.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAnn Bartow’s faculty profile and writing\nKerbal Space Program\nThe Philosophy Bites podcast\nOpen Yale Courses, Phil 176: Death\nRenowned IP Scholar Ann Bartow to Lead Franklin Pierce Center for Intellectual Property at UNH Law\nAnn Bartow, Privacy Laws and Privacy Levers: Online Surveillance versus Economic Development in the People's Republic of China\nLijia Zhang, China’s Death-Penalty Debate (noting the changing approach to the death penalty in China and the 2007 move by China’s Supreme Court to assert jurisdiction over death penalty appeals); see also Wikipedia on capital punishment in China (noting more details of the post-2007 appellate procedure)\nAbout Chinese patent law\nChina’s IP-related laws and other information as collected by the World Intellectual Property Organization\nJeffrey Podoshen, Materialism and Conspicuous Consumption in China\nChina Economic Review, Chinese Shoppers Begin to Master the Art of Subtlety\nAbout WeChat\nChina Law and Practice, Copyright Administration Gives in to Musicians\nChina Retains on Foreign Film Quota (noting that, as of February 2014, the foreign film quota was thirty-four films per year)\nEric Priest, Copyright Extremophiles: Do Creative Industries Thrive or Just Survive in China's High Piracy Environment?\nSpecial Guest: Ann Bartow.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAfter fighting with Skype, Ann Bartow joins us to discuss her experience living, teaching, and researching law and especially IP law in China. Also: feedback, Kerbal Space Program, existential angst, and more.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnn Bartow’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.unh.edu/faculty/bartow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=328005\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/\"\u003eKerbal Space Program\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://philosophybites.com\"\u003ePhilosophy Bites podcast\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOpen Yale Courses, \u003ca href=\"http://oyc.yale.edu/philosophy/phil-176\"\u003ePhil 176: Death\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://law.unh.edu/news/2015/04/renowned-ip-scholar-ann-bartow-to-lead-franklin-pierce-center-for-ip\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRenowned IP Scholar Ann Bartow to Lead Franklin Pierce Center for Intellectual Property at UNH Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnn Bartow, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2368530\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePrivacy Laws and Privacy Levers: Online Surveillance versus Economic Development in the People's Republic of China\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLijia Zhang, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/30/opinion/chinas-death-penalty-debate.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChina’s Death-Penalty Debate\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (noting the changing approach to the death penalty in China and the 2007 move by China’s Supreme Court to assert jurisdiction over death penalty appeals); see also \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China\"\u003eWikipedia on capital punishment in China\u003c/a\u003e (noting more details of the post-2007 appellate procedure)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_law_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China\"\u003eChinese patent law\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/profile.jsp?code=CN\"\u003eChina’s IP-related laws\u003c/a\u003e and other information as collected by the World Intellectual Property Organization\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeffrey Podoshen, \u003ca href=\"http://www.researchgate.net/publication/230249348_Materialism_and_conspicuous_consumption_in_China_a_crosscultural_examination\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMaterialism and Conspicuous Consumption in China\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChina Economic Review, \u003ca href=\"http://www.chinaeconomicreview.com/consumer-luxury-shopping-trends\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChinese Shoppers Begin to Master the Art of Subtlety\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WeChat\"\u003eWeChat\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChina Law and Practice, \u003ca href=\"http://www.chinalawandpractice.com/Article/3059564/Channel/9937/Copyright-Administration-gives-in-to-musicians.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCopyright Administration Gives in to Musicians\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-26152190\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChina Retains on Foreign Film Quota\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (noting that, as of February 2014, the foreign film quota was thirty-four films per year)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEric Priest, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2466026\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCopyright Extremophiles: Do Creative Industries Thrive or Just Survive in China's High Piracy Environment?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Ann Bartow.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"IP in China, with Ann Bartow.","date_published":"2015-05-08T14:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/e659b0b1-d2de-4ce3-bf04-8612c5e1acb9.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40073186,"duration_in_seconds":4858}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:554578e4e4b0ca8061e308cd","title":"Episode 59: Folly Bridges","url":"https://oralargument.org/59","content_text":"Friend of the show and “Freaks and Geeks” extra Sarah Schindler returns to join us live at Oral Argument World Headquarters to talk about the exclusion we impose not through law but through building and architecture. We make an outdoor party of it with very special guests Paul Heald, Jessica Owley, and Justin Steil. (With so many of us gathered around three microphones, forgive us for a little more unevenness in levels than usual.)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSarah Schindler’s faculty profile and writing\nOral Argument 4: Grow a Pear\nSarah Schindler, Architectural Exclusion\nOur guest hosts: Paul Heald (Paul’s writing), Jessica Owley (Jesse’s writing), and Justin Steil (Justin’s writing)\nAbout Robert Moses and his low bridges\nNicholas Blomley, Traffic Logic and Political Logic\nAbout NEPA and environmental impact statements\nRobin Malloy, Inclusion by Design, Thinking Beyond a Civil Rights Paradigm\nWashington v. Davis\nBenjamin Mueller, In Connecticut, Breaking a Barrier Between a Suburb and Public Housing\nBarton Hinkle, Zoning’s Racist Roots Still Bear Fruit (referencing, like Sarah’s article, the 1910 mayor of Baltimore’s support for zoning that would “quarantine” black residents in “isolated slums”)\nAbout the Edmund Pettus Bridge\nAbout public choice\nLinks to audio and text of David Foster Wallace’s This Is Water\nSpecial Guests: Jessica Owley, Paul Heald, and Sarah Schindler.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eFriend of the show and “Freaks and Geeks” extra Sarah Schindler returns to join us live at Oral Argument World Headquarters to talk about the exclusion we impose not through law but through building and architecture. We make an outdoor party of it with very special guests Paul Heald, Jessica Owley, and Justin Steil. (With so many of us gathered around three microphones, forgive us for a little more unevenness in levels than usual.)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Schindler’s \u003ca href=\"http://mainelaw.maine.edu/faculty-member/sarah-schindler/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1099143\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/4\"\u003eOral Argument 4: Grow a Pear\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Schindler, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2595294\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eArchitectural Exclusion\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOur guest hosts: \u003ca href=\"https://www.law.illinois.edu/faculty/profile/paulheald\"\u003ePaul Heald\u003c/a\u003e (\u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=227781\"\u003ePaul’s writing\u003c/a\u003e), \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.buffalo.edu/faculty/facultyDirectory/OwleyJessica.html\"\u003eJessica Owley\u003c/a\u003e (\u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=859908\"\u003eJesse’s writing\u003c/a\u003e), and \u003ca href=\"http://furmancenter.org/about/team\"\u003eJustin Steil\u003c/a\u003e (\u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1056461\"\u003eJustin’s writing\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Moses#Legacy_and_lasting_impact\"\u003eRobert Moses and his low bridges\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNicholas Blomley, \u003ca href=\"http://rhr.dukejournals.org/content/2012/114/165.short\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTraffic Logic and Political Logic\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Environmental_Policy_Act#Preparation_of_an_Environmental_Impact_Statement\"\u003eNEPA and environmental impact statements\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRobin Malloy, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2581686\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInclusion by Design, Thinking Beyond a Civil Rights Paradigm\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10318991495621925878\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWashington v. Davis\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBenjamin Mueller, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/12/nyregion/in-connecticut-breaking-barrier-between-a-suburb-and-public-housing.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIn Connecticut, Breaking a Barrier Between a Suburb and Public Housing\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBarton Hinkle, \u003ca href=\"http://www.richmond.com/opinion/our-opinion/article_816f2234-9a4d-584c-8347-27cd243c8687.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eZoning’s Racist Roots Still Bear Fruit\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (referencing, like Sarah’s article, the 1910 mayor of Baltimore’s support for zoning that would “quarantine” black residents in “isolated slums”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Pettus_Bridge#Civil_rights_flashpoint\"\u003eEdmund Pettus Bridge\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_choice\"\u003epublic choice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLinks to audio and text of \u003ca href=\"http://www.openculture.com/2012/03/david_foster_wallaces_kenyon_graduation_speech.html\"\u003eDavid Foster Wallace’s \u003cem\u003eThis Is Water\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guests: Jessica Owley, Paul Heald, and Sarah Schindler.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On architectural exclusion, with Sarah Schindler and friends.","date_published":"2015-05-02T21:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/b779e5f2-5951-442d-84c0-e7fab4e4a726.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37036545,"duration_in_seconds":4479}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:553a9505e4b0d55187a2b596","title":"Episode 58: Obscurity Settings","url":"https://oralargument.org/58","content_text":"What kind of privacy do we want to have? What makes others’ knowledge about us turn from everyday acceptable to weird and creepy? Woody Hartzog talks with us about the difficulties of maintaining privacy, whatever it should be, online and in social networks. We’re used to the cheap obscurity and fleetingness of our physical lives, but it’s cheap and tempting to know more about others online than they’d like. Can we design platforms to deliver the individual obscurity we’ve enjoyed in the past? Conversation ranges between celebrities and privacy, searchability, giving up on hiding that we’re all gross and weird, our many identities, the problem of dumb teenagers, protected Twitter accounts, internet bad guys, and naked, dancing Buddhist monks.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nWoody Hartzog’s faculty profile and writing\nPhilosophy Bites, Shaun Nichols on Death and the Self\nWoodrow Hartzog, Chain-Link Confidentiality\nJoshua Fairfield, BitProperty\nAbout security through obscurity\nWoodrow Hartzog and Frederic Stutzman, Obscurity by Design\nDaniel Solve, A Taxonomy of Privacy\nDavid Brin, The Transparent Society\nCass Sunstein, Republic.com\nAbout the narcissism of small differences\nRichard Posner, The Right of Privacy\nNeil Richards, Intellectual Privacy (the article) and Intellectual Privacy (the book)\nLibrary of Congress, Update on the Twitter Archive at the Library of Congress\nTwitter, About Public and Protected Tweets; see also Greg Kumparak, Twitter Bug Allowed Some Protected Accounts to Be Read by Unapproved Followers\nAbout Yik Yak\nMike Isaac, A Look Behind the Snapchat Photo Leak Claims\nIn the Matter of Red Zone Investment Group, Inc., an FTC case involving, among other things, a fake windows registration window\nWoodrow Hartzog, Website Design as Contract\nAbout the Whisper app\nAbout the Sears Holdings Management Corp. case before the FTC\nSpecial Guest: Woodrow Hartzog.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhat kind of privacy do we want to have? What makes others’ knowledge about us turn from everyday acceptable to weird and creepy? Woody Hartzog talks with us about the difficulties of maintaining privacy, whatever it should be, online and in social networks. We’re used to the cheap obscurity and fleetingness of our physical lives, but it’s cheap and tempting to know more about others online than they’d like. Can we design platforms to deliver the individual obscurity we’ve enjoyed in the past? Conversation ranges between celebrities and privacy, searchability, giving up on hiding that we’re all gross and weird, our many identities, the problem of dumb teenagers, protected Twitter accounts, internet bad guys, and naked, dancing Buddhist monks.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWoody Hartzog’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.samford.edu/cumberlandlaw/faculty/?id=21474863310\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1107005\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePhilosophy Bites, \u003ca href=\"http://philosophybites.com/2015/04/shaun-nichols-on-death-and-the-self.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShaun Nichols on Death and the Self\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWoodrow Hartzog, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2045818\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChain-Link Confidentiality\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoshua Fairfield, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2504710\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBitProperty\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity\"\u003esecurity through obscurity\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWoodrow Hartzog and Frederic Stutzman, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2284583\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eObscurity by Design\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Solve, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=667622\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Taxonomy of Privacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Brin, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/The-Transparent-Society-Technology-Between/dp/0738201448\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Transparent Society\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCass Sunstein, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Republic-com-Cass-R-Sunstein/dp/0691070253\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRepublic.com\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences\"\u003enarcissism of small differences\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Posner, \u003ca href=\"http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2803\u0026amp;context=journal_articles\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Right of Privacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNeil Richards, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1108268\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIntellectual Privacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the article) and \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Intellectual-Privacy-Rethinking-Liberties-Digital/dp/0199946140\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIntellectual Privacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the book)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLibrary of Congress, \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2013/01/update-on-the-twitter-archive-at-the-library-of-congress/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUpdate on the Twitter Archive at the Library of Congress\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTwitter, \u003ca href=\"https://support.twitter.com/articles/14016-about-public-and-protected-tweets\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAbout Public and Protected Tweets\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also Greg Kumparak, \u003ca href=\"http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/10/twitter-bug-allowed-some-protected-accounts-to-be-read-by-unapproved-followers/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTwitter Bug Allowed Some Protected Accounts to Be Read by Unapproved Followers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yik_Yak\"\u003eYik Yak\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMike Isaac, \u003ca href=\"http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/a-look-behind-the-snapchat-photo-leak-claims/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Look Behind the Snapchat Photo Leak Claims\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cases/2013/04/130415redzonecmpt.pdf\"\u003eIn the Matter of \u003cem\u003eRed Zone Investment Group, Inc.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, an FTC case involving, among other things, a fake windows registration window\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWoodrow Hartzog, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1808108\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWebsite Design as Contract\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisper_(app)\"\u003eWhisper app\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_re_Sears_Holdings_Management_Corp.\"\u003eSears Holdings Management Corp. case\u003c/a\u003e before the FTC\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Woodrow Hartzog.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Privacy through obscurity, with Woodrow Hartzog.","date_published":"2015-04-24T15:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/fb3d72aa-0627-4182-ba24-3f0ee2ca47bd.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48379315,"duration_in_seconds":5897}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55310ecbe4b0389cde747ba2","title":"Episode 57: Light It on Fire and Shove It into the Atlantic","url":"https://oralargument.org/57","content_text":"We hereby deliver an evening episode comprising role-playing, word pictures, and other podcasting art forms to convey critical information on, among other miscellany: Christian’s week of broken things, follow-up on lines, math and the book of true reasons, Mark Lemley’s article on “faith-based IP,” imagining Benjamin Franklin’s lightning powered potato peeler, iPhone copycats, and, morality aside, the death penalty’s stupidity, and the measure of a civilization.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nThe Wirecutter and the Sweet Home\nOral Argument 55: Cronut Lines\nThe documentary about people competing to win a truck, Hands on a Hardbody\nOral Argument 51: The Faucet (guest John Pfaff)\nEuclid’s Elements\nAbout Paul Erdős\nMark Lemley, Faith-Based Intellectual Property\nFrank Michelman, Takings\nMark Lemley, The Surprising Virtues of Treating Trade Secrets as IP Rights\nInternational News Service v. Associated Press\nSCOTUSblog on Glossip v. Gross\nAssociated Press, Utah Brings Back Firing Squads as Lethal Injection Drugs Remain Scarce\nAbout Cameron Todd Willingham\nOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\nAbout “death-qualified” juries\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe hereby deliver an evening episode comprising role-playing, word pictures, and other podcasting art forms to convey critical information on, among other miscellany: Christian’s week of broken things, follow-up on lines, math and the book of true reasons, Mark Lemley’s article on “faith-based IP,” imagining Benjamin Franklin’s lightning powered potato peeler, iPhone copycats, and, morality aside, the death penalty’s stupidity, and the measure of a civilization.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://thewirecutter.com\"\u003eThe Wirecutter\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://thesweethome.com\"\u003ethe Sweet Home\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/55\"\u003eOral Argument 55: Cronut Lines\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe documentary about people competing to win a truck, \u003ca href=\"http://www.handsonahardbodythemovie.com\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHands on a Hardbody\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/51\"\u003eOral Argument 51: The Faucet (guest John Pfaff)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/java/elements/toc.html\"\u003eEuclid’s Elements\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erdős\"\u003eAbout Paul Erdős\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Lemley, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2587297\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFaith-Based Intellectual Property\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Michelman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/1122595\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTakings\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Lemley, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1155167\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Surprising Virtues of Treating Trade Secrets as IP Rights\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16577297531712180725\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInternational News Service v. Associated Press\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSCOTUSblog on \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/glossip-v-gross/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGlossip v. Gross\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAssociated Press, \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/2015/03/23/394957508/utah-brings-back-firing-squads-as-lethal-injection-drugs-remain-scarce\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUtah Brings Back Firing Squads as Lethal Injection Drugs Remain Scarce\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham\"\u003eCameron Todd Willingham\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/45\"\u003eOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death-qualified_jury\"\u003e“death-qualified” juries\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"More on lines, math, IP, and the death penalty.","date_published":"2015-04-17T10:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/0cc1f50b-9eee-4991-b6e7-b747f4e9c0e4.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":50384948,"duration_in_seconds":6147}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:55283034e4b056c5dc506736","title":"Episode 56: Cracking and Packing","url":"https://oralargument.org/56","content_text":"When you have election law and constitutional law scholar Lori Ringhand on your show, you start, of course, by talking about the problem with email, the uses of texting, and apps like Periscope. Lori thinks Christian should read more novels. Fueled by listener Bunny’s small-batch, home-roasted, fine coffee, we move on to the much easier topics of race, voting, and gerrymandering. What do you do when the Supreme Court’s color-blindness understanding of the Equal Protection Clause collides with the Voting Rights Act? And why do geographic voting districts with single winners make sense anyway? Voting’s hard to make fair amirite?\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nLori Ringhand’s faculty profile and writing\nPeriscope\nAbout Margaret Atwood’s Oryx and Crake\nLori’s last appearance on the show\nThe SCOTUSblog page for Arizona State Legislature v. Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission (which includes links to briefs and oral argument)\nAlabama Legislative Black Caucus v. Alabama\nAbout the Voting Rights Act, including a brief outline of its major provisions\nShelby County v. Holder\nAbout cracking, packing, and other redistricting shenanigans; see also more on this in ProPublica’s Devil’s Dictionary\nAbout multiple-winner voting methods and single-winner voting methods (which distinction roughly tracks some of the issues we raised)\nShaw v. Reno, which was followed by Miller v. Johnson\nPartisan gerrymandering cases: Davis v. Bandemer (1986), Vieth v. Jubelirer (2004), League of United Latin American Citizens v. Perry (2006)\nChristopher Elmendorf, Representation Reinforcement through Advisory Commissions: The Case of Election Law\nLinks to the oral argument in the Arizona case\nSmiley v. Holm and Bush v. Gore (and it was Justice Rehnquist’s concurrence)\nSpecial Guest: Lori Ringhand.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhen you have election law and constitutional law scholar Lori Ringhand on your show, you start, of course, by talking about the problem with email, the uses of texting, and apps like Periscope. Lori thinks Christian should read more novels. Fueled by listener Bunny’s small-batch, home-roasted, fine coffee, we move on to the much easier topics of race, voting, and gerrymandering. What do you do when the Supreme Court’s color-blindness understanding of the Equal Protection Clause collides with the Voting Rights Act? And why do geographic voting districts with single winners make sense anyway? Voting’s hard to make fair amirite?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLori Ringhand’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/lori-ringhand\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=332414\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.periscope.tv\"\u003ePeriscope\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout Margaret Atwood’s \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oryx_and_Crake\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOryx and Crake\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLori’s \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/32\"\u003elast appearance on the show\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe SCOTUSblog page for \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/arizona-state-legislature-v-arizona-independent-redistricting-commission/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eArizona State Legislature v. Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (which includes links to briefs and oral argument)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/13-895_o7jq.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAlabama Legislative Black Caucus v. Alabama\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965\"\u003ethe Voting Rights Act\u003c/a\u003e, including a \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965#Provisions\"\u003ebrief outline of its major provisions\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-96_6k47.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShelby County v. Holder\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering#Gerrymandering_tactics\"\u003ecracking, packing, and other redistricting shenanigans\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"http://www.propublica.org/article/redistricting-a-devils-dictionary\"\u003emore on this in ProPublica’s Devil’s Dictionary\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_system#Multiple-winner_methods\"\u003emultiple-winner voting methods\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_system#Single-winner_methods\"\u003esingle-winner voting methods\u003c/a\u003e (which distinction roughly tracks some of the issues we raised)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2057233072475851470\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShaw v. Reno\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, which was followed by \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7185803527074045268\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMiller v. Johnson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePartisan gerrymandering cases: \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16393705826542726377\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDavis v. Bandemer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (1986), \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16656282825028631654\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVieth v. Jubelirer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (2004), \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17194834691158050548\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLeague of United Latin American Citizens v. Perry\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (2006)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher Elmendorf, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=721741\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRepresentation Reinforcement through Advisory Commissions: The Case of Election Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLinks to the \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2014/13-1314\"\u003eoral argument in the Arizona case\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1547832757359985052\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSmiley v. Holm\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2298973060085224552\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBush v. Gore\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and it was Justice Rehnquist’s concurrence)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Lori Ringhand.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On voting and race, with Lori Ringhand.","date_published":"2015-04-10T16:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/941a803e-ea09-49e2-9ff8-265c8a9c5b10.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48088819,"duration_in_seconds":5860}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:551eae50e4b0ab145384810c","title":"Episode 55: Cronut Lines","url":"https://oralargument.org/55","content_text":"Why do people stand in line? Or is it “on line”? Of course it isn’t. But the question remains. We talk with Dave Fagundes, scholar of, among many other things, roller derby, who has written the cutting edge article on why we form lines even without laws requiring them. Discussion ranges from cronuts to rock bands to carpool lanes to phone apps.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDave Fagundes’s faculty profile and writing\nThe decision in Armstrong v. Exceptional Child Center and Steve Vladeck’s reaction, Steve’s having discussed this case in episode 38\nDavid Fagundes, Waiting in Line: Norms, Markets, and the Law\nEpisodes 31 and 32, in which there are links and discussion concerning the “knee defender” controversy and airline seat reclining\nDavid Fagundes, Talk Derby to Me: Intellectual Property Norms Governing Roller Derby Pseudonyms\nA stachexchange thread about standing “in line” vs. “on line”\nThe word “spendy” dates from 1911 at the latest\nHow Y’all, Youse and You Guys Talk, a quiz to see your personal dialect map\nHella Blitzgeral, roller derbyist\nLisa Bernstein, Opting out of the Legal System: Extralegal Contractual Relations in the Diamond Industry\nRobert Ellickson, Of Coase and Cattle: Dispute Resolution Among Neighbors in Shasta County (and more in his book, Order Without Law)\nPhilosophy Bites: Lisa Bortolotti on Irrationality\nLouis Kaplow and Steven Shavell, Fairness versus Welfare: Notes on the Pareto Principle, Preferences, and Distributive Justice\nLeon Mann, Queue Culture: The Waiting Line as a Social System\nAbout cronuts\nCarol Rose, Possession as the Origin of Property\nThomas Merrill and Henry Smith, Optimal Standardization in the Law of Property: The Numerus Clausus Principle\nAn example of a “queuing app”\nAbout the “tit for tat” strategy and its connection to human nature in Robert Axelrod, The Evolution of Cooperation\nAn excerpt on social norms from Dan Ariely’s Predictably Irrational\nThe excerpt on videphones from David Foster Wallace’s Infinite Jest; see also Infinite Summer\nMichael Sandel, What Money Can’t Buy: The Moral Limits of Markets (his Tanner Lecture)\nLior Strahilevitz, How Changes in Property Regimes Influence Social Norms: Commodifying California's Carpool Lanes\nDavid Fagundes, The Pink’s Paradox: Excessively Long Food Lines as Overly Strong Signals of Quality, referring to Pink’s Hot Dogs; see also Sally’s Apizza\nThe set of policies for “Krzyzewskiville,” the grassy lawn at Duke where students line up for days to get basketball tickets\nCatherine Eade, Diplomatic (Snow) Storm Erupts After American Ambassador to Switzerland Criticises Its Ski Lift Queues\nAbout power distance index\nJohn Wiseman, Aspects of Social Organisation in a Nigerian Petrol Queue\nLior Strahilevitz, Charismatic Code, Social Norms, and the Emergence of Cooperation on the File-Swapping Networks (discussing reciprocity cascades)\nDan Kahan, The Logic of Reciprocity: Trust, Collective Action, and Law\nFelix Oberholzer-Gee, A Market for Time: Fairness and Efficiency in Waiting Lines\nStanley Milgram, Response to Intrusion into Waiting Lines\nSpecial Guest: Dave Fagundes.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhy do people stand in line? Or is it “on line”? Of course it isn’t. But the question remains. We talk with Dave Fagundes, scholar of, among many other things, roller derby, who has written the cutting edge article on why we form lines even without laws requiring them. Discussion ranges from cronuts to rock bands to carpool lanes to phone apps.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDave Fagundes’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.swlaw.edu/faculty/faculty_listing/facultybio/340617\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=522757\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-15_d1oe.pdf\"\u003edecision in \u003cem\u003eArmstrong v. Exceptional Child Center\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2015/03/armstrong-is-utterly-disingenuous-statutory-interpretation-ever-worth-it.html#more\"\u003eSteve Vladeck’s reaction\u003c/a\u003e, Steve’s having discussed this case in \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/38\"\u003eepisode 38\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Fagundes, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2568322\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWaiting in Line: Norms, Markets, and the Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEpisodes \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/31\"\u003e31\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/32\"\u003e32\u003c/a\u003e, in which there are links and discussion concerning the “knee defender” controversy and airline seat reclining\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Fagundes, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1755305\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTalk Derby to Me: Intellectual Property Norms Governing Roller Derby Pseudonyms\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eA \u003ca href=\"http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/274/which-is-correct-standing-on-line-or-standing-in-line\"\u003estachexchange thread\u003c/a\u003e about standing “in line” vs. “on line”\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe word “spendy” \u003ca href=\"http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/09/spendy-spree.html\"\u003edates from 1911 at the latest\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/12/20/sunday-review/dialect-quiz-map.html\"\u003eHow Y’all, Youse and You Guys Talk\u003c/a\u003e, a quiz to see your personal dialect map\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.atlantarollergirls.com/arg-teams/apocalypstix/hella-blitzgerald/\"\u003eHella Blitzgeral\u003c/a\u003e, roller derbyist\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Bernstein, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/724403\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOpting out of the Legal System: Extralegal Contractual Relations in the Diamond Industry\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRobert Ellickson, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1465\u0026amp;context=fss_papers\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOf Coase and Cattle: Dispute Resolution Among Neighbors in Shasta County\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and more in his book, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Order-without-Law-Neighbors-Disputes/dp/0674641698\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOrder Without Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://philosophybites.com/2015/03/lisa-bortolotti-on-irrationality.html\"\u003ePhilosophy Bites: Lisa Bortolotti on Irrationality\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLouis Kaplow and Steven Shavell, \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/shavell/pdf/32_J_Legal_Stud_331.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFairness versus Welfare: Notes on the Pareto Principle, Preferences, and Distributive Justice\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLeon Mann, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/2775696\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eQueue Culture: The Waiting Line as a Social System\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronut\"\u003eAbout cronuts\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCarol Rose, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2829\u0026amp;context=fss_papers\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePossession as the Origin of Property\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThomas Merrill and Henry Smith, \u003ca href=\"http://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/9414573/110YaleLJ1.pdf?sequence=1\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOptimal Standardization in the Law of Property: The\u003c/em\u003e Numerus Clausus \u003cem\u003ePrinciple\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.qminderapp.com/mobile-app/\"\u003eAn example\u003c/a\u003e of a “queuing app”\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat\"\u003eAbout the “tit for tat” strategy\u003c/a\u003e and its connection to human nature in Robert Axelrod, \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Evolution_of_Cooperation\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Evolution of Cooperation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://danariely.com/the-books/excerpted-from-chapter-4-–-the-cost-of-social-norms/\"\u003eAn excerpt on social norms\u003c/a\u003e from Dan Ariely’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Predictably-Irrational-Revised-Expanded-Edition/dp/0061353248\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePredictably Irrational\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://declineofscarcity.com/?page_id=2527\"\u003eThe excerpt on videphones\u003c/a\u003e from David Foster Wallace’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Infinite-Jest-David-Foster-Wallace/dp/0316066524\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInfinite Jest\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"http://infinitesummer.org\"\u003eInfinite Summer\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Sandel, \u003ca href=\"http://tannerlectures.utah.edu/_documents/a-to-z/s/sandel00.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Money Can’t Buy: The Moral Limits of Markets\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (his Tanner Lecture)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLior Strahilevitz, \u003ca href=\"http://www.repository.law.indiana.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2203\u0026amp;context=ilj\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow Changes in Property Regimes Influence Social Norms: Commodifying California's Carpool Lanes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Fagundes, \u003ca href=\"http://concurringopinions.com/archives/2011/08/the-pinks-paradox.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Pink’s Paradox: Excessively Long Food Lines as Overly Strong Signals of Quality\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, referring to \u003ca href=\"http://www.pinkshollywood.com\"\u003ePink’s Hot Dogs\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"http://sallysapizza.com\"\u003eSally’s Apizza\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.kvillenation.com/policy\"\u003eset of policies for “Krzyzewskiville,”\u003c/a\u003e the grassy lawn at Duke where students line up for days to get basketball tickets\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCatherine Eade, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2900704/Diplomatic-snow-storm-erupts-American-ambassador-Switzerland-criticises-ski-lift-queues.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDiplomatic (Snow) Storm Erupts After American Ambassador to Switzerland Criticises Its Ski Lift Queues\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstede's_cultural_dimensions_theory#Dimensions_of_national_cultures\"\u003eAbout power distance index\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Wiseman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/160721\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAspects of Social Organisation in a Nigerian Petrol Queue\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLior Strahilevitz, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=329700\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCharismatic Code, Social Norms, and the Emergence of Cooperation on the File-Swapping Networks\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (discussing reciprocity cascades)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDan Kahan, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=361400\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Logic of Reciprocity: Trust, Collective Action, and Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFelix Oberholzer-Gee, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=914248\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Market for Time: Fairness and Efficiency in Waiting Lines\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStanley Milgram, \u003ca href=\"http://www.fullertonhigh.org/apps/download/fcmEbuP5V8KjLIzwMfjnNa9yr9hCDdcUDsctcU2yFBFfwqVM.pdf/Milgram%20-%20Waiting%20in%20lines.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eResponse to Intrusion into Waiting Lines\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Dave Fagundes.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The one about standing in line, with Dave Fagundes.","date_published":"2015-04-03T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/12f66b87-f4d5-4694-a717-dc86ff98105c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":49490453,"duration_in_seconds":6036}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5515d5e7e4b0d9aaa8be0241","title":"Episode 54: No Throttling","url":"https://oralargument.org/54","content_text":"Christian finds himself among two telecommunications and IP experts, Joe and guest Aaron Perzanowski, to discuss the FCC’s recently issued regulations mandating some form of “net neutrality” on broadband internet providers. Will these regulations hold up? Why does your cable company want to provide you with “antivirus” software? What did we receive in the mail last week? Which listener thinks we’re full of it? It’s all in this week’s show.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAaron Perzanowski’s faculty profile and writing\nEpisode 52 and Episode 53 on King v. Burwell \nWilliam Baude, Could Obama Bypass the Supreme Court?, and Michael Dorf, Obama Wouldn’t Circumvent SCOTUS on Subsidies\nWe’ve reached North Dakota!\nOur earlier shows on net neutrality: Episode 49, Episode 16 (with Jim Speta), and Episode 10 (with Christina Mulligan)\nAbout the FCC’s Open Internet Order\nDownload page for the Open Internet Order and Commissioner statements\nAbout the FCC Computer Inquiries of the 1960s and 1970s\nAT\u0026amp;T v. City of Portland\nNational Cable \u0026amp; Telecommunications Assn. v. Brand X Internet Services\nVerizon v. FCC\nAbout the FCC’s Incentive Auction for the 600MHz band\nSpecial Guest: Aaron Perzanowski.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eChristian finds himself among two telecommunications and IP experts, Joe and guest Aaron Perzanowski, to discuss the FCC’s recently issued regulations mandating some form of “net neutrality” on broadband internet providers. Will these regulations hold up? Why does your cable company want to provide you with “antivirus” software? What did we receive in the mail last week? Which listener thinks we’re full of it? It’s all in this week’s show.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAaron Perzanowski’s \u003ca href=\"http://law.case.edu/OurSchool/FacultyStaff/MeetOurFaculty/FacultyDetail.aspx?id=1032\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=698753#reg\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/52\"\u003eEpisode 52\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/53\"\u003eEpisode 53\u003c/a\u003e on \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/king-v-burwell/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKing v. Burwell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Baude, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/opinion/could-obama-bypass-the-supreme-court.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCould Obama Bypass the Supreme Court?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, and Michael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2015/03/obama-wouldnt-circumvent-scotus-on.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eObama Wouldn’t Circumvent SCOTUS on Subsidies\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/oralargument/status/580701176045391872\"\u003eWe’ve reached North Dakota!\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOur earlier shows on net neutrality: \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/49\"\u003eEpisode 49\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/16\"\u003eEpisode 16 (with Jim Speta)\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/10\"\u003eEpisode 10 (with Christina Mulligan)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.fcc.gov/openinternet\"\u003eAbout the FCC’s Open Internet Order\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-open-internet-order\"\u003eDownload page\u003c/a\u003e for the Open Internet Order and Commissioner statements\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_Computer_Inquiries\"\u003eAbout the FCC Computer Inquiries\u003c/a\u003e of the 1960s and 1970s\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12748541126482111647\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAT\u0026amp;T v. City of Portland\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9224020825253625133\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNational Cable \u0026amp; Telecommunications Assn. v. Brand X Internet Services\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17615388436478528143\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVerizon v. FCC\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.fcc.gov/topic/incentive-auctions\"\u003eAbout the FCC’s Incentive Auction for the 600MHz band\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Aaron Perzanowski.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the FCC's net neutrality regs, with Aaron Perzanowski.","date_published":"2015-03-27T18:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/83f0ed5b-652a-4070-a556-01ac8d4101d6.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":50722193,"duration_in_seconds":6190}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5505ffa7e4b07d153dd2154e","title":"Episode 53: A Satanic Level of Entropy","url":"https://oralargument.org/53","content_text":"We start with developments in an area at the core of expertise: speed traps. We continue with policing and, mainly, more on the Obamacare II case. We also have been told to expect an emolument.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMichelle Wirth, Bill To Reduce ‘Speed Traps’ Gains Senate Approval\nDOJ Civil Rights Division, Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department; AG Holder’s prepared remarks on the report\nOral Argument 52: Nihilism\nThe SCOTUSblog page for King v. Burwell, containing the briefs, commentary, and links to the argument\nDavid Ziff, Halbig and the “Isolationist” Theory of Statutory Interpretation\nDavid Ziff, Halbig and the Problem of Creeping Constitutionalism\nSimon Maloy, GOP’s George Costanza Moment: The “Moops” Doctrine and the War on Obamacare\ncoffeegeek.com’s review of the Gene Cafe Roaster\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe start with developments in an area at the core of expertise: speed traps. We continue with policing and, mainly, more on the Obamacare II case. We also have been told to expect an emolument.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichelle Wirth, \u003ca href=\"http://wabe.org/post/bill-reduce-speed-traps-gains-senate-approval\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBill To Reduce ‘Speed Traps’ Gains Senate Approval\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDOJ Civil Rights Division, \u003ca href=\"http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInvestigation of the Ferguson Police Department\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; AG Holder’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-holder-delivers-update-investigations-ferguson-missouri\"\u003eprepared remarks\u003c/a\u003e on the report\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://http://oralargument.org/52\"\u003eOral Argument 52: Nihilism\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/king-v-burwell/\"\u003eSCOTUSblog page for \u003cem\u003eKing v. Burwell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, containing the briefs, commentary, and links to the argument\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Ziff, \u003ca href=\"https://ziffblog.wordpress.com/2014/11/03/reflections-from-cato-halbig-and-the-isolationist-theory-of-statutory-interpretation/\"\u003eHalbig \u003cem\u003eand the “Isolationist” Theory of Statutory Interpretation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Ziff, \u003ca href=\"https://ziffblog.wordpress.com/2014/11/06/halbig-and-the-problem-of-creeping-constitutionalism-cato-reflections-part-v/\"\u003eHalbig \u003cem\u003eand the Problem of Creeping Constitutionalism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSimon Maloy, \u003ca href=\"http://www.salon.com/2014/07/23/gops_george_costanza_moment_the_moops_doctrine_and_the_war_on_obamacare/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGOP’s George Costanza Moment: The “Moops” Doctrine and the War on Obamacare\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ecoffeegeek.com’s \u003ca href=\"http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/accessories/genecaferoaster/EddieDove\"\u003ereview of the Gene Cafe Roaster\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"More on King v. Burwell.","date_published":"2015-03-16T00:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/d345b90b-b3b1-4145-886e-65695baa19b3.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":43787583,"duration_in_seconds":5323}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54fb3df1e4b0297e020c0ec9","title":"Episode 52: Nihilism","url":"https://oralargument.org/52","content_text":"Joe and Christian try to understand King v. Burwell, or Obamacare II, in light of the oral argument last week.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nThe SCOTUSblog page for King v. Burwell, containing the briefs, commentary, and links to the argument`\nThe Supreme Court’s page for downloading audio of the oral argument\nDahlia Lithwick’s Amicus episode about the case\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe and Christian try to understand \u003cem\u003eKing v. Burwell\u003c/em\u003e, or Obamacare II, in light of the oral argument last week.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/king-v-burwell/\"\u003eSCOTUSblog page for \u003cem\u003eKing v. Burwell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, containing the briefs, commentary, and links to the argument`\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2014/14-114\"\u003eSupreme Court’s page for downloading audio\u003c/a\u003e of the oral argument\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/amicus/2015/02/the_future_of_obamacare_depends_on_the_supreme_court_s_interpretation_of.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmicus\u003c/em\u003e episode\u003c/a\u003e about the case\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The one about Obamacare II, King v. Burwell.","date_published":"2015-03-07T13:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/ba924f1c-a795-4785-982b-57f5c6fb8b35.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":47172221,"duration_in_seconds":5746}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54f0fddce4b0376cee6b54da","title":"Episode 51: The Faucet","url":"https://oralargument.org/51","content_text":"Why have prison populations exploded? Yeah, we bet you have an opinion on this. But we’ve got someone on the show with the math: Fordham law prof and empiricist extraordinaire John Pfaff. Everything you think you know about our staggering levels of imprisonment are probably wrong. Also, we offer to set up the Supreme Court audio live stream. Also we report on one listener’s Oral Argument power rankings.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJohn Pfaff’s faculty profile and writing\nBlakely v. Washington and United States v. Booker\nUnited States v. Vernier, increasing a sentence for credit card fraud from up to 51 months to 210 months based on a conclusion that fraud was accompanied by a murder\nJohn Pfaff, The Continued Vitality of Structured Sentencing Following Blakely: The Effectiveness of Voluntary Guidelines\nLeon Neyfakh, Why Are So Many Americans in Prison? (interviewing John for Slate) (and here is the tweet from the Texas District and County Attorneys Association saying John’s theory is idiotic)\nJohn Pfaff, The Micro and Macro Causes of Prison Growth\nJoe Palazzolo, U.S. Prisons Grapple with Aging Populations\nBureau of Justice Statistics, Survey of Inmates in State Correctional Facilities\nDavid Ball, Why State Prisons?\nJohn Pfaff, The War on Drugs and Prison Growth: Limited Importance, Limited Legislative Options\nSpecial Guest: John Pfaff.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhy have prison populations exploded? Yeah, we bet you have an opinion on this. But we’ve got someone on the show with the math: Fordham law prof and empiricist extraordinaire John Pfaff. Everything you think you know about our staggering levels of imprisonment are probably wrong. Also, we offer to set up the Supreme Court audio live stream. Also we report on one listener’s Oral Argument power rankings.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Pfaff’s \u003ca href=\"http://law.fordham.edu/faculty/johnpfaff.htm\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=562360\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16163203473167624369\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBlakely v. Washington\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11853896925646326770\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Booker\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4685622692276530238\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Vernier\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, increasing a sentence for credit card fraud from up to 51 months to 210 months based on a conclusion that fraud was accompanied by a murder\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Pfaff, \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/abstract=869977\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Continued Vitality of Structured Sentencing Following\u003c/em\u003e Blakely\u003cem\u003e: The Effectiveness of Voluntary Guidelines\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLeon Neyfakh, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/02/mass_incarceration_a_provocative_new_theory_for_why_so_many_americans_are.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Are So Many Americans in Prison?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (interviewing John for Slate) (and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/tdcaa/status/565179605368074240\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e is the tweet from the Texas District and County Attorneys Association saying John’s theory is idiotic)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Pfaff, \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/abstract=2181062\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Micro and Macro Causes of Prison Growth\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoe Palazzolo, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-prisons-grapple-with-aging-population-1422498946\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eU.S. Prisons Grapple with Aging Populations\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBureau of Justice Statistics, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=dcdetail\u0026amp;iid=275\"\u003eSurvey of Inmates in State Correctional Facilities\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Ball, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871274\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy State Prisons?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Pfaff, \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/abstract=2496455\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe War on Drugs and Prison Growth: Limited Importance, Limited Legislative Options\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: John Pfaff.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Prison populations, with John Pfaff.","date_published":"2015-02-27T18:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/d5d4cc0c-cad1-449b-844c-f1f0a4a03a0c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":44603641,"duration_in_seconds":5425}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54e76dd5e4b0f761f47abecf","title":"Episode 50: We Have Fully Exhausted the Topic","url":"https://oralargument.org/50","content_text":"Last year’s cert denials in various same-sex marriage cases led to renewed discussion concerning the counterintuitive (to Christian, at least) notion but conventional wisdom that state courts are not bound to follow lower federal courts’ interpretations of federal law. While we discussed and debated this last fall, Amanda Frost was putting the finishing touches on an article reviewing, challenging, and otherwise completely examining this curious doctrine. Was Michael Dorf’s Hammer Blow, as we named the episode with him, the final blow or might some of Christian’s naive doubts be rehabilitated by Prof. Frost’s exhaustive analysis? Yep, that kind of cliffhanger is how we roll around here. Also, North Dakota and the permissibility of “funny business” in our email address.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAmanda Frost’s faculty profile and writing\nA helpful list of North Dakota landmarks\n2 Hidden Ways to Get More from Your Gmail Address\nThe Georgia Law Summer Program in China, where you can be misinformed by Christian in person and in China\nAmanda Frost, Inferiority Complex: Should State Courts Follow Lower Federal Court Precedent on the Meaning of Federal Law?\nOur trilogy of prior episodes on this issue: with Anthony Kreis, with Michael Dorf, and with Steve Vladeck\nThe series of blog posts coinciding with those episodes: from Michael Dorf here and here, Steve Vladeck, and Christian Turner\nMichael Dorf, Even More Thoughts on State Court (Non)Obligation to Follow Federal Appeals Court Precedents (Wherein I Respond to Professor Frost)\nAmanda Frost, The “Inferior” Federal Courts\nChief Justice Roy Moore’s Administrative Order\nEric Eckholm, Supreme Court Undercuts Alabama Chief Justice’s Argument to Delay Same-Sex Marriages\nLockhart v. Fretwell, in which Justice Thomas concurred and briefly argued that the “Supremacy Clause demands that state law yield to federal law, but neither federal supremacy nor any other principle of federal law requires that a state court's interpretation of federal law give way to a (lower) federal court's interpretation”\nCooper v. Aaron\nMartin v. Hunter’ Lessee\nAmanda Frost, Overvaluing Uniformity\nErie Railroad Co. v. Tompkins; see also our episode all about Erie\nAbout the adequate and independent state grounds doctrine\nJames Pfander, One Supreme Court: Supremacy, Inferiority, and the Judicial Power of the United States (see also this very brief book review)\nDice v. Akron, Canton and Youngstown Railroad Co.\nBush v. Gore (Rehnquist’s concurring opinion arguing that state courts may not interfere, even through state constitutional judgments, with certain legislatively enacted election laws that interact in advantageous ways with federal law)\nAbout Chevron deference\nAbbe Gluck, The States as Laboratories of Statutory Interpretation\nUnited States Telecom Association v. FCC\nPeter Strauss, One Hundred Fifty Cases Per Year: Some Implications of the Supreme Court's Limited Resources for Judicial Review of Agency Action\nSpecial Guest: Amanda Frost.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eLast year’s cert denials in various same-sex marriage cases led to renewed discussion concerning the counterintuitive (to Christian, at least) notion but conventional wisdom that state courts are not bound to follow lower federal courts’ interpretations of federal law. While we discussed and debated this last fall, Amanda Frost was putting the finishing touches on an article reviewing, challenging, and otherwise completely examining this curious doctrine. Was Michael Dorf’s Hammer Blow, as we named the episode with him, the final blow or might some of Christian’s naive doubts be rehabilitated by Prof. Frost’s exhaustive analysis? Yep, that kind of cliffhanger is how we roll around here. Also, North Dakota and the permissibility of “funny business” in our email address.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmanda Frost’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.wcl.american.edu/faculty/frost/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=392853\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eA helpful list of \u003ca href=\"http://traveltips.usatoday.com/landmarks-north-dakota-104299.html\"\u003eNorth Dakota landmarks\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/2-hidden-ways-to-get-more-from-your.html\"\u003e2 Hidden Ways to Get More from Your Gmail Address\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://law.uga.edu/china-summer-program\"\u003eThe Georgia Law Summer Program in China\u003c/a\u003e, where you can be misinformed by Christian in person and in China\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmanda Frost, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2564091\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInferiority Complex: Should State Courts Follow Lower Federal Court Precedent on the Meaning of Federal Law?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOur trilogy of prior episodes on this issue: \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/36\"\u003ewith Anthony Kreis\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/37\"\u003ewith Michael Dorf\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/38\"\u003ewith Steve Vladeck\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe series of blog posts coinciding with those episodes: from Michael Dorf \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/10/can-state-courts-gratuitously-give.html\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/11/why-danforth-v-minnesota-does-not.html\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2014/10/state-courts-choosing-to-follow-federal-precedents.html\"\u003eSteve Vladeck\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/10/29/bound-by-federal-law\"\u003eChristian Turner\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2015/02/even-more-thoughts-on-state-court.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEven More Thoughts on State Court (Non)Obligation to Follow Federal Appeals Court Precedents (Wherein I Respond to Professor Frost)\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmanda Frost, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2015/02/amanda-frost-on-chief-justice-moore-and-the-inferior-federal-courts.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe “Inferior” Federal Courts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChief Justice Roy Moore’s \u003ca href=\"http://sblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/CJ-Moore-legal-memo-2-8-14.pdf\"\u003eAdministrative Order\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEric Eckholm, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/10/us/supreme-court-undercuts-alabama-chief-justices-argument-to-delay-same-sex-marriages.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSupreme Court Undercuts Alabama Chief Justice’s Argument to Delay Same-Sex Marriages\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17182742191246774750\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLockhart v. Fretwell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, in which Justice Thomas concurred and briefly argued that the “Supremacy Clause demands that state law yield to federal law, but neither federal supremacy nor any other principle of federal law requires that a state court's interpretation of federal law give way to a (lower) federal court's interpretation”\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8453213781987973736\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCooper v. Aaron\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2949122041407056724\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMartin v. Hunter’ Lessee\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmanda Frost, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1104469\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOvervaluing Uniformity\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4671607337309792720\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eErie Railroad Co. v. Tompkins\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/28\"\u003eour episode all about \u003cem\u003eErie\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adequate_and_independent_state_ground\"\u003eadequate and independent state grounds doctrine\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Pfander, \u003ca href=\"http://books.google.com/books/about/One_Supreme_Court.html?id=8IFDAQAAIAAJ\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOne Supreme Court: Supremacy, Inferiority, and the Judicial Power of the United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see also this \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1629332\"\u003every brief book review\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15720855402243234649\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDice v. Akron, Canton and Youngstown Railroad Co.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2298973060085224552\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBush v. Gore\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Rehnquist’s concurring opinion arguing that state courts may not interfere, even through state constitutional judgments, with certain legislatively enacted election laws that interact in advantageous ways with federal law)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevron_U.S.A.,_Inc._v._Natural_Resources_Defense_Council,_Inc.\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChevron\u003c/em\u003e deference\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbbe Gluck, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1546550\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe States as Laboratories of Statutory Interpretation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4051648181469810668\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States Telecom Association v. FCC\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePeter Strauss, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1122586?sid=21105405344531\u0026amp;uid=3739256\u0026amp;uid=3739616\u0026amp;uid=2\u0026amp;uid=4\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOne Hundred Fifty Cases Per Year: Some Implications of the Supreme Court's Limited Resources for Judicial Review of Agency Action\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Amanda Frost.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On federal courts, with Amanda Frost.","date_published":"2015-02-20T12:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/40b707ae-370f-4ade-b152-b75618170276.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45251734,"duration_in_seconds":5506}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54d64f1de4b0810ff74e4559","title":"Episode 49: The Pot Calling the Kettle Beige","url":"https://oralargument.org/49","content_text":"From an undisclosed location, Joe phones in to talk Arsenal, cigarettes, IQ, marijuana, transcendence, IP law, the regulation of the internet, a look back at taxing eggs, getting rid of Groundhog Day, and nonsense (but I repeat myself).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nEpisode 7: Speed Trap\nFresh Air, Why Teens Are Impulsive, Addiction-Prone and Should Protect Their Brains (text from and a link to the audio of a Fresh Air interview with neurologist Frances Jensen)\nFlowers for Algernon and Lucy\nINS v. AP, Traffix Devices v. Marketing Displays, and Bonito Boats v. Thunder Craft Boats\nTom Wheeler (FCC Chairman), This Is How We Will Ensure Net Neutrality\nEpisode 10: My Beard Is Not a Common Carrier (guest Christina Mulligan)\nEpisode 16: The Whole Spectrum (guest Jim Speta)\nHayley Tsukayama, AOL Still Makes Most of Its Money Off Millions of Dial-Up Subscribers\nJoe Brodkin, Verizon Nears “the End” of FiOS Builds (Joe was right.)\nFCC, Chairman Wheeler Proposes New Rules for Protecting the Open Internet\nAbout municipal broadband\nEpisode 47: Making Lisa So Mad (featuring our discussion of the opinion in Perez v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue finding compensation for egg donations to be taxable)\nEpisode 33: Other Minds (guest Matthew Liebman)\nAbout Groundhog Day\nEyder Peralta, Groundhog in Wisconsin Bites Mayor’s Ear\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eFrom an undisclosed location, Joe phones in to talk Arsenal, cigarettes, IQ, marijuana, transcendence, IP law, the regulation of the internet, a look back at taxing eggs, getting rid of Groundhog Day, and nonsense (but I repeat myself).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/7\"\u003eEpisode 7: \u003cem\u003eSpeed Trap\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFresh Air, \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2015/01/28/381622350/why-teens-are-impulsive-addiction-prone-and-should-protect-their-brains\"\u003eWhy Teens Are Impulsive, Addiction-Prone and Should Protect Their Brains\u003c/a\u003e (text from and a link to the audio of a Fresh Air interview with neurologist Frances Jensen)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowers_for_Algernon\"\u003eFlowers for Algernon\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(2014_film)\"\u003eLucy\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16577297531712180725\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eINS v. AP\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12704680276957369308\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTraffix Devices v. Marketing Displays\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7598167634613863091\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBonito Boats v. Thunder Craft Boats\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTom Wheeler (FCC Chairman), \u003ca href=\"http://www.wired.com/2015/02/fcc-chairman-wheeler-net-neutrality/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThis Is How We Will Ensure Net Neutrality\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/10\"\u003eEpisode 10: \u003cem\u003eMy Beard Is Not a Common Carrier\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (guest Christina Mulligan)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/16\"\u003eEpisode 16: \u003cem\u003eThe Whole Spectrum\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (guest Jim Speta)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHayley Tsukayama, \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/08/07/aol-still-makes-most-of-its-money-off-millions-of-dial-up-subscribers/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAOL Still Makes Most of Its Money Off Millions of Dial-Up Subscribers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoe Brodkin, \u003ca href=\"http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/01/verizon-nears-the-end-of-fios-builds/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVerizon Nears “the End” of FiOS Builds\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Joe was right.)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFCC, \u003ca href=\"http://www.fcc.gov/document/chairman-wheeler-proposes-new-rules-protecting-open-internet\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChairman Wheeler Proposes New Rules for Protecting the Open Internet\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_broadband\"\u003emunicipal broadband\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/47\"\u003eEpisode 47: \u003cem\u003eMaking Lisa So Mad\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (featuring our discussion of the opinion in \u003ca href=\"http://www.ustaxcourt.gov/InOpHistoric/PerezDiv.Holmes.TC.WPD.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePerez v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e finding compensation for egg donations to be taxable)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/33\"\u003eEpisode 33: \u003cem\u003eOther Minds\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (guest Matthew Liebman)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day\"\u003eGroundhog Day\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEyder Peralta, \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/02/02/383348084/watch-groundhog-in-wisconsin-takes-a-bite-out-of-mayors-ear\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGroundhog in Wisconsin Bites Mayor’s Ear\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"From an undisclosed location.","date_published":"2015-02-07T13:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/8ee55570-f18d-4bc3-a93a-7d57b5e15d0b.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":35661851,"duration_in_seconds":4307}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54cbd7bfe4b063bf2a96f864","title":"Episode 48: Legal Truth","url":"https://oralargument.org/48","content_text":"With evidence and criminal procedure scholar Lisa Kern Griffin, we discuss the role of narrative, storytelling, and probability in assessing guilt and innocence. Also, feedback on coffee, citation, librarians, and argument.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nLisa Kern Griffin’s faculty profile and writing\nSonja West, First Amendment Neighbors, citing Joe Miller, Christian Turner, and Sonja West, Oral Argument 1: Send Joe to Prison at 46:53, available at http://oralargument.org/1\nBunny’s coffee-roasting links: the Nesco Professional 800-watt Roaster, Green Coffee Buying Club, and information from Sweet Maria’s; Listener Zachary’s links: the Fresh Roast Plus 8 and White Mountain Coffee\nAP, Police Urge Google to Turn Fff ‘Stalking’ Feature on Mobile App for Drivers and Waze\nVideo of Mike Tyson’s ten fastest knockouts\nVideo of Lindsey Graham asking AG-nominee Loretta Lynch about the legal connection between gay marriage and polygamy\nOral Argument 40: The Split Has Occurred, discussing Judge Sutton’s gay marriage opinion\nOral Argument 44: Serial\nOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\nLisa Kern Griffin, Narrative, Truth, and Trial\nAbout the murder of Julie Jensen\nJensen v. Schwochert (granting Jensen’s petition for a writ of habeas corpus on Confrontation Clause grounds); see also the denial of the state’s motion to alter the habeas judgment (note that this case is before the Seventh Circuit, which has had argument but not yet ruled)\nChristian Turner, Bet Your Life Before You Impose Death\nOld Chief v. United States\nMark Spottswood, Emotional Fact-finding\nSpecial Guest: Lisa Kern Griffin.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWith evidence and criminal procedure scholar Lisa Kern Griffin, we discuss the role of narrative, storytelling, and probability in assessing guilt and innocence. Also, feedback on coffee, citation, librarians, and argument.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Kern Griffin’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.duke.edu/fac/griffin/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=508221\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSonja West, \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.ua.edu/pubs/lrarticles/Volume%2066/Issue%202/West%20.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFirst Amendment Neighbors\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, citing Joe Miller, Christian Turner, and Sonja West, \u003cem\u003eOral Argument 1: Send Joe to Prison\u003c/em\u003e at 46:53, available at \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/1\"\u003ehttp://oralargument.org/1\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBunny’s coffee-roasting links: \u003ca href=\"http://www.burmancoffee.com/equipment/NescoPro.html\"\u003ethe Nesco Professional 800-watt Roaster\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/\"\u003eGreen Coffee Buying Club\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://www.sweetmarias.com/store/\"\u003einformation from Sweet Maria’s\u003c/a\u003e; Listener Zachary’s links: \u003ca href=\"http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.old.freshroast.php\"\u003ethe Fresh Roast Plus 8\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.whitemountaingourmetcoffee.com\"\u003eWhite Mountain Coffee\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAP, \u003ca href=\"http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/26/police-pressure-google-turn-off-waze-app-feature\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePolice Urge Google to Turn Fff ‘Stalking’ Feature on Mobile App for Drivers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://www.waze.com\"\u003eWaze\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z9mbQk58B0\"\u003eVideo\u003c/a\u003e of Mike Tyson’s ten fastest knockouts\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtLPzvCcSMU\"\u003eVideo\u003c/a\u003e of Lindsey Graham asking AG-nominee Loretta Lynch about the legal connection between gay marriage and polygamy\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/40\"\u003eOral Argument 40: The Split Has Occurred\u003c/a\u003e, discussing Judge Sutton’s gay marriage opinion\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/44\"\u003eOral Argument 44: Serial\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/45\"\u003eOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Kern Griffin, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2190099\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNarrative, Truth, and Trial\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Julie_Jensen\"\u003eAbout the murder of Julie Jensen\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1933207805179899187\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJensen v. Schwochert\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (granting Jensen’s petition for a writ of habeas corpus on Confrontation Clause grounds); see also \u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6538181499510170085\"\u003ethe denial of the state’s motion to alter the habeas judgment\u003c/a\u003e (note that this case is before the Seventh Circuit, which has had argument but not yet ruled)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/9/3/bet-your-life-before-you-impose-death\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBet Your Life Before You Impose Death\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2711105174348004240\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOld Chief v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Spottswood, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2448735\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEmotional Fact-finding\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Lisa Kern Griffin.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On ascertaining guilt and innocence, with Lisa Kern Griffin.","date_published":"2015-01-30T14:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/2f446f06-2d53-4f57-8491-ad30c6782620.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":41379344,"duration_in_seconds":5022}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54c2be5ae4b0a642bb3c1564","title":"Episode 47: Making Lisa So Mad","url":"https://oralargument.org/47","content_text":"We clear the docket while enjoying some listener-provided coffee. Topics include coffee roasting, listener feedback, the Oral Argument roadshow, and a recent decision on the taxation of egg donors.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nTwo Story Coffeehouse\nRene Stutzman, Lawsuits by Drivers Ticketed for Flashing Headlights Produce Change, No Money\nThe Madigan Memorial Hospital, Houlton, Maine (jpeg)\nOral Argument on Twitter and on Facebook\nOral Argument 45: Sacrifice, on which we discussed Nicholas Georgakopoulos’s email on reasonable doubt\nDerek Muller’s invitation to make a stop at Pepperdine Law on the Oral Argument road show, which stop is imagined in this photo: \nOral Argument 14: The Astronaut’s Hair (guest Lisa Milot) and Oral Argument 17: Flesh List (guest Kim Krawiec)\nPerez v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue\nLisa Milot, What Are We - Laborers, Factories, or Spare Parts? The Tax Treatment of Transfers of Human Body Materials\nTaxing Eggs, a mini-symposium on the Faculty Lounge blog\nMargaret Jane Radin, Property and Personhood\nKimberly Krawiec, Sunny Samaritans and Egomaniacs: Price-Fixing in the Gamete Market\nThe Georgia Law Summer Program in China, where you can be misinformed by Christian in person and in China\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe clear the docket while enjoying some listener-provided coffee. Topics include coffee roasting, listener feedback, the Oral Argument roadshow, and a recent decision on the taxation of egg donors.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.twostorycoffee.com\"\u003eTwo Story Coffeehouse\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRene Stutzman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-flashing-headlights-suit-fails-20150109-story.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLawsuits by Drivers Ticketed for Flashing Headlights Produce Change, No Money\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe Madigan Memorial Hospital, Houlton, Maine (\u003ca href=\"http://www.ohmreunion.com/postcards/madigan.jpg\"\u003ejpeg\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/oralargument\"\u003eOral Argument on Twitter\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/oralargument\"\u003eon Facebook\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/45\"\u003eOral Argument 45: Sacrifice\u003c/a\u003e, on which we discussed \u003ca href=\"http://mckinneylaw.iu.edu/faculty-staff/profile.cfm?Id=12\"\u003eNicholas Georgakopoulos’s\u003c/a\u003e email on reasonable doubt\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/derektmuller/status/556527663418859520\"\u003eDerek Muller’s invitation\u003c/a\u003e to make a stop at Pepperdine Law on the Oral Argument road show, which stop is imagined in this photo: \u003cimg src=\"http://specials-images.forbes.com/imageserve/0eyc3a96wsgTP/0x600.jpg\" alt=\"http://specials-images.forbes.com/imageserve/0eyc3a96wsgTP/0x600.jpg\" title=\"\"\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/14\"\u003eOral Argument 14: The Astronaut’s Hair (guest Lisa Milot)\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/17\"\u003eOral Argument 17: Flesh List (guest Kim Krawiec)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.ustaxcourt.gov/InOpHistoric/PerezDiv.Holmes.TC.WPD.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePerez v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Milot, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1480355\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Are We - Laborers, Factories, or Spare Parts? The Tax Treatment of Transfers of Human Body Materials\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2014/02/taxing-eggs-a-mini-symposium.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTaxing Eggs\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, a mini-symposium on the Faculty Lounge blog\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMargaret Jane Radin, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/1228541\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eProperty and Personhood\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1356012\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSunny Samaritans and Egomaniacs: Price-Fixing in the Gamete Market\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://law.uga.edu/china-summer-program\"\u003eThe Georgia Law Summer Program in China\u003c/a\u003e, where you can be misinformed by Christian in person and in China\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Clearing our ridiculous docket and on the taxation of egg donations.","date_published":"2015-01-23T16:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/e3a11722-70b5-4eac-b1fd-cbc2b2d69f13.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37117235,"duration_in_seconds":4489}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54b98788e4b0ac034b2187f7","title":"Episode 46: Noncompetes on Steroids","url":"https://oralargument.org/46","content_text":"Leave your company, take your ideas, and go to jail. Ok, maybe it’s not always that extreme, but we talk with Orly Lobel, author of Talent Wants to Be Free, about the laws that govern the minds and ideas of employees. From noncompete agreements, to trade secrets, to the illegal talent cartels of Silicon Valley, Orly helps us understand the field she calls “human capital law.” But we start, of course, with woodchippers, North Dakota, and seat recliners.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOrly Lobel’s faculty profile and writing\nThe Woodchipper in Fargo Exhibit (and on Facebook)\nThe Smoking Gun’s collection of performers’ backstage riders\nOrly Lobel, Talent Wants to Be Free, Orly’s new book on competition, secrecy, motivation, and creativity, examining companies lie Google, JetBlue, and Mattel (Amazon or IndieBound)\nOrly Lobel, The New Cognitive Property\nMattel v. MGA Entertainment, the Barbie vs. Bratz case\nPepsiCo v. Redmond\nAbout the Uniform Trade Secrets Act\nRonald Gilson, The Legal Infrastructure of High Technology Industrial Districts: Silicon Valley, Route 128, and Covenants Not to Compete\nAnnaLee Saxenian, The Origins and Dynamics of Production Networks in Silicon Valley\nAnnaLee Saxenian, Regional Advantage: Culture and Competition in Silicon Valley and Route 128\nAbout the “espionage case” of Sergey Aleynikov and Goldman Sachs\nNeil Irwin, When the Guy Making Your Sandwich Has a Noncompete Clause, about the Jimmy John’s noncompete clauses for its sandwich makers\nOrly Lobel and On Amir, Driving Performance: A Growth Theory of Noncompete Law\nDavid Streitfeld, Bigger Settlement Said to Be Reached in Silicon Valley Antitrust Case, in which Orly is quoted\nSpecial Guest: Orly Lobel.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eLeave your company, take your ideas, and go to jail. Ok, maybe it’s not always that extreme, but we talk with Orly Lobel, author of Talent Wants to Be Free, about the laws that govern the minds and ideas of employees. From noncompete agreements, to trade secrets, to the illegal talent cartels of Silicon Valley, Orly helps us understand the field she calls “human capital law.” But we start, of course, with woodchippers, North Dakota, and seat recliners.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrly Lobel’s \u003ca href=\"http://home.sandiego.edu/~lobel/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=337751#reg\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://fargomoorhead.org/things-details.html?id=650\"\u003eThe Woodchipper in Fargo Exhibit\u003c/a\u003e (and on \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/thewoodchipper\"\u003eFacebook\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe Smoking Gun’s collection of performers’ \u003ca href=\"http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstage\"\u003ebackstage riders\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrly Lobel, \u003cem\u003eTalent Wants to Be Free\u003c/em\u003e, Orly’s new book on competition, secrecy, motivation, and creativity, examining companies lie Google, JetBlue, and Mattel (\u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Talent-Wants-Be-Free-Should/dp/0300166273/ref=sr_1_1?s=books\u0026amp;ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1373461636\u0026amp;sr=1-1\"\u003eAmazon\u003c/a\u003e or \u003ca href=\"http://www.indiebound.org/book/9780300166279\"\u003eIndieBound\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrly Lobel, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2517604\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe New Cognitive Property\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11025248954066929583\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMattel v. MGA Entertainment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the Barbie vs. Bratz case\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7648187977021198226\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePepsiCo v. Redmond\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Trade_Secrets_Act\"\u003ethe Uniform Trade Secrets Act\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRonald Gilson, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=124508\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Legal Infrastructure of High Technology Industrial Districts: Silicon Valley, Route 128, and Covenants Not to Compete\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnnaLee Saxenian, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1512273\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Origins and Dynamics of Production Networks in Silicon Valley\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnnaLee Saxenian, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1496715\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRegional Advantage: Culture and Competition in Silicon Valley and Route 128\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the “espionage case” of \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Aleynikov\"\u003eSergey Aleynikov and Goldman Sachs\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNeil Irwin, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/upshot/when-the-guy-making-your-sandwich-has-a-noncompete-clause.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhen the Guy Making Your Sandwich Has a Noncompete Clause\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, about the Jimmy John’s noncompete clauses for its sandwich makers\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrly Lobel and On Amir, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2417357\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDriving Performance: A Growth Theory of Noncompete Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Streitfeld, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/15/technology/silicon-valley-antitrust-case-settlement-poaching-engineers.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBigger Settlement Said to Be Reached in Silicon Valley Antitrust Case\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, in which Orly is quoted\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Orly Lobel.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On human capital, with Orly Lobel.","date_published":"2015-01-16T17:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/5d57aeef-7e05-41e8-aad4-18522834ad95.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":42556498,"duration_in_seconds":5169}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54b451bce4b0cd212f8e14ae","title":"Episode 45: Sacrifice","url":"https://oralargument.org/45","content_text":"After beginning with, let’s face it, nonsense, we respond to listener feedback (beginning at 8:30) on, among other topics, speed traps, Serial, and Judge Edwards’ critique of legal scholarship. We wind up discussing reasonable doubt and probability (beginning at about 30:00).\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJudge John Hodgman\nEpisode 18: Oral Argument (with Tom Goldstein), featuring Josh Stein’s paper\nRichard Stallman’s info packet\nEpisode 44: Serial\nNatasha Vargas-Cooper, Jay, Key Witness from “Serial” Tells His Story for First Time, parts one, two, and three\nSlate’s Serial Spoiler Special podcast discussing the Jay interviews \nEzra Klein, Serial Revisited\nSusan Simpson’s The View from LL2 blog\nRene Stutzman, Lawsuits by Drivers Ticketed for Flashing Headlights Produce Change, No Money\nEpisode 43: Some Stuff I Like and Some Stuff I Don’t, featuring some speed trap discussion and our discussion of Judge Edwards’ critique of legal scholarship\nGross, O’Brien, Hu, and Kennedy, Rate of False Conviction of Criminal Defendants Who are Sentenced to Death\nChristian’s silly wrongful conviction calculator, which you can copy and paste into the wonderful Calca app\nAll about the Innocence Project\nKevin Drum, America’s Real Criminal Element: Lead\nDragonslayer, the 1981 film\nThe Flynn effect\nPhilosophy Bites: Hugh Mellor on Probability, a fascinating episode of a great series of brief discussions on philosophy\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAfter beginning with, let’s face it, nonsense, we respond to listener feedback (beginning at 8:30) on, among other topics, speed traps, Serial, and Judge Edwards’ critique of legal scholarship. We wind up discussing reasonable doubt and probability (beginning at about 30:00).\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.maximumfun.org/shows/judge-john-hodgman\"\u003eJudge John Hodgman\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/18\"\u003eEpisode 18: Oral Argument (with Tom Goldstein)\u003c/a\u003e, featuring \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2367476\"\u003eJosh Stein’s paper\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://groups.google.com/a/mysociety.org/forum/#!msg/mysociety-community/zkyZpOXjgoQ/_8xyXSxv9zYJ\"\u003eRichard Stallman’s info packet\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/44\"\u003eEpisode 44: Serial\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNatasha Vargas-Cooper, \u003cem\u003eJay, Key Witness from “Serial” Tells His Story for First Time\u003c/em\u003e, parts \u003ca href=\"https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/12/29/exclusive-interview-jay-wilds-star-witness-adnan-syed-serial-case-pt-1/\"\u003eone\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/12/30/exclusive-jay-part-2/\"\u003etwo\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/12/31/jay-speaks-part-3/\"\u003ethree\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSlate’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/01/02/jay_from_the_serial_podcast_interviews_discussed_do_we_think_differently.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSerial Spoiler Special\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e podcast discussing the Jay interviews \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEzra Klein, \u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/2014/12/31/7472965/jays-interview-adnan-serial\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSerial Revisited\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSusan Simpson’s \u003ca href=\"http://viewfromll2.com\"\u003eThe View from LL2 blog\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRene Stutzman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-flashing-headlights-suit-fails-20150109-story.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLawsuits by Drivers Ticketed for Flashing Headlights Produce Change, No Money\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/43\"\u003eEpisode 43: Some Stuff I Like and Some Stuff I Don’t\u003c/a\u003e, featuring some speed trap discussion and our discussion of Judge Edwards’ critique of legal scholarship\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGross, O’Brien, Hu, and Kennedy, \u003ca href=\"http://www.pnas.org/content/111/20/7230.abstract\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRate of False Conviction of Criminal Defendants Who are Sentenced to Death\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/innocence-calculator\"\u003esilly wrongful conviction calculator\u003c/a\u003e, which you can copy and paste into the wonderful \u003ca href=\"http://calca.io\"\u003eCalca app\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAll about \u003ca href=\"http://www.innocenceproject.org\"\u003ethe Innocence Project\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKevin Drum, \u003ca href=\"http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-link-gasoline\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmerica’s Real Criminal Element: Lead\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonslayer\"\u003eDragonslayer\u003c/a\u003e, the 1981 film\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect\"\u003eThe Flynn effect\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://philosophybites.com/2014/12/hugh-mellor-on-probability.html\"\u003ePhilosophy Bites: \u003cem\u003eHugh Mellor on Probability\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, a fascinating episode of a great series of brief discussions on philosophy\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"On nonsense, feedback, probability, and reasonable doubt.","date_published":"2015-01-12T18:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/7eb54fff-b7db-4ac0-b878-a36665af2d9c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45694554,"duration_in_seconds":5561}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54997db2e4b0b3481630d78b","title":"Episode 44: Serial","url":"https://oralargument.org/44","content_text":"The Serial podcast, about the 1999 murder of Hae Min Lee and subsequent conviction of Adnan Syed, has become the most popular podcast ever. In our first anniversary show — which, sure, we could have broken into two parts but consider this super-sized show our gift to you for the holidays — we talk with listeners and past guests about their own reactions to the show and to the case. We discuss reasonable doubt, race, procedure, evidence, voyeurism, what we think, what others think, and the inherent (but vastly improvable) tragedy of criminal justice. Guests: Hunt Wofford, Nathan, Anthony Kreis, Jasmine Guillory, Mehrsa Baradaran, and Dahlia Lithwick. (Several of our guests responded to a call to listeners that we posted on our Facebook and Twitter feeds. Follow us to be in on such things in the future.)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSerial, the most popular podcast ever\nWilla Paskin, Totally Obsessed\nChristian Turner, Bet Your Life Before You Impose Death\nAbout Hunt Wofford\nMythbusters\nLinks to some Serial parodies\nMurder on a Sunday Morning\nAbout procedural justice\nAbout Anthony Kreis and his last appearance on our show\nDebra Cassens Weiss, Posner Questions Basis for ‘Archaic’ Hearsay Rule\nThe Scottish “not proven” verdict\nAbout Mehrsa Baradaran and her first and second appearances on our show\nSusan Simpson, Serial: Why the Nisha Call Shows that Hae Was Murdered at 3:32 p.m.\nAbout Dahlia Lithwick and her appearance on the show\nDahlia’s new podcast, Amicus, and her video interviews on SCOTUSblog\nDahlia Lithwick, A Horrifying Miscarriage of Justice in North Carolina\nJustice Scalia’s concurrence in Callins v. Collins (criticizing Justice Blackmun for not using the McCollum case, with its brutal facts, for dissenting from the imposition of the death penalty)\nJustice Blackmun’s subsequent dissent in McCollum v. North Carolina, addressing Scalia’s concurrence\nBrandon Garrett’s page, featuring his recent books\nSpecial Guests: Anthony Kreis, Dahlia Lithwick, and Mehrsa Baradaran.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThe Serial podcast, about the 1999 murder of Hae Min Lee and subsequent conviction of Adnan Syed, has become the most popular podcast ever. In our first anniversary show — which, sure, we could have broken into two parts but consider this super-sized show our gift to you for the holidays — we talk with listeners and past guests about their own reactions to the show and to the case. We discuss reasonable doubt, race, procedure, evidence, voyeurism, what we think, what others think, and the inherent (but vastly improvable) tragedy of criminal justice. Guests: Hunt Wofford, Nathan, Anthony Kreis, Jasmine Guillory, Mehrsa Baradaran, and Dahlia Lithwick. (Several of our guests responded to a call to listeners that we posted on our Facebook and Twitter feeds. Follow us to be in on such things in the future.)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://serialpodcast.org\"\u003eSerial\u003c/a\u003e, the most popular podcast ever\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilla Paskin, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/11/totally_obsessed_the_age_of_cultural_manias_from_true_detective_to_serial.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTotally Obsessed\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/9/3/bet-your-life-before-you-impose-death\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBet Your Life Before You Impose Death\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://www.dmpm.com/attorneys-charlotte-nc/j-huntington-wofford/\"\u003eHunt Wofford\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters\"\u003eMythbusters\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLinks to \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_(podcast)#Parodies\"\u003esome Serial parodies\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_on_a_Sunday_Morning\"\u003eMurder on a Sunday Morning\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedural_justice\"\u003eprocedural justice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://spia.uga.edu/directory/students/kreis-anthony-michael\"\u003eAnthony Kreis\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/36\"\u003ehis last appearance\u003c/a\u003e on our show\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDebra Cassens Weiss, \u003ca href=\"http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/posner_questions_basis_for_archaic_hearsay_rule_proposes_flexible_approach/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePosner Questions Basis for ‘Archaic’ Hearsay Rule\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_proven\"\u003eThe Scottish “not proven” verdict\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/mehrsa-baradaran\"\u003eMehrsa Baradaran\u003c/a\u003e and her \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/9\"\u003efirst\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/29\"\u003esecond\u003c/a\u003e appearances on our show\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSusan Simpson, \u003ca href=\"http://viewfromll2.com/2014/12/13/serial-why-the-nisha-call-shows-that-hae-was-murdered-at-332-p-m/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSerial: Why the Nisha Call Shows that Hae Was Murdered at 3:32 p.m.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/authors.dahlia_lithwick.html\"\u003eDahlia Lithwick\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/22\"\u003eher appearance\u003c/a\u003e on the show\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia’s new podcast, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/amicus.html\"\u003eAmicus\u003c/a\u003e, and her \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/media/scotusblog-on-camera-dahlia-lithwick-part-one/\"\u003evideo interviews\u003c/a\u003e on SCOTUSblog\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/09/henry_lee_mccollum_cleared_by_dna_evidence_in_north_carolina_after_spending.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Horrifying Miscarriage of Justice in North Carolina\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/93-7054.ZA.html\"\u003eJustice Scalia’s concurrence\u003c/a\u003e in \u003cem\u003eCallins v. Collins\u003c/em\u003e (criticizing Justice Blackmun for not using the \u003cem\u003eMcCollum\u003c/em\u003e case, with its brutal facts, for \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/93-7054.ZA1.html\"\u003edissenting from the imposition of the death penalty\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/93-7200.ZA.html\"\u003eJustice Blackmun’s subsequent dissent in \u003cem\u003eMcCollum v. North Carolina\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, addressing Scalia’s concurrence\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.brandonlgarrett.com\"\u003eBrandon Garrett’s page\u003c/a\u003e, featuring his recent books\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guests: Anthony Kreis, Dahlia Lithwick, and Mehrsa Baradaran.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"We call multiple listeners and past guests to discuss the Serial podcast.","date_published":"2014-12-23T09:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/257e973f-5349-4e16-b4af-ee22df758790.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":71878679,"duration_in_seconds":8834}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:548fa865e4b010469cd809e6","title":"Episode 43: Some Stuff I Like and Some Stuff I Don’t","url":"https://oralargument.org/43","content_text":"We’re back. Speed traps, the police, and Judge Edwards’ renewed attack on modern legal scholarship.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nComplaint in Jarman v. City of Grain Valley\nElli v. City of Ellisville\nOral Argument 7: Speed Trap and Oral Argument 8: Party All over the World\nCity of Warrensville Hts. v. Wason (the speed trap case in which the dissent cites Kant’s categorical imperative and which we mentioned at the end of episode 9)\nAbout “contempt of cop”\nRaizel Liebler and Keidra Chaney, TLF Recommended Podcasts by and for Best Friends (recommending us (thanks!) alongside Denzel Washington Is the Greatest Actor of All Time, Period.)\nMichael Dorf, Judge Harry Edwards Is Still Unimpressed With Legal Scholarship\nHarry Edwards, Another Look at Professor Rodell’s Goodbye to Law Reviews\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe’re back. Speed traps, the police, and Judge Edwards’ renewed attack on modern legal scholarship.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.aclu-mo.org/files/9714/1763/1175/Jarman_Complaint_12-3-14.pdf\"\u003eComplaint in \u003cem\u003eJarman v. City of Grain Valley\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12377659772011631501\u0026amp;scilh=0\"\u003eElli v. City of Ellisville\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/7\"\u003eOral Argument 7: Speed Trap\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/8\"\u003eOral Argument 8: Party All over the World\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=469408788857827534\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCity of Warrensville Hts. v. Wason\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the speed trap case in which the dissent cites Kant’s categorical imperative and which we mentioned at the end of episode 9)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_cop\"\u003eAbout “contempt of cop”\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRaizel Liebler and Keidra Chaney, \u003ca href=\"http://thelearnedfangirl.com/2014/12/12/tlf-recommended-podcasts-by-and-for-best-friends/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTLF Recommended Podcasts by and for Best Friends\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (recommending us (thanks!) alongside \u003ca href=\"http://denzelwashington.wolfpop.com/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDenzel Washington Is the Greatest Actor of All Time, Period.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/12/judge-harry-edwards-is-still.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJudge Harry Edwards Is Still Unimpressed With Legal Scholarship\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHarry Edwards, \u003ca href=\"http://www.virginialawreview.org/sites/virginialawreview.org/files/Edwards_Book.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAnother Look at Professor Rodell’s\u003c/em\u003e Goodbye to Law Reviews\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Legal scholarship doesn't suck.","date_published":"2014-12-15T22:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/123f4a76-08a6-480f-b03d-4cad2049c317.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40754704,"duration_in_seconds":4944}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:546e8edfe4b0c7eaab88caad","title":"Episode 42: Shotgun Aphasia","url":"https://oralargument.org/42","content_text":"When should the police be able to search your phone, your computer, your email, or your dropbox? Orin Kerr thinks that over time, and in the face of changing technology and social practices, courts maintain a relatively consistent balance between privacy and the state’s interest in criminal investigation. The legal changes that maintain that consistency seem to be acceptable to originalists, pragmatists, and living constitutionalists alike. From cell phones to horses and buggies to automobiles and confidential informants. It’s the search episode. And then … yep, speed traps. Joe and Orin make a spiritual connection as non-warners.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOrin Kerr’s faculty profile, writing, and blogging at the Volokh Conspiracy\nBackground on the Fourth Amendment and the exceptions to the warrant requirement\nOrin Kerr, An Equilibrium-Adjustment Theory of the Fourth Amendment\nCarroll v. United States and the automobile exception\nEx Parte Jackson (one of the earliest Fourth Amendment decisions)\nRiley v. California (and see Orin’s post about the case shortly after it was decided\nExample undercover informant cases: On Lee v. United States and Lewis v. United States\nKeynote by Judge Richard Posner at the Empirical Legal Studies Conference\nJacqueline Ross, Tradeoffs in Undercover Investigations: A Comparative Perspective\nJohn Mikhail on Universal Moral Grammar, on the excellent philosophy bites podcast\nOrin Kerr, The Curious History of Fourth Amendment Searches\nOrin Kerr, Foreword: Accounting for Technological Change\nUnited States v. Robinson\nPaul Giannelli, Independent Crime Laboratories: The Problem of Motivational and Cognitive Bias\nUnited States v. Ganias\nOur first speed trap shows: Speed Trap and Party All Over the World\nSpecial Guest: Orin Kerr.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhen should the police be able to search your phone, your computer, your email, or your dropbox? Orin Kerr thinks that over time, and in the face of changing technology and social practices, courts maintain a relatively consistent balance between privacy and the state’s interest in criminal investigation. The legal changes that maintain that consistency seem to be acceptable to originalists, pragmatists, and living constitutionalists alike. From cell phones to horses and buggies to automobiles and confidential informants. It’s the search episode. And then … yep, speed traps. Joe and Orin make a spiritual connection as non-warners.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrin Kerr’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.gwu.edu/Faculty/profile.aspx?id=3568\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=328150\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/\"\u003eblogging\u003c/a\u003e at the Volokh Conspiracy\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBackground on \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution\"\u003ethe Fourth Amendment\u003c/a\u003e and the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Exceptions_to_the_warrant_requirement\"\u003eexceptions to the warrant requirement\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrin Kerr, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1748222\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAn Equilibrium-Adjustment Theory of the Fourth Amendment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16659390033135638076\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCarroll v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_exception\"\u003eautomobile exception\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8186580686125765882\"\u003eEx Parte \u003cem\u003eJackson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (one of the earliest Fourth Amendment decisions)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9647156672357738355\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRiley v. California\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and see \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/06/25/the-significance-of-riley/\"\u003eOrin’s post about the case\u003c/a\u003e shortly after it was decided\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eExample undercover informant cases: \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=33428059768918700\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOn Lee v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4003108025057782817\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLewis v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://soundcloud.com/uchicagolaw/richard-posner-empirical-legal-studies-conference-keynote\"\u003eKeynote by Judge Richard Posner\u003c/a\u003e at the Empirical Legal Studies Conference\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJacqueline Ross, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=334763\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTradeoffs in Undercover Investigations: A Comparative Perspective\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://philosophybites.com/2011/06/john-mikhail-on-universal-moral-grammar.html\"\u003eJohn Mikhail on Universal Moral Grammar\u003c/a\u003e, on the excellent \u003ca href=\"http://philosophybites.com\"\u003ephilosophy bites\u003c/a\u003e podcast\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrin Kerr, \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/abstract=2154611\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Curious History of Fourth Amendment Searches\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOrin Kerr, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2234319\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eForeword: Accounting for Technological Change\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5387812968771120977\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Robinson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Giannelli, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1568915\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIndependent Crime Laboratories: The Problem of Motivational and Cognitive Bias\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16926744034394821172\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Ganias\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOur first speed trap shows: \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/7\"\u003eSpeed Trap\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/8\"\u003eParty All Over the World\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Orin Kerr.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Digital searches, with Orin Kerr.","date_published":"2014-11-20T20:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/ebcf6fe6-daff-403f-baae-f526adea8b4e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":46120836,"duration_in_seconds":5614}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:546789abe4b07084eb8c5be0","title":"Episode 41: Sense-Think-Act","url":"https://oralargument.org/41","content_text":"Robots. What are they? Just a new sort of tool, qualitatively different kinds of tools that do things we neither expect nor intend, new kinds of beings? With the incipient explosion of complex robots, we may need to re-examine the way law uses and understands intention, responsibility, causation, and other basic concepts. We’re joined by Ryan Calo, who has achieved the outrageously awesome feat of earning a living thinking about robots. (It’s pronounced Kay-low. So Joe got this one right.) We discuss flying drones, chess computers, driverless cars, antilock brakes, and computer-conceived barbecue sauce.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nRyan Calo’s faculty profile and writing\nFollow-up from listener David on Episode 40: The Split Has Occurred, Shelley v. Kraemer, and Buchanan v. Warley\nLego Mindstorms\nRyan Calo, Robots and Privacy\nFIRST Lego League robotics competition for ages nine to fourteen\nDJI Phantom Vision 2+ flying drone camera thing capable of making like this one and this one\nMark Berman, National Park Service Bans Drone Use in All National Parks and Chris Vanderveen, Man Banned from Yellowstone after Drone Crash\nFAA’s Key Initiatives page on drones\nJoan Lowy, Drone Sightings Up Dramatically\nRyan Calo, Robotics and the Lessons of Cyberlaw (including a discussion of the concepts of embodiment, emergence, and social meaning as the core of the legal challenge posed by robotics)\nStephen Johnson, Emergence: The Connected Lives of Ants, Brains, Cities, and Software\nRadiolab, Emergence\nFrank Easterbrook, Cyberspace and the Law of the Horse\nCory Doctorow, Why It Is Not Possible to Regulate Robots\nNeil Richards and William Smart, How Should the Law Think About Robotics?\nRyan Calo, A Horse of a Different Color: What Robotics Law Can Learn from Cyberlaw\nAbout IBM’s Watson and Deep Blue (the chess machine)\nDaniel Suarez, Daemon\nRichard Fisher, Is It OK to Torture or Murder a Robot?\nRadiolab, Furbidden Knowledge\nNicholas Bakalar, Robotic Surgery Report Card\nStuddert, Mello, and Brennan, Medical Malpractice\nRyan Calo, The Case for a Federal Robotics Commission\nExcerpt from In re Polemis, the case we forgot the name of\nAbout Amazon’s Kiva Systems, the subsidiary that supplies Amazon with robotic warehouse workers\nRochelle Bilow, We Put a Computer in Charge of Our Test Kitchen for a Day, and Here’s What Happened, and Mark Wilson, I Tasted BBQ Sauce Made By IBM’s Watson, And Loved It\nE.M. Forster, The Machine Stops\nAbout the Future Tense event, Can We Imagine Our Way to a Better Future?, including descriptions and video, in which Ryan participated\nAbout cognitive radio\nDaria Roithmayr, Complexity Law and Economics\nWe Robot 2015, meeting April 10-11, 2015 in Seattle\nSpecial Guest: Ryan Calo.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eRobots. What are they? Just a new sort of tool, qualitatively different kinds of tools that do things we neither expect nor intend, new kinds of beings? With the incipient explosion of complex robots, we may need to re-examine the way law uses and understands intention, responsibility, causation, and other basic concepts. We’re joined by Ryan Calo, who has achieved the outrageously awesome feat of earning a living thinking about robots. (It’s pronounced Kay-low. So Joe got this one right.) We discuss flying drones, chess computers, driverless cars, antilock brakes, and computer-conceived barbecue sauce.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRyan Calo’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.washington.edu/directory/Profile.aspx?ID=713\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1042410\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFollow-up from listener David on \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/40\"\u003eEpisode 40: The Split Has Occurred\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12732018998507979172\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShelley v. Kraemer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17109776118808449915\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBuchanan v. Warley\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.lego.com/en-us/mindstorms/\"\u003eLego Mindstorms\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRyan Calo, \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/abstract=1599189\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRobots and Privacy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.firstlegoleague.org\"\u003eFIRST Lego League\u003c/a\u003e robotics competition for ages nine to fourteen\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.dji.com/product/phantom-2-vision-plus\"\u003eDJI Phantom Vision 2+\u003c/a\u003e flying drone camera thing capable of making like \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEooGAF3vwg\"\u003ethis one\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e84GvjVcAxY\"\u003ethis one\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Berman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/06/20/national-park-service-bans-drone-use-in-all-national-parks/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNational Park Service Bans Drone Use in All National Parks\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and Chris Vanderveen, \u003ca href=\"http://www.9news.com/story/news/investigations/2014/09/22/drone-crash-yellowstone/16066805/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMan Banned from Yellowstone after Drone Crash\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFAA’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.faa.gov/uas/legislative_programs/section_333/\"\u003eKey Initiatives page on drones\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoan Lowy, \u003ca href=\"http://bigstory.ap.org/article/99d03e9f1adb46519f39e5b2b6655dfc/ap-exclusive-drone-sightings-dramatically\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDrone Sightings Up Dramatically\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRyan Calo, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2402972\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRobotics and the Lessons of Cyberlaw\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (including a discussion of the concepts of embodiment, emergence, and social meaning as the core of the legal challenge posed by robotics)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Johnson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Emergence-Connected-Brains-Cities-Software/dp/0684868768\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEmergence: The Connected Lives of Ants, Brains, Cities, and Software\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRadiolab, \u003ca href=\"http://www.radiolab.org/story/91500-emergence/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEmergence\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Easterbrook, \u003ca href=\"http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2147\u0026amp;context=journal_articles\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCyberspace and the Law of the Horse\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCory Doctorow, \u003ca href=\"http://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2014/apr/02/why-it-is-not-possible-to-regulate-robots\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy It Is Not Possible to Regulate Robots\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNeil Richards and William Smart, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2263363\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow Should the Law Think About Robotics?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRyan Calo, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/10/robotics_law_should_take_cues_from_cyberlaw.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Horse of a Different Color: What Robotics Law Can Learn from Cyberlaw\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watson_(computer)\"\u003eIBM’s Watson\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_(chess_computer)\"\u003eDeep Blue\u003c/a\u003e (the chess machine)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Suarez, \u003ca href=\"http://thedaemon.com/daemonpreview.html\"\u003eDaemon\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Fisher, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20131127-would-you-murder-a-robot\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs It OK to Torture or Murder a Robot?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRadiolab, \u003ca href=\"http://www.radiolab.org/story/137469-furbidden-knowledge/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFurbidden Knowledge\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNicholas Bakalar, \u003ca href=\"http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/robotic-surgery-report-card/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRobotic Surgery Report Card\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStuddert, Mello, and Brennan, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/487/2012/10/HPR_final.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMedical Malpractice\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRyan Calo, \u003ca href=\"http://www.brookings.edu/research/reports2/2014/09/case-for-federal-robotics-commission\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Case for a Federal Robotics Commission\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://h2o.law.harvard.edu/collages/733\"\u003eExcerpt from In re Polemis\u003c/a\u003e, the case we forgot the name of\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout Amazon’s \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiva_Systems\"\u003eKiva Systems\u003c/a\u003e, the subsidiary that supplies Amazon with robotic warehouse workers\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRochelle Bilow, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bonappetit.com/test-kitchen/inside-our-kitchen/article/chef-watson-in-the-ba-test-kitchen\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWe Put a Computer in Charge of Our Test Kitchen for a Day, and Here’s What Happened\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, and Mark Wilson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.fastcodesign.com/3027687/i-tasted-bbq-sauce-made-by-ibms-watson-and-loved-it\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eI Tasted BBQ Sauce Made By IBM’s Watson, And Loved It\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eE.M. Forster, \u003ca href=\"http://archive.ncsa.illinois.edu/prajlich/forster.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Machine Stops\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the Future Tense event, \u003ca href=\"http://newamerica.org/future-tense/can-we-imagine-our-way-to-a-better-future/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCan We Imagine Our Way to a Better Future?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, including descriptions and video, in which Ryan participated\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_radio\"\u003ecognitive radio\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaria Roithmayr, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dariaroithmayr.com/pdfs/complexity-law-and-economics.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eComplexity Law and Economics\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.werobot2015.org\"\u003eWe Robot 2015\u003c/a\u003e, meeting April 10-11, 2015 in Seattle\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Ryan Calo.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The one about robots, with Ryan Calo.","date_published":"2014-11-15T12:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/704d5e52-9345-4109-a28e-772e0cd1e978.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48818577,"duration_in_seconds":5952}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:545e8079e4b03a44d115bab3","title":"Episode 40: The Split Has Occurred","url":"https://oralargument.org/40","content_text":"This is the week the circuits split. We discuss Judge Sutton’s opinion for a panel of the Sixth Circuit upholding bans on gay marriage in several states. Although Joe and Christian mainly agree about this case, Joe finds plenty of other things Christian says and does to be irritating, especially during our first eighteen minutes when we discuss feedback.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMichael Dorf, Why Danforth v. Minnesota Does Not Undermine My View About State Court Decisions to Follow Lower Federal Court Precedent\nOur episode with Peabody award winner, Tom Goldstein\nAbout typefaces (and the difference between typefaces and fonts)\nAbout King v. Burwell, the case the Supreme Court has taken up challenging subsidies on federally run exchanges; see also Christian’s take and Abbe Gluck’s\nThe Unrecorded Podcast\nMichelle Meyer, Will the Real Evidence-Based Ebola Policy Please Stand Up? Seven Takeaways from Maine DHHS v. Hickox (which Christian wrongly attributed to Hank Greely, who has also written on Ebola, but is in fact from fantastic friend of the show Michelle Meyer - sorry Michelle), further to our last episode on the domestic side of the Ebola\nDeBoer v. Hodges, the Sixth Circuit decision by Judge Sutton upholding various state marriage bans\nOral Argument 36: Firehose of Inequality (guest Anthony Kreis)\nBaskin v. Bogan, Judge Posner’s decision striking down state marriage bans and Christian’s post about the Seventh Circuit’s oral arguments in that case\nAbout Baker v. Nelson\nHicks v. Miranda\nLoving v. Virginia\nPlessy v. Ferguson\nRomer v. Evans\nBalkinization Symposium on Unconstitutional Animus (We’d apologize for the error of attributing this to SCOTUSblog, but we don’t have time to apologize for all of our errors.)\nWilliam Eskridge, Jr. A History fo Same Sex Marriage\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThis is the week the circuits split. We discuss Judge Sutton’s opinion for a panel of the Sixth Circuit upholding bans on gay marriage in several states. Although Joe and Christian mainly agree about this case, Joe finds plenty of other things Christian says and does to be irritating, especially during our first eighteen minutes when we discuss feedback.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/11/why-danforth-v-minnesota-does-not.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy\u003c/em\u003e Danforth v. Minnesota \u003cem\u003eDoes Not Undermine My View About State Court Decisions to Follow Lower Federal Court Precedent\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOur \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/18\"\u003eepisode with Peabody award winner, Tom Goldstein\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typeface\"\u003eAbout typefaces\u003c/a\u003e (and the difference between typefaces and fonts)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/king-v-burwell/\"\u003eAbout \u003cem\u003eKing v. Burwell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the case the Supreme Court has taken up challenging subsidies on federally run exchanges; see also \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/11/7/the-latest-obamacare-challenge\"\u003eChristian’s take\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/11/symposium-the-grant-in-king-obamacare-subsidies-as-textualisms-big-test/\"\u003eAbbe Gluck’s\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://tinyletter.com/unrecordedpodcast/archive\"\u003eThe Unrecorded Podcast\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichelle Meyer, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2014/11/will-the-real-evidence-based-ebola-policy-please-stand-up-seven-take-aways-from-maine-dhhs-v-hickox.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWill the Real Evidence-Based Ebola Policy Please Stand Up? Seven Takeaways from\u003c/em\u003e Maine DHHS v. Hickox\u003c/a\u003e (which Christian wrongly attributed to Hank Greely, who has also written on Ebola, but is in fact from fantastic friend of the show Michelle Meyer - sorry Michelle), further to our \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/39\"\u003elast episode on the domestic side of the Ebola\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/14a0275p-06.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDeBoer v. Hodges\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the Sixth Circuit decision by Judge Sutton upholding various state marriage bans\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/36\"\u003eOral Argument 36: Firehose of Inequality (guest Anthony Kreis)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17115587439154811848\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBaskin v. Bogan\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, Judge Posner’s decision striking down state marriage bans and \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/8/28/404-argument-not-found\"\u003eChristian’s post\u003c/a\u003e about the Seventh Circuit’s oral arguments in that case\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_v._Nelson\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBaker v. Nelson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13713569461645305315#p344\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHicks v. Miranda\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5103666188878568597\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLoving v. Virginia\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16038751515555215717\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlessy v. Ferguson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17758055891258118781\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRomer v. Evans\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://balkin.blogspot.com/2014/10/balkinization-symposium-on.html\"\u003eBalkinization Symposium on Unconstitutional Animus\u003c/a\u003e (We’d apologize for the error of attributing this to SCOTUSblog, but we don’t have time to apologize for all of our errors.)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWilliam Eskridge, Jr. \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/fss_papers/1504/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA History fo Same Sex Marriage\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The one about the gay marriage circuit split.","date_published":"2014-11-08T15:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/3d5146f9-9d24-4965-87ad-f07d6b1e52f5.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":51134721,"duration_in_seconds":6241}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5453a281e4b0efaf8e01c29c","title":"Episode 39: The Ayn Rand Nightmare","url":"https://oralargument.org/39","content_text":"It’s our ebola episode. You know, I think that’s description enough.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nFazal Khan’s profile and his writing\nOur U.S. News rankings episode, Heart of Darkness\nMore on the debate about state courts’ following federal circuit courts (relevant to the gay marriage rulings) that arose during our episodes with Michael Dorf and with Steve Vladeck: (1) a post by Michael Dorf, (2) a post by Steve Vladeck, and (3) a post by Christian Turner\nAbout Ebola virus diseased and about Ebola in the United States\nThe CDC’s information page on Ebola transmission and Review of Human-to-Human Transmission of Ebola Virus\nMichael Dorf, Is There Any Risk of Ebola Transmission from an Asymptomatic Person?\nEM Leroy et al., Human Asymptomatic Ebola Infection and Strong Inflammatory Response\nGostin, Hodge, and Burris, Is the United States Prepared for Ebola\nTavernise, Shear, and Cooper (for the NY Times), Seeking Unity, U.S. Revises Ebola Monitoring Rules\nLaura Donohue, Biodefense and Constitutional Constraints (an excellent history of US and UK quarantine law)\nJosh Hicks, A Brief History of Quarantines in the United States (a very short timeline in the Washington Post) and Peter Tyson, A Short History of Quarantine (a more detailed and global timeline)\nJacobson v. Massachusetts; see also James Colgrove and Ronald Bayer, Manifold Restraints: Liberty, Public Health, and the Legacy of Jacobson v Massachusetts\nTara Ragone, State Quarantines: Balancing Public Health with Liberty Interests (a very helpful blog post discussing issues and authorities relevant to the Kaci Hickox case)\nJared Cole (for the Congressional Research Service), Federal and State Quarantine and Isolation Authority\nGostin, Burris, and Lazzarini, The Law and the Public's Health: A Study of Infectious Disease Law in the United States\nAbout Philadelphia’s Yellow Fever epidemic of 1793\nThe text of the Public Health Service Act (containing the authority for federal quarantine and isolation)\nJew Ho v. Williamson\nNorimitsu Onishi (for the NY Times), Quarantine for Ebola Lifted in Liberia Slum\nMichael Dorf, Containing Ebola: Quarantine and the Constitution\nArjun Jaikumar, Red Flags in Quarantine: The Questionable Constitutionality of Federal Quarantine After NFIB v. Sebelius\nMark Rothstein, From SARS to Ebola: Legal and Ethical Considerations for Modern Quarantine\nMorgan’s Steamship Co. v. Louisiana Board of Health (upholding the constitutionality of state quarantine)\nCDC, Interim U.S. Guidance for Monitoring and Movement of Persons with Potential Ebola Virus Exposure\nSee section 604 of the The Model State Emergency Health Powers Act\nFazal Khan, Ensuring Government Accountability During Public Health Emergencies\nCity of Newark v. J.S. (analyzing the Due Process and statutory rights of a “non-compliant,” TB-infected, homeless man)\nGreene v. Edwards (awarding a state writ of habeas corpus in a TB isolation case)\nAbout the 2007 tuberculosis scare caused by the travel of Andrew Speaker \nFidler, Gostin, and Markel, Through the Quarantine Looking Glass: Drug-Resistant Tuberculosis and Public Health Governance, Law, and Ethics (also discussing the Andrew Speaker incident)\nCompagnie Francaise de Navigation a Vapeur v. Louisiana State Board of Health\nWendy Parmet, AIDS and Quarantine: The Revival of an Archaic Doctrine (interesting, among other reasons, for the fact it was written in 1985 in the midst of the relative early days of the AIDS crisis)\nCity of New York v. New Saint Mark’s Baths\nRandy Shilts, And the Band Played On\nAbout the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act of 2007, the Posse Comitatus Act, and the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Reauthorization Act of 2013\nMathews v. Eldridge (and, yes, there are only three factors)\nDaniel Markovits, Quarantines and Distributive Justice \nHelene Cooper and Michael Shear, Joint Chiefs Chairman Urges 21-Day Quarantine for Troops Working in Ebola Zone\nSpecial Guest: Fazal Khan.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIt’s our ebola episode. You know, I think that’s description enough.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFazal Khan’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/fazal-khan\"\u003eprofile\u003c/a\u003e and his \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=628470\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/12\"\u003eOur U.S. News rankings episode, \u003cem\u003eHeart of Darkness\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMore on the debate about state courts’ following federal circuit courts (relevant to the gay marriage rulings) that arose during our episodes \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/37\"\u003ewith Michael Dorf\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/38\"\u003ewith Steve Vladeck\u003c/a\u003e: (1) a \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/10/can-state-courts-gratuitously-give.html\"\u003epost by Michael Dorf\u003c/a\u003e, (2) a \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2014/10/state-courts-choosing-to-follow-federal-precedents.html\"\u003epost by Steve Vladeck\u003c/a\u003e, and (3) a \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/10/29/bound-by-federal-law\"\u003epost by Christian Turner\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease\"\u003eEbola virus diseased\u003c/a\u003e and about \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease_in_the_United_States\"\u003eEbola in the United States\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe CDC’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/index.html\"\u003einformation page on Ebola transmission\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/human-transmission.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReview of Human-to-Human Transmission of Ebola Virus\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/10/is-there-any-risk-of-ebola-transmission.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs There Any Risk of Ebola Transmission from an Asymptomatic Person?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEM Leroy et al., \u003ca href=\"http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(00)02405-3/fulltext\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHuman Asymptomatic Ebola Infection and Strong Inflammatory Response\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGostin, Hodge, and Burris, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2512348\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs the United States Prepared for Ebola\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTavernise, Shear, and Cooper (for the NY Times), \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/28/nyregion/ebola-us.html?smid=fb-share\u0026amp;_r=2\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSeeking Unity, U.S. Revises Ebola Monitoring Rules\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLaura Donohue, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1882506\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBiodefense and Constitutional Constraints\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (an excellent history of US and UK quarantine law)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Hicks, \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2014/10/07/a-brief-history-of-quarantines-in-the-united-states/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Brief History of Quarantines in the United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a very short timeline in the Washington Post) and Peter Tyson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/short-history-of-quarantine.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Short History of Quarantine\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a more detailed and global timeline)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16169198038706839183\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJacobson v. Massachusetts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; see also James Colgrove and Ronald Bayer, \u003ca href=\"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1449222/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eManifold Restraints: Liberty, Public Health, and the Legacy of\u003c/em\u003e Jacobson v Massachusetts\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTara Ragone, \u003ca href=\"http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/healthlawprof_blog/2014/10/guest-blogger-research-fellow-and-lecturer-in-law-tara-a-ragone-state-quarantines-balancing-public-h.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState Quarantines: Balancing Public Health with Liberty Interests\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a very helpful blog post discussing issues and authorities relevant to the Kaci Hickox case)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJared Cole (for the Congressional Research Service), \u003ca href=\"http://fas.org/sgp/crs/homesec/RL33201.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFederal and State Quarantine and Isolation Authority\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGostin, Burris, and Lazzarini, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=139923\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Law and the Public's Health: A Study of Infectious Disease Law in the United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Fever_Epidemic_of_1793\"\u003ePhiladelphia’s Yellow Fever epidemic of 1793\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe text of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/chapter-6A\"\u003ePublic Health Service Act\u003c/a\u003e (containing the authority for federal quarantine and isolation)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.publichealthlaw.net/Reader/docs/JewHo.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJew Ho v. Williamson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNorimitsu Onishi (for the NY Times), \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/30/world/africa/quarantine-for-ebola-lifted-in-liberia-slum.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eQuarantine for Ebola Lifted in Liberia Slum\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://verdict.justia.com/2014/10/08/containing-ebola-quarantine-constitution\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eContaining Ebola: Quarantine and the Constitution\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eArjun Jaikumar, \u003ca href=\"http://columbialawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Jaikumar-Arjun.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRed Flags in Quarantine: The Questionable Constitutionality of Federal Quarantine After\u003c/em\u003e NFIB v. Sebelius\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Rothstein, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2499701\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFrom SARS to Ebola: Legal and Ethical Considerations for Modern Quarantine\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=30415834309941990\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMorgan’s Steamship Co. v. Louisiana Board of Health\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (upholding the constitutionality of state quarantine)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCDC, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/exposure/monitoring-and-movement-of-persons-with-exposure.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInterim U.S. Guidance for Monitoring and Movement of Persons with Potential Ebola Virus Exposure\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSee section 604 of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.publichealthlaw.net/MSEHPA/MSEHPA2.pdf\"\u003eThe Model State Emergency Health Powers Act\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFazal Khan, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1611833\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEnsuring Government Accountability During Public Health Emergencies\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15100833359001692731\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCity of Newark v. J.S.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (analyzing the Due Process and statutory rights of a “non-compliant,” TB-infected, homeless man)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1573671774928824017\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGreene v. Edwards\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (awarding a state writ of habeas corpus in a TB isolation case)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_tuberculosis_scare\"\u003ethe 2007 tuberculosis scare\u003c/a\u003e caused by the travel of Andrew Speaker \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFidler, Gostin, and Markel, \u003ca href=\"http://www.repository.law.indiana.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1370\u0026amp;context=facpub\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThrough the Quarantine Looking Glass: Drug-Resistant Tuberculosis and Public Health Governance, Law, and Ethics\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (also discussing the Andrew Speaker incident)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2359282792038633497\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCompagnie Francaise de Navigation a Vapeur v. Louisiana State Board of Health\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWendy Parmet, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2007582\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAIDS and Quarantine: The Revival of an Archaic Doctrine\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (interesting, among other reasons, for the fact it was written in 1985 in the midst of the relative early days of the AIDS crisis)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5028135944880156041\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCity of New York v. New Saint Mark’s Baths\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRandy Shilts, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/And-Band-Played-On-20th-Anniversary/dp/0312374631\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAnd the Band Played On\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._5122_(2006)\"\u003eJohn Warner National Defense Authorization Act\u003c/a\u003e of 2007, the \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act\"\u003ePosse Comitatus Act\u003c/a\u003e, and the \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic_and_All-Hazards_Preparedness_Reauthorization_Act_of_2013\"\u003ePandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Reauthorization Act of 2013\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10296811528183203766\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMathews v. Eldridge\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and, yes, there are only three factors)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Markovits, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1416\u0026amp;context=fss_papers\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eQuarantines and Distributive Justice\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHelene Cooper and Michael Shear, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/29/us/politics/obama-defends-cdcs-ebola-rules-as-sensible-based-in-science.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJoint Chiefs Chairman Urges 21-Day Quarantine for Troops Working in Ebola Zone\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Fazal Khan.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The one about ebola, with Fazal Khan.","date_published":"2014-10-31T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/1b26079c-bf29-4c3e-b375-47c5249a368a.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48959018,"duration_in_seconds":5969}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:544ab58ee4b0d70e82444ac3","title":"Episode 38: You're Going to Hate This Answer","url":"https://oralargument.org/38","content_text":"Steve Vladeck joins us to dive further into federal courts and federal rights. After getting Steve’s take on our discussion concerning federal courts of appeals and gay marriage last week with Michael Dorf, we discuss the issues raised by what Steve thinks could be a major new case in the Supreme Court this term: Armstrong v. Exceptional Child Center. How and when can you enforce a federal statute or the Constitution against state officials? Simple question, right?\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSteve Vladeck’s profile, his writing, his info and posts on the Just Security blog, and his Twitter feed\nOral Argument 34: There’s Not Really a Best Font with Matthew Butterick and Oral Argument 11: Big Red Diesel (when Butterick’s Practical Typography was first brought up on the show)\nOral Argument 37: Hammer Blow, in which Michael Dorf delivered many lessons in the relationship between state courts and lower federal courts, an issue critical for the current state of gay marriage in the United States\nDanforth v. Minnesota (deciding that states, as a matter of state law, may apply retroactively new constitutional rules announced by the Supreme Court, even if federal law does not require retroactive application)\nBush v. Gore (Rehnquist’s concurring opinion arguing that state courts may not interfere, even through state constitutional judgments, with certain legislatively enacted election laws that interact in advantageous ways with federal law)\nVOPA v. Stewart\nStephen Vladeck, Douglas and the Fate of Ex Parte Young\nDouglas v. Independent Living Center\nThe Eleventh Amendment: “The judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by citizens of another state, or by citizens or subjects of any foreign state.”\nEx part Young (And note in dissent we find Justice Harlan, the heroic dissenter in Plessy v. Ferguson, sounding the federalist alarm: Allowing private suits in federal courts against state officers for their official actions “would inaugurate a new era in the American judicial system and in the relations of the National and state governments. It would enable the subordinate Federal courts to supervise and control the official action of the States as if they were \"dependencies\" or provinces.”)\nThe cases Steve cites as leading up to Ex parte Young: Hans v. Louisiana (interpreting the Eleventh Amendment to bar suits arising under federal law against a state not only by citizens of “another state” but also by its own citizens) and Lochner v. New York\nAdar v. Smith (the Fifth Circuit case to which Steve referred that permitted Louisiana to refuse to add a gay adoptive parent’s name to a birth certificate)\nAlexander v. Sandoval (marking the end of inferring private causes of action in federal statutes)\nGonzaga University v. Doe\nLyle Deniston, Opinion Analysis: A Right to Sue Under Medicaid – Maybe\nPennsylvania Pharmacists Association v. Houstoun (in which then-Judge Alito notes that while providers may not sue under the Medicaid access requirements “Medicaid recipients plainly satisfy the intended-to-benefit requirement and are thus potential private plaintiffs” under section 1983)\nSCOTUSblog page for Armstrong v. Exceptional Child Center, which will be updated with briefs, arguments, and, ultimately, the Court’s decision\nSeminole Tribe of Florida v. Florida\nSteve’s amicus brief in Douglas\nJonathan Freiman, to whom both Steve and Christian trace experience with detainee cases\nSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eSteve Vladeck joins us to dive further into federal courts and federal rights. After getting Steve’s take on our discussion concerning federal courts of appeals and gay marriage last week with Michael Dorf, we discuss the issues raised by what Steve thinks could be a major new case in the Supreme Court this term: \u003cem\u003eArmstrong v. Exceptional Child Center\u003c/em\u003e. How and when can you enforce a federal statute or the Constitution against state officials? Simple question, right?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Vladeck’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.wcl.american.edu/faculty/vladeck/\"\u003eprofile\u003c/a\u003e, his \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=362455\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e, his info and posts on the \u003ca href=\"http://justsecurity.org/author/vladecksteve/\"\u003eJust Security blog\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck\"\u003ehis Twitter feed\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/34\"\u003eOral Argument 34: There’s Not Really a Best Font\u003c/a\u003e with Matthew Butterick and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/11\"\u003eOral Argument 11: Big Red Diesel\u003c/a\u003e (when \u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/index.html\"\u003eButterick’s Practical Typography\u003c/a\u003e was first brought up on the show)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/37\"\u003eOral Argument 37: Hammer Blow\u003c/a\u003e, in which Michael Dorf delivered many lessons in the relationship between state courts and lower federal courts, an issue critical for the current state of gay marriage in the United States\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16815679881665298152\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDanforth v. Minnesota\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (deciding that states, as a matter of state law, may apply retroactively new constitutional rules announced by the Supreme Court, even if federal law does not require retroactive application)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2298973060085224552\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBush v. Gore\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Rehnquist’s concurring opinion arguing that state courts may not interfere, even through state constitutional judgments, with certain legislatively enacted election laws that interact in advantageous ways with federal law)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13349901390504020676\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVOPA v. Stewart\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Vladeck, \u003ca href=\"http://www.yalelawjournal.org/pdf/1077_9op1puy9.pdf\"\u003eDouglas \u003cem\u003eand the Fate of\u003c/em\u003e Ex Parte Young\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11450762484924247252\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDouglas v. Independent Living Center\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleventh_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution\"\u003eThe Eleventh Amendment\u003c/a\u003e: “The judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by citizens of another state, or by citizens or subjects of any foreign state.”\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15822732193533819720\"\u003eEx part \u003cem\u003eYoung\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (And note in dissent we find Justice Harlan, \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/27\"\u003ethe heroic dissenter in \u003cem\u003ePlessy v. Ferguson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, sounding the federalist alarm: Allowing private suits in federal courts against state officers for their official actions “would inaugurate a new era in the American judicial system and in the relations of the National and state governments. It would enable the subordinate Federal courts to supervise and control the official action of the States as if they were \"dependencies\" or provinces.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe cases Steve cites as leading up to Ex parte \u003cem\u003eYoung\u003c/em\u003e: \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16406566451636682555\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHans v. Louisiana\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (interpreting the Eleventh Amendment to bar suits arising under federal law against a state not only by citizens of “another state” but also by its own citizens) and \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10760991087928264675\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLochner v. New York\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4858297583518048554\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAdar v. Smith\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the Fifth Circuit case to which Steve referred that permitted Louisiana to refuse to add a gay adoptive parent’s name to a birth certificate)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6907411608837736130\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAlexander v. Sandoval\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (marking the end of inferring private causes of action in federal statutes)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15990955269904427284\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGonzaga University v. Doe\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLyle Deniston, \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/2012/02/opinion-analysis-a-right-to-sue-under-medicaid-maybe/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOpinion Analysis: A Right to Sue Under Medicaid – Maybe\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5432629687200097253\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePennsylvania Pharmacists Association v. Houstoun\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (in which then-Judge Alito notes that while providers may not sue under the Medicaid access requirements “Medicaid recipients plainly satisfy the intended-to-benefit requirement and are thus potential private plaintiffs” under section 1983)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSCOTUSblog page for \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/armstrong-v-exceptional-child-center-inc/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eArmstrong v. Exceptional Child Center\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, which will be updated with briefs, arguments, and, ultimately, the Court’s decision\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12335683590877160073\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSeminole Tribe of Florida v. Florida\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/publishing/previewbriefs/Other_Brief_Updates/09-958_respondentamcufmrhhsofficials.authcheckdam.pdf\"\u003eamicus brief in \u003cem\u003eDouglas\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.wiggin.com/10532\"\u003eJonathan Freiman\u003c/a\u003e, to whom both Steve and Christian trace experience with detainee cases\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Steve Vladeck.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Federal rights, with Steve Vladeck.","date_published":"2014-10-24T16:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/98eb60fd-2d88-4c50-8b22-2abf31eed01c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":46521914,"duration_in_seconds":5664}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54426bcee4b0f9a2742f63c8","title":"Episode 37: Hammer Blow","url":"https://oralargument.org/37","content_text":"What do the federal appeals courts’ striking down of same-sex marriage bans actually mean for marriage equality in the states? Are the state courts bound to follow these decisions while the Supreme Court pursues other interests? Well, Christian got this completely wrong last week, and luckily Michael Dorf is on the line to set us straight. Knowledge bombs galore are dropped.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMichael Dorf’s profile, his writing, and his world-famous blog Dorf on Law\nAmicus, the new Slate podcast by Dahlia Lithwick\nOral Argument 36: Firehose of Equality, the last episode in which Anthony Kreis was terrific and Christian made an error that led to this show\nMichael Dorf, No Massive Resistance to Same-Sex Marriage from South Carolina\nMichael Dorf, The Relative Importance of Inter-Circuit Conflict and State-Circuit Conflict as Cert Criteria\nAbout claim preclusion and nonmutual issue preclusion; United States v. Mendoza (holding that issue preclusion does not apply against the federal government)\nColin Wrabley, Applying Federal Courts of Appeals’ Precedent\nThe Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution\nLochart v. Fretwell, in which Justice Thomas concurred and briefly argued that the “Supremacy Clause demands that state law yield to federal law, but neither federal supremacy nor any other principle of federal law requires that a state court's interpretation of federal law give way to a (lower) federal court's interpretation”\nMartin v. Hunter’ Lessee\nAbout the grimly named Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act, which everyone calls “the AEDPA,” and pronounces ED-puh\nThe federal habeas statute, reflecting in subsection (d) the deference required by the AEDPA to state court judgments on issues of federal law in habeas, which federal law must be “clearly established . . . by the Supreme Court” to be a constraint in habeas on states at all\nTeague v. Lane\nAbout the removal jurisdiction of federal courts, the ability of a defendant to move a state court action to a federal court under certain circumstances\nGuido Calabresi, Federal and State Courts: Restoring a Workable Balance\nHenry Friendly, In Praise of Erie — And of the New Federal Common Law (unfortunately only available for a fee on Hein Online)\nState v. Dukes (an intermediate South Carolina appellate ruling citing State v. Ford Motor Co. for the proposition that South Carolina courts are bound by the constitutional rulings of the Fourth Circuit)\nKevin Walsh, Re: SSM Cert Denials (suggesting South Carolina should review and change its apparent approach to Fourth Circuit precedent)\nMichael Dorf, Should Anti-SSM Appeals Court Judges Rule For Same-Sex Marriage Based On The Cert Denials?\nMichael Dorf, Prediction and the Rule of Law (an article analyzing the general point applied in the above-linked blog post)\nOral Argument 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe, which is all about and contains links for the famous Erie case\nMichael Dorf, How the Supreme Court’s Inaction on Same-Sex Marriage Echoes Its Conduct in the Civil Rights Era\nUnited States v. Windsor\nMichael Dorf, Cert Denied Is Justice Delayed: SCOTUS Kremlinology in the SSM Cases\nStuart v. Laird and some background\nSpecial Guest: Michael Dorf.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhat do the federal appeals courts’ striking down of same-sex marriage bans actually mean for marriage equality in the states? Are the state courts bound to follow these decisions while the Supreme Court pursues other interests? Well, Christian got this completely wrong last week, and luckily Michael Dorf is on the line to set us straight. Knowledge bombs galore are dropped.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/faculty/bio_michael_dorf.cfm\"\u003eprofile\u003c/a\u003e, his \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=199184\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e, and his world-famous blog \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org\"\u003eDorf on Law\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/amicus/2014/10/slate_amicus_with_dahlia_lithwick_on_the_supreme_court_s_new_term_gay_marriage.html\"\u003eAmicus\u003c/a\u003e, the new Slate podcast by Dahlia Lithwick\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/36\"\u003eOral Argument 36: Firehose of Equality\u003c/a\u003e, the last episode in which Anthony Kreis was terrific and Christian made an error that led to this show\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/10/no-massive-resistance-to-same-sex.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNo Massive Resistance to Same-Sex Marriage from South Carolina\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/10/the-relative-importance-of-inter.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Relative Importance of Inter-Circuit Conflict and State-Circuit Conflict as Cert Criteria\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Res_judicata\"\u003eclaim preclusion\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_estoppel\"\u003enonmutual issue preclusion\u003c/a\u003e; \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7004466370468993122\u0026amp;hl=en\u0026amp;as_sdt=80006\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Mendoza\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (holding that issue preclusion does not apply against the federal government)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eColin Wrabley, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1083\u0026amp;context=circuit_review\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eApplying Federal Courts of Appeals’ Precedent\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlevi\"\u003eThe Supremacy Clause\u003c/a\u003e of the U.S. Constitution\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17182742191246774750\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLochart v. Fretwell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, in which Justice Thomas concurred and briefly argued that the “Supremacy Clause demands that state law yield to federal law, but neither federal supremacy nor any other principle of federal law requires that a state court's interpretation of federal law give way to a (lower) federal court's interpretation”\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2949122041407056724\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMartin v. Hunter’ Lessee\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the grimly named \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiterrorism_and_Effective_Death_Penalty_Act_of_1996\"\u003eAntiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act\u003c/a\u003e, which everyone calls “the AEDPA,” and pronounces ED-puh\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/2254\"\u003eThe federal habeas statute\u003c/a\u003e, reflecting in subsection (d) the deference required by the AEDPA to state court judgments on issues of federal law in habeas, which federal law must be “clearly established . . . by the Supreme Court” to be a constraint in habeas on states at all\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9178485170219770923\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTeague v. Lane\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removal_jurisdiction\"\u003ethe removal jurisdiction of federal courts\u003c/a\u003e, the ability of a defendant to move a state court action to a federal court under certain circumstances\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGuido Calabresi, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3122\u0026amp;context=fss_papers\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFederal and State Courts: Restoring a Workable Balance\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHenry Friendly, \u003ca href=\"http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/nylr39\u0026amp;div=30\u0026amp;id=\u0026amp;page=\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIn Praise of\u003c/em\u003e Erie — \u003cem\u003eAnd of the New Federal Common Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (unfortunately only available for a fee on Hein Online)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10638362362480095472\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState v. Dukes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (an intermediate South Carolina appellate ruling citing \u003cem\u003eState v. Ford Motor Co.\u003c/em\u003e for the proposition that South Carolina courts are bound by the constitutional rulings of the Fourth Circuit)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKevin Walsh, \u003ca href=\"http://mirrorofjustice.blogs.com/mirrorofjustice/2014/10/re-ssm-cert-denials-generally-speaking-state-courts-are-not-bound-by-federal-circuit-court-of-appeal.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRe: SSM Cert Denials\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (suggesting South Carolina should review and change its apparent approach to Fourth Circuit precedent)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/10/should-anti-ssm-appeals-court-judges.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShould Anti-SSM Appeals Court Judges Rule For Same-Sex Marriage Based On The Cert Denials?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/abstract=2214966\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePrediction and the Rule of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (an article analyzing the general point applied in the above-linked blog post)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/28\"\u003eOral Argument 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe\u003c/a\u003e, which is all about and contains links for the famous \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4671607337309792720\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eErie\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e case\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://verdict.justia.com/2014/10/17/supreme-courts-inaction-sex-marriage-echoes-conduct-civil-rights-era\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow the Supreme Court’s Inaction on Same-Sex Marriage Echoes Its Conduct in the Civil Rights Era\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6241888197107641609\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Windsor\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/10/cert-denied-is-justice-delayed-scotus.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCert Denied Is Justice Delayed: SCOTUS Kremlinology in the SSM Cases\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/US/5/5.US.299.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eStuart v. Laird\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_v._Laird\"\u003esome background\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Michael Dorf.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Same-sex marriage in the courts, with Michael Dorf.","date_published":"2014-10-18T09:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/cda47355-bcce-4e17-afa6-0b7dec241e53.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37938276,"duration_in_seconds":4592}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5439432de4b0fb896b1fa4f7","title":"Episode 36: Firehose of Equality","url":"https://oralargument.org/36","content_text":"The Supreme Court this week handed down a series of landmark non-decisions. We talk with PhD candidate and commentator Anthony Kreis about the confusing, hopeful, exciting, promising, uncertain, and evolving state of marriage equality. In the wake of a (so far) uniform wave of appellate court decisions striking down gay-marriage bans, the Supreme Court steps in and … lets them stand without taking them up for decision. Why? And what is the state of law? What is likely to happen, and what are local officials to do? (And if you’re in a position to hire a Visiting Assistant Professor or Fellow, you’d be crazy not to try to hire Anthony.)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAbout Anthony Kreis, his CV, and his twitter feed\nAnthony Kreis, Marriage Equality in State and Nation\nAmy Howe, Today’s Orders: Same-Sex Marriage Petitions Denied (summarizing the cert denials and containing links to the SCOTUSblog pages for the decisions striking down marriage bans in the Seventh (Posner’s “Go figure” decision), Tenth (also here), and Fourth Circuit Courts of Appeals)\nLatta v. Otter, the Ninth Circuit case handed down on Tuesday of this week and striking down marriage bans in Nevada and Idaho\nLoving v. Virginia and amazing audio of the oral argument\nMcLaughlin v. Florida\nLast term’s gay marriage decisions: United States v. Windsor and Hollingsworth v. Perry\nDescription of and links to audio of oral arguments in the several Sixth Circuit cases challenging marriage bans in Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and Tennessee\nLinda Greenhouse and Reva Siegel, Before Roe v. Wade: Voices that Shaped the Abortion Debate Before the Supreme Court’s Ruling (see especially beginning at p.303 about whether Roe is to blame for the ensuing political conflict over abortion and what that might say about how courts should approach gay marriage)\nA recent Pew survey on, among other things, whether homosexuality is sinful\nHeather Hollingsworth, Koster Won’t Appeal Same-Sex Marriage Ruling, reporting that the Missouri AG won’t appeal a state trial court ruling requiring recognition of same-sex marriages performed in other states\nGeoff Pender, State’s Gay Marriage Ban’s Days Appear Numbered (about Mississippi)\nSome background on homosexuality and Catholicism\nMargaret Fosmoe, Notre Dame, Saint Mary’s Extend Benefits to Same-Sex Spouses\nDoug Richards, Handel: Gay Parents “Not in the Best Interest of the Child” (interview transcript showing the rhetoric around the 2010 Georgia gubernatorial primary, including this gem: “Why is marriage between one man and one woman? (Laughs). Are you serious?”)\nJames Oleske, Jr., The Evolution of Accommodation: Comparing the Unequal Treatment of Religious Objections to Interracial and Same-Sex Marriages\nDahlia Lithwick and Sonja West, Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around: The Supreme Court Is Harming people with Its Inscrutable Gay Marriage Actions.\nSouth Carolina v. Condon, order of the South Carolina Supreme Court barring probate judges from issuing marriage license, notwithstanding the Fourth Circuit’s decision in Bostic, until the federal district court in South Carolina takes action (in response to AG Alan Wilson’s petition)\nSaikrishna Pakrash, The Executive’s Duty to Disregard Unconstitutional Laws\nKansas Supreme Court’s temporary injunction blocking issuance of same-sex marriage licenses\nLyle Denniston, Gay Marriage and Baker v. Nelson\nCatherine Thompson, GOP Nominee for Wisconsin AG Says He Would Defend Interracial Marriage Ban\nCenter for Reproductive Rights, What if Roe Fell? (see especially pages 8-9 on the repeal implications of a federal finding of unconstitutionality)\nChristian Turner, Roles\nSpecial Guest: Anthony Kreis.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThe Supreme Court this week handed down a series of landmark non-decisions. We talk with PhD candidate and commentator Anthony Kreis about the confusing, hopeful, exciting, promising, uncertain, and evolving state of marriage equality. In the wake of a (so far) uniform wave of appellate court decisions striking down gay-marriage bans, the Supreme Court steps in and … lets them stand without taking them up for decision. Why? And what is the state of law? What is likely to happen, and what are local officials to do? (And if you’re in a position to hire a Visiting Assistant Professor or Fellow, you’d be crazy not to try to hire Anthony.)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://spia.uga.edu/directory/students/kreis-anthony-michael\"\u003eAnthony Kreis\u003c/a\u003e, his \u003ca href=\"http://spia.uga.edu/uploads/vitae/Kreis_CV.pdf\"\u003eCV\u003c/a\u003e, and his \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/AnthonyMKreis\"\u003etwitter feed\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnthony Kreis, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2485215\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMarriage Equality in State and Nation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAmy Howe, \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/10/todays-orders-same-sex-marriage-petitins-denied/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eToday’s Orders: Same-Sex Marriage Petitions Denied\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (summarizing the cert denials and containing links to the SCOTUSblog pages for the decisions striking down marriage bans in the \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17115587439154811848\"\u003eSeventh\u003c/a\u003e (Posner’s “Go figure” decision), \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15363525233623234319\"\u003eTenth\u003c/a\u003e (\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3656344385927950221\"\u003ealso here\u003c/a\u003e), and \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11233938130945041199\"\u003eFourth\u003c/a\u003e Circuit Courts of Appeals)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10075988862707276017\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLatta v. Otter\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the Ninth Circuit case handed down on Tuesday of this week and striking down marriage bans in Nevada and Idaho\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5103666188878568597\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLoving v. Virginia\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and amazing \u003ca href=\"http://www.oyez.org/cases/1960-1969/1966/1966_395/argument\"\u003eaudio of the oral argument\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17718017251310240391\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMcLaughlin v. Florida\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLast term’s gay marriage decisions: \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6241888197107641609\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Windsor\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17941114802734225386\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHollingsworth v. Perry\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://sdgln.com/news/2014/08/06/breaking-sixth-circuit-hears-gay-marriage-cases-kentucky-michigan-ohio-tennessee#sthash.vx8c8Kqk.dpbs\"\u003eDescription of and links to\u003c/a\u003e audio of oral arguments in the several Sixth Circuit cases challenging marriage bans in Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and Tennessee\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLinda Greenhouse and Reva Siegel, \u003ca href=\"http://documents.law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/BeforeRoe2ndEd_1.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBefore\u003c/em\u003e Roe v. Wade: \u003cem\u003eVoices that Shaped the Abortion Debate Before the Supreme Court’s Ruling\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see especially beginning at p.303 about whether \u003cem\u003eRoe\u003c/em\u003e is to blame for the ensuing political conflict over abortion and what that might say about how courts should approach gay marriage)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eA recent \u003ca href=\"http://www.pewforum.org/2014/09/22/section-3-social-political-issues/\"\u003ePew survey\u003c/a\u003e on, among other things, whether homosexuality is sinful\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHeather Hollingsworth, \u003ca href=\"http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2014/10/06/koster-appeal-sex-marriage-ruling/16826355/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKoster Won’t Appeal Same-Sex Marriage Ruling\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, reporting that the Missouri AG won’t appeal a state trial court ruling requiring recognition of same-sex marriages performed in other states\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGeoff Pender, \u003ca href=\"http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/10/08/states-gay-marriage-bans-days-appear-numbered/16952365/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState’s Gay Marriage Ban’s Days Appear Numbered\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (about Mississippi)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSome \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_Roman_Catholicism\"\u003ebackground on homosexuality and Catholicism\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMargaret Fosmoe, \u003ca href=\"http://www.southbendtribune.com/news/notre-dame-extends-benefits-to-same-sex-spouses/article_63d706f6-4fbf-11e4-a9d8-001a4bcf6878.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNotre Dame, Saint Mary’s Extend Benefits to Same-Sex Spouses\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDoug Richards, \u003ca href=\"http://archive.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=146501\u0026amp;catid=40\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHandel: Gay Parents “Not in the Best Interest of the Child”\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (interview transcript showing the rhetoric around the 2010 Georgia gubernatorial primary, including this gem: “Why is marriage between one man and one woman? (Laughs). Are you serious?”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Oleske, Jr., \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2400100\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Evolution of Accommodation: Comparing the Unequal Treatment of Religious Objections to Interracial and Same-Sex Marriages\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick and Sonja West, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/10/supreme_court_gay_marriage_chaos_which_states_allow_same_sex_marriage.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eStop Draggin’ My Heart Around: The Supreme Court Is Harming people with Its Inscrutable Gay Marriage Actions.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.judicial.state.sc.us/courtOrders/displayOrder.cfm?orderNo=2014-10-09-01\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSouth Carolina v. Condon\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, order of the South Carolina Supreme Court barring probate judges from issuing marriage license, notwithstanding the Fourth Circuit’s decision in \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11233938130945041199\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBostic\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, until \u003ca href=\"https://www.scribd.com/doc/242220745/3-13-cv-02351-70\"\u003ethe federal district court in South Carolina takes action\u003c/a\u003e (in response to AG Alan Wilson’s \u003ca href=\"http://media.thestate.com/smedia/2014/10/08/19/02/1htUWF.So.74.pdf#storylink=relast\"\u003epetition\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSaikrishna Pakrash, \u003ca href=\"http://georgetownlawjournal.org/files/pdf/96-5/Prakash.PDF\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Executive’s Duty to Disregard Unconstitutional Laws\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.kscourts.org/Cases-and-Opinions/opinions/SupCt/2014/20141010/112590.pdf\"\u003eKansas Supreme Court’s temporary injunction\u003c/a\u003e blocking issuance of same-sex marriage licenses\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLyle Denniston, \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/2012/07/gay-marriage-and-baker-v-nelson/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGay Marriage and\u003c/em\u003e Baker v. Nelson\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCatherine Thompson, \u003ca href=\"http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/brad-schimel-defend-interracial-marriage-ban\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGOP Nominee for Wisconsin AG Says He Would Defend Interracial Marriage Ban\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCenter for Reproductive Rights, \u003ca href=\"http://reproductiverights.org/sites/default/files/documents/bo_whatifroefell.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat if\u003c/em\u003e Roe \u003cem\u003eFell?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see especially pages 8-9 on the repeal implications of a federal finding of unconstitutionality)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2012/5/25/roles.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRoles\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Anthony Kreis.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The landmark non-decisions on gay marriage, with Anthony Kreis","date_published":"2014-10-11T11:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/349a84d1-8c95-4e83-8eb7-d3ae21d75dfb.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48733221,"duration_in_seconds":5941}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:542ef69ae4b0b24d535e3492","title":"Episode 35: Multitudes","url":"https://oralargument.org/35","content_text":"We discuss the common law and originalism with law, literature, and history scholar Bernadette Meyler. Some of today’s most intense constitutional controversies revolve around the proper sources of interpretive tools. Some forms of originalism, believing judging is legitimate only if it foregoes political choice and instead adopts the choices made by democratically accountable institutions, attempt to locate the sole meanings that constitutional text, whether “natural born citizen,” “habeas corpus,” or “ex post facto,” had in the common law at the time of its adoption. Bernie’s research reveals that the common law itself, rather than speaking with one voice, exhibited some of the same diversity of interpretation and opinion that we see in debates about meaning today. Nonetheless, she believes that interpretation that gives weight to those original debates, rather than non-existent singular meanings, is better justified than unmoored living constitutionalism. She calls this method “common law originalism.”\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAbout Bernadette Meyler and her writing\nFollow-up from Matthew Butterick, in which he reminds us that the podcast app we mentioned last week, Overcast, uses his typeface, Concourse\nEd Mazza, Nearly 1,000 Chickens Killed (a story of animal victimization related to our conversation with Matthew Liebman)\nBackground on the common law\nAbout Sir Edward Coke and his Law Reports, which can be browsed here\nCalvin’s Case as reported by Coke\nAbout Dr. Bonham’s Case\nBackground on originalism; see also here\nAntonin Scalia, Common-Law Courts in a Civil-Law System: The Role of United States Federal Courts in Interpreting the Constitution and Laws (upon which he expands in A Matter of Interpretation\nLawrence Solum, Semantic Originalism (an originalist theory that includes “the idea of the division of linguistic labor”)\nBernadette Meyler, Accepting Contested Meanings\nBernadette Meyler, Defoe and the Written Constitution (compare with Andrew Coan, The Irrelevance of Writtenness in Constitutional Interpretation)\nWalt Whitman, Song of Myself\nOliver Wendell Holmes: “A word is not a crystal, transparent and unchanged, it is the skin of a living thought and may vary greatly in color and content according to the circumstances and the time in which it is used.” Towne v. Eisner (1918)\nSanford Levinson, Our Undemocratic Constitution: Where the Constitution Goes Wrong (And How We the People Can Correct It\nSpecial Guest: Bernadette Meyler.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe discuss the common law and originalism with law, literature, and history scholar Bernadette Meyler. Some of today’s most intense constitutional controversies revolve around the proper sources of interpretive tools. Some forms of originalism, believing judging is legitimate only if it foregoes political choice and instead adopts the choices made by democratically accountable institutions, attempt to locate the sole meanings that constitutional text, whether “natural born citizen,” “habeas corpus,” or “ex post facto,” had in the common law at the time of its adoption. Bernie’s research reveals that the common law itself, rather than speaking with one voice, exhibited some of the same diversity of interpretation and opinion that we see in debates about meaning today. Nonetheless, she believes that interpretation that gives weight to those original debates, rather than non-existent singular meanings, is better justified than unmoored living constitutionalism. She calls this method “common law originalism.”\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.stanford.edu/profile/bernadette-meyler\"\u003eBernadette Meyler\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=393061\"\u003eher writing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFollow-up from \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/34\"\u003eMatthew Butterick\u003c/a\u003e, in which he reminds us that the podcast app we mentioned last week, \u003ca href=\"https://overcast.fm/\"\u003eOvercast\u003c/a\u003e, uses his typeface, \u003ca href=\"http://typographyforlawyers.com/concourse.html\"\u003eConcourse\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEd Mazza, \u003ca href=\"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/chickens-killed-golf-club-foster-farms_n_5911774.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNearly 1,000 Chickens Killed\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a story of animal victimization related to \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/33\"\u003eour conversation with Matthew Liebman\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law\"\u003eBackground on the common law\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Coke\"\u003eSir Edward Coke\u003c/a\u003e and his \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Coke#Reports\"\u003eLaw Reports\u003c/a\u003e, which can be \u003ca href=\"https://archive.org/details/reportssiredwar04cokegoog\"\u003ebrowsed here\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin's_Case\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCalvin’s Case\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e as \u003ca href=\"http://www.constitution.org/coke/Calvins_Case-7_Coke_Report_1a_77_ER_377.html\"\u003ereported by Coke\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Bonham's_Case\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDr. Bonham’s Case\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Originalism\"\u003eBackground on originalism\u003c/a\u003e; see also \u003ca href=\"http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/constitutionalism/#Ori\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAntonin Scalia, \u003ca href=\"http://tannerlectures.utah.edu/_documents/a-to-z/s/scalia97.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCommon-Law Courts in a Civil-Law System: The Role of United States Federal Courts in Interpreting the Constitution and Laws\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (upon which he expands in \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Matter-Interpretation-Federal-Courts-University/dp/0691004005\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Matter of Interpretation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Solum, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1120244\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSemantic Originalism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (an originalist theory that includes “the idea of the division of linguistic labor”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBernadette Meyler, \u003ca href=\"http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4940\u0026amp;context=flr\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAccepting Contested Meanings\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBernadette Meyler, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1091749\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDefoe and the Written Constitution\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (compare with Andrew Coan, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1281066\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Irrelevance of Writtenness in Constitutional Interpretation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWalt Whitman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/s_z/whitman/song.htm\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSong of Myself\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOliver Wendell Holmes: “A word is not a crystal, transparent and unchanged, it is the skin of a living thought and may vary greatly in color and content according to the circumstances and the time in which it is used.” \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17843342023724787215\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTowne v. Eisner\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (1918)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSanford Levinson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.utexas.edu/law/faculty/slevinson/undemocratic/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOur Undemocratic Constitution: Where the Constitution Goes Wrong (And How We the People Can Correct It\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Bernadette Meyler.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Common law originalism, with Bernadette Meyler.","date_published":"2014-10-03T15:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/fd451481-b055-47bf-ba6c-e2a523732419.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40256492,"duration_in_seconds":4881}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54263a5de4b043f786c93ec1","title":"Episode 34: There’s Not Really a Best Font","url":"https://oralargument.org/34","content_text":"We discuss the role of design in the practice of law with renowned typographer-lawyer Matthew Butterick. The conversation ranges among very practical tips for making better documents, why so many legal documents are poorly designed, why lawyers should care about design, and what it even means to design a document. Matthew explains why IRS forms are some of the most well-designed legal documents around. Also, Joe manages to connect (positively) enjoying physical books with smelling gasoline.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAbout Matthew Butterick, also here and @mbutterick on Twitter\nNicholas Georgakopoulos, Knee Defender, Barro’s Error, and Surprise Norms\nChristopher Buccafusco and Chris Sprigman, Who Deserves Those 4 Inches of Airplane Seat Space?\nKeith O’Brien, America’s Chimp Problem\nThe pronunciation of “chimpanzee”\nCecilia Kang, Podcasts Are Back - And Making Money (sadly, not ours, but here’s Christian’s post on Podcasts and some of the reasons we started this show)\nOvercast, our preferred podcast app\nEpisode 11: Big Red Diesel, in which we discussed typography, text editing, and the worst breaches of email etiquette\nButterick’s Practical Typography (and how to pay for it if you choose!)\nFrom the book: Typography in Ten Minutes and Summary of Key Rules\nMatthew Butterick, Typography for Lawyers (and how to purchase physical and Kindle editions)\nBen Carter, Typography for Lawyers: One Space, Double Spacing, and Other Good Ideas\nAn example of a Supreme Court opinion, notable for its design\nRobin Williams, The Mac is Not a Typewriter\nMatthew Butterick, The Bomb in the Garden, text and images from a talk Matthew gave at TYPO San Francisco in 2013\nRob Walker, The Guts of a New Machine, reporting on the iPod’s first two years and including the quote from Steve Jobs that “design is how it works” (Note too the uncertainty in 2003 whether the iPod would go on to sell like the breakthrough Sony Walkman, which sold 186 million in twenty years. As of this article, the iPod had sold 1.4 million. It went on to sell 350 million in eleven years.)\nDan Barry, A Writing Coach Becomes a Listener, a profile of William Zinsser, author of On Writing Well\nMike Monteiro, Design Is a Job\nLawrence Solum, Legal Theory Lexicon: Fit and Justification\nPatrick Kingsley, Higgs Boson and Comic Sans: The Perfect Fusion\nMatthew Butterick, Pollen, “a publishing system that helps authors create beautiful and functional web-based books” and that “includes tools for writing, designing, programming, testing, and publishing”\nMatthew’s Equity and Concourse typefaces\nMatthew Butterick, The Economics of a Web-Based Book: Year One\nSpecial Guest: Matthew Butterick.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe discuss the role of design in the practice of law with renowned typographer-lawyer Matthew Butterick. The conversation ranges among very practical tips for making better documents, why so many legal documents are poorly designed, why lawyers should care about design, and what it even means to design a document. Matthew explains why IRS forms are some of the most well-designed legal documents around. Also, Joe manages to connect (positively) enjoying physical books with smelling gasoline.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://typographyforlawyers.com/about.html\"\u003eMatthew Butterick\u003c/a\u003e, also \u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/end-credits.html#bio\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/mbutterick\"\u003e@mbutterick on Twitter\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNicholas Georgakopoulos, \u003ca href=\"http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2014/09/knee-defender-barros-error-and-surprise-norms.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKnee Defender, Barro’s Error, and Surprise Norms\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristopher Buccafusco and Chris Sprigman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/09/airplane_seat_reclining_can_economics_reveal_who_deserves_the_space.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWho Deserves Those 4 Inches of Airplane Seat Space?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKeith O’Brien, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/09/research_on_chimpanzees_should_retired_government_chimps_go_to_sanctuaries.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmerica’s Chimp Problem\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/british/chimpanzee\"\u003epronunciation of “chimpanzee”\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCecilia Kang, \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/podcasts-are-back--and-making-money/2014/09/25/54abc628-39c9-11e4-9c9f-ebb47272e40e_story.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePodcasts Are Back - And Making Money\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (sadly, not ours, but here’s Christian’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/1/11/podcasts\"\u003epost on Podcasts\u003c/a\u003e and some of the reasons we started this show)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://overcast.fm\"\u003eOvercast\u003c/a\u003e, our preferred podcast app\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/11\"\u003eEpisode 11: Big Red Diesel\u003c/a\u003e, in which we discussed typography, text editing, and the worst breaches of email etiquette\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/index.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eButterick’s Practical Typography\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and \u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/how-to-pay-for-this-book.html\"\u003ehow to pay for it if you choose\u003c/a\u003e!)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrom the book: \u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/typography-in-ten-minutes.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTypography in Ten Minutes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/summary-of-key-rules.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSummary of Key Rules\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew Butterick, \u003ca href=\"http://typographyforlawyers.com/introduction.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTypography for Lawyers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and \u003ca href=\"http://typographyforlawyers.com/about.html\"\u003ehow to purchase physical and Kindle editions\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBen Carter, \u003ca href=\"http://bluegrassroots.org/home/typography-for-lawyers-one-space-double-spacing-and-other-go.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTypography for Lawyers: One Space, Double Spacing, and Other Good Ideas\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAn \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13a1284_ap6c.pdf\"\u003eexample of a Supreme Court opinion\u003c/a\u003e, notable for its design\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRobin Williams, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/The-Mac-Not-Typewriter-Edition/dp/0201782634\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Mac is Not a Typewriter\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew Butterick, \u003ca href=\"http://unitscale.com/mb/bomb-in-the-garden/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Bomb in the Garden\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, text and images from a talk Matthew gave at TYPO San Francisco in 2013\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRob Walker, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/30/magazine/the-guts-of-a-new-machine.html?src=pm\u0026amp;pagewanted=3\u0026amp;pagewanted=all\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Guts of a New Machine\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, reporting on the iPod’s first two years and including the quote from Steve Jobs that “design is how it works” (Note too the uncertainty in 2003 whether the iPod would go on to sell like the breakthrough Sony Walkman, which sold 186 million in twenty years. As of this article, the iPod had sold 1.4 million. It went on \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod#Sales\"\u003eto sell 350 million in eleven years\u003c/a\u003e.)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDan Barry, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/29/books/william-zinsser-author-of-on-writing-well-at-his-work.html?pagewanted=all\u0026amp;_r=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Writing Coach Becomes a Listener\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, a profile of \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Zinsser\"\u003eWilliam Zinsser\u003c/a\u003e, author of \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Writing-Well-30th-Anniversary-Edition/dp/0060891548\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOn Writing Well\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMike Monteiro, \u003ca href=\"http://www.abookapart.com/products/design-is-a-job\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDesign Is a Job\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Solum, \u003ca href=\"http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheory/2011/01/legal-theory-lexicon-fit-and-justification.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal Theory Lexicon: Fit and Justification\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePatrick Kingsley, \u003ca href=\"http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2012/jul/04/higgs-boson-comic-sans-twitter\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHiggs Boson and Comic Sans: The Perfect Fusion\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew Butterick, \u003ca href=\"http://pollenpub.com\"\u003ePollen\u003c/a\u003e, “a publishing system that helps authors create beautiful and functional web-based books” and that “includes tools for writing, designing, programming, testing, and publishing”\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew’s \u003ca href=\"http://typographyforlawyers.com/equity.html\"\u003eEquity\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://typographyforlawyers.com/concourse.html\"\u003eConcourse\u003c/a\u003e typefaces\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew Butterick, \u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/economics-year-one.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Economics of a Web-Based Book: Year One\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Matthew Butterick.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The one with typographer-lawyer Matthew Butterick.","date_published":"2014-09-27T00:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/3e2f82e9-af0d-4268-9a20-2be557ac3e6b.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":42039970,"duration_in_seconds":5104}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:541d8528e4b0c6a70bbcf9fd","title":"Episode 33: Other Minds","url":"https://oralargument.org/33","content_text":"Can non-human animals be “victims” of a crime? The Oregon Supreme Court recently decided they could be. We talk with Matthew Liebman, senior attorney with the Animal Legal Defense Fund, about the law of animals. Why and how do we prohibit animal cruelty? Is it to protect our own feelings, the inherent rights of animals themselves, a little of both? Does prohibiting cruelty protect us from hurting one another? Does a housefly have a right to an education? We discuss the difficulties of being perfect, the omnipresence of trade-offs, whaling by native peoples, whether a chimpanzee can sue in habeas corpus. And, come to think of it, why does Joe pronounce chimpanzee incorrectly, and how did he get Christian to start doing the same? This is the one about the role of animals in a system of human cooperation, and it features an all to brief return of the monkey selfie. (And we finally get to some of the excellent listener feedback we’ve gotten. Keep it coming: oralargumentpodcast@gmail.com.)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAbout Matthew Liebman, senior attorney for the Animal Legal Defense Fund\nBruce Wagman and Matthew Liebman, A Worldview of Animal Law\nOregon v. Nix, the case about animals as “victims”\nDavid Favre and Vivien Tsang, The Development of Anti-Cruelty Laws During the 1800s (PDF and HTML)\nAbout Henry Bergh, founder of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals\nThe Moral Status of Animals, an overview that includes a description of Immanuel Kant’s views on the moral status of animals\nAndrew Ireland Moore, Defining Animals as Crime Victims (note, Joe referred to this article, but the one by my classmate, Adam Kolber, is here)\nCurrent cases in which ALDF is involved\nLeanne Louie, Toothed Whales: Are They People Too\nThomas Martin, Whaling Rights of the Makah (see also, via HeinOnline, Lawrence Watters and Connie Dugger, Hunt for Gray Whales: The Dilemma of Native American Treaty Rights and the International Moratorium on Whaling\nManeesha Deckha, Animal Justice, Cultural Justice: A Posthumanist Response to Cultural Rights in Animals (Hein only) and Initiating a Non-Anthropocentric Jurisprudence\nSteven Wise’s Nonhuman Rights Project\nMichael Mountain, Appeals Court Sets Date for First Chimpanzee Lawsuit\nSierra Club v. Morton, in which Justice Douglas would find legal standing in the natural world itself (and citing Christopher Stone, Should Trees Have Standing? Toward Legal Rights for Natural Objects)\nSue Donaldson and Will Kymlicka, Zoopolis: A Political Theory of Animal Rights (also see an overview by the authors)\nAbout the other mind problem\nAbout cognitive ethology and animal cognition\nBen Beaumont-Thomas, SeaWorld shares tumble 33% following Blackfish documentary\nTilikum v. Sea World Parks and Entertainment, the 13th Amendment case brought on behalf of Sea World’s orcas\nAmerican Meat Institute v. USDA\nSpecial Guest: Matthew Liebman.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eCan non-human animals be “victims” of a crime? The Oregon Supreme Court recently decided they could be. We talk with Matthew Liebman, senior attorney with the Animal Legal Defense Fund, about the law of animals. Why and how do we prohibit animal cruelty? Is it to protect our own feelings, the inherent rights of animals themselves, a little of both? Does prohibiting cruelty protect us from hurting one another? Does a housefly have a right to an education? We discuss the difficulties of being perfect, the omnipresence of trade-offs, whaling by native peoples, whether a chimpanzee can sue in habeas corpus. And, come to think of it, why does Joe pronounce chimpanzee incorrectly, and how did he get Christian to start doing the same? This is the one about the role of animals in a system of human cooperation, and it features an all to brief return of the monkey selfie. (And we finally get to some of the excellent listener feedback we’ve gotten. Keep it coming: oralargumentpodcast@gmail.com.)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://aldf.org/about-us/meet-our-staff/litigation-program/#matthew-liebman\"\u003eMatthew Liebman\u003c/a\u003e, senior attorney for the \u003ca href=\"http://aldf.org\"\u003eAnimal Legal Defense Fund\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBruce Wagman and Matthew Liebman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cap-press.com/books/isbn/9781594604621/A+Worldview+of+Animal+Law\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Worldview of Animal Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4271380364716307372\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOregon v. Nix\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the case about animals as “victims”\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Favre and Vivien Tsang, \u003cem\u003eThe Development of Anti-Cruelty Laws During the 1800s\u003c/em\u003e (\u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.msu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1146\u0026amp;context=facpubs\"\u003ePDF\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://animallaw.info/articles/arusfavrehistcruelty1993.htm\"\u003eHTML\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Bergh\"\u003eHenry Bergh\u003c/a\u003e, founder of the \u003ca href=\"http://www.aspca.org\"\u003eAmerican Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-animal/\"\u003eThe Moral Status of Animals\u003c/a\u003e, an overview that includes a description of Immanuel Kant’s views on the moral status of animals\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAndrew Ireland Moore, \u003ca href=\"https://www.animallaw.info/article/defining-animals-crime-victims\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDefining Animals as Crime Victims\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (note, Joe referred to this article, but the one by my classmate, Adam Kolber, is \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=675851\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://aldf.org/cases-campaigns/current-cases/\"\u003eCurrent cases\u003c/a\u003e in which ALDF is involved\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLeanne Louie, \u003ca href=\"http://sciencewriters.ca/2014/07/18/toothed-whales-are-they-people-too/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eToothed Whales: Are They People Too\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThomas Martin, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2129582\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhaling Rights of the Makah\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (see also, via HeinOnline, Lawrence Watters and Connie Dugger, \u003ca href=\"http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/cjel22\u0026amp;div=12\u0026amp;id=\u0026amp;page=\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHunt for Gray Whales: The Dilemma of Native American Treaty Rights and the International Moratorium on Whaling\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eManeesha Deckha, \u003ca href=\"http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/janilet2\u0026amp;div=9\u0026amp;id=\u0026amp;page=\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAnimal Justice, Cultural Justice: A Posthumanist Response to Cultural Rights in Animals\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Hein only) and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2246186\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInitiating a Non-Anthropocentric Jurisprudence\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.nonhumanrightsproject.org/steve-wise/\"\u003eSteven Wise’s\u003c/a\u003e \u003ca href=\"http://www.nonhumanrightsproject.org/2014/09/12/appeals-court-sets-date-for-first-chimpanzee-lawsuit/\"\u003eNonhuman Rights Project\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Mountain, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nonhumanrightsproject.org/2014/09/12/appeals-court-sets-date-for-first-chimpanzee-lawsuit/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAppeals Court Sets Date for First Chimpanzee Lawsuit\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15417249624067275504\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSierra Club v. Morton\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, in which Justice Douglas would find legal standing in the natural world itself (and citing Christopher Stone, \u003ca href=\"http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/scal45\u0026amp;div=17\u0026amp;id=\u0026amp;page=\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShould Trees Have Standing? Toward Legal Rights for Natural Objects\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSue Donaldson and Will Kymlicka, \u003ca href=\"http://books.google.com/books?hl=en\u0026amp;lr=\u0026amp;id=LLE3UEe5LMoC\u0026amp;oi=fnd\u0026amp;pg=PP2\u0026amp;ots=nsT8IeQM33\u0026amp;sig=3O6GGYLrPqko69Phmt-GXS-6OOY#v=onepage\u0026amp;q\u0026amp;f=false\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eZoopolis: A Political Theory of Animal Rights\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (also see an \u003ca href=\"http://www.academia.edu/2394382/Sue_Donaldson_and_Will_Kymlicka_Zoopolis_A_Political_Theory_of_Animal_Rights_An_Overview_\"\u003eoverview by the authors\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/other-minds/\"\u003ethe other mind problem\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_ethology\"\u003ecognitive ethology\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cognition\"\u003eanimal cognition\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBen Beaumont-Thomas, \u003ca href=\"http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/aug/14/seaworld-shares-blackfish-documentary\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSeaWorld shares tumble 33% following Blackfish documentary\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=18198553064671291100\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTilikum v. Sea World Parks and Entertainment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the 13th Amendment case brought on behalf of Sea World’s orcas\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7908598216119909722\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmerican Meat Institute v. USDA\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Matthew Liebman.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On animal law, with Matthew Liebman.","date_published":"2014-09-20T10:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/deef44fe-7993-44ca-a999-215bdc4e4517.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":49612932,"duration_in_seconds":6051}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5413bf1ee4b077167a51efd6","title":"Episode 32: Go Figure","url":"https://oralargument.org/32","content_text":"We’re back with knees and gay marriage. And constitutional scholar Lori Ringhand. In the battle between recliners and knee defenders, Joe tells us the real enemy is the airline who has sold the same space twice. Somehow nose-punching, rapid window shade flipping, and the high arctic figure into the discussion. Turning to Judge Posner’s smackdown of midwestern marriage bans, we start with style: is there such a thing as too much smack? Then we turn to the really interesting bit, Posner’s reimagining of judicial scrutiny of discrimination. Also: speed traps.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nLori Ringhand’s faculty profile, books, and articles\nEpisode 31: Knee Defender, in which we first spoke of the airplane seat reclining controversy\nNeil Buchanan, Airplane Seatbacks, the Coase Theorem, and Simplistic Solutions to Difficult Questions\nJosh Barro, Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me\nKatia Hetter, Seat Recline Fight Diverts Another Flight\nBaskin v. Bogan, Judge Posner’s opinion for the Seventh Circuit striking down marriage bans in Indiana and Wisconsin\nRobicheaux v. Caldwell, Judge Feldman’s opinion upholding Louisiana’s marriage ban\nMark Joseph Stern, Judge Posner’s Gay Marriage Opinion Is a Witty, Deeply Moral Masterpiece\nChristian Turner, 404: Argument Not Found\nBrown v. Board of Education\nWhat Brown v. Board of Education Should Have Said, Jack Balkin ed.\nEpisode 30: A Filled Milk Caste, in which we discuss United States v. Carolene Products\nWindsor v. United States (the Second Circuit opinion that led to the Supreme Court case) and SmithKline Beecham Corp. v. Abbott Laboratories (a Ninth Circuit case), each deciding to apply heightened scrutiny to discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation\nRomer v. Evans, nominally using the deferential rational basis standard to strike down a state’s constitutional prohibition on any governmental efforts to protect gays from discrimination \nSpecial Guest: Lori Ringhand.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe’re back with knees and gay marriage. And constitutional scholar Lori Ringhand. In the battle between recliners and knee defenders, Joe tells us the real enemy is the airline who has sold the same space twice. Somehow nose-punching, rapid window shade flipping, and the high arctic figure into the discussion. Turning to Judge Posner’s smackdown of midwestern marriage bans, we start with style: is there such a thing as too much smack? Then we turn to the really interesting bit, Posner’s reimagining of judicial scrutiny of discrimination. Also: speed traps.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLori Ringhand’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/lori-ringhand\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Lori-A.-Ringhand/e/B00C0O4RTE/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_2\"\u003ebooks\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=332414\"\u003earticles\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/31\"\u003eEpisode 31: Knee Defender\u003c/a\u003e, in which we first spoke of the airplane seat reclining controversy\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNeil Buchanan, \u003ca href=\"http://verdict.justia.com/2014/09/11/airplane-seatbacks-coase-theorem-simplistic-solutions-difficult-questions\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAirplane Seatbacks, the Coase Theorem, and Simplistic Solutions to Difficult Questions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Barro, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/upshot/dont-want-me-to-recline-my-airline-seat-you-can-pay-me.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDon’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKatia Hetter, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/02/travel/airline-seat-recline-diversion/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSeat Recline Fight Diverts Another Flight\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17115587439154811848\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBaskin v. Bogan\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, Judge Posner’s opinion for the Seventh Circuit striking down marriage bans in Indiana and Wisconsin\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8069512065421634294\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRobicheaux v. Caldwell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, Judge Feldman’s opinion upholding Louisiana’s marriage ban\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Joseph Stern, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/09/05/judge_richard_posner_s_gay_marriage_opinion_is_witty_moral_and_brilliant.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eJudge Posner’s Gay Marriage Opinion Is a Witty, Deeply Moral Masterpiece\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/8/28/404-argument-not-found\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e404: Argument Not Found\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12120372216939101759\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBrown v. Board of Education\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/What-Brown-Board-Education-Should/dp/081479890X\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat\u003c/em\u003e Brown v. Board of Education \u003cem\u003eShould Have Said\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, Jack Balkin ed.\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/30\"\u003eEpisode 30: A Filled Milk Caste\u003c/a\u003e, in which we discuss \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1808251577400430843\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Carolene Products\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5683321878140390719\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWindsor v. United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the Second Circuit opinion that led to the Supreme Court case) and \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8554550252932558551\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSmithKline Beecham Corp. v. Abbott Laboratories\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a Ninth Circuit case), each deciding to apply heightened scrutiny to discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17758055891258118781\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRomer v. Evans\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, nominally using the deferential rational basis standard to strike down a state’s constitutional prohibition on any governmental efforts to protect gays from discrimination \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Lori Ringhand.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The one with Lori Ringhand.","date_published":"2014-09-13T00:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/8ef508a9-f63e-462b-9dfa-954bd7d5e884.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":44358078,"duration_in_seconds":5394}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:54007e81e4b0c1979a264c18","title":"Episode 31: Knee Defender","url":"https://oralargument.org/31","content_text":"Our labor day episode, in which we discuss: Judge Posner’s castigation of state attorneys in gay marriage cases, professionalism (shiver) and politeness, the knee defender and recliners, airplane boarding and luggage retrieval, the exciting new adventures of the Town of Greece, satanists, and contempt of cop.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSeventh Circuit arguments in Baskin v. Bogan and Wolf v. Walker\nChristian Turner, 404: Argument Not Found\nPaul Ford, How to Be Polite\nAbout the duty to rescue\nPaul Bloom, Against Empathy in the Boston Review, with respondents\nRichard Greenstein, Against Professionalism\nThe Knee Defender \nAP, Plane Diverted as Passengers Fight over Seat Reclining\nCBC News, Fired RIM Execs “Chewed Through Restraints” on Flight\nJosh Barro, Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me\nAbout the so-called Coase Theorem\nStanley Coren, Is It Safe to Ship Dogs or Cats by Air?\nAbout boarding patterns on airplanes\nDahlia Lithwick, Checking In on the Town of Greece\nEpisode 19: The Prayer Abides (guest Nathan Chapman), discussing the Town of Greece case\nAbout the Streisand effect\nJack Jenkins, How Satanists Are Testing The Limits Of Religious Freedom In Oklahoma\nSwartz v. Insogna\nAbout contempt of cop\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eOur labor day episode, in which we discuss: Judge Posner’s castigation of state attorneys in gay marriage cases, professionalism (shiver) and politeness, the knee defender and recliners, airplane boarding and luggage retrieval, the exciting new adventures of the Town of Greece, satanists, and contempt of cop.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSeventh Circuit arguments in \u003ca href=\"http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/rt.1.14-2386_08_26_2014.mp3\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBaskin v. Bogan\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/rt.2.14-2526_08_26_2014.mp3\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWolf v. Walker\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/8/28/404-argument-not-found\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e404: Argument Not Found\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Ford, \u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/message/how-to-be-polite-9bf1e69e888c\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow to Be Polite\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue\"\u003ethe duty to rescue\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Bloom, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bostonreview.net/forum/paul-bloom-against-empathy\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAgainst Empathy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e in the Boston Review, with respondents\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Greenstein, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1340094\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAgainst Professionalism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.kneedefender.com/goods/kneedefender.html\"\u003eThe Knee Defender\u003c/a\u003e \u003cimg src=\"http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/02/07/business/flier.184.jpg\" alt=\"Image\" title=\"\" /\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAP, \u003ca href=\"http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/aug/26/plane-diverted-as-passengers-fight-over-seat-reclining\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlane Diverted as Passengers Fight over Seat Reclining\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCBC News, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/fired-rim-execs-chewed-through-restraints-on-flight-1.992829\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFired RIM Execs “Chewed Through Restraints” on Flight\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Barro, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/upshot/dont-want-me-to-recline-my-airline-seat-you-can-pay-me.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDon’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the so-called \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coase_theorem\"\u003eCoase Theorem\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStanley Coren, \u003ca href=\"http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201209/is-it-safe-ship-dogs-or-cats-air\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs It Safe to Ship Dogs or Cats by Air?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boarding_(transport)#Boarding_patterns_and_efficiency\"\u003eboarding patterns on airplanes\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/08/the_town_of_greece_s_new_prayer_policy_atheists_need_not_apply.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChecking In on the Town of Greece\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/19\"\u003eEpisode 19: The Prayer Abides (guest Nathan Chapman)\u003c/a\u003e, discussing the \u003cem\u003eTown of Greece\u003c/em\u003e case\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect\"\u003eStreisand effect\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJack Jenkins, \u003ca href=\"http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/08/23/3474837/oklahoma-catholics-and-satanists/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow Satanists Are Testing The Limits Of Religious Freedom In Oklahoma\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6523478197831967865\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSwartz v. Insogna\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_cop\"\u003econtempt of cop\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The labor day weekend episode: gay marriage, knee defender, satanists.","date_published":"2014-08-29T09:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/c6cbf7a5-294a-4759-9f7c-8469c55fa6a7.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40446954,"duration_in_seconds":4905}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:53f8f9abe4b0f0d1ac125121","title":"Episode 30: A Filled Milk Caste","url":"https://oralargument.org/30","content_text":"Joe’s favorites case(s) part deux, Carolene Products, the filled milk case to end all filled milk cases. We talk about a case most famous for its fourth footnote. That’s right. This episode, alongside volumes upon volumes of legal scholarship, is almost entirely concerned with a footnote. But this one almost casually suggests a principle to divide the power of the federal government between courts and the political branches. Bonus content: an idea about returning to school later in life and follow-up on the monkey selfie.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nEpisode 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe, including discussion of the first of Joe’s favorite cases and our discussion of the case of the monkey selfie\nDraft Compendium of U.S. Copyright Practices, including at page 54 of the linked manual: “The Office will not register works produced by nature, animals, or plants. ... Examples: A photograph taken by a monkey.”\nUnited States v. Carolene Products Co.\nHebe Co. v. Shaw\nAbout filled milk\nJosh Blackman, 60 New Recipes for Carolene Products Co.’s Milnut from 1939\nLochner v. New York\nFederal Baseball Club of Baltimore, Inc. v. National League of Professional Baseball Clubs\nWickard v. Filburn\nLetter from Justice Robert H. Jackson to Chief Justice Harlan F. Stone on Wickard v. Filburn\nJackson’s thoughts on the Wickard problem were put down most candidly in a memo to his law clerk (Robert Jackson, Memorandum for Mr. Costelloe, Re: Wickard Case 15 (July 10, 1942) (on file with the Library of Congress, Jackson MSS, Box 125). Perhaps you’ll have better luck finding this online than we did. It is described in many of the many, many articles about the famous footnote.\nDavid Strauss, Does the Constitution Always Mean What It Says?, video of a terrific lecture\nThe text of foonote four\nLouis Lusky, Footnote Redux: A Carolene Products Reminiscence (note: Joe misspoke. Lusky was a Columbia, not Yale, prof.)\nEpisode 27: My Favorite Case on Plessy v. Ferguson\nLincoln Caplan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Footnote Four, which concerns this appearance by Justice Ginsburg at which she discusses Footnote Four and affirmative action (just after minute 36)\nDavid Strauss, Is Carolene Products Obsolete?\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe’s favorites case(s) part deux, \u003cem\u003eCarolene Products\u003c/em\u003e, the filled milk case to end all filled milk cases. We talk about a case most famous for its fourth footnote. That’s right. This episode, alongside volumes upon volumes of legal scholarship, is almost entirely concerned with a footnote. But this one almost casually suggests a principle to divide the power of the federal government between courts and the political branches. Bonus content: an idea about returning to school later in life and follow-up on the monkey selfie.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/28\"\u003eEpisode 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe\u003c/a\u003e, including discussion of the first of Joe’s favorite cases and our discussion of the case of the monkey selfie\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://copyright.gov/comp3/\"\u003eDraft Compendium of U.S. Copyright Practices\u003c/a\u003e, including at page 54 of the linked manual: “The Office will not register works produced by nature, animals, or plants. ... Examples: A photograph taken by a monkey.”\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1808251577400430843\u0026amp;hl=en\u0026amp;as_sdt=80006\u0026amp;scilh=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Carolene Products Co.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10670628591345981731\u0026amp;hl=en\u0026amp;as_sdt=80006\u0026amp;scilh=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHebe Co. v. Shaw\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filled_milk\"\u003eAbout filled milk\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Blackman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2011/07/60-new-recipes-for-carolene-products-co-s-milnut-from-1939.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e60 New Recipes for Carolene Products Co.’s Milnut from 1939\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10760991087928264675\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLochner v. New York\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5457794249908053604\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFederal Baseball Club of Baltimore, Inc. v. National League of Professional Baseball Clubs\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17396018701671434685\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWickard v. Filburn\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.sechistorical.org/collection/papers/1940/1942_0525_JacksonWickard.pdf\"\u003eLetter from Justice Robert H. Jackson to Chief Justice Harlan F. Stone on \u003cem\u003eWickard v. Filburn\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJackson’s thoughts on the \u003cem\u003eWickard\u003c/em\u003e problem were put down most candidly in a memo to his law clerk (Robert Jackson, Memorandum for Mr. Costelloe, Re: \u003cem\u003eWickard\u003c/em\u003e Case 15 (July 10, 1942) (on file with the Library of Congress, Jackson MSS, Box 125). Perhaps you’ll have better luck finding this online than we did. It is described in many of the many, many articles about the famous footnote.\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Strauss, \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uchicago.edu/video/strauss022614\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDoes the Constitution Always Mean What It Says?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, video of a terrific lecture\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Carolene_Products_Co.#Text_of_Footnote_Four\"\u003eThe text of foonote four\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLouis Lusky, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/1122160\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFootnote Redux: A\u003c/em\u003e Carolene Products \u003cem\u003eReminiscence\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (note: Joe misspoke. Lusky was a Columbia, not Yale, prof.)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/27\"\u003eEpisode 27: My Favorite Case\u003c/a\u003e on \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16038751515555215717\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlessy v. Ferguson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLincoln Caplan, \u003ca href=\"http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/ruth-bader-ginsburg-and-footnote-four\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRuth Bader Ginsburg and Footnote Four\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, which concerns \u003ca href=\"http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Rulingsa\"\u003ethis appearance by Justice Ginsburg\u003c/a\u003e at which she discusses Footnote Four and affirmative action (just after minute 36)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Strauss, \u003ca href=\"http://illinoislawreview.org/wp-content/ilr-content/articles/2010/4/Strauss.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIs\u003c/em\u003e Carolene Products \u003cem\u003eObsolete?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Joe's favorite case(s) part deux.","date_published":"2014-08-23T16:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/fe6a3d52-8e70-4148-b4f3-4dc5fa873d43.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":47258955,"duration_in_seconds":5757}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:53ee0cf7e4b0439bf8d144ee","title":"Episode 29: Alpha Dog","url":"https://oralargument.org/29","content_text":"It’s our back to school episode. We pick up in the middle of a conversation about the order of the months of the calendar and then turn to our main topic: how to teach law. With Mehrsa Baradaran we delve into why classes might turn on you, how to manage the awkward student-teacher relationship, and presumptions of competence and incompetence. We dig into Mehrsa’s Teaching While Woman blog post and all our experiences with privileges, failures, and successes. First names, last names, cold-calling? Authenticity, professionalism, and, obviously, nudist colonies. Also: Mehrsa’s aspiration to be the Postmaster General and Joe’s to be, somehow, a “Lord High Chancellor.\"\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMehrsa Baradaran’s faculty profile and last appearance on Oral Argument\nThe Solar Hijra calendar and the Islamic calendar\nMehrsa Baradaran, Teaching While Woman\nLyrissa Lidsky, Ten (okay, Nineteen) Tips for New Law Professors\nJodi Kantor, Harvard Business School Case Study: Gender Equity\nWikipedia on Implicit association testing\nProject Implicit\nPaul Ford, How to Be Polite\nChristian’s imagined monocle-based approach to formality in the classroom: \nThe Postmaster General and Executive Leadership Team (note: The current Postmaster General is Patrick Donahoe.)\nAbout the office of the Postmaster General (including information concerning the first Postmaster General, no spoilers, but…)\nSpecial Guest: Mehrsa Baradaran.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIt’s our back to school episode. We pick up in the middle of a conversation about the order of the months of the calendar and then turn to our main topic: how to teach law. With Mehrsa Baradaran we delve into why classes might turn on you, how to manage the awkward student-teacher relationship, and presumptions of competence and incompetence. We dig into Mehrsa’s \u003cem\u003eTeaching While Woman\u003c/em\u003e blog post and all our experiences with privileges, failures, and successes. First names, last names, cold-calling? Authenticity, professionalism, and, obviously, nudist colonies. Also: Mehrsa’s aspiration to be the Postmaster General and Joe’s to be, somehow, a “Lord High Chancellor.\"\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMehrsa Baradaran’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/mehrsa-baradaran\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/9\"\u003elast appearance\u003c/a\u003e on Oral Argument\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Hijri_calendar\"\u003eSolar Hijra calendar\u003c/a\u003e and the \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar#Year_numbering\"\u003eIslamic calendar\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMehrsa Baradaran, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2014/03/teaching-while-woman.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTeaching While Woman\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLyrissa Lidsky, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2011/08/ten-tips-for-new-law-teachers.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTen (okay, Nineteen) Tips for New Law Professors\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJodi Kantor, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/education/harvard-case-study-gender-equity.html?pagewanted=all)\u0026amp;_r=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHarvard Business School Case Study: Gender Equity\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWikipedia on \u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_Association_Test\"\u003eImplicit association testing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/\"\u003eProject Implicit\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Ford, \u003ca href=\"https://medium.com/message/how-to-be-polite-9bf1e69e888c\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow to Be Polite\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian’s imagined monocle-based approach to formality in the classroom: \u003cimg src=\"http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Chamberlain.jpg/220px-Chamberlain.jpg\" alt=\"monocle-wearer, Joseph Chamberlain\" title=\"\" /\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://about.usps.com/who-we-are/leadership/pmg-exec-comm.htm#p=1\"\u003eThe Postmaster General and Executive Leadership Team\u003c/a\u003e (note: The current Postmaster General is Patrick Donahoe.)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postmaster_General\"\u003eAbout the office of the Postmaster General\u003c/a\u003e (including information concerning the first Postmaster General, no spoilers, but…)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Mehrsa Baradaran.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Back to school, with Mehrsa Baradaran.","date_published":"2014-08-15T09:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/dc5aa1e8-e7e9-4b08-8433-745c380cd309.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37831249,"duration_in_seconds":4578}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:53e53e68e4b021a99e4dd657","title":"Episode 28: A Wonderful Catastrophe","url":"https://oralargument.org/28","content_text":"Now we turn to Joe’s favorite case(s). And monkey selfies. First, some great listener feedback, and Joe’s argument that feedback should be at the end of the show. Then we dive into Erie, the first of two cases decided on April 25, 1938 that together are his favorite case(s). A man injured by an errant door on a passing train brings the case that fundamentally transforms the federal judiciary. Justice Brandeis transcends transcendental nonsense to recognize that courts make common law rather than discover it and thereby gives up power in a move Joe likens to George Washington declining to seek a third term. We close with a discussion of why no one “owns” the now-famous and delightful monkey selfie.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nOvercast, the newest podcast app on the block\nEpisode 8: Party All over the World\nChristian Turner, Leveling Up\nEd Cray, Chief Justice: A Biography of Earl Warren (and here’s a review)\nEpisode 27: My Favorite Case\nAbout the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms\nErie Railroad Co. v. Tompkins\nUnited States v. Carolene Products\nSwift v. Tyson\nBlack and White Taxicab and Transfer Co. v. Brown and Yellow Taxicab and Transfer Co. (Holmes: “The fallacy and illusion that I think exist consist in supposing that there is this outside thing to be found. Law is a word used with different meanings, but law in the sense in which courts speak of it today does not exist without some definite authority behind it.”)\nThe monkey selfie:  (go here to see the image if it doesn’t appear in your podcast client)\nMike Masonic, How That Monkey Selfie Reveals The Dangerous Belief That Every Bit Of Culture Must Be 'Owned'\nAnnemarie Bridy, Coding Creativity: Copyright and the Artificially Intelligent Author\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eNow we turn to Joe’s favorite case(s). And monkey selfies. First, some great listener feedback, and Joe’s argument that feedback should be at the end of the show. Then we dive into \u003cem\u003eErie\u003c/em\u003e, the first of two cases decided on April 25, 1938 that together are his favorite case(s). A man injured by an errant door on a passing train brings the case that fundamentally transforms the federal judiciary. Justice Brandeis transcends transcendental nonsense to recognize that courts make common law rather than discover it and thereby gives up power in a move Joe likens to George Washington declining to seek a third term. We close with a discussion of why no one “owns” the now-famous and delightful monkey selfie.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://overcast.fm\"\u003eOvercast\u003c/a\u003e, the newest podcast app on the block\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/8\"\u003eEpisode 8: \u003cem\u003eParty All over the World\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/7/25/leveling-up\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLeveling Up\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEd Cray, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Chief-Justice-Biography-Earl-Warren/dp/1439154910/ref=la_B000APV6W6_1_3?s=books\u0026amp;ie=UTF8\u0026amp;qid=1407526868\u0026amp;sr=1-3\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChief Justice: A Biography of Earl Warren\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (and here’s a \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/05/books/decisions-decisions-life-in-court.html\"\u003ereview\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/27\"\u003eEpisode 27: \u003cem\u003eMy Favorite Case\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms\"\u003eAbout the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?hl=en\u0026amp;as_sdt=80006\u0026amp;case=4671607337309792720\u0026amp;scilh=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eErie Railroad Co. v. Tompkins\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1808251577400430843\u0026amp;hl=en\u0026amp;as_sdt=80006\u0026amp;scilh=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Carolene Products\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2381951342107081037\u0026amp;hl=en\u0026amp;as_sdt=80006\u0026amp;scilh=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSwift v. Tyson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7700472232055727280\u0026amp;hl=en\u0026amp;as_sdt=80006\u0026amp;scilh=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBlack and White Taxicab and Transfer Co. v. Brown and Yellow Taxicab and Transfer Co.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Holmes: “The fallacy and illusion that I think exist consist in supposing that there is this outside thing to be found. Law is a word used with different meanings, but law in the sense in which courts speak of it today does not exist without some definite authority behind it.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe monkey selfie: \u003cimg src=\"https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Macaca_nigra_self-portrait_%28rotated_and_cropped%29.jpg/160px-Macaca_nigra_self-portrait_%28rotated_and_cropped%29.jpg\" alt=\"The Selfie\" title=\"\" /\u003e (go \u003ca href=\"https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:Macaca_nigra_self-portrait_%28rotated_and_cropped%29.jpg#File:Macaca_nigra_self-portrait_.28rotated_and_cropped.29.jpg\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e to see the image if it doesn’t appear in your podcast client)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMike Masonic, \u003ca href=\"https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140806/17560928134/how-that-monkey-selfie-reveals-dangerous-belief-that-every-bit-culture-must-be-owned.shtml\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow That Monkey Selfie Reveals The Dangerous Belief That Every Bit Of Culture Must Be 'Owned'\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAnnemarie Bridy, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1888622\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCoding Creativity: Copyright and the Artificially Intelligent Author\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Joe's favorite case(s).","date_published":"2014-08-08T17:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/eeaeb719-b0cb-47ff-854f-251b9c40dcc4.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45285355,"duration_in_seconds":5510}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:53ca6ba7e4b06d1cfa9cb41d","title":"Episode 27: My Favorite Case","url":"https://oralargument.org/27","content_text":"What’s your favorite case? It’s a difficult question, but in this episode Christian answers it: the infamous decision in Plessy v. Ferguson that upheld racial apartheid under the “separate but equal” principle. Joe accuses him of cheating a bit, because Christian’s “favorite” is actually Justice Harlan’s celebrated solo dissent. Its greatness, though, does not lie in any sort of perfection. Severely flawed and yet great, at the same time.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nPlessy v. Ferguson, which you should scan through as bit, as recommended during the show\nSome background here and here on Homer Plessy and his act of civil disobedience\nHenry Louis Gates, Jr., Plessy v. Ferguson: Who Was Plessy?\nJustice Souter’s discussion of Plessy and the role of history in judging (watch from minute one until about minute fourteen) and his Harvard Commencement speech on Plessy\nUnited States v. Wong Kim Ark, in which Harlan joined a dissent arguing that those children of Chinese citizens who are born in the United States should not receive citizenship; see here for a summary\nGabriel Chin, The Plessy Myth: Justice Harlan and the Chinese Cases\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhat’s your favorite case? It’s a difficult question, but in this episode Christian answers it: the infamous decision in \u003cem\u003ePlessy v. Ferguson\u003c/em\u003e that upheld racial apartheid under the “separate but equal” principle. Joe accuses him of cheating a bit, because Christian’s “favorite” is actually Justice Harlan’s celebrated solo dissent. Its greatness, though, does not lie in any sort of perfection. Severely flawed and yet great, at the same time.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16038751515555215717\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlessy v. Ferguson\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, which you should scan through as bit, as recommended during the show\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSome background \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer_Plessy\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plessy_v._Ferguson\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e on Homer Plessy and his act of civil disobedience\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eHenry Louis Gates, Jr., \u003ca href=\"http://www.theroot.com/articles/history/2013/06/plessy_v_ferguson_who_was_homer_plessy.html\"\u003ePlessy v. Ferguson: \u003cem\u003eWho Was Plessy?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJustice Souter’s discussion of \u003ca href=\"http://www.c-span.org/video/?284498-2/america-courts\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePlessy\u003c/em\u003e and the role of history in judging\u003c/a\u003e (watch from minute one until about minute fourteen) and his \u003ca href=\"http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2010/05/text-of-justice-david-souters-speech/\"\u003eHarvard Commencement speech\u003c/a\u003e on \u003cem\u003ePlessy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3381955771263111765\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Wong Kim Ark\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, in which Harlan joined a dissent arguing that those children of Chinese citizens who are born in the United States should not receive citizenship; \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark#Dissent\"\u003esee here\u003c/a\u003e for a summary\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGabriel Chin, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1121505\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Plessy Myth: Justice Harlan and the Chinese Cases\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Christian's favorite case.","date_published":"2014-07-19T09:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/dca43556-a122-4bd8-839a-e97f70ac986e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":43775682,"duration_in_seconds":5321}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:53bfc8fde4b0a68e9524d921","title":"Episode 26: Form 700","url":"https://oralargument.org/26","content_text":"We are joined by budding media celebrity, Sonja West, who got her start on Episode 1 of Oral Argument. We again turn to the Hobby Lobby decision and the Supreme Court’s odd epilogue. With Sonja’s expert guidance we try to make sense of the web of religious liberty. Also, war on women or the century of gender equality?\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSonja West’s faculty profile and writing\nOral Argument 1: Send Joe to Prison, guest Sonja West\nSonja West’s appearance on MSNBC’s The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell\nBurwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores\nThe full but brief text of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act\nOral Argument 25: Normal Religions, in which we first discussed and set out the basics of the Hobby Lobby decision\nWheaton College v. Burwell, granting a temporary injunction pending full appellate review\nWheaton College, the one in Illinois, and its Statement of Faith and Educational Purpose\nForm 700\nDahlia Lithwick and Sonja West, Quick Change Justice: While You Were Sleeping, Hobby Lobby Just Got So Much Worse\nMarty Lederman, What Next in Wheaton College? Is It Also a “Win/Win” Compromise?\nUniversity of Notre Dame v. Sebelius, Posner’s Seventh Circuit opinion on  Notre Dame’s objections to filling out Form 700\nMichael Dorf, Hobby Lobby Post-Mortem Part 2: The Wheaton College Stay\nReprieve, Gitmo Detainees Demand Same Religious Rights as Hobby Lobby\nEmployment Division v. Smith, the case that launched RFRA\nBoy Scouts of America v. Dale\nDahlia Lithwick, After Hobby Lobby, Dahlia’s analysis of the gender divide evident in and exacerbated by the Supreme Court’s end-of-term decisions (posted after we recorded)\nSpecial Guest: Sonja West.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe are joined by budding media celebrity, Sonja West, who got her start on Episode 1 of Oral Argument. We again turn to the \u003cem\u003eHobby Lobby\u003c/em\u003e decision and the Supreme Court’s odd epilogue. With Sonja’s expert guidance we try to make sense of the web of religious liberty. Also, war on women or the century of gender equality?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSonja West’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/sonja-r-west\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=518870\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://oralargument.org/1\"\u003eOral Argument 1: Send Joe to Prison\u003c/a\u003e, guest Sonja West\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/rush-limbaugh-hobby-lobby-and-sonia-sotomayor-298995779949\"\u003eSonja West’s appearance\u003c/a\u003e on MSNBC’s \u003cem\u003eThe Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBurwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/RFRA1993.html\"\u003efull but brief text\u003c/a\u003e of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/25\"\u003eOral Argument 25: Normal Religions\u003c/a\u003e, in which we first discussed and set out the basics of the \u003cem\u003eHobby Lobby\u003c/em\u003e decision\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13a1284_ap6c.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWheaton College v. Burwell\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, granting a temporary injunction pending full appellate review\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://wheaton.edu\"\u003eWheaton College\u003c/a\u003e, the one in Illinois, and its \u003ca href=\"http://wheaton.edu/About-Wheaton/Statement-of-Faith-and-Educational-Purpose\"\u003eStatement of Faith and Educational Purpose\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/pdf/preventiveserviceseligibleorganizationcertificationform.pdf\"\u003eForm 700\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick and Sonja West, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/07/wheaton_college_injunction_the_supreme_court_just_sneakily_reversed_itself.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eQuick Change Justice: While You Were Sleeping,\u003c/em\u003e Hobby Lobby \u003cem\u003eJust Got So Much Worse\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMarty Lederman, \u003ca href=\"http://balkin.blogspot.com/2014/07/what-next-in-wheaton-college-is-it-also.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Next in\u003c/em\u003e Wheaton College\u003cem\u003e? Is It Also a “Win/Win” Compromise?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9288859216278216116\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUniversity of Notre Dame v. Sebelius\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, Posner’s Seventh Circuit opinion on  Notre Dame’s objections to filling out Form 700\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael Dorf, \u003ca href=\"http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2014/07/hobby-lobby-post-mortem-part-2-wheaton.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHobby Lobby Post-Mortem Part 2: The Wheaton College Stay\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eReprieve, \u003ca href=\"http://www.reprieve.org.uk/press/2014_07_04_PUB_Gitmo_detainees_rights_hobby_lobby/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGitmo Detainees Demand Same Religious Rights as Hobby Lobby\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10098593029363815472\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEmployment Division v. Smith\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the case that launched RFRA\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6404209718401303437\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBoy Scouts of America v. Dale\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/07/after_hobby_lobby_mucullen_and_harris_v_quinn_the_men_of_the_supreme_court.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAfter\u003c/em\u003e Hobby Lobby\u003c/a\u003e, Dahlia’s analysis of the gender divide evident in and exacerbated by the Supreme Court’s end-of-term decisions (posted after we recorded)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Sonja West.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Sonja West and Hobby Lobby return.","date_published":"2014-07-11T07:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/f21a0ca7-834c-4da1-93e4-9ee664fc27c0.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":41100744,"duration_in_seconds":4987}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:53b6adb9e4b08ad83703dfad","title":"Episode 25: Normal Religions","url":"https://oralargument.org/25","content_text":"This is our first annual Supreme Court term roundup. And in our first effort, we manage to discuss, more or less, a single case: Hobby Lobby.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nBurwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThis is our first annual Supreme Court term roundup. And in our first effort, we manage to discuss, more or less, a single case: \u003cem\u003eHobby Lobby\u003c/em\u003e.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBurwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The Hobby Lobby case.","date_published":"2014-07-04T10:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/4a184f79-dc3c-4083-9e7d-03470215e846.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":56020813,"duration_in_seconds":6852}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:53ade75be4b0ef701ed7fb6d","title":"Episode 24: Vacation from Competition","url":"https://oralargument.org/24","content_text":"We talk technology and law with Kevin Collins and begin with the law of the horse. The Supreme Court has given us decisions about searching cell phones, tiny antennae and broadcast television, and patents on business methods implemented in software. Molecules, hair-drying calculating machines, DNA, and the meaning of knowledge. It’s an IP festival this week.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nKevin Collins’ faculty profile and writing\nEdinburgh’s statue of Adam Smith, though not the photo taken by listener Barbara: \nRiley v. California, the cell phone search case, PDF and HTML\nFrank Easterbrook, Cyberspace and the Law of the Horse\nLawrence Lessig, The Law of the Horse: What Cyberlaw Might Teach\nChristian Turner, The Information Law Crisis\nSony Corp. v. Universal City Studios, Inc., the VCR case\nAmerican Broadcasting Cos. v. Aereo, PDF and HTML\nMike Masnick, Aereo Fallout Begins: Fox Uses Ruling To Attack Dish's Mobile Streaming Service\nSummary of the history of cable television in the U.S.\nAlice Corp. v. CLS Bank, PDF and HTML\nEpisode 3: Cut It Off (guest Paul Heald)\nO’Reilly v. Morse, the telegraph case\nNautilus v. Biosig Instruments, PDF and HTML\nAssociation for Molecular Pathology v. Myriad Genetics\nKevin Collins, The Knowledge/Embodiment Dichotomy\nKevin Collins, Bilski and the Ambiguity of 'An Unpatentable Abstract Idea’\nMichele Boldrin and David Levine, Against Intellectual Monopoly\nMichele Boldrin and David Levine, The Case Against Patents\nSpecial Guest: Kevin Collins.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk technology and law with Kevin Collins and begin with the law of the horse. The Supreme Court has given us decisions about searching cell phones, tiny antennae and broadcast television, and patents on business methods implemented in software. Molecules, hair-drying calculating machines, DNA, and the meaning of knowledge. It’s an IP festival this week.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKevin Collins’ \u003ca href=\"http://law.wustl.edu/faculty_profiles/profiles.aspx?id=7970\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=439678\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEdinburgh’s \u003ca href=\"http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Adam_Smith_statue.jpg\"\u003estatue of Adam Smith\u003c/a\u003e, though not the photo taken by listener Barbara: \u003cimg src=\"http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Adam_Smith_statue.jpg\" alt=\"image of Adam Smith\" title=\"\" /\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cem\u003eRiley v. California\u003c/em\u003e, the cell phone search case, \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-132_8l9c.pdf\"\u003ePDF\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www2.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/Riley_v_California_No_13132_and_13212_US_June_25_2014_Court_Opini\"\u003eHTML\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrank Easterbrook, \u003ca href=\"http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2147\u0026amp;context=journal_articles\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCyberspace and the Law of the Horse\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Lessig, \u003ca href=\"https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/works/lessig/finalhls.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Law of the Horse: What Cyberlaw Might Teach\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2014/1/6/the-information-law-crisis\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Information Law Crisis\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5876335373788447272\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSony Corp. v. Universal City Studios, Inc.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the VCR case\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmerican Broadcasting Cos. v. Aereo\u003c/em\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-461_l537.pdf\"\u003ePDF\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www2.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/Am_Broad_Cos_v_Aereo_Inc_No_13461_2014_BL_175778_US_June_25_2014_\"\u003eHTML\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMike Masnick, \u003ca href=\"https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140626/18375827694/aereo-fallout-begins-fox-uses-ruling-to-attack-dishs-mobile-streaming-service.shtml\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAereo Fallout Begins: Fox Uses Ruling To Attack Dish's Mobile Streaming Service\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_television_in_the_United_States#History\"\u003eSummary of the history\u003c/a\u003e of cable television in the U.S.\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cem\u003eAlice Corp. v. CLS Bank\u003c/em\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-298_7lh8.pdf\"\u003ePDF\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www2.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/Alice_Corp_v_CLS_Bank_Intl_No_13298_US_June_19_2014_Court_Opinion\"\u003eHTML\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/3\"\u003eEpisode 3: Cut It Off (guest Paul Heald)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2271286876963919117\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eO’Reilly v. Morse\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the telegraph case\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cem\u003eNautilus v. Biosig Instruments\u003c/em\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-369_1idf.pdf\"\u003ePDF\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www2.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/Nautilus_Inc_v_Biosig_Instruments_Inc_No_13369_2014_BL_151635_US_\"\u003eHTML\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=18430796342509149206\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAssociation for Molecular Pathology v. Myriad Genetics\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKevin Collins, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2428908\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Knowledge/Embodiment Dichotomy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKevin Collins, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1774922\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBilski and the Ambiguity of 'An Unpatentable Abstract Idea’\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichele Boldrin and David Levine, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Against-Intellectual-Monopoly-Michele-Boldrin/dp/0521127262\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAgainst Intellectual Monopoly\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichele Boldrin and David Levine, \u003ca href=\"http://research.stlouisfed.org/wp/2012/2012-035.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Case Against Patents\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Kevin Collins.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the Supreme Court's latest IP cases, with Kevin Collins.","date_published":"2014-06-27T18:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/d3b777d5-d44d-4a84-ba83-1b77bcc32090.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":49077873,"duration_in_seconds":5984}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:53a3a2f9e4b01ac00fa6c263","title":"Episode 23: Rex Sunstein","url":"https://oralargument.org/23","content_text":"We dive into the legal nature of the regulatory state with Ethan Leib of Fordham Law School. In what sense is the making of regulatory policy, whether on the environment or on net neutrality, a legal process? Should regulatory agencies adhere to precedent or otherwise be bound by law-like doctrines? We learn about the White House’s influence over rulemaking through OIRA and question how OIRA should function and what legal principles should govern it.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nEthan Leib’s faculty profile and articles\nThis Week in Law 263: More Bodies on Blackacre, on which Joe and Christian were guests\nNestor Davidson and Ethan Leib, Regleprudence - at OIRA and Beyond\nMark Tushnet, Legislative and Executive Stare Decisis\nThe nuclear option\nAbout OIRA, the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, and its resource page\nThe major executive orders concerning federal regulation and the role of OIRA\nThe repository of OIRA return letters\nCass Sunstein, The Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs: Myths and Realities\nCatherine Sharkey, State Farm 'with Teeth': Heightened Judicial Review in the Absence of Executive Oversight\nJulius Cohen, Towards Realism in Legisprudence and Legisprudence: Problems and Agenda\nLon Fuller, The Morality of Law\nCarol Rose, New Models for Local Land Use Decisions\nCass Sunstein’s memorandum for agency heads, Disclosure and Simplification as Regulatory Tools\nOffice of Management and Budget, Circular A-4\nPublic comments on the Obama administration’s proposal to revise the basic regulatory executive order (including comments from Martha Nussbaum, Eric Posner, Gillian Metzler, Richard Revesz, Michael Livermore, and Peter Strauss)\nEthan Leib and David Ponet, Fiduciary Representation and Deliberative Engagement with Children\nEvan Criddle, Fiduciary Administration: Rethinking Popular Representation in Agency Rulemaking\nSpecial Guest: Ethan Leib.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe dive into the legal nature of the regulatory state with Ethan Leib of Fordham Law School. In what sense is the making of regulatory policy, whether on the environment or on net neutrality, a legal process? Should regulatory agencies adhere to precedent or otherwise be bound by law-like doctrines? We learn about the White House’s influence over rulemaking through OIRA and question how OIRA should function and what legal principles should govern it.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEthan Leib’s \u003ca href=\"http://law.fordham.edu/faculty/ethanjleib.htm\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=344006\"\u003earticles\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://twit.tv/show/this-week-in-law/263\"\u003eThis Week in Law 263: More Bodies on Blackacre\u003c/a\u003e, on which Joe and Christian were guests\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNestor Davidson and Ethan Leib, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2442413\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRegleprudence - at OIRA and Beyond\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark Tushnet, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1258\u0026amp;context=ndlr\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegislative and Executive Stare Decisis\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option\"\u003enuclear option\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/inforeg_administrator\"\u003eAbout OIRA\u003c/a\u003e, the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, and its \u003ca href=\"http://www.reginfo.gov/public/jsp/Utilities/index.jsp\"\u003eresource page\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe major \u003ca href=\"http://www.reginfo.gov/public/jsp/Utilities/EO_Redirect.jsp\"\u003eexecutive orders\u003c/a\u003e concerning federal regulation and the role of OIRA\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eoReturnLetters\"\u003erepository of OIRA return letters\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCass Sunstein, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2192639\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs: Myths and Realities\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCatherine Sharkey, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2414734\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState Farm 'with Teeth': Heightened Judicial Review in the Absence of Executive Oversight\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJulius Cohen, \u003ca href=\"http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/ylr59\u0026amp;div=68\u0026amp;id=\u0026amp;page=\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTowards Realism in Legisprudence\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://scholarlycommons.law.hofstra.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1491\u0026amp;context=hlr\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegisprudence: Problems and Agenda\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_L._Fuller\"\u003eLon Fuller\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://books.google.com/books?id=5bC42qgnjmEC\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Morality of Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCarol Rose, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2828\u0026amp;context=fss_papers\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNew Models for Local Land Use Decisions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCass Sunstein’s memorandum for agency heads, \u003ca href=\"http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/inforeg/disclosure_principles.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDisclosure and Simplification as Regulatory Tools\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOffice of Management and Budget, \u003ca href=\"http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/circulars_a004_a-4\"\u003eCircular A-4\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.reginfo.gov/public/jsp/EO/fedRegReview/publicComments.jsp\"\u003ePublic comments\u003c/a\u003e on the Obama administration’s proposal to revise the basic regulatory executive order (including comments from Martha Nussbaum, Eric Posner, Gillian Metzler, Richard Revesz, Michael Livermore, and Peter Strauss)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEthan Leib and David Ponet, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2026913\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFiduciary Representation and Deliberative Engagement with Children\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEvan Criddle, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1371717\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFiduciary Administration: Rethinking Popular Representation in Agency Rulemaking\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Ethan Leib.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On \"regleprudence,\" with Ethan Leib.","date_published":"2014-06-19T23:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/7b359520-6869-4f5f-a299-da92bb8d65ac.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40482261,"duration_in_seconds":4910}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:539a4ab1e4b0821f813c74d7","title":"Episode 22: Nine Brains in a Vat","url":"https://oralargument.org/22","content_text":"We talk about the Supreme Court with writer and reporter, Dahlia Lithwick. How should one report on the Court, at a time when analysis of opinions is expected within hours or even minutes? What is the role of the Court press: middle men, translators, or something else? And come to think of it, what’s the role of the Supreme Court? Oracles, politicians, teachers? Should judges give speeches like politicians do? Politics, policy, religion, guns. And, of course, speed traps.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDahlia Lithwick’s latest articles on Slate\nAdam Smith, The Theory of Moral Sentiments (pdf) and wikipedia summary\nSlate Plus\nDerek Muller, The Five Law-Related Podcasts You Should Listen To\nJack Shafer, Serving up the Supreme Court Dough Before It’s Baked\nTom Goldstein, We’re Getting Wildly Different Assessments (a deep look into what went wrong with the reporting on the Obamacare decision)\nRonNell Andersen Jones, U.S. Supreme Court Justices and Press Access\nJesse Wegman, (Supreme) Court TV and the Magically Disappearing Protest\nKenneth Vogel, Defiant Clarence Thomas Fires Back\nVikram Amar, Why Did Justice Scalia Decline to Participate in the \"One Nation Under God\" Case?\nJack Balkin, ”High” Politics and Judicial Decisionmaking\nJustice Scalia’s memo on a recusal motion in Cheney v. United States District Court for the District of Columbia\nOral Argument Episode 6: Productive Thoughtlessness, in which we previously discussed Dahlia Lithwick\nPew Research Center, Political Polarization in the American Public\nEduardo Peñalver, Property as Entrance\nTown of Greece v. Galloway\nDahlia Lithwick, You Don’t See What I See\nOral Argument Episode 8: Party All Over the World, for some of our discussion on speed traps\nWaze app\nArtist Aaron Fein\nStatler and Waldorf: \nSpecial Guest: Dahlia Lithwick.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk about the Supreme Court with writer and reporter, Dahlia Lithwick. How should one report on the Court, at a time when analysis of opinions is expected within hours or even minutes? What is the role of the Court press: middle men, translators, or something else? And come to think of it, what’s the role of the Supreme Court? Oracles, politicians, teachers? Should judges give speeches like politicians do? Politics, policy, religion, guns. And, of course, speed traps.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/authors.dahlia_lithwick.html\"\u003eDahlia Lithwick’s latest articles\u003c/a\u003e on \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com\"\u003eSlate\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdam Smith, \u003ca href=\"http://www.earlymoderntexts.com/pdfs/smith1759.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Theory of Moral Sentiments\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (pdf) and \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_of_Moral_Sentiments\"\u003ewikipedia summary\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://secure.slate.com/plus/\"\u003eSlate Plus\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDerek Muller, \u003ca href=\"http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2014/5/the-five-law-related-podcasts-you-should-listen-to\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Five Law-Related Podcasts You Should Listen To\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJack Shafer, \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2012/06/28/serving-the-supreme-court-dough-before-its-baked/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eServing up the Supreme Court Dough Before It’s Baked\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTom Goldstein, \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/2012/07/were-getting-wildly-differing-assessments/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWe’re Getting Wildly Different Assessments\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (a deep look into what went wrong with the reporting on the Obamacare decision)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRonNell Andersen Jones, \u003ca href=\"http://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2694\u0026amp;context=lawreview\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eU.S. Supreme Court Justices and Press Access\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJesse Wegman, \u003ca href=\"http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/28/supreme-court-tv-and-the-magically-disappearing-protest/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e(Supreme) Court TV and the Magically Disappearing Protest\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKenneth Vogel, \u003ca href=\"http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/50277.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDefiant Clarence Thomas Fires Back\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eVikram Amar, \u003ca href=\"http://writ.news.findlaw.com/amar/20031031.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhy Did Justice Scalia Decline to Participate in the \"One Nation Under God\" Case?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJack Balkin, \u003ca href=\"http://balkin.blogspot.com/2003/05/high-politics-and-judicial.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e”High” Politics and Judicial Decisionmaking\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3663421335325675419\"\u003eJustice Scalia’s memo\u003c/a\u003e on a recusal motion in \u003cem\u003eCheney v. United States District Court for the District of Columbia\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/6\"\u003eOral Argument Episode 6: Productive Thoughtlessness\u003c/a\u003e, in which we previously discussed Dahlia Lithwick\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePew Research Center, \u003ca href=\"http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/12/political-polarization-in-the-american-public/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePolitical Polarization in the American Public\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEduardo Peñalver, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=705282\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eProperty as Entrance\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7055152929494104645\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTown of Greece v. Galloway\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/05/supreme_court_justices_call_each_other_blind_here_s_what_they_can_t_see.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eYou Don’t See What I See\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/8\"\u003eOral Argument Episode 8: Party All Over the World\u003c/a\u003e, for some of our discussion on speed traps\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.waze.com\"\u003eWaze\u003c/a\u003e app\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eArtist \u003ca href=\"http://www.aaronfein.com\"\u003eAaron Fein\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Statler_and_Waldorf\"\u003eStatler and Waldorf\u003c/a\u003e: \u003cimg src=\"http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110325180958/muppet/images/thumb/3/3d/TMS-Statler%26Waldorf-BalconyBox.jpg/300px-TMS-Statler%26Waldorf-BalconyBox.jpg\" alt=\"Statler and Waldorf\" title=\"\" /\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Dahlia Lithwick.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On the Supreme Court, with Dahlia Lithwick.","date_published":"2014-06-12T21:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/0a508714-83b6-475e-877b-6805e7c1ff03.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45772818,"duration_in_seconds":5571}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:53923853e4b045b0b0435916","title":"Episode 21: Kind of a Hellscape","url":"https://oralargument.org/21","content_text":"We talk about the relatively simple problem of global climate change with Brigham Daniels. Starting with EPA’s just-proposed regulations, we discuss the very odd way that U.S. law has confronted the problem. Why has it become a partisan issue and how do we overcome that? Are economic signals enough or must ethics change and tribal alliances break down? How might that happen? Darcy and a special canine guest make brief appearances.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nBrigham Daniels’ faculty profile and writing\nBrigham Daniels, Addressing Global Climate Change in an Age of Political Climate Change\nEPA, Carbon Pollution Standards\nEPA, Carbon Power Plan Proposed Rule, including links to the proposed rule and numerous fact sheets concerning the EPA’s proposed rule for existing power plants\nVox’s Guide to Obama's New Rules to Cut Carbon Emissions from Power Plants\nJonathan Cohn, Obama's New Rules for Coal Plants Are a B.F.D. The Ensuing Political Fight May Be Even Bigger\nThe United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, website and wikipedia\nExplanation of the Kyoto Protocol\nU.S. Global Change Research Program, 2014 National Climate Assessment\nUSGCPR, Appendix: Climate Science Supplement\nAbout the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change or IPCC\nIPCC Assessments\nMassachusetts v. EPA, holding (among other things) that EPA has authority under some parts of the Clean Air Act to regulate greenhouse gas emissions\nEPA, Section 111(d) Plans mandated after an endangerment finding\nIn re Polar Bear Endangered Species Act Listing, in which the D.C. Circuit upholds U.S. Fish and Wildlife’s listing of the polar bear as “threatened” under the Endangered Species Act\nJustin Gillis and Kenneth Chang, Scientists Warn of Rising Oceans From Polar Melt\nEzra Klein, How Politics Makes Us Stupid\nLast Week Tonight with John Oliver, Climate Change Debate on YouTube\nLetter from Moynihan to Ehrlichman in the Nixon White House warning that rising carbon dioxide levels were “very clearly” a “problem,” potentially destroying New York and Washington\nCompetitive Enterprise Institute, Energy, YouTube video (“They call it pollution. We call it life.”)\nKevin Drum, Sorry, \"Daily Show\": Anti-Vax Nuts Come From Both Sides of the Aisle\nJedediah Purdy, Climate Change Needs the Politics of the Impossible\nEzra Klein, 7 Reasons America Will Fail on Climate Change\nSpecial Guest: Brigham Daniels.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe talk about the relatively simple problem of global climate change with Brigham Daniels. Starting with EPA’s just-proposed regulations, we discuss the very odd way that U.S. law has confronted the problem. Why has it become a partisan issue and how do we overcome that? Are economic signals enough or must ethics change and tribal alliances break down? How might that happen? Darcy and a special canine guest make brief appearances.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrigham Daniels’ \u003ca href=\"http://www.law2.byu.edu/faculty/profiles2009/profile_fancy.php?id=155\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/author=514854\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrigham Daniels, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2018686\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAddressing Global Climate Change in an Age of Political Climate Change\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEPA, \u003ca href=\"http://www2.epa.gov/carbon-pollution-standards\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCarbon Pollution Standards\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEPA, \u003ca href=\"http://www2.epa.gov/carbon-pollution-standards/clean-power-plan-proposed-rule\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCarbon Power Plan Proposed Rule\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, including links to the proposed rule and numerous fact sheets concerning the EPA’s proposed rule for existing power plants\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eVox’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/2014/6/1/5770556/EPA-power-plant-rules-explainer\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGuide to Obama's New Rules to Cut Carbon Emissions from Power Plants\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJonathan Cohn, \u003ca href=\"http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117902/epa-power-plant-regulations-faq-big-step-climate-change\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eObama's New Rules for Coal Plants Are a B.F.D. The Ensuing Political Fight May Be Even Bigger\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, \u003ca href=\"http://unfccc.int/2860.php\"\u003ewebsite\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Framework_Convention_on_Climate_Change\"\u003ewikipedia\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eExplanation of the \u003ca href=\"http://unfccc.int/kyoto_protocol/items/2830.php\"\u003eKyoto Protocol\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eU.S. Global Change Research Program, \u003ca href=\"http://nca2014.globalchange.gov\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e2014 National Climate Assessment\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eUSGCPR, \u003ca href=\"http://nca2014.globalchange.gov/report/appendices/climate-science-supplement\"\u003eAppendix: Climate Science Supplement\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the \u003ca href=\"http://www.ipcc.ch/organization/organization.shtml\"\u003eIntergovernmental Panel on Climate Change\u003c/a\u003e or IPCC\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/publications_and_data_reports.shtml\"\u003eIPCC Assessments\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16923241216495494762\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMassachusetts v. EPA\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, holding (among other things) that EPA has authority under some parts of the Clean Air Act to regulate greenhouse gas emissions\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEPA, \u003ca href=\"http://www.epa.gov/Region7/air/rules/111d.htm\"\u003eSection 111(d) Plans\u003c/a\u003e mandated after an endangerment finding\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7287920181211412532\"\u003eIn re Polar Bear Endangered Species Act Listing\u003c/a\u003e, in which the D.C. Circuit upholds U.S. Fish and Wildlife’s listing of the polar bear as “threatened” under the Endangered Species Act\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJustin Gillis and Kenneth Chang, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/science/earth/collapse-of-parts-of-west-antarctica-ice-sheet-has-begun-scientists-say.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eScientists Warn of Rising Oceans From Polar Melt\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEzra Klein, \u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/2014/4/6/5556462/brain-dead-how-politics-makes-us-stupid\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow Politics Makes Us Stupid\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLast Week Tonight with John Oliver, \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuGCJJUGsg\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eClimate Change Debate\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e on YouTube\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.nixonlibrary.gov/virtuallibrary/releases/jul10/56.pdf\"\u003eLetter from Moynihan to Ehrlichman\u003c/a\u003e in the Nixon White House warning that rising carbon dioxide levels were “very clearly” a “problem,” potentially destroying New York and Washington\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCompetitive Enterprise Institute, \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sGKvDNdJNA\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEnergy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, YouTube video (“They call it pollution. We call it life.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKevin Drum, \u003ca href=\"http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/06/sorry-daily-show-anti-vax-nuts-come-both-sides-aisle\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSorry, \"Daily Show\": Anti-Vax Nuts Come From Both Sides of the Aisle\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJedediah Purdy, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/06/climate-change-needs-the-politics-of-the-impossible.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eClimate Change Needs the Politics of the Impossible\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEzra Klein, \u003ca href=\"http://www.vox.com/2014/6/5/5779040/7-reasons-America-fail-global-warming\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e7 Reasons America Will Fail on Climate Change\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Brigham Daniels.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The simple problem of climate change, with Brigham Daniels.","date_published":"2014-06-06T20:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/09802769-5547-4172-957c-52fe92f6be9d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":40898399,"duration_in_seconds":4962}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:537fa91be4b03c02ffcb7ba7","title":"Episode 20: Twelve Billion Dollars","url":"https://oralargument.org/20","content_text":"We start, of course, with speed traps and the suggestion of a radio talk show host that giving speed trap warnings is a religious obligation. Our major topic, though, is the insanity of the textbook market. Christian takes a typically moderate position and argues that all textbooks should be free. Joe takes a typically strident position and argues that it’s more complicated than that. We discuss our respective projects to change the nature and distribution of law school casebooks. Topics include: textbooks as playlists, how their production is like and unlike the production of wikipedia, the traditional model and how much students pay, the weird market for textbooks, Joe’s collaboration with Lydia Loren to become the Radiohead of textbook publishers, and one publisher’s attempt essentially to lease rather than sell textbooks. We close by noting that it’s hot here now (the slight hiss when Joe speaks is the air conditioning) and Christian’s related parenting woes.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nAtlanta’s News Radio 106.7 FM and, in particular, The Michael Graham Show\nEpisode 7: Speed Trap and follow-up on speed-trap law on Episode 8: Party All Over the World\nChristian Turner, This Thing I Made, describing HydraText\nYochai Benkler, The Wealth of Networks, from which you can download the book or read it in a browser\nThe Berkman Center’s H2O Project at Harvard University\neLangdell, CALI’s casebook project\nSemaphore Press, Joe’s and Lydia Loren’s casebook company\nJames Grimmelman, Internet Law: Cases and Materials\nDaniel Nazer, Aspen to Students: Your Property Book is Not Your Property\nMike Masnick, Publisher 'DRMs' Physical Legal Textbook About 'Property,' Undermines Property And First Sale Concepts\nJosh Blackman, Aspen Casebook Connect Textbooks Must Be Returned At End Of Class, Cannot Be Resold\nJosh Blackman, Aspen Issues Revised “Connected Casebook” – Now You Can Choose To Keep Your Book\nIan Chant, Law Profs Revolt after Aspen Casebook Tries to Get Around First Sale Doctrine\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe start, of course, with speed traps and the suggestion of a radio talk show host that giving speed trap warnings is a religious obligation. Our major topic, though, is the insanity of the textbook market. Christian takes a typically moderate position and argues that all textbooks should be free. Joe takes a typically strident position and argues that it’s more complicated than that. We discuss our respective projects to change the nature and distribution of law school casebooks. Topics include: textbooks as playlists, how their production is like and unlike the production of wikipedia, the traditional model and how much students pay, the weird market for textbooks, Joe’s collaboration with Lydia Loren to become the Radiohead of textbook publishers, and one publisher’s attempt essentially to lease rather than sell textbooks. We close by noting that it’s hot here now (the slight hiss when Joe speaks is the air conditioning) and Christian’s related parenting woes.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAtlanta’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.allnews1067.com\"\u003eNews Radio 106.7 FM\u003c/a\u003e and, in particular, \u003ca href=\"http://www.allnews1067.com/common/page.php?pt=The+Michael+Graham+Show\u0026amp;id=32894\u0026amp;is_corp=0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Michael Graham Show\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/7\"\u003eEpisode 7: Speed Trap\u003c/a\u003e and follow-up on speed-trap law on \u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/8\"\u003eEpisode 8: Party All Over the World\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2012/1/13/this-thing-i-made.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThis Thing I Made\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, describing HydraText\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eYochai Benkler, \u003ca href=\"http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/wealth_of_networks/Main_Page\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Wealth of Networks\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, from which you can download the book or read it in a browser\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe Berkman Center’s \u003ca href=\"http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/research/h2o\"\u003eH2O Project\u003c/a\u003e at Harvard University\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://elangdell.cali.org\"\u003eeLangdell\u003c/a\u003e, CALI’s casebook project\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://semaphorepress.com\"\u003eSemaphore Press\u003c/a\u003e, Joe’s and \u003ca href=\"https://law.lclark.edu/live/profiles/293-lydia-loren/\"\u003eLydia Loren’s\u003c/a\u003e casebook company\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames Grimmelman, \u003ca href=\"http://internetcasebook.com\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInternet Law: Cases and Materials\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDaniel Nazer, \u003ca href=\"https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/05/aspen-students-your-property-book-not-your-property\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAspen to Students: Your Property Book is Not Your Property\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMike Masnick, \u003ca href=\"http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140507/07150527149/publisher-drms-physical-legal-textbook-about-property-undermines-property-first-sale-concepts.shtml\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePublisher 'DRMs' Physical Legal Textbook About 'Property,' Undermines Property And First Sale Concepts\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Blackman, \u003ca href=\"http://joshblackman.com/blog/2014/05/05/aspen-casebook-connect-textbooks-must-be-returned-at-end-of-class-cannot-be-resold/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAspen Casebook Connect Textbooks Must Be Returned At End Of Class, Cannot Be Resold\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Blackman, \u003ca href=\"http://joshblackman.com/blog/2014/05/08/aspen-issues-revised-connected-casebook-now-you-can-choose-to-keep-your-book/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAspen Issues Revised “Connected Casebook” – Now You Can Choose To Keep Your Book\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eIan Chant, \u003ca href=\"http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2014/05/academic-libraries/law-profs-revolt-after-aspen-casebook-tries-to-get-around-first-sale-doctrine/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaw Profs Revolt after Aspen Casebook Tries to Get Around First Sale Doctrine\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The one about textbooks.","date_published":"2014-05-23T16:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/5e8f3a45-76ee-403e-a570-e34a9a016132.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":49541522,"duration_in_seconds":6042}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:53774d9ee4b095f55e74352f","title":"Episode 19: The Prayer Abides","url":"https://oralargument.org/19","content_text":"Shaking off the rust after a two-week break, we’re back to argue about the Supreme Court’s latest entry in the “Let Us Pray” genre. We are joined by law and religion scholar Nathan Chapman and focus on ancient Greece, where by Greece we mean Greece, New York, and by ancient we mean 1999. That’s when the town began to invite local clergy to its monthly Town Board meetings to deliver short prayers. For almost a decade, these prayers were uniformly Christian and almost always explicitly so. Government and prayer: what to do? We disagree.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nNathan Chapman’s faculty profile and writing\nNathan Chapman, Disentangling Conscience and Religion\nThis Week in Law, Episode 258, featuring Christina Mulligan and recommending our show\nOral Argument 18: Oral Argument, with Tom Goldstein\nTown of Greece v. Galloway, Supreme Court, pdf and html\nTown of Greece v. Galloway, Judge Calabresi’s opinion for the Second Circuit\nAllegheny County v. Greater Pittsburgh ACLU, a creche case that uses the “endorsement” test\nMarsh v. Chambers, the principle Supreme Court case on legislative prayer\nLemon v. Kurtzman, origin of the so-called Lemon test for Establishment Clause challenges\nLee v. Weisman, prohibiting prayers at public school graduation ceremonies\nMcCreary County v. ACLU, finding a predominantly religious purpose in displaying the Ten Commandments in courthouses and holding government must remain neutral between religious and non-religious viewpoints, with O’Connor’s concurrence decisive\nNelson Tebbe and Micah Schwartzman, The Puzzle of Town of Greece v. Galloway\nAkhil Amar, The Bill of Rights: Creation and Reconstruction\nMarie Griffith, The Establishment Clause: An Interview with Judge Guido Calabresi\nGuido Calabresi, video of lecture, What about the Establishment Clause? (his remarks begin at 8:50)\nThe entry gate to New Haven’s Grove Street Cemetery\nSpecial Guest: Nathan Chapman.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eShaking off the rust after a two-week break, we’re back to argue about the Supreme Court’s latest entry in the “Let Us Pray” genre. We are joined by law and religion scholar Nathan Chapman and focus on ancient Greece, where by Greece we mean Greece, New York, and by ancient we mean 1999. That’s when the town began to invite local clergy to its monthly Town Board meetings to deliver short prayers. For almost a decade, these prayers were uniformly Christian and almost always explicitly so. Government and prayer: what to do? We disagree.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNathan Chapman’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/nathan-s-chapman\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=865020\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNathan Chapman, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2325928\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDisentangling Conscience and Religion\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://twit.tv/show/this-week-in-law/258\"\u003eThis Week in Law, Episode 258\u003c/a\u003e, featuring Christina Mulligan and recommending our show\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/18\"\u003eOral Argument 18: Oral Argument\u003c/a\u003e, with Tom Goldstein\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cem\u003eTown of Greece v. Galloway\u003c/em\u003e, Supreme Court, \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/12-696_4f57.pdf\"\u003epdf\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=1673044859527416511\"\u003ehtml\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003cem\u003eTown of Greece v. Galloway\u003c/em\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=13574198750186036788\"\u003eJudge Calabresi’s opinion for the Second Circuit\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8862797267664944769\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAllegheny County v. Greater Pittsburgh ACLU\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, a creche case that uses the “endorsement” test\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3932615455276115963\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMarsh v. Chambers\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the principle Supreme Court case on legislative prayer\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6993086659963510613\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLemon v. Kurtzman\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, origin of the so-called \u003cem\u003eLemon\u003c/em\u003e test for Establishment Clause challenges\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=140480915250262562\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLee v. Weisman\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, prohibiting prayers at public school graduation ceremonies\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12562965837902735221\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMcCreary County v. ACLU\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, finding a predominantly religious purpose in displaying the Ten Commandments in courthouses and holding government must remain neutral between religious and non-religious viewpoints, with O’Connor’s concurrence decisive\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNelson Tebbe and Micah Schwartzman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/09/symposium-the-puzzle-of-town-of-greece-v-galloway/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Puzzle of\u003c/em\u003e Town of Greece v. Galloway\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAkhil Amar, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/The-Bill-Rights-Creation-Reconstruction/dp/0300082770\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Bill of Rights: Creation and Reconstruction\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMarie Griffith, \u003ca href=\"http://religionandpolitics.org/2014/03/27/the-establishment-clause-an-interview-with-judge-guido-calabresi/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Establishment Clause: An Interview with Judge Guido Calabresi\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGuido Calabresi, video of lecture, \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5B6aWMVKL0\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat about the Establishment Clause?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (his remarks begin at 8:50)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe entry gate to New Haven’s \u003ca href=\"http://ctmonuments.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/P1270216.jpg\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGrove Street Cemetery\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Nathan Chapman.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Government prayer, with Nathan Chapman.","date_published":"2014-05-17T16:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/50cc9888-d42d-444b-8b13-50d091208ffc.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":50171616,"duration_in_seconds":6121}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:535abd13e4b0a24faf6b3f3f","title":"Episode 18: Oral Argument","url":"https://oralargument.org/18","content_text":"We finally get around to talking about oral argument on Oral Argument. And, oh do we do so in style. Supreme Court advocate and SCOTUSblog co-founder Tom Goldstein joins us for a portion of the show to talk about what oral arguments are, whether they are worth their costs, what they accomplish, and more. Joe complains about absurd hypotheticals. Christian is unfamiliar with any other kind. Also, we begin with errata, in which we acknowledge Christian’s abuse of the English language.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nTom Goldstein’s profile and law firm\nSCOTUSblog and its About page\nOral Argument Episode 17: Flesh List, with Kim Krawiec\nKim’s posts here and here about her appearance and with some follow-up information\nSubsume\nOyez, a resource for, among other things, audio of Supreme Court oral arguments dating back at least to the 1950s\nThe U.S. Supreme Court’s own pages for oral argument transcripts and audio\nBarry Sullivan, Other Minds: The Use and Uses of Oral Argument\nEpstein, Landes, and Posner, Inferring the Winning Party in the Supreme Court from the Pattern of Questioning at Oral Argument\nWikipedia, collecting sources, on Justice Thomas’ approach to oral argument\nThe Oyez page for Loving v. Virginia, which links to the audio of the oral argument in the historic case striking down state bans on interracial marriage\nRonald Collins, Hypothetically Speaking: Justice Breyer’s Dialectical Propensities\nJoshua Stein, Tentative Oral Opinions: Improving Oral Argument Without Spending a Dime\nOyez page for Kelo v. City of New London\nOral argument transcript in Alice Corp. v. CLS Bank Int’l, just search for “King Tut” within this document\nAdam Liptak, A Taxonomy of Supreme Court Humor\nJay Wexler, Laugh Track II - Still Laughin’!\nSpecial Guest: Tom Goldtsein.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe finally get around to talking about oral argument on Oral Argument. And, oh do we do so in style. Supreme Court advocate and SCOTUSblog co-founder Tom Goldstein joins us for a portion of the show to talk about what oral arguments are, whether they are worth their costs, what they accomplish, and more. Joe complains about absurd hypotheticals. Christian is unfamiliar with any other kind. Also, we begin with errata, in which we acknowledge Christian’s abuse of the English language.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTom Goldstein’s \u003ca href=\"http://ghrfirm.com/attorney-profiles/thomas-goldstein\"\u003eprofile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://ghrfirm.com\"\u003elaw firm\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com\"\u003eSCOTUSblog\u003c/a\u003e and its \u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/about/\"\u003eAbout page\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/17\"\u003eOral Argument Episode 17: \u003cem\u003eFlesh List\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, with Kim Krawiec\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKim’s posts \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2014/04/flesh-list-is-me.html\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2014/04/taboo-trades-reading-lists.html\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e about her appearance and with some follow-up information\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subsume\"\u003eSubsume\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.oyez.org\"\u003eOyez\u003c/a\u003e, a resource for, among other things, audio of Supreme Court oral arguments dating back at least to the 1950s\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe U.S. Supreme Court’s own pages for oral argument \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts.aspx\"\u003etranscripts\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_audio.aspx\"\u003eaudio\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBarry Sullivan, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1559161\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOther Minds: The Use and Uses of Oral Argument\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEpstein, Landes, and Posner, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1414317\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInferring the Winning Party in the Supreme Court from the Pattern of Questioning at Oral Argument\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWikipedia, collecting sources, on \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas#Approach_to_oral_arguments\"\u003eJustice Thomas’ approach to oral argument\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe \u003ca href=\"http://www.oyez.org/cases/1960-1969/1966/1966_395\"\u003eOyez page for \u003cem\u003eLoving v. Virginia\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, which links to the audio of the oral argument in the historic case striking down state bans on interracial marriage\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRonald Collins, \u003ca href=\"http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2014/02/hypothetically-speaking-justice-breyers-dialectical-propensities.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHypothetically Speaking: Justice Breyer’s Dialectical Propensities\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoshua Stein, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2367476\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTentative Oral Opinions: Improving Oral Argument Without Spending a Dime\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOyez page for \u003ca href=\"http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2004/2004_04_108\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eKelo v. City of New London\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOral argument transcript in \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/13-298_869d.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAlice Corp. v. CLS Bank Int’l\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, just search for “King Tut” within this document\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAdam Liptak, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/25/us/25bar.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Taxonomy of Supreme Court Humor\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJay Wexler, \u003ca href=\"http://www.yalelawjournal.org/forum/laugh-track-ii-still-laughin\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLaugh Track II - Still Laughin’!\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Tom Goldtsein.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The one about actual oral arguments, with Tom Goldstein.","date_published":"2014-04-25T16:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/21614b14-3947-4230-b859-817a4e4c6a8f.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":33123295,"duration_in_seconds":3990}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:535143d5e4b0bf8f55254fbf","title":"Episode 17: Flesh List","url":"https://oralargument.org/17","content_text":"Psst, do you want to buy a kidney? How about a human egg, or a baby? We talk about taboo markets and tragic choice with Kim Krawiec. Topics range from egg “donation” to kidney transplants, altruism, reference transactions, military service, sex, and more. How do we allocate scarce goods when enough of us just don’t believe the goods should be traded like loaves of bread? Program note: We failed to ask Kim whether Joe is monstrous on account of his views on speed trap norms. Our apologies to the listeners and to Kim.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nKim Krawiec’s faculty profile and writing\nOral Argument Episode 14: The Astronaut’s Hair, with Lisa Milot\nThe Faculty Lounge blog\nTaxing Eggs, a mini-symposium on the Faculty Lounge blog\nViviana A. Rotman Zelizer, Morals and Markets: The Development of Life Insurance in the United States\nViviana A. Zelizer, Pricing the Priceless Child\nViviana A. Zelizer, The Price and Value of Children: The Case of Children’s Insurance\nKimberly Krawiec, Price and Pretense in the Baby Market\nKimberly Krawiec, A Woman’s Worth\nMargaret Jane Radin, Contested Commodities\nRichard Posner, The Regulation of the Market in Adoptions\nKimberly Krawiec, Kamakahi v. ASRM: The Egg Donor Price Fixing Litigation\nPhilip Cook and Kimberly Krawiec, A Primer on Kidney Transplantation: Anatomy of the Shortage\nWikipedia on the National Organ Transplant Act of 1984\nKieran Healy and Kimberly Krawiec, Custom, Contract, and Kidney Exchange\nShow Me the Money: Making Markets in Forbidden Exchange, an issue of Law and Contemporary Problems\nKimberly Krawiec, Foreword to Show Me the Money: Making Markets in Forbidden Exchange\nGuido Calabresi and Philip Bobbitt, Tragic Choices\nSpecial Guest: Kimberly Krawiec.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003ePsst, do you want to buy a kidney? How about a human egg, or a baby? We talk about taboo markets and tragic choice with Kim Krawiec. Topics range from egg “donation” to kidney transplants, altruism, reference transactions, military service, sex, and more. How do we allocate scarce goods when enough of us just don’t believe the goods should be traded like loaves of bread? Program note: We failed to ask Kim whether Joe is monstrous on account of his views on speed trap norms. Our apologies to the listeners and to Kim.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKim Krawiec’s \u003ca href=\"https://law.duke.edu/fac/krawiec/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=110520\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/14\"\u003eOral Argument Episode 14: \u003cem\u003eThe Astronaut’s Hair\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, with Lisa Milot\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/\"\u003eThe Faculty Lounge\u003c/a\u003e blog\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2014/02/taxing-eggs-a-mini-symposium.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTaxing Eggs\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, a mini-symposium on the Faculty Lounge blog\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eViviana A. Rotman Zelizer, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Morals-Markets-Development-Insurance-United/dp/0878559299\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMorals and Markets: The Development of Life Insurance in the United States\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eViviana A. Zelizer, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Pricing-Priceless-Child-Changing-Children/dp/0691034591\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePricing the Priceless Child\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eViviana A. Zelizer, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2778747\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Price and Value of Children: The Case of Children’s Insurance\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1342710\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePrice and Pretense in the Baby Market\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1548929\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Woman’s Worth\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMargaret Jane Radin, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Contested-Commodities-Margaret-Jane-Radin/dp/0674007166\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eContested Commodities\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Posner, \u003ca href=\"http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2903\u0026amp;context=journal_articles\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Regulation of the Market in Adoptions\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2396027\"\u003eKamakahi v. ASRM: \u003cem\u003eThe Egg Donor Price Fixing Litigation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePhilip Cook and Kimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2381296\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Primer on Kidney Transplantation: Anatomy of the Shortage\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWikipedia on \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Organ_Transplant_Act_of_1984\"\u003ethe National Organ Transplant Act of 1984\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKieran Healy and Kimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2176410\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCustom, Contract, and Kidney Exchange\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/lcp/vol72/iss3/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShow Me the Money: Making Markets in Forbidden Exchange\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, an issue of \u003cem\u003eLaw and Contemporary Problems\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1327893\"\u003eForeword to \u003cem\u003eShow Me the Money: Making Markets in Forbidden Exchange\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGuido Calabresi and Philip Bobbitt, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Tragic-Choices-Lectures-Public-Analysis/dp/039309085X/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTragic Choices\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Kimberly Krawiec.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Taboo transactions, with Kim Krawiec.","date_published":"2014-04-18T23:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/19bd6f5d-a216-4d9f-9ccc-c2cbb55e3cd6.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":39840274,"duration_in_seconds":4829}]},{"id":"50085028e4b0c6fedbcad981:50dc821be4b0a05702a6868c:5346ee63e4b0dd40982c8fa7","title":"Episode 16: The Whole Spectrum","url":"https://oralargument.org/16","content_text":"When you think of giant cable companies, do you find yourself wishing they could be bigger? Do you even find yourself thinking of giant cable companies? Whether you do or do not, you might learn something from our discussion with James Speta, who attempts to shows us the middle way on the issues facing broadband internet. Vertical and horizontal integration, bundling, packets, spectrum, and monopoly. We return to the law and policy of the network.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nJim Speta’s faculty profile and writing\nJames B. Speta, Supervising Managed Services\nOral Argument Episode 10 with Christina Mulligan, with discussion and links on many of the topics we discuss, including the Comcast-Time Warner merger, net neutrality, Verizon v. FCC, content delivery networks, the Comcast-Netflix deal, pCell technology, and common carrier regulations\nComcast, Press Release about its FCC filing on its proposed merger with Time Warner\nEdward Wyatt, Internet Choice Will Be Crucial Battlefield in Big Cable Merger\nEdward Wyatt, Senate Panel Expresses Caution on Merger of Cable Giants\nSusan Crawford, Comcast Pretends to Be on Your Side\nWikipedia on the Telecommunications Act of 1996\nThe National Broadband Plan, executive summary\nSusan Crawford, The Looming Cable Monopoly\nCecilia Kang, Comcast the little guy? There’s competition everywhere, the company argues\nBae, Beigman, Berry, Honig, Shen, Vohra, and Zhou, Spectrum Markets for Wireless Services\nReed Hastings, Internet Tolls And The Case For Strong Net Neutrality\nJon Brodkin, Netflix says it will pay “tolls” to more ISPs, not just Comcast\nBenjamin, Shelnski, Speta, and Weiser, Telecommunications Law and Policy: Third Edition\nSpecial Guest: James Speta.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhen you think of giant cable companies, do you find yourself wishing they could be bigger? Do you even find yourself thinking of giant cable companies? Whether you do or do not, you might learn something from our discussion with James Speta, who attempts to shows us the middle way on the issues facing broadband internet. Vertical and horizontal integration, bundling, packets, spectrum, and monopoly. We return to the law and policy of the network.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJim Speta’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.northwestern.edu/faculty/profiles/jamesspeta/\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/author=79230\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJames B. Speta, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1837669\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSupervising Managed Services\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/10\"\u003eOral Argument Episode 10 with Christina Mulligan\u003c/a\u003e, with discussion and links on many of the topics we discuss, including the Comcast-Time Warner merger, \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality\"\u003enet neutrality\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/3AF8B4D938CDEEA685257C6000532062/$file/11-1355-1474943.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVerizon v. FCC\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network\"\u003econtent delivery networks\u003c/a\u003e, the \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/23/comcasts-deal-with-netflix-makes-network-neutrality-obsolete/\"\u003eComcast-Netflix deal\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/checking-the-claim-a-wireless-network-that-streams-a-thousand-times-faster-180950307/?no-ist\"\u003epCell technology\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/chapter-5/subchapter-II/part-I\"\u003ecommon carrier regulations\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eComcast, \u003ca href=\"http://corporate.comcast.com/comcast-voices/comcast-and-time-warner-cable-file-applications-and-public-interest-statement-with-fcc\"\u003ePress Release\u003c/a\u003e about its \u003ca href=\"http://corporate.comcast.com/images/Comcast-Public-Interest-Statement-April-8.pdf\"\u003eFCC filing\u003c/a\u003e on its proposed merger with Time Warner\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEdward Wyatt, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/08/business/in-scrutiny-of-cable-merger-internet-choice-will-be-crucial-battlefield.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInternet Choice Will Be Crucial Battlefield in Big Cable Merger\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEdward Wyatt, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/10/business/media/senate-committee-begins-its-review-of-comcast-deal.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSenate Panel Expresses Caution on Merger of Cable Giants\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSusan Crawford, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-09/comcast-pretends-to-be-on-your-side\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eComcast Pretends to Be on Your Side\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWikipedia on the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996\"\u003eTelecommunications Act of 1996\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.broadband.gov/plan/executive-summary/\"\u003eThe National Broadband Plan, executive summary\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSusan Crawford, \u003ca href=\"http://scrawford.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/looming-cable-monopoly.pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Looming Cable Monopoly\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCecilia Kang, \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/04/08/comcast-the-little-guy-theres-competition-everywhere-the-company-argues/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eComcast the little guy? There’s competition everywhere, the company argues\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBae, Beigman, Berry, Honig, Shen, Vohra, and Zhou, \u003ca href=\"http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.149.433\u0026amp;rep=rep1\u0026amp;type=pdf\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSpectrum Markets for Wireless Services\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eReed Hastings, \u003ca href=\"http://blog.netflix.com/2014/03/internet-tolls-and-case-for-strong-net.html\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInternet Tolls And The Case For Strong Net Neutrality\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJon Brodkin, \u003ca href=\"http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/03/netflix-says-it-will-pay-tolls-to-more-isps-not-just-comcast/\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNetflix says it will pay “tolls” to more ISPs, not just Comcast\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBenjamin, Shelnski, Speta, and Weiser, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Telecommunications-Law-Policy-Third-Edition/dp/159460892X\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTelecommunications Law and Policy: Third Edition\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: James Speta.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Big cable companies, with Jim Speta.","date_published":"2014-04-11T07:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/6985ec87-d9cc-4a73-b5f4-2e461808a254.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":36725447,"duration_in_seconds":4440}]},{"id":"d5f3c8db-a3ae-4cca-89ae-d3073e9e6b4d","title":"Episode 15: In the Weeds","url":"https://oralargument.org/15","content_text":"It’s Reefer Madness week on Oral Argument. We talk with Douglas Berman about marijuana decriminalization and lots more. We discuss blogs and scholarship, LSD, why minds might be changing and how they change on drug use, parental paternalism and state paternalism, what we mean by “good drugs” and “bad drugs,” the productivity of intoxication, why law students take an interest in philosophy and sociology when it comes to drug laws. What levers should we use to minimize the dangers drugs pose, and what levers are available to us? We talk a bit about Portugal, the Netherlands, Sweden, and North Korea. Yes, North Korea. Is part of the right answer to restrict the market to Mom and Pop Pot? How do we do that in a maelstrom of conflicting federal and state laws?\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDouglas Berman’s faculty profile and writing\nKimberly Krawiec, Taxing Eggs on Oral Argument on The Faculty Lounge blog\nThe best way to listen to Oral Argument: Podcast apps, such as Castro, instacast, Downcast, and Pocket Casts\nDoug’s world-famous sentencing blog, Sentencing Law and Policy\nMarijuana Law, Policy and Reform, Doug Berman’s latest world-famous blog\nUnited States v. Marshall (Easterbrook vs. Posner on the interpretation of statutory LSD punishments)\nMatt Ferner, Lawmaker Predicts Marijuana Will Be Legal Within 5 Years\nSeanna Adcox (AP), South Carolina House Allows Cannabis-Derived Oil for Epilepsy\nAlex Kreit, Controlled Substances: Crime, Regulation, and Policy\nAlex Kreit, Controlled Substances blog posts on Doug’s Sentencing Law and Policy (this is the fourth, with earlier posts linked at the bottom of this one)\nBen Tool, North Korea Smokes Weed Every Day, Explaining a Lot\nJosh Harkinson, Brett Bownell, and Julia Lurie, 24 Mind-Blowing Facts About Marijuana Production in America\nJosh Harkinson, The Landscape-Scarring, Energy-Sucking, Wildlife-Killing Reality of Pot Farming\nWikipedia on Drug Policy of Sweden\nThe Dutch government’s Toleration policy regarding soft drugs and coffee shops\nFrida Ghitis, Amsterdam for tourists: What's legal?\nGlenn Greenwald, Drug Decriminalization in Portugal\nJonathan Hiskes, Tell me again why we mandate parking at bars?\nErik Ortiz, 8 things to know about buying and smoking pot in Colorado\nMelissa Schettini Kearney, The Economic Winners and Losers of Legalized Gambling\nAshley Southall, Answers Sought for When Marijuana Laws Collide\nSerge F. Kovalesi, U.S. Issues Marijuana Guidelines for Banks\nTrevor Curwin, Small Growers or Corporate Cash Crop?\nJake Ellison, Washington State Just Shifted Marijuana Market from ‘Big Weed’ to ‘Ma and Pa Weed’\nAbby Haglage, Meet Mark Kleiman, the Man Who Will Be Washington State’s Pot Czar\nGonzales v. Raich\nFrontline interview with Mark Kleiman\nSpecial Guest: Douglas Berman.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIt’s Reefer Madness week on Oral Argument. We talk with Douglas Berman about marijuana decriminalization and lots more. We discuss blogs and scholarship, LSD, why minds might be changing and how they change on drug use, parental paternalism and state paternalism, what we mean by “good drugs” and “bad drugs,” the productivity of intoxication, why law students take an interest in philosophy and sociology when it comes to drug laws. What levers should we use to minimize the dangers drugs pose, and what levers are available to us? We talk a bit about Portugal, the Netherlands, Sweden, and North Korea. Yes, North Korea. Is part of the right answer to restrict the market to Mom and Pop Pot? How do we do that in a maelstrom of conflicting federal and state laws?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDouglas Berman’s \u003ca href=\"http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/faculty/professor/douglas-a-berman/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=333123\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2014/03/taxing-eggs-on-oral-argument.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTaxing Eggs on Oral Argument\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e on \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Faculty Lounge\u003c/a\u003e blog\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe best way to listen to Oral Argument: Podcast apps, such as \u003ca href=\"http://castro.fm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eCastro\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://vemedio.com/products/instacast\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003einstacast\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.downcastapp.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eDowncast\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://www.shiftyjelly.com/pocketcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ePocket Casts\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDoug’s world-famous sentencing blog, \u003ca href=\"http://sentencing.typepad.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSentencing Law and Policy\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/marijuana_law/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eMarijuana Law, Policy and Reform\u003c/a\u003e, Doug Berman’s latest world-famous blog\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10071397890963140087\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. Marshall\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Easterbrook vs. Posner on the interpretation of statutory LSD punishments)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatt Ferner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/02/marijuana-prohibition-ending_n_5065594.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLawmaker Predicts Marijuana Will Be Legal Within 5 Years\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSeanna Adcox (AP), \u003ca href=\"http://www.wltx.com/story/news/2014/04/02/sc-house-allows-cannabis-derived-oil-for-epilepsy/7215945/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSouth Carolina House Allows Cannabis-Derived Oil for Epilepsy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlex Kreit, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Controlled-Substances-Crime-Regulation-Policy/dp/1594608717\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eControlled Substances: Crime, Regulation, and Policy\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlex Kreit, \u003ca href=\"http://sentencing.typepad.com/sentencing_law_and_policy/2013/06/controlled-substances-4-investigating-victimless-drug-crimes.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eControlled Substances\u003c/a\u003e blog posts on Doug’s \u003ca href=\"http://sentencing.typepad.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSentencing Law and Policy\u003c/a\u003e (this is the fourth, with earlier posts linked at the bottom of this one)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBen Tool, \u003ca href=\"http://www.vice.com/read/north-korea-is-stoned-all-the-time-which-explains-a-lot\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNorth Korea Smokes Weed Every Day, Explaining a Lot\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Harkinson, Brett Bownell, and Julia Lurie, \u003ca href=\"http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/03/marijuana-pot-weed-statistics-climate-change\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e24 Mind-Blowing Facts About Marijuana Production in America\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJosh Harkinson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/03/marijuana-weed-pot-farming-environmental-impacts\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Landscape-Scarring, Energy-Sucking, Wildlife-Killing Reality of Pot Farming\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWikipedia on \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Sweden\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eDrug Policy of Sweden\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe Dutch government’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.government.nl/issues/drugs/toleration-policy-regarding-soft-drugs-and-coffee-shops\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eToleration policy regarding soft drugs and coffee shops\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eFrida Ghitis, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/17/travel/amsterdam-travel-legal-parameters/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAmsterdam for tourists: What\u0026#39;s legal?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGlenn Greenwald, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/drug-decriminalization-portugal-lessons-creating-fair-successful-drug-policies\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDrug Decriminalization in Portugal\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJonathan Hiskes, \u003ca href=\"http://grist.org/article/2010-06-24-tell-me-again-why-we-mandate-parking-at-bars/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTell me again why we mandate parking at bars?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eErik Ortiz, \u003ca href=\"http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/30/22111723-8-things-to-know-about-buying-and-smoking-pot-in-colorado\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e8 things to know about buying and smoking pot in Colorado\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMelissa Schettini Kearney, \u003ca href=\"http://www.brookings.edu/views/papers/200502kearney.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Economic Winners and Losers of Legalized Gambling\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAshley Southall, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/11/us/answers-sought-for-when-marijuana-laws-collide.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAnswers Sought for When Marijuana Laws Collide\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSerge F. Kovalesi, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/15/us/us-issues-marijuana-guidelines-for-banks.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eU.S. Issues Marijuana Guidelines for Banks\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTrevor Curwin, \u003ca href=\"http://www.cnbc.com/id/36179260\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSmall Growers or Corporate Cash Crop?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJake Ellison, \u003ca href=\"http://blog.seattlepi.com/marijuana/2014/02/20/washington-state-just-shifted-marijuana-market-from-big-weed-to-ma-and-pa-weed/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWashington State Just Shifted Marijuana Market from ‘Big Weed’ to ‘Ma and Pa Weed’\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbby Haglage, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/21/meet-mark-kleiman-the-man-who-will-be-washington-state-s-pot-czar.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMeet Mark Kleiman, the Man Who Will Be Washington State’s Pot Czar\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15647611274064109718\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGonzales v. Raich\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/interviews/kleiman.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFrontline interview with Mark Kleiman\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Douglas Berman.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Law and marijuana, with Doug Berman.","date_published":"2014-04-04T18:15:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/d5f3c8db-a3ae-4cca-89ae-d3073e9e6b4d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":54559281,"duration_in_seconds":6669}]},{"id":"9745e20f-0aec-49c6-8d6d-32d5d2592ce2","title":"Episode 14: The Astronaut's Hair","url":"https://oralargument.org/14","content_text":"This is the one about eggs. Human eggs. And whether selling them is like selling chicken eggs, teaching law school, or being a good samaritan. Lisa Milot joins us to talk about taxing proceeds from transfers of human body materials. We discuss Christian’s beard, astronaut hair, egg donations, oil reservoirs, how to pronounce Kim Krawiec’s name, speed traps, and follow-up on the US News episode.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nEpisode 12: Heart of Darkness, the episode about the U.S. News Law School Rankings\nThe Ranking Game, Jeffrey Stake’s do-it-yourself rankings website\nJeffrey Stake and Michael Alexeev, Who Responds to U.S. News \u0026amp; World Report’s Law School Rankings?, forthcoming study of U.S. News rankings’ influence on student, administrators, and employers\nLisa Milot’s bio and writing\nLisa Milot, What Are We - Laborers, Factories, or Spare Parts? The Tax Treatment of Transfers of Human Body Materials\nTaxing Eggs: A Mini-Symposium on The Faculty Lounge blog\nLisa Milot, Taxing Eggs\nCory Doctorow, Life on the Frozen-Food-Tasting Line\nSmelling armpits\nRichard Rubin, Egg Donor IRS Challenge Offers Future Sperm Tax Certainty\nAbout egg retrieval from The Donor Source, an egg donor agency\nAlissa Fleck, Inside the Industry of Egg Donation\nKimberly Krawiec, Sunny Samaritans and Egomaniacs: Price-Fixing in the Gamete Market\nKimberly Krawiec, A Woman’s Worth\nSpecial Guest: Lisa Milot.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThis is the one about eggs. Human eggs. And whether selling them is like selling chicken eggs, teaching law school, or being a good samaritan. Lisa Milot joins us to talk about taxing proceeds from transfers of human body materials. We discuss Christian’s beard, astronaut hair, egg donations, oil reservoirs, how to pronounce Kim Krawiec’s name, speed traps, and follow-up on the US News episode.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/12\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eEpisode 12: Heart of Darkness\u003c/a\u003e, the episode about the U.S. News Law School Rankings\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://monoborg.law.indiana.edu/lawrank/play.shtml\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Ranking Game\u003c/a\u003e, Jeffrey Stake’s do-it-yourself rankings website\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeffrey Stake and Michael Alexeev, \u003cem\u003eWho Responds to U.S. News \u0026amp; World Report’s Law School Rankings?\u003c/em\u003e, forthcoming study of U.S. News rankings’ influence on student, administrators, and employers\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Milot’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/lisa-milot\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ebio\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=863590\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Milot, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1480355\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Are We - Laborers, Factories, or Spare Parts? The Tax Treatment of Transfers of Human Body Materials\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2014/02/taxing-eggs-a-mini-symposium.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eTaxing Eggs: A Mini-Symposium\u003c/a\u003e on \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Faculty Lounge\u003c/a\u003e blog\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLisa Milot, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2014/02/taxing-eggs-lisa-milot.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTaxing Eggs\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCory Doctorow, \u003ca href=\"http://boingboing.net/2014/03/28/life-on-the-frozen-food-tastin.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLife on the Frozen-Food-Tasting Line\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.kuediting.com/ads/how-advertising-turned-armpits-into-vacation-destinations/attachment/smelling-armpits/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSmelling armpits\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRichard Rubin, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-20/egg-donor-irs-challenge-offers-future-sperm-tax-certainty.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEgg Donor IRS Challenge Offers Future Sperm Tax Certainty\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://www.thedonorsource.com/egg_ret.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eegg retrieval\u003c/a\u003e from \u003ca href=\"http://www.thedonorsource.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Donor Source\u003c/a\u003e, an egg donor agency\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAlissa Fleck, \u003ca href=\"http://www.refinery29.com/2014/03/64124/egg-donation\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInside the Industry of Egg Donation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1356012\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSunny Samaritans and Egomaniacs: Price-Fixing in the Gamete Market\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eKimberly Krawiec, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1548929\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Woman’s Worth\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Lisa Milot.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Selling and taxing human eggs, with Lisa Milot.","date_published":"2014-03-28T17:45:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/9745e20f-0aec-49c6-8d6d-32d5d2592ce2.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45048505,"duration_in_seconds":5480}]},{"id":"867bea34-a71a-4da1-8e43-3f04231e15ec","title":"Episode 13: A Special Place in Hell for Joe","url":"https://oralargument.org/13","content_text":"Our guest, Dave Hoffman, writes about everything and helped to found one of the premier legal blogs, Concurring Opinions. We talk about the role of legal blogs in the public sphere and for the academy. And speaking of writing, what’s wrong with legal scholarship? What should we be doing, and how can the forms of writing, the fora for writing, and the expectations for scholars help or hinder that? Also, too, the return to the show of speed trap law and whether Joe satisfies the basic norms of civility.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nDavid Hoffman’s bio and writing\nConcurring Opinions\nPrawfsblawg\nCultural Cognition Project\nDave Hoffman, The Death of Fact-finding and the Birth of Truth\nDuncan Black (Atrios) on law profs here, here, and here\nMatt Bodie for Prawfsblawg, The “Research Canons” Project\nDavid Freeman Engstrom, The 'Twiqbal' Puzzle and Empirical Study of Civil Procedure\nAbout SSRN, the Social Science Research Network\nAbout B.E. Press, the Berkeley Electronic Press\nResearchGate\nThe Murder of Kitty Genovese\nThe Montana Speed Non-Limit\nSpecial Guest: David Hoffman.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eOur guest, Dave Hoffman, writes about everything and helped to found one of the premier legal blogs, Concurring Opinions. We talk about the role of legal blogs in the public sphere and for the academy. And speaking of writing, what’s wrong with legal scholarship? What should we be doing, and how can the forms of writing, the fora for writing, and the expectations for scholars help or hinder that? Also, too, the return to the show of speed trap law and whether Joe satisfies the basic norms of civility.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Hoffman’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.temple.edu/pages/faculty/n_faculty_hoffman_main.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ebio\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.temple.edu/pages/Faculty/N_Faculty_Hoffman_publications.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.concurringopinions.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eConcurring Opinions\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ePrawfsblawg\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.culturalcognition.net\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eCultural Cognition Project\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDave Hoffman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/04/the_death_of_fa.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Death of Fact-finding and the Birth of Truth\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDuncan Black (Atrios) on law profs \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/Atrios/status/446821134949154816\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/Atrios/status/446821301580488704\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/Atrios/status/446822582764204032\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehere\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatt Bodie for Prawfsblawg, \u003ca href=\"http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2006/09/announcing_the_.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe “Research Canons” Project\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Freeman Engstrom, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2290845\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe \u0026#39;Twiqbal\u0026#39; Puzzle and Empirical Study of Civil Procedure\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Science_Research_Network\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout SSRN\u003c/a\u003e, the Social Science Research Network\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Electronic_Press\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAbout B.E. Press\u003c/a\u003e, the Berkeley Electronic Press\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.researchgate.net/aboutus.AboutUs.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eResearchGate\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Murder of Kitty Genovese\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States#Reasonable_and_prudent\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Montana Speed Non-Limit\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: David Hoffman.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Legal blogging and scholarship, with Dave Hoffman.","date_published":"2014-03-21T17:45:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/867bea34-a71a-4da1-8e43-3f04231e15ec.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37809658,"duration_in_seconds":3660}]},{"id":"f66975be-979a-4f57-bf48-28360c232f5c","title":"Episode 12: Heart of Darkness","url":"https://oralargument.org/12","content_text":"The U.S. News rankings of law schools are out! We wish they would go away. After follow-up on last week’s episode and a dip into viewer mail, we discuss what problems the rankings might be attempts to solve, how they are calculated, and the obvious problems with them. Joe reports that after the conversation, as after other discussions of the rankings, he felt like he needed a shower.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nEpisode 11: Big Red Diesel\nTypography in ten minutes from Butterick’s Practical Typography, see also his Summary of Key Rules\nBen Carter, Typography for Lawyers: One Space, Double Spacing, and Other Good Ideas\nThe 2015 U.S. News and World Report Law School Rankings\nLSAC, Choosing a Law School\nThe official U.S. News Rankings Methodology\nBrian Leiter, An Open Letter to Bob Morse of U.S. News\nBrian Leiter, The U.S. News Law School Rankings: A Guide for the Perplexed\nTheodore P. Seto, Understanding the U.S. News Law School Rankings, in which Prof. Seto describes an attempt to reproduce the U.S. News model and conclusions about the rankings’ reliability, accuracy, and shortcomings\nPaul Caron, 2015 U.S. News Peer Reputation Rankings vs. Overall Rankings\nRobert L. Jones, A Longitudinal Analysis of the U.S. News. Law School Academic Reputation Scores Between 1998 and 2013\nJeffrey Evans Stake, The Interplay Between Law School Rankings, Reputations, and Resource Allocation: Ways Rankings Mislead\nBill Henderson, Can Stanford Be No. 1 in the U.S. New Rankings? \n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThe U.S. News rankings of law schools are out! We wish they would go away. After follow-up on last week’s episode and a dip into viewer mail, we discuss what problems the rankings might be attempts to solve, how they are calculated, and the obvious problems with them. Joe reports that after the conversation, as after other discussions of the rankings, he felt like he needed a shower.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/11\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eEpisode 11: Big Red Diesel\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/typography-in-ten-minutes.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTypography in ten minutes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e from \u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/index.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eButterick’s Practical Typography\u003c/a\u003e, see also his \u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/summary-of-key-rules.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eSummary of Key Rules\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBen Carter, \u003ca href=\"http://bluegrassroots.org/home/typography-for-lawyers-one-space-double-spacing-and-other-go.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTypography for Lawyers: One Space, Double Spacing, and Other Good Ideas\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe 2015 U.S. News and World Report Law School Rankings\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLSAC, \u003ca href=\"http://www.lsac.org/jd/choosing-a-law-school/customize-your-law-school-search\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eChoosing a Law School\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThe official \u003ca href=\"http://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/articles/2014/03/10/methodology-2015-best-law-schools-rankings\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eU.S. News Rankings Methodology\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrian Leiter, \u003ca href=\"http://leiterlawschool.typepad.com/leiter/2010/03/an-open-lette-1.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAn Open Letter to Bob Morse of U.S. News\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrian Leiter, \u003ca href=\"http://www.leiterrankings.com/usnews/guide.shtml\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe U.S. News Law School Rankings: A Guide for the Perplexed\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTheodore P. Seto, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=937017\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnderstanding the U.S. News Law School Rankings\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, in which Prof. Seto describes an attempt to reproduce the U.S. News model and conclusions about the rankings’ reliability, accuracy, and shortcomings\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Caron, \u003ca href=\"http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2014/03/2015-us-news-.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e2015 U.S. News Peer Reputation Rankings vs. Overall Rankings\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRobert L. Jones, \u003ca href=\"http://law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/backissues/vol40/documents/jones.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Longitudinal Analysis of the U.S. News. Law School Academic Reputation Scores Between 1998 and 2013\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJeffrey Evans Stake, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=700862\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Interplay Between Law School Rankings, Reputations, and Resource Allocation: Ways Rankings Mislead\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBill Henderson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.elsblog.org/the_empirical_legal_studi/2010/07/can-stanford-be-1-in-the-us-news-rankings-the-data.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCan Stanford Be No. 1 in the U.S. New Rankings?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The one about the U.S. News rankings.","date_published":"2014-03-15T09:15:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/f66975be-979a-4f57-bf48-28360c232f5c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":51452156,"duration_in_seconds":6281}]},{"id":"9a7281fd-fc79-4df5-a56d-8bacc3844893","title":"Episode 11: Big Red Diesel","url":"https://oralargument.org/11","content_text":"The Spring Break episode in which Joe and Christian take a break from solving the world’s legal problems to talk about the technology and culture of writing. We start with some listener feedback, and then Joe reports on an accidental experiment he performed with his car lights. Moving on to email, we discuss a number of bad habits, including needless attachments and clicking on links. Then, the big daddy: Microsoft Word. We discuss what Christian thinks is horribly wrong with it and the excellent, usable alternative to the whole concept of the WYSIWYG word processor. We argue. We close with Memphis. Christian's spouse conducts various noisy activities in the background. And Darcy barks. Never fear: we'll get back to the law stuff next week.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nEpisode 1 with Sonja West\nCharlie Jane Anders, Great Fast Food Glasses of Yesteryear\nWikipedia on Headlight flashing\nPlease don’t send me Microsoft Word document\nJohn Gruber, On Top\nJohn Gruber, Markdown\nDavid Sparks, The Joy of Text\nPaul Jacobson, Could MultiMarkdown Replace Word for Lawyers?\nMarkdown for Lawyers\nMarkdown cheatsheet\nBrett Terpstra, The iOS Text Editor roundup\nScrivener, a writing app for Mac and Windows\nCase study on using Scrivener in a legal practice, featuring David Sparks\nUlysses, a writing app for Mac\nByword, a great text editor for Mac, iPhone, and iPad\nEditorial, Christian’s favorite markdown editor for the iPad\nTypography in ten minutes from Butterick’s Practical Typography, see also his Summary of Key Rules\nBen Carter, Typography for Lawyers: One Space, Double Spacing, and Other Good Ideas\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThe Spring Break episode in which Joe and Christian take a break from solving the world’s legal problems to talk about the technology and culture of writing. We start with some listener feedback, and then Joe reports on an accidental experiment he performed with his car lights. Moving on to email, we discuss a number of bad habits, including needless attachments and clicking on links. Then, the big daddy: Microsoft Word. We discuss what Christian thinks is horribly wrong with it and the excellent, usable alternative to the whole concept of the WYSIWYG word processor. We argue. We close with Memphis. Christian\u0026#39;s spouse conducts various noisy activities in the background. And Darcy barks. Never fear: we\u0026#39;ll get back to the law stuff next week.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/1\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eEpisode 1 with Sonja West\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharlie Jane Anders, \u003ca href=\"http://io9.com/5422249/great-fast-food-glasses-of-yesteryear/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eGreat Fast Food Glasses of Yesteryear\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWikipedia on \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlight_flashing\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eHeadlight flashing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.nothingisreal.com/wiki/Please_don\u0026#x27;t_send_me_Microsoft_Word_documents\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ePlease don’t send me Microsoft Word document\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Gruber, \u003ca href=\"http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/on_top\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOn Top\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn Gruber, \u003ca href=\"http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMarkdown\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Sparks, \u003ca href=\"http://macsparky.com/blog/2011/2/10/the-joy-of-text.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Joy of Text\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Jacobson, \u003ca href=\"http://pauljacobson.org/2013/03/09/could-multimarkdown-replace-word-for-lawyers/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCould MultiMarkdown Replace Word for Lawyers?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.whiteheadlawllc.com/technology/ediscovery/markdown-lawyers-ii/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eMarkdown for Lawyers\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.penflip.com/Penflip/help/blob/master/Markdown.txt\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eMarkdown cheatsheet\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBrett Terpstra, \u003ca href=\"http://brettterpstra.com/ios-text-editors/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe iOS Text Editor roundup\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eScrivener\u003c/a\u003e, a writing app for Mac and Windows\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://literatureandlatte.com/casestudies.php?show=david_sparks\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eCase study\u003c/a\u003e on using Scrivener in a legal practice, featuring David Sparks\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.ulyssesapp.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eUlysses\u003c/a\u003e, a writing app for Mac\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://bywordapp.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eByword\u003c/a\u003e, a great text editor for Mac, iPhone, and iPad\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://omz-software.com/editorial/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eEditorial\u003c/a\u003e, Christian’s favorite markdown editor for the iPad\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/typography-in-ten-minutes.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eTypography in ten minutes\u003c/a\u003e from \u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/index.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eButterick’s Practical Typography\u003c/a\u003e, see also his \u003ca href=\"http://practicaltypography.com/summary-of-key-rules.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSummary of Key Rules\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBen Carter, \u003ca href=\"http://bluegrassroots.org/home/typography-for-lawyers-one-space-double-spacing-and-other-go.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eTypography for Lawyers: One Space, Double Spacing, and Other Good Ideas\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Viewer mail, an experiment, and the problem with word processors.","date_published":"2014-03-07T18:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/9a7281fd-fc79-4df5-a56d-8bacc3844893.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":49803741,"duration_in_seconds":6075}]},{"id":"39b8704c-8160-40b8-b76f-2e9d4e56f2cf","title":"Episode 10: My Beard Is Not a Common Carrier","url":"https://oralargument.org/10","content_text":"This is the one about the internet, that which is neither truck nor tube. Christina Mulligan joins us to talk about our beloved cable companies, Netflix, network neutrality, regulation, monopolies, common carriers, sunken and ancient computers, and her super-secret new project (which Christian suggests could yield an excellent new conspiracy theory that would make Logan Sawyer cry). Also we answer viewer mail. Because this is a super-sized show (pour a beverage), we also mention bonobos, Schweddy Balls, Candy Crush, Candyland, the odd shape of either my coffee mugs or Joe’s face, whether we should change our name to improve our Google search position, packets spewing from unicorn horns, and the pronunciation of Smaug. Christian announces the sale of his body parts.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nChristina Mulligan’s faculty profile, writings, and Twitter\nThe Kythera Mechanism\nKaiju\nBonobos\nOwen Jones bio and writing\nCandy Crush cease and desist letters and recent trademark withdrawal\nGramma Nutt, of Candyland fame\nBackground on net neutrality, which has nothing to do, we are told, with this kind of neutrality\nVerizon v. FCC, the DC Circuit’s net neutrality case\nContent delivery networks\nJoshua Brustein, Netflix and YouTube Dominate Online Video. Can Amazon Catch Up? (Businessweek.com)\nTimothy Lee, Comcast’s deal with Netflix makes network neutrality obsolete (Washington Post)\nTraffic shaping\nCommon carrier regulations\nJon Brodkin, Make ISPs into \"common carriers,\" says former FCC commissioner (arstechnica.com)\nWikipedia on natural monopoly\nSteve Perlman’s pCell (also see this presentation)\nJohn McDuling, People hate Comcast and Time Warner Cable even more now that they’re merging (Quartz)\nAbout BitTorrent\nUber’s surge pricing\nAthens’ drought-inspired tiered water rates and the general idea\nYves Smith, The Myth of Maximizing Shareholder Value\nJonathan Owen, The Pronunciation of Smaug\nThe Death Star conspiracy\nSpecial Guest: Christina Mulligan.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThis is the one about the internet, that which is neither truck nor tube. Christina Mulligan joins us to talk about our beloved cable companies, Netflix, network neutrality, regulation, monopolies, common carriers, sunken and ancient computers, and her super-secret new project (which Christian suggests could yield an excellent new conspiracy theory that would make Logan Sawyer cry). Also we answer viewer mail. Because this is a super-sized show (pour a beverage), we also mention bonobos, Schweddy Balls, Candy Crush, Candyland, the odd shape of either my coffee mugs or Joe’s face, whether we should change our name to improve our Google search position, packets spewing from unicorn horns, and the pronunciation of Smaug. Christian announces the sale of his body parts.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristina Mulligan’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/christina-mulligan\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1557395\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewritings\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/chrystyna\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eTwitter\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Kythera Mechanism\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://pacificrim.wikia.com/wiki/Kaiju\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eKaiju\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBonobos\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eOwen Jones \u003ca href=\"http://law.vanderbilt.edu/bio/owen-jones\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ebio\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://ssrn.com/abstract=688619\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCandy Crush \u003ca href=\"http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.839964-Candy-Crush-Saga-Studio-Trademarks-the-Word-Candy\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ecease and desist letters\u003c/a\u003e and recent \u003ca href=\"http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/02/candy-crush-makers-dont-want-to-trademark-candy-anymore/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003etrademark withdrawal\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://candy-land.wikia.com/wiki/Gramma_Nut\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eGramma Nutt\u003c/a\u003e, of Candyland fame\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBackground on \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003enet neutrality\u003c/a\u003e, which has nothing to do, we are told, with \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethis kind of neutrality\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/3AF8B4D938CDEEA685257C6000532062/$file/11-1355-1474943.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVerizon v. FCC\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, the DC Circuit’s net neutrality case\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eContent delivery networks\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJoshua Brustein, \u003ca href=\"http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-11-11/netflix-and-youtube-dominate-online-video-dot-can-amazon-catch-up\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNetflix and YouTube Dominate Online Video. Can Amazon Catch Up?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Businessweek.com)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTimothy Lee, \u003ca href=\"http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/23/comcasts-deal-with-netflix-makes-network-neutrality-obsolete/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eComcast’s deal with Netflix makes network neutrality obsolete\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Washington Post)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eTraffic shaping\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/chapter-5/subchapter-II/part-I\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eCommon carrier regulations\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJon Brodkin, \u003ca href=\"http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/drop-regulatory-hammer-on-internet-providers-says-former-fcc-commish/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMake ISPs into \u0026quot;common carriers,\u0026quot; says former FCC commissioner\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (arstechnica.com)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWikipedia on \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_monopoly\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003enatural monopoly\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSteve Perlman’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.wired.com/business/2014/02/steve_perlman_pcell/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003epCell\u003c/a\u003e (also see \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bO0tjAdOIw\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ethis presentation\u003c/a\u003e)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJohn McDuling, \u003ca href=\"http://qz.com/182784/people-hate-comcast-and-time-warner-cable-even-more-now-that-theyre-merging/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePeople hate Comcast and Time Warner Cable even more now that they’re merging\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (Quartz)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBitTorrent\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/18/5221428/uber-surge-pricing-vs-price-gouging-law\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eUber’s surge pricing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAthens’ drought-inspired \u003ca href=\"http://onlineathens.com/stories/031608/news_2008031600379.shtml\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003etiered water rates\u003c/a\u003e and the \u003ca href=\"http://www1.gadnr.org/cws/Documents/Conservation_Rate_Structures.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003egeneral idea\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eYves Smith, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/01/myth-maximizing-shareholder-value.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Myth of Maximizing Shareholder Value\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJonathan Owen, \u003ca href=\"http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2013/12/20/the-pronunciation-of-smaug/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Pronunciation of Smaug\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEPazLTGceI\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Death Star conspiracy\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Christina Mulligan.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The one about the internet, with Christina Mulligan.","date_published":"2014-03-01T19:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/39b8704c-8160-40b8-b76f-2e9d4e56f2cf.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":57329436,"duration_in_seconds":7015}]},{"id":"99a8751d-64de-41fd-ac0f-51f95818acaf","title":"Episode 9: Torches and Pitchforks","url":"https://oralargument.org/9","content_text":"Law and banking in one podcast. Take deep breaths lest your racing heart burst in your chest. You think I'm joking. Probably because you don't know Mehrsa Baradaran. But then, you probably do, because everyone does. We talk about, among other things, how one should say “Mehrsa,” what banking is, It’s a Wonderful Life, how banks are subsidized and regulated, how 40 percent of the country doesn’t really bank or at least “underbanks,” and payday lenders. Christian does not call Joe “Adam Smith.” Mehrsa defends banking at the post office (dubbed by one banking industry exec “the worst idea since the Ford Edsel”). From the bank bailouts to moral hazard to the the precarious financial position of the working poor, we cover a lot of ground. And, naturally, speed traps. (Update 11/24/2018: Christian here. A listener got in touch with some very thoughtful criticism of our discussion during the intro. Talking about a gendered list, I casually raised switching genders to get on this list, in a way that the listener perceived as making a joke of transgender people. It pains me that this discussion would hurt anyone. I’m very sorry. Although it has been a long time since this conversation, I know my intent was to poke a little fun at the gendered nature of the list, though I winced at my ham-fisted mention of reassignment surgery. I hope it’s a sign of progress that I don’t believe the conversation would be the same today as it was then. But we feel strongly that retroactively editing the show should be reserved for truly exceptional situations, not to save face.)\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nMehrsa Baradaran's faculty profile and writings\nThe 100 Coolest Mormon Women Alive Today\nMehrsa Baradaran, The Post Office Banks on the Poor (New York Times Op-Ed)\nMehrsa Baradaran, Banking and the Social Contract\nThe bank run in It’s a Wonderful Life\nAbout the FDIC\nAngelo Young, It’s Bankers vs. Wal-Mart in Push to Force Financial Regulation upon the World’s Largest Retailer\nJefferson and Madison’s opposition to centralized banking\nLouis Brandeis, Other People’s Money\nAndrew G Haldane, The Dog and the Frisbee\nMehrsa Baradaran, It's Time for Postal Banking\nStephen Wexler, Practicing Law for Poor People \nOral Argument Episode 8: Party All Over the World\nCity of Warrensville Heights v. Wason\nSpecial Guest: Mehrsa Baradaran.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eLaw \u003cem\u003eand\u003c/em\u003e banking in one podcast. Take deep breaths lest your racing heart burst in your chest. You think I\u0026#39;m joking. Probably because you don\u0026#39;t know Mehrsa Baradaran. But then, you probably do, because everyone does. We talk about, among other things, how one should say “Mehrsa,” what banking is, \u003cem\u003eIt’s a Wonderful Life\u003c/em\u003e, how banks are subsidized and regulated, how 40 percent of the country doesn’t really bank or at least “underbanks,” and payday lenders. Christian does not call Joe “Adam Smith.” Mehrsa defends banking at the post office (dubbed by one banking industry exec “the worst idea since the Ford Edsel”). From the bank bailouts to moral hazard to the the precarious financial position of the working poor, we cover a lot of ground. And, naturally, speed traps. (\u003cem\u003eUpdate 11/24/2018: Christian here. A listener got in touch with some very thoughtful criticism of our discussion during the intro. Talking about a gendered list, I casually raised switching genders to get on this list, in a way that the listener perceived as making a joke of transgender people. It pains me that this discussion would hurt anyone. I’m very sorry. Although it has been a long time since this conversation, I know my intent was to poke a little fun at the gendered nature of the list, though I winced at my ham-fisted mention of reassignment surgery. I hope it’s a sign of progress that I don’t believe the conversation would be the same today as it was then. But we feel strongly that retroactively editing the show should be reserved for truly exceptional situations, not to save face.\u003c/em\u003e)\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMehrsa Baradaran\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/mehrsa-baradaran\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1178148\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewritings\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://utahvalley360.com/2014/01/23/100-coolest-lds-women-alive-today/2014/01/23/100-coolest-lds-women-alive-today/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe 100 Coolest Mormon Women Alive Today\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMehrsa Baradaran, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/08/opinion/the-post-office-banks-on-the-poor.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Post Office Banks on the Poor\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (New York Times Op-Ed)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMehrsa Baradaran, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2227060\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBanking and the Social Contract\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOzMdEwYmDU\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe bank run\u003c/a\u003e in \u003cem\u003eIt’s a Wonderful Life\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAbout the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Deposit_Insurance_Corporation\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eFDIC\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAngelo Young, \u003ca href=\"http://www.ibtimes.com/its-bankers-vs-wal-mart-wmt-push-force-financial-regulation-upon-worlds-largest-retailer-1248361\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIt’s Bankers vs. Wal-Mart in Push to Force Financial Regulation upon the World’s Largest Retailer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bank_of_the_United_States#Opposition\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eJefferson and Madison’s opposition to centralized banking\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLouis Brandeis, \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.louisville.edu/library/collections/brandeis/node/191\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOther People’s Money\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAndrew G Haldane, \u003ca href=\"http://www.bis.org/review/r120905a.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Dog and the Frisbee\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMehrsa Baradaran, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2393621\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIt\u0026#39;s Time for Postal Banking\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eStephen Wexler, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/795211\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePracticing Law for Poor People\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/8\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument Episode 8: Party All Over the World\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=469408788857827534\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCity of Warrensville Heights v. Wason\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Mehrsa Baradaran.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Banking, the under-banked, and postal banking, with Mehrsa Baradaran.","date_published":"2014-02-21T22:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/99a8751d-64de-41fd-ac0f-51f95818acaf.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":37035667,"duration_in_seconds":4479}]},{"id":"ce7846f0-28f9-4284-9569-6ec0155ca0e8","title":"Episode 8: Party All Over the World","url":"https://oralargument.org/8","content_text":"Fresh off a week-long, snow and ice shutdown, Joe tells Christian he doesn’t want to be called Adam Smith anymore. We discuss viewer mail. Then we circle back to the emerging show specialty: whether you can be charged for warning drivers of a speed trap. Turns out it’s a debate that sprawls over more than a hundred years. We also talk about leveling up one’s understanding of law, from bare opinions about disputes to theories of institutional assignment. Roll for initiative: it’s time for Oral Argument.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nElectric Light Orchestra, Party All Over the World\nRobbie Robertson’s mash-up masterpiece: On the nature of daylight / This Bitter Earth\nEmail us at oralargumentpodcast@gmail.com\nOral Argument Episode 7: Speed Trap\nUnited States v. O’Brien\nDiPino v. Davis\nWikipedia on Liebeck v. McDonald’s (the hot coffee case)\nINS v. AP\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eFresh off a week-long, snow and ice shutdown, Joe tells Christian he doesn’t want to be called Adam Smith anymore. We discuss viewer mail. Then we circle back to the emerging show specialty: whether you can be charged for warning drivers of a speed trap. Turns out it’s a debate that sprawls over more than a hundred years. We also talk about leveling up one’s understanding of law, from bare opinions about disputes to theories of institutional assignment. Roll for initiative: it’s time for Oral Argument.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eElectric Light Orchestra, \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCduAMGXIzk\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eParty All Over the World\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRobbie Robertson’s mash-up masterpiece: \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW-GMG6xhtY\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOn the nature of daylight / This Bitter Earth\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEmail us at \u003ca href=\"mailto:oralargumentpodcast@gmail.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eoralargumentpodcast@gmail.com\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/7\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument Episode 7: Speed Trap\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12229836877065678192\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eUnited States v. O’Brien\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11064487617583107024\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDiPino v. Davis\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald\u0026#x27;s_Restaurants\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eWikipedia on \u003cem\u003eLiebeck v. McDonald’s\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the hot coffee case)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16577297531712180725\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eINS v. AP\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Viewer mail, speed traps, and leveling up in law.","date_published":"2014-02-15T08:00:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/ce7846f0-28f9-4284-9569-6ec0155ca0e8.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":28073215,"duration_in_seconds":3358}]},{"id":"7c85c35a-a6bd-4443-8ba8-ccdc34e2abfd","title":"Episode 7: Speed Trap","url":"https://oralargument.org/7","content_text":"Joe calls in from an undisclosed location(Santa Clara, CA) for a short show. We begin by discussing listener Alan’s demand for more conflict, an Idaho listener’s request for more Darcy, and listener Amy’s request to discuss her parking ticket. The conversation turns to a federal court’s preliminary injunction in favor of a man who was charged for warning drivers of a speed trap by flashing his lights.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nParking Is Hell: A New Freakonomics Radio Podcast\nJury Nullification\nCivil Disobedience\nRecipe: Cold-Brewed Iced Coffee\nElli v. City of Ellisville\nThe National Speed Trap Exchange\nWikipedia on Headlight Flashing\nWhat is a classic authentic mexican burrito filled with? (Chowhound)\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe calls in from an undisclosed location(Santa Clara, CA) for a short show. We begin by discussing listener Alan’s demand for more conflict, an Idaho listener’s request for more Darcy, and listener Amy’s request to discuss her parking ticket. The conversation turns to a federal court’s preliminary injunction in favor of a man who was charged for warning drivers of a speed trap by flashing his lights.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://freakonomics.com/2013/03/13/parking-is-hell-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eParking Is Hell: A New Freakonomics Radio Podcast\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eJury Nullification\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eCivil Disobedience\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/dining/276drex.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eRecipe: Cold-Brewed Iced Coffee\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/michaelelli2.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eElli v. City of Ellisville\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.speedtrap.org\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe National Speed Trap Exchange\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWikipedia on \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlight_flashing\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eHeadlight Flashing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/886167\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eWhat is a classic authentic mexican burrito filled with?\u003c/a\u003e (Chowhound)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"The one that kicked off our legendary expertise.","date_published":"2014-02-07T16:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/7c85c35a-a6bd-4443-8ba8-ccdc34e2abfd.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":20605321,"duration_in_seconds":2425}]},{"id":"9536222d-7e1c-445a-8e1d-486f8e4c2854","title":"Episode 6: Productive Thoughtlessness","url":"https://oralargument.org/6","content_text":"Joe, Christian, loyal dog Darcy, a fire, some coffee, and melting snow. We kick back and talk about stuff that has been on our minds. This leads to three very different topics. First: we disagree whether the Supreme Court should strike down the President’s recess appointment to the National Labor Relations Board. Text vs. history vs. practice. Second: The Atlanta snowstorm traffic fiasco, in which we discuss mountaineering and computer programming. Third: What makes Dahlia Lithwick so great? Darcy makes a few appearances.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nCornell’s Legal Information Institute\nSCOTUSblog page for NLRB v. Noel Canning\nJay Bookman, Really, by now metro Atlanta ought to know better\nObject-oriented programming\nMatthew Yglesias, Atlanta Is a Regional Transportation Planning Disaster\nTracy Thompson, What Does Racism Have to Do With Gridlock?\nDahlia Lithwick, Bright Lights, Fake Kiddies\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eJoe, Christian, loyal dog Darcy, a fire, some coffee, and melting snow. We kick back and talk about stuff that has been on our minds. This leads to three very different topics. First: we disagree whether the Supreme Court should strike down the President’s recess appointment to the National Labor Relations Board. Text vs. history vs. practice. Second: The Atlanta snowstorm traffic fiasco, in which we discuss mountaineering and computer programming. Third: What makes Dahlia Lithwick so great? Darcy makes a few appearances.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCornell’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.cornell.edu\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eLegal Information Institute\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/national-labor-relations-board-v-noel-canning/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSCOTUSblog page\u003c/a\u003e for \u003cem\u003eNLRB v. Noel Canning\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJay Bookman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/jay-bookman/2014/jan/30/really-now-metro-atlanta-ought-know-better/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eReally, by now metro Atlanta ought to know better\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_programming\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eObject-oriented programming\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMatthew Yglesias, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/01/29/atlanta_traffic_nightmare_terrible_regional_planning.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAtlanta Is a Regional Transportation Planning Disaster\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTracy Thompson, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/01/atlanta_s_snow_fiasco_the_real_problem_in_the_south_isn_t_weather_it_s_history.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhat Does Racism Have to Do With Gridlock?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDahlia Lithwick, \u003ca href=\"http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/supreme_court_dispatches/2001/10/bright_lights_fake_kiddies.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBright Lights, Fake Kiddies\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Recess appointments, Atlanta snowmageddon, theory of Dahlia Lithwick.","date_published":"2014-01-31T23:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/9536222d-7e1c-445a-8e1d-486f8e4c2854.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":47889423,"duration_in_seconds":4668}]},{"id":"4cc66f16-b0dc-4d9d-8ed0-df6ac56f5048","title":"Episode 5: It Takes All Kinds","url":"https://oralargument.org/5","content_text":"Logan Sawyer, certified historian and lawyer, joins us to talk about what historians do and how they differ from the crazy uncle who fancies himself a history buff on Twitter. We learn why history is radical, not conservative, whatever political movement it is employed to serve. We discuss the methods of history and science and their abuses. Logan tells us that history is often at war with theory and that historians prey on other fields. He unravels the received wisdom of the New Deal switch in time and the conventional story of Lochner v. New York. As if to make a case in point, we keep distracting him with theory.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nLogan Sawyer's faculty profile and writing\nLogan Sawyer, Creating Hammer v. Dagenhart\nOral Argument Episode 2: Bust a Deal, Face the Wheel (in which we learned Tim Meyer’s coffee habits)\nThe court-packing plan\nLegal realism\nBarry Cushman, Rethinking the New Deal Court: The Structure of a Constitutional Revolution\nLochner v. New York\nCharles Warren, A Bulwark to the State Police Power — the United States Supreme Court\nDavid Bernstein, Rehabilitating Lochner\nOral Argument Episode 4: Grow a Pear (guest Sarah Schindler)\nVillage of Euclid v. Ambler Realty Co.\nSpecial Guest: Logan Sawyer.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eLogan Sawyer, certified historian and lawyer, joins us to talk about what historians do and how they differ from the crazy uncle who fancies himself a history buff on Twitter. We learn why history is radical, not conservative, whatever political movement it is employed to serve. We discuss the methods of history and science and their abuses. Logan tells us that history is often at war with theory and that historians prey on other fields. He unravels the received wisdom of the New Deal switch in time and the conventional story of \u003cem\u003eLochner v. New York\u003c/em\u003e. As if to make a case in point, we keep distracting him with theory.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLogan Sawyer\u0026#39;s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/logan-e-sawyer-iii\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=547659\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLogan Sawyer, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2033351\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eCreating Hammer v. Dagenhart\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/2\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument Episode 2: Bust a Deal, Face the Wheel\u003c/a\u003e (in which we learned Tim Meyer’s coffee habits)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_switch_in_time_that_saved_nine\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe court-packing plan\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_realism\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eLegal realism\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eBarry Cushman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Rethinking-New-Deal-Court-Constitutional/dp/0195120434\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRethinking the New Deal Court: The Structure of a Constitutional Revolution\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10760991087928264675\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLochner v. New York\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharles Warren, \u003ca href=\"http://www.jstor.org/stable/1110654\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Bulwark to the State Police Power — the United States Supreme Court\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Bernstein, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Rehabilitating-Lochner-Defending-Individual-Progressive/dp/0226043533\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRehabilitating Lochner\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://oralargument.org/4\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eOral Argument Episode 4: Grow a Pear (guest Sarah Schindler)\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8376015914752485063\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVillage of Euclid v. Ambler Realty Co.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Logan Sawyer.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"On legal history, with Logan Sawyer.","date_published":"2014-01-25T11:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/4cc66f16-b0dc-4d9d-8ed0-df6ac56f5048.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":34978747,"duration_in_seconds":4221}]},{"id":"dbbda840-3bdf-4e46-aa84-0d97f914de1d","title":"Episode 4: Grow a Pear","url":"https://oralargument.org/4","content_text":"From far northern climes, we are joined by Sarah Schindler, land use and property expert, hipster scholar, and lawn destroyer. In this episode we discuss Maine, backyard chicken raising, zoning, Brasília, the virtues and pleasures of law-breaking, and banning lawns. Sponsored this week by the Monsanto Corporation. Not really.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSarah Schindler’s faculty profile and writing\nErrata! Jukkasjärvi and its ice hotel are in Sweden, not Finland. Apologies to our Swedish listeners.\nAaron Perzanowski, Tattoos and IP Norms\nDavid Fagundes, Talk Derby to Me: Intellectual Property Norms Governing Roller Derby Pseudonyms\nHella Blitzgerald\nSarah Schindler, Of Backyard Chickens and Front Yard Gardens: The Conflict Between Local Governments and Locavores\nbackyardchickens.com; City of Longmont Backyward Chicken Hen Permit\nSome articles on local food and energy: USDA Economic Research Service, Energy Use in the U.S. Food System; Stephen Budiansky, Math Lessons for Locavores; Wikipedia on Local Food\nVillage of Euclid v. Ambler Realty Co.\nBrasília\nUS PIRG, Transportation and the New Generation\nNicole Stelle Garnett, Redeeming Transect Zoning?\nTiebout Model\nPaula Franzese, Privatization and its Discontents: Common Interest Communities and the Rise of Government for the Nice\nSt. Augustine Confessions, Book 2, Chapter 6 (“I stole those simply that I might steal, for, having stolen them, I threw them away. My sole gratification in them was my own sin, which I was pleased to enjoy; for, if any one of these pears entered my mouth, the only good flavor it had was my sin in eating it.”)\nScott James on illegal pop-Up restaurants\nEduardo M. Peñalver and Sonia Katyal, Property Outlaws\nAdverse Possession: trespassing until it’s yours\nGuerrilla bike lanes in Cleveland, New York, New York again, and Seattle, and everywhere\nSarah Schindler, Banning Lawns\nSpecial Guest: Sarah Schindler.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eFrom far northern climes, we are joined by Sarah Schindler, land use and property expert, hipster scholar, and lawn destroyer. In this episode we discuss Maine, backyard chicken raising, zoning, Brasília, the virtues and pleasures of law-breaking, and banning lawns. Sponsored this week by the Monsanto Corporation. Not really.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Schindler’s \u003ca href=\"http://mainelaw.maine.edu/faculty/profiles/schindler.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1099143\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eErrata! \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jukkasj%C3%A4rvi\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eJukkasjärvi and its ice hotel\u003c/a\u003e are in Sweden, not Finland. Apologies to our Swedish listeners.\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAaron Perzanowski, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2145048\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTattoos and IP Norms\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eDavid Fagundes, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1755305\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTalk Derby to Me: Intellectual Property Norms Governing Roller Derby Pseudonyms\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://classiccityrollergirls.com/about/skaters/hella-blitzgerald\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eHella Blitzgerald\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Schindler, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2030526\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOf Backyard Chickens and Front Yard Gardens: The Conflict Between Local Governments and Locavores\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.backyardchickens.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ebackyardchickens.com\u003c/a\u003e; City of Longmont \u003ca href=\"http://www.ci.longmont.co.us/planning/permits/documents/henpermit.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBackyward Chicken Hen Permit\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSome articles on local food and energy: USDA Economic Research Service, \u003ca href=\"http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/err-economic-research-report/err94.aspx#.UtnMXHn0C2w\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEnergy Use in the U.S. Food System\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Stephen Budiansky, \u003ca href=\"http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/20/opinion/20budiansky.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMath Lessons for Locavores\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Wikipedia on \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_food\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eLocal Food\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8376015914752485063\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eVillage of Euclid v. Ambler Realty Co.\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasilia\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBrasília\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eUS PIRG, \u003ca href=\"http://www.uspirg.org/sites/pirg/files/reports/Transportation%20%26%20the%20New%20Generation%20vUS_0.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eTransportation and the New Generation\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eNicole Stelle Garnett, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2188084\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRedeeming Transect Zoning?\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiebout_model\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eTiebout Model\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaula Franzese, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=871289\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePrivatization and its Discontents: Common Interest Communities and the Rise of Government for the Nice\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSt. Augustine Confessions, \u003ca href=\"http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/saints/augcon2.htm#chap6\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBook 2, Chapter 6\u003c/a\u003e (“I stole those simply that I might steal, for, having stolen them, I threw them away. My sole gratification in them was my own sin, which I was pleased to enjoy; for, if any one of these pears entered my mouth, the only good flavor it had was my sin in eating it.”)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eScott James on \u003ca href=\"https://www.baycitizen.org/columns/scott-james/underground-dining-illegal-tasty/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eillegal pop-Up restaurants\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eEduardo M. Peñalver and Sonia Katyal, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Property-Outlaws-Squatters-Protesters-Ownership/dp/0300122950\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eProperty Outlaws\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_possession\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eAdverse Possession\u003c/a\u003e: trespassing until it’s yours\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGuerrilla bike lanes in \u003ca href=\"http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2013/08/guerrilla_stripers_add_bike_la.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eCleveland\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://untappedcities.com/2013/09/25/guerrilla-bike-lanes-appear-nyc-cycling-advocacy-group-right-of-way-6th-avenue/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eNew York\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/22/unauthorized-bike-lanes-created-in-midtown/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eNew York again\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://www.seattlebikeblog.com/2013/04/04/guerrilla-road-safety-group-politely-installs-illegal-bike-lane-protectors-on-cherry-street/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eSeattle\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"http://www.bicycling.com/news/advocacy/paint-your-lane\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eeverywhere\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSarah Schindler, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2279544\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBanning Lawns\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Sarah Schindler.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Hipster land use law, with Sarah Schindler.","date_published":"2014-01-17T20:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/dbbda840-3bdf-4e46-aa84-0d97f914de1d.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":35168917,"duration_in_seconds":4245}]},{"id":"aa828839-57ed-47aa-8582-16bde549cdfe","title":"Episode 3: Cut It Off","url":"https://oralargument.org/3","content_text":"Should we just get rid of intellectual property law altogether? IP scholar Paul Heald, joining us from his home in Illinois, doesn’t think so. But what should we do about patent trolls? Is it even feasible to create virtual fences around ideas? Paul suggests that patent should work a bit more like copyright (which we all think is broken) and should be used to encourage exchange. The conversation ranges from trade secrets, to programmers, to the invention of the airplane. Turning to the runaway train that is copyright law, Paul tells us his spouse was a plaintiff in the disastrously decided Eldred v. Ashcroft. We talk about Paul’s studies of bad audiobooks, the public domain, the copyrighting of the bible, and a long-forgotten playwright named Shakespeare. Could the public domain, if copyright were sensibly limited, compete substantially with new works? Christian says “more and more” a lot. Paul previews his new study, which involves adult films.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nPaul Heald’s faculty profile and writing\nPaul Heald, A Transaction Cost Theory of Patent Law\nThis American Life, When Patents Attack, Part 1 and Part 2\nRonald J. Mann, Do Patents Facilitate Financing in the Software Industry\nPaul Heald, Optimal Remedies for Patent Infringement\nLawrence Solum, Legal Theory Lexicon: Property Rules and Liability Rules\nStackExchange\nMark A. Lemley, The Surprising Virtues of Treating Trade Secrets as IP Rights\nCharlotte Hess and Elinor Ostrom, _Understanding Knowledge as a Commons — From Theory to Practice. Cambridge: Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Introduction\nThe Wright brothers patent war\nEldred v. Ashcroft\nLawrence Lessig, How I Lost the Big One\nPaul Heald, How Copyright Makes Books and Music Disappear\nPaul Heald, The Public Domain\nRufus Pollock, Forever Minus a Day? Calculating Optimal Copyright Term\nMichael W. Carroll, One Size Does Not Fit All: A Framework for Tailoring Intellectual Property Rights\nSpecial Guest: Paul Heald.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eShould we just get rid of intellectual property law altogether? IP scholar Paul Heald, joining us from his home in Illinois, doesn’t think so. But what should we do about patent trolls? Is it even feasible to create virtual fences around ideas? Paul suggests that patent should work a bit more like copyright (which we all think is broken) and should be used to encourage exchange. The conversation ranges from trade secrets, to programmers, to the invention of the airplane. Turning to the runaway train that is copyright law, Paul tells us his spouse was a plaintiff in the disastrously decided \u003cem\u003eEldred v. Ashcroft\u003c/em\u003e. We talk about Paul’s studies of bad audiobooks, the public domain, the copyrighting of the bible, and a long-forgotten playwright named Shakespeare. Could the public domain, if copyright were sensibly limited, compete substantially with new works? Christian says “more and more” a lot. Paul previews his new study, which involves adult films.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Heald’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.illinois.edu/faculty/profile/paulheald\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=227781\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Heald, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=385841\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eA Transaction Cost Theory of Patent Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eThis American Life, \u003cem\u003eWhen Patents Attack\u003c/em\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ePart 1\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/496/when-patents-attack-part-two\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ePart 2\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRonald J. Mann, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1507543\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDo Patents Facilitate Financing in the Software Industry\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Heald, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1278062\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOptimal Remedies for Patent Infringement\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Solum, \u003ca href=\"http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheory/2008/11/legal-theory--7.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eLegal Theory Lexicon: Property Rules and Liability Rules\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://stackexchange.com\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eStackExchange\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMark A. Lemley, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1155167\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Surprising Virtues of Treating Trade Secrets as IP Rights\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCharlotte Hess and Elinor Ostrom, _Understanding Knowledge as a Commons — From Theory to Practice. Cambridge: Massachusetts Institute of Technology. \u003ca href=\"http://mitpress.mit.edu/sites/default/files/titles/content/9780262083577_sch_0001.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIntroduction\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_brothers_patent_war\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Wright brothers patent war\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12147684852241107557\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEldred v. Ashcroft\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eLawrence Lessig, \u003ca href=\"http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/March-April-2004/story_lessig_marapr04.msp\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow I Lost the Big One\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Heald, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2290181\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow Copyright Makes Books and Music Disappear\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePaul Heald, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2362983\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eThe Public Domain\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRufus Pollock, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1436186\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eForever Minus a Day? Calculating Optimal Copyright Term\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eMichael W. Carroll, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1585464\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOne Size Does Not Fit All: A Framework for Tailoring Intellectual Property Rights\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Paul Heald.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Patent and copyright, with Paul Heald.","date_published":"2014-01-10T19:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/aa828839-57ed-47aa-8582-16bde549cdfe.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":31447792,"duration_in_seconds":3780}]},{"id":"3f2eda54-c5c0-49eb-84ab-39d14c2882f6","title":"Episode 2: Bust a Deal, Face the Wheel","url":"https://oralargument.org/2","content_text":"Three episodes means we’ve got a show. This week we talk with coffee guzzler and international law expert Tim Meyer. We start with odd coffee habits. Then we ask what international law is. Is it even law? What is law? From there we cover commands and threats, the WTO, the modern framework of international law, and the difference between hard law and soft law. Tim proposes ditching a dinner with Joe. Did you know the London Group doesn’t meet in London? And why would anyone make an agreement they couldn’t hold you to?\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nTim Meyer’s faculty profile and writing\nThe World Trade Organization\nJohn Austin (and the command theory)\nYoungstown Sheet and Tube v. Sawyer\nCooter, Marks, and Mnoonkin, Bargaining in the Shadow of the Law, 11 J. L. Stud. 225 (1982)\nThe Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties\nWikipedia page on the UN Convention on Climate Change (includes a link to the text)\nThe Kyoto Protocol\nAndrew T. Guzman and Timothy Meyer, International Soft Law, 2 Journal of Legal Analysis (2011)\nMaster Blaster runs Bartertown (youtube) and Bust a Deal and Face the Wheel (sound clip)\nJean d’Aspremont, Formalism and the Sources of International Law, Oxford Univ. Press (2011)\nThe London Club\nGoldilocks Globalism (Guzman and Meyer, 2015)\nTim’s book suggestions: Robert Keohane, After Hegemony; Lloyd Gruber, Ruling the World; Pollack and Shaffer, When Cooperation Fails; Andrew Guzman, How International Law Works; Posner and Sykes, Economic Foundations of International Law\nSpecial Guest: Tim Meyer.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThree episodes means we’ve got a show. This week we talk with coffee guzzler and international law expert Tim Meyer. We start with odd coffee habits. Then we ask what international law is. Is it even law? What is law? From there we cover commands and threats, the WTO, the modern framework of international law, and the difference between hard law and soft law. Tim proposes ditching a dinner with Joe. Did you know the London Group doesn’t meet in London? And why would anyone make an agreement they couldn’t hold you to?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTim Meyer’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/timothy-l-meyer\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e and \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=440142\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe World Trade Organization\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Austin_(legal_philosopher)\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eJohn Austin\u003c/a\u003e (and the command theory)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14460863599772421355\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eYoungstown Sheet and Tube v. Sawyer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eCooter, Marks, and Mnoonkin, \u003ca href=\"http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1084\u0026context=facpubs\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBargaining in the Shadow of the Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, 11 J. L. Stud. 225 (1982)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.worldtradelaw.net/misc/viennaconvention.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eWikipedia page on the \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Framework_Convention_on_Climate_Change\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eUN Convention on Climate Change\u003c/a\u003e (includes a link to the text)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/convkp/kpeng.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Kyoto Protocol\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eAndrew T. Guzman and Timothy Meyer, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1353444\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eInternational Soft Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, 2 Journal of Legal Analysis (2011)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xetonjc3M8\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eMaster Blaster runs Bartertown\u003c/a\u003e (youtube) and \u003ca href=\"http://www.hark.com/clips/csnjfrxldc-bust-a-deal-and-face-the-wheel\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBust a Deal and Face the Wheel\u003c/a\u003e (sound clip)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJean d’Aspremont, \u003ca href=\"http://books.google.com/books?id=cnAnAgAAQBAJ\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eFormalism and the Sources of International Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, Oxford Univ. Press (2011)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Suppliers_Group\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe London Club\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eGoldilocks Globalism (Guzman and Meyer, 2015)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eTim’s book suggestions: Robert Keohane, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/After-Hegemony-Cooperation-Political-Princeton/dp/0691122482\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eAfter Hegemony\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Lloyd Gruber, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Ruling-World-Lloyd-Gruber/dp/0691010412/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eRuling the World\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Pollack and Shaffer, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/When-Cooperation-Fails-International-Genetically/dp/0199567050\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eWhen Cooperation Fails\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Andrew Guzman, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/How-International-Law-Works-Rational/dp/0195305566\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHow International Law Works\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e; Posner and Sykes, \u003ca href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Economic-Foundations-International-Eric-Posner/dp/0674066995\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEconomic Foundations of International Law\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Tim Meyer.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The law in international law, with Tim Meyer.","date_published":"2014-01-04T12:45:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/3f2eda54-c5c0-49eb-84ab-39d14c2882f6.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":34229806,"duration_in_seconds":4128}]},{"id":"a038150c-fb17-48b0-bbb0-0e26ce85b771","title":"Episode 1: Send Joe to Prison","url":"https://oralargument.org/1","content_text":"The real first episode of Oral Argument doesn’t hold back. Prof. Sonja West joins us to talk about the the press, the First Amendment, and other cool things. We discuss Supreme Court justices’ getting to talk about whatever they want, the Press Clause, the religion clauses (and even the quartering clause), Judith Miller and the Iraq War, peyote, bathrobed bloggers, the Twitter, who the press might be, Sonja’s press test, press access to prisons, why Joe should got to prison, religious and secular orthodoxy, bong hits for Jesus, student newspapers and local versions of the controversies over the Washington football team, and Christian’s “profoundly stupid” proposal.\n\nThis show’s links:\n\n\nSonja West’s faculty profile, writing, and Twitter stream\nSonja West, Press Exceptionalism, 127 Harv. L. Rev (forthcoming 2014)\nJustice John Paul Stevens, Originalism and History, text of address at University of Georgia, Nov. 6, 2013\nNew York Times v. Sullivan\nBranzburg v. Hayes (the Supreme Court on the reporters’ privilege)\nIn re: Grand Jury Subpoena, Judith Miller\nEmployment Division v. Smith (the peyote case)\nHouchins v. KQED (the Supreme Court on press access to prisons)\nNeshaminy student newspaper to resume ‘redskin’ ban, Philly.com\nHazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier\nMorse v. Frederick (the BONG HiTS 4 JESUS case)\nSpecial Guest: Sonja West.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThe real first episode of Oral Argument doesn’t hold back. Prof. Sonja West joins us to talk about the the press, the First Amendment, and other cool things. We discuss Supreme Court justices’ getting to talk about whatever they want, the Press Clause, the religion clauses (and even the quartering clause), Judith Miller and the Iraq War, peyote, bathrobed bloggers, the Twitter, who the press might be, Sonja’s press test, press access to prisons, why Joe should got to prison, religious and secular orthodoxy, bong hits for Jesus, student newspapers and local versions of the controversies over the Washington football team, and Christian’s “profoundly stupid” proposal.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis show’s links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSonja West’s \u003ca href=\"http://www.law.uga.edu/profile/sonja-r-west\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003efaculty profile\u003c/a\u003e, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=518870\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ewriting\u003c/a\u003e, and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/sonjarwest/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eTwitter stream\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eSonja West, \u003ca href=\"http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2228813\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003ePress Exceptionalism\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, 127 Harv. L. Rev (forthcoming 2014)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eJustice John Paul Stevens, \u003ca href=\"http://www.supremecourt.gov/publicinfo/speeches/JPS%20Speech(Georgia)_11-06-2013.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eOriginalism and History\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, text of address at University of Georgia, Nov. 6, 2013\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10183527771703896207\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNew York Times v. Sullivan\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11598860258825518787\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBranzburg v. Hayes\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the Supreme Court on the reporters’ privilege)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6530900504914793267\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eIn re: Grand Jury Subpoena, Judith Miller\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10098593029363815472\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eEmployment Division v. Smith\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the peyote case)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17191976500273269128\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHouchins v. KQED\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the Supreme Court on press access to prisons)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://articles.philly.com/2013-12-25/news/45541924_1_playwickian-student-editors-student-newspaper\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eNeshaminy student newspaper to resume ‘redskin’ ban\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, Philly.com\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2391207692241045857\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10117776825257150184\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eMorse v. Frederick\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e (the BONG HiTS 4 JESUS case)\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Sonja West.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"The Press and the First Amendment, with Sonja West.","date_published":"2013-12-28T10:15:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/a038150c-fb17-48b0-bbb0-0e26ce85b771.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":50075823,"duration_in_seconds":4887}]},{"id":"49453e5d-59c9-4616-9178-c2afc0949bca","title":"Who Is Your Hero?","url":"https://oralargument.org/zero","content_text":"This is not the first episode, but it is the launch of Oral Argument, a weeklyish show on which Joe and I talk to people about legal practice, theory, and education and also about random things that interest us. No guests in this test episode we recorded. But we do chat about nonsense, Duck Dynasty, and bad questions abour heroism. We recorded an additional segment on law school exams, but that will have to await the director's cut version of episode 0, due out never.\n\nRelevant links:\n\n\nPhil Magary, Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson Gives Drew Magary a Tour, GQ.\nHillbilly Handfishin'\nChristian Turner, State Action and Duck Dynasty, HydraText\nChristian Turner, State Action Problems, HydraText\nShelley v. Kraemer\nBuchanan v. Warley\nShutter Island\n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eThis is not the first episode, but it is the launch of Oral Argument, a weeklyish show on which Joe and I talk to people about legal practice, theory, and education and also about random things that interest us. No guests in this test episode we recorded. But we do chat about nonsense, Duck Dynasty, and bad questions abour heroism. We recorded an additional segment on law school exams, but that will have to await the director\u0026#39;s cut version of episode 0, due out never.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eRelevant links:\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003ePhil Magary, \u003ca href=\"http://www.gq.com/entertainment/television/201401/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eDuck Dynasty\u0026#39;s Phil Robertson Gives Drew Magary a Tour\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, GQ.\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly_Handfishin\u0026#x27;\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eHillbilly Handfishin\u0026#39;\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2013/12/20/muzzling-the-duck-dynasty\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState Action and Duck Dynasty\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, HydraText\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eChristian Turner, \u003ca href=\"http://www.hydratext.com/blog/2012/3/22/state-action-problems.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eState Action Problems\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e, HydraText\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12732018998507979172\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShelley v. Kraemer\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17109776118808449915\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eBuchanan v. Warley\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutter_Island_(film)\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003eShutter Island\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"Inaugural episode, nonsense, heroism, Duck Dynasty.","date_published":"2013-12-22T15:30:00.000-05:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/3ae5a79c-3d91-4814-b174-11dccc5bfd13/49453e5d-59c9-4616-9178-c2afc0949bca.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":28046953,"duration_in_seconds":3355}]}]}